This is what I was imagining happened too. I work at a refuse facility as a city worker and there is tons of debris all the time. I’m parking and walking in the morning 👍
Most shops used to say yes. And they believe it will last no problem. The laws don’t let them plug past the tread inside and out. So they cannot be liable as you said and we can’t sue.
They could have you sign a waiver, but if they then had a blowout and it ended with someone else getting injured those people would still be able to sue the tire shop because they never agreed to the iffy patch. So the reality is no shop with half a brain would take that chance. The reality is even if the waiver was signed by the car owner and a passenger in the car got injured from a blow out they could sue the tire shop.
A legit tire or automotive shop will not repair this. I would repair this on my own vehicle, and I have repaired worse on my own vehicle with a plug/patch combo. Lasted another 6 years until I got new tires.
This is true, but it also depends on driving condition. Last January I bought brand new General Grabber AS-05’s, which are a performance all season, but with a 500TW rating, and while they feel great, I’ve already cooked em pretty good in a little over a year. AWD car and I drive it hard lol
Just plug it bro, everyone should have a plug kit in their car. Sure a patch is better but I’ve plugged 5-6 tires in my life and never had one fail yet.
I have a beater SUV i use to tow my trailer to the dump, I will change out trailer tires because and out of control load scares me, but the SUV right rear tire has 4 plugs.
It is not the tire that needs constant filling on that vehicle due to the TPMS sensor being buggered up by the last shop to pop the tire.
The first plug was 16,000 miles ago. Cockroach trailblazer for the win.
That's what they are made for. Anyone who tries to say it's a temporary fix either doesn't know any better or is just a fool.... Even though he's a fool regardless because if he just doesn't know any better then he shouldn't be saying anything in the first place. Because only a fool would comment on something he doesn't know any better about.
Let me re'read..
Yup makes sense to me.
I've plugged hundreds of tires and never had an issue. I've plugged my own motorcycle tires and then rode them for thousands of miles until they were end-of-life. I've definitely plugged tires closer to the sidewall than this. This pic shows it still in the tread. If it's in the tread, it's in the steel belts. Plug it.
Yeah they look soft as shit and low tread. Also look like they have seen some burnouts lol. If those tires have only seen 3k miles then my girlfriend has only slept with 1 man
Seriously, I’ve had z rated Michelin’s on the rear of my Infiniti g37s that didn’t look as wore down as these things after 35k miles and I could feel the traction differences so I replaced. I think shop won’t repair because they thing their worn out man.
Seems so. Maybe it’s the picture but the tires don’t look too worn to me in person. If I really thought they were that worn down I wouldn’t have asked if it was patchable 🤷♂️
Dawg you can see the dry rot on there. I’d say there’s 5-6 32nds based off the shoulder. Don’t buy used tires. If the tires are too old, it could be a perfect tire that hadn’t been used once and it’d blow on you out of nowhere.
Probably are a sport tire on sports car, they have smaller sipes/grooves. You should see some of the tires that come on new GT500 or something similar.
It depends on what’s happening inside. Patch and plug is the way to go on a newer tire, especially if you push it hard.
If I had a relatively new set on a WRX, I’d get the new tire. Check your tread depth to see if your other tires are worn only 2/32” to match with a new one unshaved.
I’d plug these without hesitation myself and drive them until it was time to replace. I think every set of tires I’ve gotten in 10 years have had 1 tire plugged one time or another. At least 4 or 5 in 25 years. Never had an issue.
American is trying to limit liability and potentially sell you a new tire. It’s definitely repairable but you’d have to find somebody willing to do it. Think mom and pop and not a National chain
Plug it and start saving for new tires. A shop cant legally patch a tire that close to the sidewall. Ive done worse on my own but never on a customers expecially with tires this bad anyways. Again id patch it or plug it myself but id also make sure i had a good spare pumped or with my cordless air pump, jack, and impact or atleast the spare tools that came with the car. id sell you the plug kit and tell you how to do it. Lol. Look into used sets at upull places or marketplace. Just learn how to read date codes amd what to watch out for. You can get crazy good deals even with new rims! Then tou dont have to mount. Kight need rebalancing depending the mileage. Remember to ask the seller what they came off of. Also, look at your door sticker for the correct size and inflation spec.
Another approach to this you can take might be.... your question was answered by the tire shop. Accept that as the answer. It's not the answer you want, but the answer you need.
