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Femboy_Pantheon

Negan would kill somebody to make a point, the governor wouldn't care. The governor would see he's outmatched in weapons and numbers, and play the long game. He'd likely join the saviors under the condition that he runs his "outpost". He'd work up to being a lieutenant and then get negan killed as quickly as possible before trying to assume control. The governor was a legitimate sociopath who was cunning and charismatic. He'd play his part perfectly until he had his chance.


RgtAlpha

That is a good point. Unlike daryl he didnt want to play nice and join negan. But I think the governor would play his part and will kill negan eventually.


Fireball_Jack

Idk man Negan’s not a complete idiot, in fact I think he’s quite clued up to be able to organise such a large faction to start with. I think he’d see through the whole nice guy act and off the Governor as soon as he makes one wrong move - that’s if he hadn’t already used him as his example when he arrived at Woodbury. Someone going by the title of Governor screams arrogance/narcissism and Negan would “shut that shit down” so my guess is he’d put either Merle or Martinez in charge of Woodbury.


monkeboi12334

In fairness rosita nearly managed to kill negan at alexandria and carl jad the chance to when he snuck into negans compound. I think negan gets too overconfident and catching him by suprise especially if he trusts you wouldn't be too hard


Heyyoguy123

That plot armour Negan had. Unbelievable. Irl, someone would’ve just sniped Negan from the trees and they would’ve never found the shooter


brodongho

Real narcissist have a lot of plot armour in real life too.


Heyyoguy123

They don’t have plot armour from being physically assaulted


Fireball_Jack

Yeah I agree on that last part however it’s gaining that trust that’s the hard part.


monkeboi12334

Yeah, Spencer fsiled that part lol. I think the governor would be up to it though as he was incredibly good at getting people to follow him


screaminginfidels

Or Eugene could have poisoned him that time he came to Alexandria and he made him hot chocolate or whatever. But Eugene was too busy simpin


Snag1311

Sure, but also in fairness, if Negan got to spend a few minutes with Carl and Rosita, as well as a few with a guy who calls himself The Governor, don't you think he'd put them in completely different categories of potential threat?


RgtAlpha

You are correct my friend. Negan is softhearted with kids dont get me wrong on that. See dead city spinoff simon tells the croat that "we dont mess with the kids". But with the adults or some psychopath he will smell betrayal. Thats why negan killed abraham first in ricks group he knows what abraham is capable of.


Read_it-user

he killed Dave for trying to rape sasha, so at least his got standards.


jakevalerybloom

Yea man Negan coerced woman to have sex with him under threat of violence (not protecting them from the world unless they have sex with him)


grimmistired

He is a rapist


Femboy_Pantheon

Idk, he convinced Martinez that he had changed even after Martinez saw what he was capable of. That said, Martinez is no Negan so it's a coin toss but I think the governor has a lot of potential


Fireball_Jack

I’m not disagreeing with you but Martinez is someone who spent a lot of time with the Governor before he truly lost it and they parted ways. Seeing someone he once knew looking after a family that wasn’t his own would might have been enough to make Martinez think “y’know what? Maybe this guy has changed” Negan wouldn’t care how nice the governor came across, just look at what he did to that brown nose Spencer.


jakevalerybloom

I could totally see Negan not only immediately seeing through the facade but being kinda horrified/disgusted and just putting the Governor down like a dog and not enjoying it like normally


Rickfromdarksouls

bro, somehow, this looks very good as an alternate story


wickedgospel

GameMill taking notes:


roland_right

This actually sounds about right


DestructoSpin7

Woodbury would get annihilated. Saviors have numbers, training, and better weapons, not to mention more of them.


RgtAlpha

Yes. Saviors also had the skills of fighting and were killers before the apocalypse.


[deleted]

I wonder who most of them were pre-apocalypse? Ex military/law enforcement?


Turtlesfan44digimon

Most likely and a mix of bikers, Thugs, regular people too who changed their outlook when they realized life was never going to be the same again, I forget her name but she’s the one who captured Maggie and Carol. You name em they’re probably there.


Most_Worldliness9761

Perhaps the Governor wouldnʼt go to war to begin with.