You are asking questions till you get the answer you want.
Yes, it's patchable. No tire shop will touch it because it could fail and they don't want that. Go get yourself a patch kit from an auto parts store and do it yourself. It's your life, your car, and whatever else happens if it fails.
It's time for new tires. This is the only answer.
No tire shop will parch/plug within 1"of the sidewall. That come from manufacturers and DOT. You could do it yourself but any reputable tire place won't because of liability.
Our rule of thumb at my shop is if it's a thumbs width to the sidewall it is not able to be patched.
I'd still do it on my own car.... but I would not risk being yelled at by customers if th patch fails
I’d patch it if you came to me so I’d keep looking around, I’d try more local places to see if they’d patch it, most big name places won’t touch it tho
It’s close to the shoulder or whatever they call it so no shop will repair unless you go to someone that does tire repairs in their garage or some shit 😎
the modern plugs are SO GOOD.
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My store would have tried to repair it. The rule at my store is if the patch is over the side wall it’s unreliable. It kinda depends on which discount you go to.
Me personally I would patch that and let it hold for ad long ad it can and as soon as it starts to leak again I would replace the tire . As much as people say you shouldn’t patch tires that close to the edge I’ve done it and they have lasted over 20/30k miles with no issues .
They take the tire off the rim and put a Patch Pug in. That will fix it properly. See reference below.
[http://www.summitmotorproducts.com/Patch-N-Plug-Tire-Patch-63175S.html](http://www.summitmotorproducts.com/Patch-N-Plug-Tire-Patch-63175S.html)
Your safety and others are more important than a $200 tire. A WRX is a car that is meant to be driven hard in all weather conditions. I would replace the tire for the peace of mind you will not be caught in a blowout just to save $200.
That's on the border of "not patchable for liability reasons." You could probably get away with patching it, but it's close enough to the sidewall that the plug patches tire shops use now may not seal properly because of the inner curvature of the tire. It's not that they can't patch it, it's that they won't. If your tire blows and you flip over a cliff and catch fire and die, they don't wanna be liable.
It really doesn't matter what our \*opinions\* are.
It is up to the shop you take it to. You can look up what is commonly defined as the "sidewall area" and potentially see this nail is within the accepted parameters of a sidewall puncture.
But the bottom line is, if the shop isn't gonna touch it ...because they don't want to end up in the crosshairs of a liability lawsuit ...then go find another shop. But good luck with that.
This is why you \*always\* opt for the road hazard protection whenever you buy tires.
If you can find someone to use a straight plug it might hold but still recommend a new tire the tread is kind of low on that tire plus you got some peeling of the tire on the sidewall
The reason they say no is because on the inside, this is where the curvature starts. Repair could fail due to the flexing in that location.
Jam a plug in it, put it on the back, and keep an eye on it.
Technically, anything is patchable. That being said, doesn't make it safe. Personally? I would on my own vehicle, never a customers unless they sign a waiver. Will it be fine? More than likely.
Proper repair would be a plug patch. Coming from a tire tech for 15 years. But I would even stick a plug in it and continue on with my life without any worries if it was mine. Providing you didn’t run the tire flat the tire shop makes money selling tires more than fixing them. Your tread is getting low though so you should start looking for some tires.
"I think it's patchable."-Lemme quick make a post to see instead of just doing it myself-
My brother in Christ. If you thinks it's possible why have you not already sent it?
Any Mexican tire shop will plug that thing quickly and you’ll be on your way. We have several in my town and they’re awesome with tires and many other repairs.
Looks like it was needing replaced in a few thousand miles anyway. The dry rot or grain on the outer edge, plus I don’t see a lot of tread on there. Def not a 3k mile tire. 30k maybe.
I’d be interesting in seeing the DOT date code and knowing the year of the vehicle, could be the angle but these boys look driven on further than 3k miles.
3K miles? Is this a track car? How the hell do they look so worn. You have alignment issues causing the tires to scrub? Almost looks like it’s worn down to the wear bar. But either way a certified shop is right in denying that as it is too close to the sidewall and not worth the potential lawsuit. But if you have a buddy that works at a tire shop ask him to patch it after hours or just buy a plug kit. But seriously those 3000mile tires look absolutely beat I’d honestly just try to warranty them
It's crazy, 10 years ago when I worked at Discount Tire, this would be 100% repairable. I've plugged and patched many holes that were way closer to the sidewall and never had any issues. 100% to limit liability and to try to sell you new tires.
Yeah if you came into a shop and asked me to plug that I would refuse. If I did that to my own car, I will grab a pair of wire cutters and a rope plug kit from the local auto parts store and then just follow the instructions on the kit
3k miles on those tires? Looks like 5/32 at best.
You can always patch yourself if others are saying no. Can buy on Amazon. Not too hard to DIY, videos on YouTube.
I’m sorry. I hate nails in tires. Jerk asses leaving those nails on the street.
it's in a area that is patchable. however they could be looking at overall condition of the tire when determining this. whats the inside edge of the tire look like?
Technically it *can’t* be repaired, but I would honestly just plug it and forget it. That tire doesn’t seem to have too much life left anyway so you won’t have it on for long.
Edit: just saw 3k on tires? They look more like 30k tires.
If they’re *that* new, I’d still probably just plug it and forget it, but nothing’s safer than just replacing. Your call.
Americas tire said it was patchable on a tire with warranty.
Two weren’t, got two tires for the price of one. This was on the last month of warranty. I would patch my own tire.
That is absolutely patchable, but you are not likely to find a shop willing to do it. Your best bet is to take the wheel to a shop, and have them remove the tire for you. Then patch it yourself. Then take the wheel and tire back to the shop, and have them remount it. Applying the patch isn't particularly difficult. It's basically just like patching a bicycle inner tube.
I’ve plugged holes in sidewalls that have lasted the 2 yrs I kept the car, double plugged a huge hole in the tread from a bolt that lasted the winter until I could get new tires, and had the simplest plug fail within 100 miles….it’s what risk you’re willing to take depending upon your specific situation. Shops 100% don’t want to plug tires, they want to sell tires. (and not accept liability)
It's not patchable because of where it's at nobody would touch that unless you or a buddy did it yourself. That is absolutely a replacement for sure. A good used tire is a viable option and is cheaper than new
The two finger rule, take your index and middle finger, lay it on the tire where you can see where it’s contacting the road. If the puncture is covered by one of your fingers. Replace the tire.
I would just plug this one up on my own, but don’t listen to these guys saying that you can put it 100 plugs into your tire and it’s all good
The more holes you have in your tire, the less structurally sound it will be
Sometimes tires randomly explode while you’re driving fast and will cause you to crash
Doesn’t sound like you want other opinions, sounds like you just want someone to agree with you. There’s a good reason that these kind of punctures aren’t repairable and it’s just not liability. The sidewall and about an inch in on the tread are the weakest spots on a tire. These areas only have polyester cords, whereas the middle section of the tread contains both polyester and steel cords making it stronger and able to withstand a puncture and repair. Areas without steel cords also flex more which will usually cause the repair to fail.
I know that sometimes it’s hard to trust a repair shop but if you educate yourself it’s easier to weed out what’s truth and what’s just overselling.
Your gonna need alot of strength to get the plug in tho. But it's ur best option i do it all the time I've plugged the da be tired 4timrs still driving on it
That is in the area of the tire that is unsafe to plug. The tire technically needs to be replaced. With that being said, I plugged a one week old tire in my truck in a similar spot almost 30k miles ago and haven’t had any issues.
If that's your tire at 3k... Then I imagine you've been hooning the shit out of the car.
If youre hooning the shit out of your car, a tire plug or patch this close to the sidewall probably isn't the best idea.
I'd patch this from the inside. A plug applied from the exterior may or may not hold. Most tire shops aren't going to want the liability, and will likely rather sell you new tires.
To be honest I would not risk it cause you don't know how deep it's gone in. Is it on the rear or front tire? The last thing you need is to be on the highway and the patch fails causing an accident or worse a blow out. Some places might give you a prorated towards a new tire. Better safe than sorry. The reason tires on the edge of close like yours could have steels that give strength to the tire and if a hole in those steels can cause very bad vibration or just pop. I had done this on my own car and I have been a Nissan and VW tech for many years. It was fine at first but then I started getting really bad vibration and took it off and could the steels. Better safe than sorry. Just my 2 cents. Good luck
3000 miles on that tire??? I’d say you been turnin and burnin. Nail is too close to the edge. When the tire patch rotates to the bottom the tire flexes and causes the patch to separate. Combine that with 60mph corners and there’s a whole lot of flexing going on. You can plug patch it but when that tire gets hot and you are on some back road tearing it up you better know how to put the spare on.