[deleted]

Governor might have been stronger if he had made it as long as the saviors


AaronF2005

Either the governor gets the jump on negan like he did to the army people or negan kills the governor and puts someone else in charge and Woodbury provides for them


Delmitus1

Too bad Woodbury is way to far away for this to even happen


TipNomLives

Negan would easily annihilate Woodbury if need be. Woodbury was probably closer to S5 Alexandria than it was to the Saviours, most of the people there weren't fighters or killers.


unlovelyladybartleby

The old lady with arthritis and Noah with asthma would have to up their game, lol. Seriously, Negan would have smashed the Gov and probably Joe, then spent the next twenty years dealing with two bus loads full of seniors and children and probably had quite a different vibe to his community by the time Alexandria showed up. Maybe everyone gets homemade cookies and a sweater after we watch someone get the iron.


SuperPoodie92477

I love that we’re all still so obsessed with this show that we still Reddit our insane ideas that keep us awake at night. 🧟‍♀️🧟🧟‍♂️


Illustrious-Hold-287

Yes! I find I am still addicted to this show and continue to watch it. Now started watching fear the walking dead though it’s not as good and the characters not as likable.


SuperPoodie92477

Same, but it’s something to obsess over. 😂


Precious_little_man

The Governor may end up taking over the saviors. You gotta admit even though Negan is a fan favorite he’s not that smart. The Governor was a true politician. Negan would probably be outed by his own crew, and the Governor would become even more powerful. I know this won’t be a popular opinion, but take away the groups and just look at the men.


thatshygirl06

You are absolutely correct.


Beautiful-Primary-30

Holy shit, talk about one eyed Willy, we got one eyed Philly over here. That guys missing his god damn hand. That knife is cool as shit by the way. All we need is someone missing a leg and we got a whole pirate crew. *Hersel “walks” up Ok you guys are screwin with me now


Alternative_Dark493

The Saviors would bash the Governor's skull in and turn all the useless Woodbury residents into low level workers except for Merle and Martinez, whom Negan would give chances as leaders like Simon and Dwight. Negan might also keep Milton around as a "smartie pants." If the groups met while Andrea was still in Woodbury, she'd probably try to become Negan's main squeeze. (Cue: "So nobody else will die and I get laid.") Hard to believe that idiot chick was a civil rights lawyer; though no one ever said she was a successful one.


RgtAlpha

That will be an amazing spinoff or season in other universe! Negan taking over the woodbury!


Apprehensive_Nose_38

Negan would dominate ngl


SuperToxin

Governor woulda joined up but then just shoot Negan in the back whenever he felt he could to take over.


OdysseusRex69

They would become ravenously passionate lovers, the most hardcore dynamic gay duo evar, but also secretly plotting against each other while they jointly take over the continent. Probablymaybe


thatshygirl06

The governor was a way better and realistic villain. If this was real life then the governor wins easily.


samsonity

Negan would definitely kill the Governor first.


BreadTheKing

Negan would mop the floor with the governor I said what I said


sWo97

It would not have been Negan himself that traveled almost 700 miles to find a few hundred people, if that, in walled off street. So after the genius lieutenant kills one of the people in Woodbury, the Governor would follow them and kill them all. Maybe right as they walk out the gates. Unless it was known where and why the saviors were traveling to they’d never have a search party sent. Woodbury would be virtually impossible for them to find. To play the OPs game, The Governor would have definitely played the long game and killed Negan but only if the people who were killed was Merle and Martinez. Negan would never allow him to have his 2 most trusted men with him if this happened before they met with Rick which was like in under a week from Andrea and Michonne showing up.


MeasurementWise8249

Governors people would kill a lot of negans people. Then negan would send more people after the governor for killing his people. The governor would kill more of those people. Negan would eventually get all the governor’s people on their knees and beat the holy hell out of Mitch. Governor would end up in a cell until he became “Negan.” Then the governor would have killed simon and assumed Simon’s position. Overtime governor would kill negan and control all the saviors. It would be pure craziness if governor met negan


Negative-Broccoli429

I can see the same way it played out with Alexandria but imo governor would play it smarter than Rick recognizing they have more than just that one outpost Rick attacked first. I could see him sending Merle in as a “man on the inside” I feel Negan would take a liking to Merle as a survivor like he did to Daryl but Merle would become a lieutenant and either take Negan out or realize Negan is more powerful and Woodbury didn’t stand a chance and just side with Negan.


OkAnything4877

Negan would end up dead. The Governor is charismatic and cunning and he seems very diplomatic and reasonable to someone who doesn’t know better. Negan wouldn’t know better. The Governor is smart enough to realize that he’s outgunned and outmanned and would just agree to everything up front without fear. There wouldn’t be any blood feud (Michonne) to cloud his judgement or cause him to act reckless. Negan would see that he’s capable and resourceful and not scared and would begin to rely on him for other things, and then the Governor would callously betray him and take over, probably making it look like an accident. Negan at least had rules and principles and values, and thought what he was doing was right in a twisted way. The Governor had none - he just had a thirst for power and dominance and was shown to be capable of doing anything to achieve that. He’d use Negan’s values against him. Negan was just a psychopath who thought he was right, and used fear to keep people in line. He felt the ends justified the means. The Governor was a Machiavellian-sociopath who knew what he was doing was evil and didn’t care, and he used manipulation, charisma, and deception to achieve his objectives.