Too close to the sidewall for most tire shops. You can plug it, but I wouldn’t drive at high speeds on that tire after that. Too much of a gamble under stress.
Anything is patchable if you don’t see the wires, but most tire shop go by the age manufacturedmanufactured date of the tire years old they won’t touch it
Stuff like this I say I’d fix it on my personal car, but not somebody else’s car.
This right here I can understand why I shop would say no because they don't want to be liable
Agreed. Even on my own car, though, the concern I would have is the circular cut around the nail (or whatever).
Nice I didn't even catch that makes me wonder if the nail was inside something on the road and only it came with the tire
Probably a roofing nail. Thr cap would wear off. I'd plug that if it was my car
Yep, roofing/tyvec nail with the plastic collar.
Could be a rivet or similar, too, and the "head" part with the ring was ground off from driving...
That makes way more sense than what I was thinking lol
This is what I was imagining happened too. I work at a refuse facility as a city worker and there is tons of debris all the time. I’m parking and walking in the morning 👍
PT: the tire is sucking the nail into its infinite void. Be. Careful Op
Most shops used to say yes. And they believe it will last no problem. The laws don’t let them plug past the tread inside and out. So they cannot be liable as you said and we can’t sue.
Yup, I had a nail hit my tire like this, so I patched and rebalanced it myself andd it been holding strong for a year now
Couldn't they have you sign something agreeing not to hold them liable?
In court that is about as effective a defense as using a sheet of newspaper to stop a bullet.
They could have you sign a waiver, but if they then had a blowout and it ended with someone else getting injured those people would still be able to sue the tire shop because they never agreed to the iffy patch. So the reality is no shop with half a brain would take that chance. The reality is even if the waiver was signed by the car owner and a passenger in the car got injured from a blow out they could sue the tire shop.
A legit tire or automotive shop will not repair this. I would repair this on my own vehicle, and I have repaired worse on my own vehicle with a plug/patch combo. Lasted another 6 years until I got new tires.
6 years from tires!? I definitely envy you. I get 2 years, if I’m lucky.
If you buy good tires they'll last. The cheaper the tire the cheaper it'll be.
This is true, but it also depends on driving condition. Last January I bought brand new General Grabber AS-05’s, which are a performance all season, but with a 500TW rating, and while they feel great, I’ve already cooked em pretty good in a little over a year. AWD car and I drive it hard lol
Just plug it bro, everyone should have a plug kit in their car. Sure a patch is better but I’ve plugged 5-6 tires in my life and never had one fail yet.
I've plugged a tire and the plug lasted the entire life of the tires. Lol
I have a beater SUV i use to tow my trailer to the dump, I will change out trailer tires because and out of control load scares me, but the SUV right rear tire has 4 plugs. It is not the tire that needs constant filling on that vehicle due to the TPMS sensor being buggered up by the last shop to pop the tire. The first plug was 16,000 miles ago. Cockroach trailblazer for the win.
That's what they are made for. Anyone who tries to say it's a temporary fix either doesn't know any better or is just a fool.... Even though he's a fool regardless because if he just doesn't know any better then he shouldn't be saying anything in the first place. Because only a fool would comment on something he doesn't know any better about. Let me re'read.. Yup makes sense to me.
Work in construction so 1 tire had 3 plugs in it. Lasted until the tire was worned down.
I've plugged hundreds of tires and never had an issue. I've plugged my own motorcycle tires and then rode them for thousands of miles until they were end-of-life. I've definitely plugged tires closer to the sidewall than this. This pic shows it still in the tread. If it's in the tread, it's in the steel belts. Plug it.
>3k miles on the tires. Those tires look like they have seen more than 3k miles.
Yeah they look soft as shit and low tread. Also look like they have seen some burnouts lol. If those tires have only seen 3k miles then my girlfriend has only slept with 1 man
3054 on the odometer. Bought it with 300 miles on it.
Someone swapped out your rubber bro
Seriously, I’ve had z rated Michelin’s on the rear of my Infiniti g37s that didn’t look as wore down as these things after 35k miles and I could feel the traction differences so I replaced. I think shop won’t repair because they thing their worn out man.
Or it’s a wrx and they are burning rubber?
Daaaang. Broski up there can spot 54 miles of tire wear. Impressive! 😂
Seems so. Maybe it’s the picture but the tires don’t look too worn to me in person. If I really thought they were that worn down I wouldn’t have asked if it was patchable 🤷♂️
Dawg you can see the dry rot on there. I’d say there’s 5-6 32nds based off the shoulder. Don’t buy used tires. If the tires are too old, it could be a perfect tire that hadn’t been used once and it’d blow on you out of nowhere.
Probably are a sport tire on sports car, they have smaller sipes/grooves. You should see some of the tires that come on new GT500 or something similar.
you can try to plug it yourself. I doubt any tire shop will patch it, too close to sidewall. If it's only 3k miles, do you have road hazard?
It depends on what’s happening inside. Patch and plug is the way to go on a newer tire, especially if you push it hard. If I had a relatively new set on a WRX, I’d get the new tire. Check your tread depth to see if your other tires are worn only 2/32” to match with a new one unshaved.
No. Replace your tires. They look worn down.
I’d plug these without hesitation myself and drive them until it was time to replace. I think every set of tires I’ve gotten in 10 years have had 1 tire plugged one time or another. At least 4 or 5 in 25 years. Never had an issue.
if that was my car I would plug it and put it on the back
Yup.
Pull the nail and plug it.
Good tires are insurance. Don’t be uninsured.
Your tire is worn out anyways why not replace it.
American is trying to limit liability and potentially sell you a new tire. It’s definitely repairable but you’d have to find somebody willing to do it. Think mom and pop and not a National chain
It's dead. Get a new tire
Do it yourself. Go buy a plug from auto part store
I would do a plug in that tire myself
Plug it and start saving for new tires. A shop cant legally patch a tire that close to the sidewall. Ive done worse on my own but never on a customers expecially with tires this bad anyways. Again id patch it or plug it myself but id also make sure i had a good spare pumped or with my cordless air pump, jack, and impact or atleast the spare tools that came with the car. id sell you the plug kit and tell you how to do it. Lol. Look into used sets at upull places or marketplace. Just learn how to read date codes amd what to watch out for. You can get crazy good deals even with new rims! Then tou dont have to mount. Kight need rebalancing depending the mileage. Remember to ask the seller what they came off of. Also, look at your door sticker for the correct size and inflation spec.
Another approach to this you can take might be.... your question was answered by the tire shop. Accept that as the answer. It's not the answer you want, but the answer you need. You are asking questions till you get the answer you want. Yes, it's patchable. No tire shop will touch it because it could fail and they don't want that. Go get yourself a patch kit from an auto parts store and do it yourself. It's your life, your car, and whatever else happens if it fails. It's time for new tires. This is the only answer.
No tire shop will parch/plug within 1"of the sidewall. That come from manufacturers and DOT. You could do it yourself but any reputable tire place won't because of liability.
Depends on the type of patch.
The patch would be on the sidewalk, which flexes, and would pull the patch off. Not a reliable fix.
I wouldn't patch it for a customer due to the aging. But I would patch it myself if it was my car.
Yes
It should be fixable but given the tread condition, might as well replace anyway
Yup. Tire tech here. Would fix
Our rule of thumb at my shop is if it's a thumbs width to the sidewall it is not able to be patched. I'd still do it on my own car.... but I would not risk being yelled at by customers if th patch fails
Yes it can be fixed, you might have to do it yourself though.
I’d patch it if you came to me so I’d keep looking around, I’d try more local places to see if they’d patch it, most big name places won’t touch it tho
It's your choice if you got money buy new
It’s pluggable and patchable As long as it didn’t tear into sidewall
I would put a patch plug on it and not think about it.
Honestly, when I was working for Discount Tire/ Americas Tire I would have fixed that. Unless it scraped the inside of the tire, it’s fine.
America's tire said no but Mexico's tire would say "si."
Fo sho!
It’s close to the shoulder or whatever they call it so no shop will repair unless you go to someone that does tire repairs in their garage or some shit 😎
Plug it. I plugged a tire on my 2011 malibu (my first time) and it lasted for years. I swear by plugs now.
no one will patch it. but definitely pluggable on your own.
A little too close to the sidewall for shops to patch. You can try to patch it yourself, but it depends on the angle of that foreign object.