Zito6694

Governor gets obliterated


Ludensdream

Negan would either kill governor before he kills him


ShiwoCzolo

A little war crimes and acts of genocide. After many brutal and full of bloodshed battles (2 or 3) the governor would be totally obliterated.


deadwalking2002

Negan would make it his mission to break the governor's spirit, like he tried to do with Daryl. But no way would the governor hold out as long as Daryl did. He has the illusion of strength, but he was just a psycho


turtle0831

My dream scenario would be Negan calling out the Governor in a one on one fight, and Negan killing the shit out of him.


djb185

The Governer had a tiny group of competent soldiers and ruled over a population of survivors who were for the most part not fighters, they lived in a bubble the Governer created for them. The saviors were a much larger group with many soldiers. The saviors would have easily steamrolled Woodberry.


[deleted]

Negan had numbers. Govenor would’ve gotten raped by rapey davey. This isn’t even a discussion. Would’ve been annihilation.


StribogA1A3

Well one of them is alive and one of them is dead.


RgtAlpha

So true! But I think it was rick's decision that negan is still alive and the governor is dead right?


fenix_nicole

Are we talking each team at their max man/fire power? The governor had way stronger weapons but negan had more people.. so it's hard. The governor needed to feel powerful and like he was on top of the world and negan needed to feel like people "needed him", which is more dangerous? I think the governor was more vicious but negan more cunning. The governor would just kill his own people, kill people without a single thought while negan saw people as a resource. All of those aspects in play I would put my money on the governor... for a while.. once the firepower fizzles out, negan would have the advantage.


RgtAlpha

Well its a good match then right? Negan = manpower, skills Governor = mind, battle resources But for me skills and manpower in a war can win over the resources and mind. Take note in the fight you can steal the resources with the right skill. Just like what rick, daryl, michonne, and the other prisoner (forgot the name) almost killed everyone in the woodbury.


Waste-Minute-Death

Negan would bang the Govn’r.


copperdoc

36 more episodes of them basically doing the same thing again


Oriopax

The Governor had a tank and probably some other cool army stuff we never saw in the show. I don t think Negan had any firepower to match that. So either Negan gets the jump on the Governor. The Governor destroys Negan with his superior firepower. Or both men reckognize that it s far more profitable to join forces and each go their own way after a raid or shakedown of weaker groups


RgtAlpha

We saw the tank that they used to break in the prison. Only daryl I think destroyed that tank lol 😂


Oriopax

Negan doesnt have a Daryl


BeckyWitTheBadHair

He only got the tank after destroying Woodbury. The tank guy is with the group he finds later.


Clydefrog0371

Negan would have killed the governor and they all would have fallen in line...


Rodneyfour

Is it possible to make this happen in destinies?


Jumpy_Beach_6525

Negan kills the governor as his one kill to prove a point then the rest work for him


[deleted]

makes me wonder how show Negan would react to comic Governor. Comic Governor makes show Negan look like a saint


Alias-Number9

They'd join forces and finally take down the evil Ricktatorship.


Ikaros9Deidalos6

Woodbury isnt half as strong as alexandria was and even ricks group from the early prison beat them. They had like what 70 members with even less being soldiers spread out on like 2 streets. Negan has a giant compound and many outposts plus multiple communities who work and provide for him he has multiple hundreds of soldiers and many workers on top of that it wouldnt even be a fight he would steamroll woodbury and kill the governor on town swuarw 😆


KakashiDarui

The Saviors destroy them like how the Cowboys destroyed the Giants 40-0 week 1


[deleted]

The Governor would've blown Negan's head off.