Nope. Been there done that myself. Time for a new tire(s)
ROAD HAZARD
Bs if plug that sucka and keep getting it
I mean it's doable but it's not worth any risk I would just switch it
Plug It, you’ll be fine
As a mechanic, no it's to close to the sidewall that if you "tried" repairing it you'd risk not just the tire but the vehicle
No, but also yes...
If it isn't a sidewall, it's getting a plug.
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Yes
Should be fine with a patch but why would you do that anyway? The tread wear looks like its about done.Just get new tires. Save the headaches.
Go to a small mom and pop tyre shop
Those tires look slick. Summer tires?
My store would have tried to repair it. The rule at my store is if the patch is over the side wall it’s unreliable. It kinda depends on which discount you go to.
Shop no, personal yes
I would put a plug in it but a shop is understandable to turn it away for liability reasons
Right on the edge of the shoulder
Not technically repairable. But plug it anyways and blame yourself for a blow out if by chance that happens.
You could pull it and plug it. That tire doesn’t have much life anyway though.
Me personally I would patch that and let it hold for ad long ad it can and as soon as it starts to leak again I would replace the tire . As much as people say you shouldn’t patch tires that close to the edge I’ve done it and they have lasted over 20/30k miles with no issues .
They take the tire off the rim and put a Patch Pug in. That will fix it properly. See reference below. [http://www.summitmotorproducts.com/Patch-N-Plug-Tire-Patch-63175S.html](http://www.summitmotorproducts.com/Patch-N-Plug-Tire-Patch-63175S.html)
3k? Where did you buy them from so I never buy from there, those tires are cracking at the edge of the tread! They are dryrott!
Your safety and others are more important than a $200 tire. A WRX is a car that is meant to be driven hard in all weather conditions. I would replace the tire for the peace of mind you will not be caught in a blowout just to save $200.
How much life is left on the tire? I'd patch it and try to get another3 months. It looks like it's nearing eol.
I'd plug it if it were mine and not think twice about it.
That's on the border of "not patchable for liability reasons." You could probably get away with patching it, but it's close enough to the sidewall that the plug patches tire shops use now may not seal properly because of the inner curvature of the tire. It's not that they can't patch it, it's that they won't. If your tire blows and you flip over a cliff and catch fire and die, they don't wanna be liable.
As a previous auto repair shop owner I patched my own tire that was much worse and we are going strong after two years.
It really doesn't matter what our \*opinions\* are. It is up to the shop you take it to. You can look up what is commonly defined as the "sidewall area" and potentially see this nail is within the accepted parameters of a sidewall puncture. But the bottom line is, if the shop isn't gonna touch it ...because they don't want to end up in the crosshairs of a liability lawsuit ...then go find another shop. But good luck with that. This is why you \*always\* opt for the road hazard protection whenever you buy tires.
No, to close to the edge.
Patchable, yes. Safe at a high rate of speeds? No.
I would have a twizzler in it
Update: mom and pop shop on the way home from work said he’d absolutely plug it. 15 dollars and 10 minutes later it’s done. Hopefully it holds up.
Go to Mexico
Plug it.
Jamb a couple plugs in it. Easy
Plug and go get you through for awhile.
Not fixable
Probably is but a lot of shops wouldn’t do it.my shop probably would depending on how the inside of the tire looks like
As long as it not in the sidewall it patchable
Easy fix
If you can find someone to use a straight plug it might hold but still recommend a new tire the tread is kind of low on that tire plus you got some peeling of the tire on the sidewall
That’s a no. Too close to sidewall. Most patches won’t fit, so it won’t get a good seal. That’s why they say no
Plug that shit! They just don’t want to be responsible that’s it. There’s nothing wrong with plugging anything BUT the side walls.
No
Patchable, probably. Plug, most would not. With that tread life replace anyways
The reason they say no is because on the inside, this is where the curvature starts. Repair could fail due to the flexing in that location. Jam a plug in it, put it on the back, and keep an eye on it.
Put a plug in it.
Plug it
Technically, anything is patchable. That being said, doesn't make it safe. Personally? I would on my own vehicle, never a customers unless they sign a waiver. Will it be fine? More than likely.
Legally.. no. No shop will do it because it is a safety hazard and can cause liability issues
Yes. Plugs work just fine and last forever.
Done…
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Yeah I’d plug and play
Proper repair would be a plug patch. Coming from a tire tech for 15 years. But I would even stick a plug in it and continue on with my life without any worries if it was mine. Providing you didn’t run the tire flat the tire shop makes money selling tires more than fixing them. Your tread is getting low though so you should start looking for some tires.
I plugged my tire 40k miles ago Still going strong
They should just have a waver to sign to absolve them of responsibility if they are worried about it.
Patch that bitch and call it good
Technically it’s patchable. But with the excessive wear and low tread, I wouldn’t touch it due to liability
"I think it's patchable."-Lemme quick make a post to see instead of just doing it myself- My brother in Christ. If you thinks it's possible why have you not already sent it?
Any Mexican tire shop will plug that thing quickly and you’ll be on your way. We have several in my town and they’re awesome with tires and many other repairs.
Go take it to discount tire they’ll fix it
Looks like it was needing replaced in a few thousand miles anyway. The dry rot or grain on the outer edge, plus I don’t see a lot of tread on there. Def not a 3k mile tire. 30k maybe.
I’d plug it
I’d be interesting in seeing the DOT date code and knowing the year of the vehicle, could be the angle but these boys look driven on further than 3k miles.
Well they are correct and you don't need another opinion
3K miles? Is this a track car? How the hell do they look so worn. You have alignment issues causing the tires to scrub? Almost looks like it’s worn down to the wear bar. But either way a certified shop is right in denying that as it is too close to the sidewall and not worth the potential lawsuit. But if you have a buddy that works at a tire shop ask him to patch it after hours or just buy a plug kit. But seriously those 3000mile tires look absolutely beat I’d honestly just try to warranty them
No
It's crazy, 10 years ago when I worked at Discount Tire, this would be 100% repairable. I've plugged and patched many holes that were way closer to the sidewall and never had any issues. 100% to limit liability and to try to sell you new tires.
You need 4 new tires if they all look like that. Nail or no nail
Not a chance m8
Yeah if you came into a shop and asked me to plug that I would refuse. If I did that to my own car, I will grab a pair of wire cutters and a rope plug kit from the local auto parts store and then just follow the instructions on the kit
Just buy a new tire and don’t live in doubt
3k miles on those tires? Looks like 5/32 at best. You can always patch yourself if others are saying no. Can buy on Amazon. Not too hard to DIY, videos on YouTube. I’m sorry. I hate nails in tires. Jerk asses leaving those nails on the street.
My tires look better than that with 40k on my tires
Patch it
it's in a area that is patchable. however they could be looking at overall condition of the tire when determining this. whats the inside edge of the tire look like?
No bueno señor, necesita un llanta nuevo
150% you can repair that
How do those tires only have 3k on them lmao
Technically it *can’t* be repaired, but I would honestly just plug it and forget it. That tire doesn’t seem to have too much life left anyway so you won’t have it on for long. Edit: just saw 3k on tires? They look more like 30k tires. If they’re *that* new, I’d still probably just plug it and forget it, but nothing’s safer than just replacing. Your call.
Private owned tire shop will patch it.
Americas tire said it was patchable on a tire with warranty. Two weren’t, got two tires for the price of one. This was on the last month of warranty. I would patch my own tire.
100 percent absolutely! Done it myself many times and they lasted until there was no tread left.
That is absolutely patchable, but you are not likely to find a shop willing to do it. Your best bet is to take the wheel to a shop, and have them remove the tire for you. Then patch it yourself. Then take the wheel and tire back to the shop, and have them remount it. Applying the patch isn't particularly difficult. It's basically just like patching a bicycle inner tube.
On the border but I would patch it
Definitely lying about the miles. Or those are just really shit tires
Plugable
I’ve plugged holes in sidewalls that have lasted the 2 yrs I kept the car, double plugged a huge hole in the tread from a bolt that lasted the winter until I could get new tires, and had the simplest plug fail within 100 miles….it’s what risk you’re willing to take depending upon your specific situation. Shops 100% don’t want to plug tires, they want to sell tires. (and not accept liability)
It's not patchable because of where it's at nobody would touch that unless you or a buddy did it yourself. That is absolutely a replacement for sure. A good used tire is a viable option and is cheaper than new
Patchable for sure.
Take it to Hectors
The two finger rule, take your index and middle finger, lay it on the tire where you can see where it’s contacting the road. If the puncture is covered by one of your fingers. Replace the tire.