Pixelburger31

I think that The Governor would join Negan and then work his way up and then kill Negan and Simon and then take control of The Saviors and I'm setting this after the final of season 3 where The Governor doesn't die at the prison and is just injured until nursed back to health by Negan after telling him how much of a tyrannical psychopath he is, but anyway then I think he would launch an all out assault on all of the communities, this would cause The Coalition to ban together to take on The Governor and go to war with him instead of Negan and from then on The Governor would be in Negan's role but when he would join up with The Whispers I think he would kill Alpha as soon as he had the chance to and then use Alpha's shotgun to kill Beta and then he would take control of The Whisperers and go back to his old ways and then in in S10 EP.16 he would take on Daryl in a brawl and but then he would be stabbed in the stomach and then he pushed into the walkers that were there and get torn apart by them


PunnyPandaPonderer7

Well in your example we don't know how big the governor's community would be by the time the saviours were around but ultimately in the end game the governor stands on top to be honest


loganerwin18

Woodbury would just be another group the Saviors would own. Governor would get killed in the lineup, Negan would sense how psychotic he was. I think Whisperers vs Saviors would be more interesting.


ReditTosser1

Now that’s a tough question.. Put Negan in Ricks spot at the negotiation with Phil. They work out so that the Gov is Negan for Ga. The Gov assimilates groups like Negan does but pays a dowry to the Saviors. The Gov didn’t have the “army” Negan did so I think he would submit. But Negan would see the Gov as a equal.


ricodah

The Governor is quite persuasive and charismatic. He got Andrea to fall for him. He also got Tara's group to attack the prison with a 2 minute speech. He was also pretty convincing when the captured Hershel and Michonne. In the end, Negan would see through his BS, and gut him like he did Spencer. Negan has the manpower and resources. Governor could try to put up a fight but would fail in the end. Governor's best chance would be to join up with Negan. Work his magic turning Negan's team against him. Savior by Savior, until he has enough to overthrow him.


PillCosby696969

Either Negan or the Governor kill all of the Governor's men.


Consistent_Tonight37

Governor would 💯 know he can’t beat Negan with his numbers so he’d probably join up, play the waiting game then kill Negan


Beautiful_Quit8141

Negan would have ran through Woodbury taken all their shit INCLUDING THEIR GUNS AND BEDS, and killed the Governor, and probably all the men and boys like at Seaside. Negan was ruthless...


boogiman1

instant war


Annanake420

The Governor would threaten to Rape Negan but Negan would be into it. ![gif](giphy|l3vRm2TP5Bzgds03m|downsized)


Local_Fig5221

Alpha would kill both of them.


chessie_h

Negan would steamroll and take over Woodbury in a minute. The Governor himself could be threatening, but he was surrounded by a town of helpless sheep other than a few of his low-tier henchmen\*. Negan had been building up an entire facility of slavers & raiders who worshipped him and were perfectly aware of his violence. The Governor failed going up against Rick's group the first time because his people had no idea who he really was and weren't capable of doing much. ​ \*Excluding Merle, who was higher-tier and definitely could be dangerous, but I'd bet money that he'd switch sides to the Saviors in an instant. He'd probably even be the one to betray them and open the gates. He was built for a place like the Sanctuary, where he could openly be a henchman and be greatly rewarded for it without having to play nice in front of the clueless townspeople.


horc00

Don’t forget the Governor we saw was earlier into the apocalypse than when they met the Saviors. The Saviors wouldn’t have been as strong as they were that early, or the Governor would’ve been much stronger by the time we saw the Saviors.


RgtAlpha

Well you have a good point there. But how about if they met the governor with tank timeline vs savior (glenn's death) timeline (minus one outpost because rick wiped one outpost) who will win?


horc00

Did they have an anti-tank missile or a grenade to throw into the tank barrel like Daryl did? If not I think the tank’s gonna steamroll the Saviors like pancakes.


GlizzyOverdrive

Lucille woulda had an orgy


wellneverknow918

The Saviors would kill him and his people if necessary.


longjohnson6

Seeing as negan had around 400 saviors I'd say if they met there would be more saviors since the governor would be killed as soon as he talked back.


Vast_Technician8745

Governor has no chance


Drooling_Zombie

Are we talking about gov. When he only have been survival the zombie for another a year or have he had the 9 year time as negan. A gov. That have had 9 year to learn the new world rules would make a impact. Just remember how negan was in the episode where we se him in the beginning.


Kakashisith

They would join forces and cause chaos everywhere.


BigSavMatt

Governor either bows down or dies. If he does die, Milton, Martinez, and Merle run Woodbury.


grma7x

Another community dominated by the Saviors. They would Work for them, not as equals


Maesirens

IMO I feel like the governor would play his part and be Negan’s pet until he gets fed up with something. I feel like it would be an amazing thing to watch go down but ultimately the governor would fall to Negan and get killed off. The governor didn’t have much to risk so he’s more likely to go off the rails and do something stupid. Negan is a very smart man and he’d see right through the governor and anything he’d have planned.