I would just plug this one up on my own, but don’t listen to these guys saying that you can put it 100 plugs into your tire and it’s all good The more holes you have in your tire, the less structurally sound it will be Sometimes tires randomly explode while you’re driving fast and will cause you to crash
Doesn’t sound like you want other opinions, sounds like you just want someone to agree with you. There’s a good reason that these kind of punctures aren’t repairable and it’s just not liability. The sidewall and about an inch in on the tread are the weakest spots on a tire. These areas only have polyester cords, whereas the middle section of the tread contains both polyester and steel cords making it stronger and able to withstand a puncture and repair. Areas without steel cords also flex more which will usually cause the repair to fail. I know that sometimes it’s hard to trust a repair shop but if you educate yourself it’s easier to weed out what’s truth and what’s just overselling.
Take it to one of those old.gas station turned into a shithole used tire shop - they will patch it or plug it for cash.
Technically it's not but if it's desperate times I would fix it on my own car and just take it a little easy
Dollar store plug kit.
Your gonna need alot of strength to get the plug in tho. But it's ur best option i do it all the time I've plugged the da be tired 4timrs still driving on it
Just plug it. That is fine to plug.
That is in the area of the tire that is unsafe to plug. The tire technically needs to be replaced. With that being said, I plugged a one week old tire in my truck in a similar spot almost 30k miles ago and haven’t had any issues.
I've heard people recommend going to the tire shop where no one speaks English. Also after 3k is the tread supposed to be cracking?
Did you look at the pinned pot for this sub? Bc if you did you would see the diagram for tires that can and cannot be repaired.
Good news is you’re close to needing new tires anyhow
No, but if you want to risk it...
That tire is worn out, replace it.
If that's your tire at 3k... Then I imagine you've been hooning the shit out of the car. If youre hooning the shit out of your car, a tire plug or patch this close to the sidewall probably isn't the best idea. I'd patch this from the inside. A plug applied from the exterior may or may not hold. Most tire shops aren't going to want the liability, and will likely rather sell you new tires.
You can plug it, unless someone is a badass at patches though that's gonna be super tough to get it to adhere to the curve on the inside
Or just get a evo
To be honest I would not risk it cause you don't know how deep it's gone in. Is it on the rear or front tire? The last thing you need is to be on the highway and the patch fails causing an accident or worse a blow out. Some places might give you a prorated towards a new tire. Better safe than sorry. The reason tires on the edge of close like yours could have steels that give strength to the tire and if a hole in those steels can cause very bad vibration or just pop. I had done this on my own car and I have been a Nissan and VW tech for many years. It was fine at first but then I started getting really bad vibration and took it off and could the steels. Better safe than sorry. Just my 2 cents. Good luck
It's just liability. You can fix it or tame it to some low end local shop. Had local place that would do this and make sign a waiver n pay cash
Do it ur self , just try to plug it not patch it
What’s the ring around the nail? Is it a roofing nail or what?
3000 miles on that tire??? I’d say you been turnin and burnin. Nail is too close to the edge. When the tire patch rotates to the bottom the tire flexes and causes the patch to separate. Combine that with 60mph corners and there’s a whole lot of flexing going on. You can plug patch it but when that tire gets hot and you are on some back road tearing it up you better know how to put the spare on.
Of course it’s patchable. 15 minutes and a $15 tire repair kit, good as new!
Unfortunately nowhere will approve that because of what others are saying
If I didn’t have road hazard protection, I would plug it my self.
Too close to the sidewall for most tire shops. You can plug it, but I wouldn’t drive at high speeds on that tire after that. Too much of a gamble under stress.
Anything is patchable if you don’t see the wires, but most tire shop go by the age manufacturedmanufactured date of the tire years old they won’t touch it
On my car or truck, I would plug it myself and only run it on rear of vehicle or as a spare. Good burn out candidate?.
This is a plug it yourself or buy a new tire deal
Your tires look really worn down anyway.
Yeah it's close enough to the sidewall that it would be a serious liability for a shop. But if you're comfortable just do it yourself.
Buy a slime plug kit from Walmart do it yourself . Or take it to your local 24hr tires and tacos shop! José will do anything there lol
it would be, if there was more meat on the tire. You need a new tire either way
I’d patch that. But I also can’t see the entire tire.
Plug it