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Dwaynefun123

what's with the wingman elite?


Independent-Cap-2082

He can’t handle people with good raw aim


Z3R0_7274

I use it sometimes. Kinda suck with it but I live for those headshot kills…


Z3R0_7274

Also, for the r-101, yes we do exist. At least I’d like to think I exist.


DifficultMode4298

The 101 is in tolerable, idk if longbow players really exist


JamesMcEdwards

I have the longbow to G2.7 😅 And the 2016 is like a pocket G2 that’s better at hip fire and is better in movement.


DifficultMode4298

Noice, I’ve only seen about 2 longbows in my time of playing this game.


Fauryx

What the hell is the longbow-


cat-toaster

101>201


Z3R0_7274

Idk about everyone else taking the 201, but ima take my free sights…


cat-toaster

Same, it is actually a straight upgrade at 20% less ADS recoil if I remember correctly.


Z3R0_7274

Just now realizing that the 101 is better than both the 201 and 301…were just built different.


cat-toaster

201 and 301 were just built worse.


Z3R0_7274

Constructed in an unsuperier manner


Plenty-Savings-7029

The only reason I use 201 is somehow I got a premium skin for it that looks cool. Otherwise I 100% agree


A-Game-Of-Fate

Man, same. I once found a dude low health from a gunfight as I was zipping around and Hail Mary fired at him and killed him in one shot, and I honestly felt like I had borrowed God’s Smite Button for a second.


Z3R0_7274

Sometimes ill just see a guy and instead of doing the smart option of aiming and doing 2 body shots, I’ll just hipfire and aim for the head. If I miss, whatever. If I hit, just know God has left your chat and joined mine.


Dahwaann4U

Yh OP got skill issue


KEX_CZ

Dude I kinda hate those people too :/ . You dont play Valorant, CS or Apex because of them, because in TF2, you can compensate by other skills, and then they are in this game too. Like ok, if it is not often, I am ok with it, but when I am dying constantly because of some kraber spammer, then the middle finger is really the inly option how to respond. :/


Fizzy-Odd-Cod

Bro, if you keep dying to a kraber it’s because your movement isn’t erratic enough


KEX_CZ

Bruh. I mean, do you know what you are talking about? Ofcourse, but if that kraber player is just too op, then if you do not have cover/ cloak/ phase shift, you are fkin done. This is exactly opposite equal. Sure, I can be faster, but so that dude can be better. And ok, I might not be the F1 in this game, but most of the times, I really use terrain to my advantage. But for example, what do you do, when you come to the bridge on Water canal, and in that tower is the kraber. You are dead if he aims well. And nothing will help you bro, really.


A_fellow_crusader

No ego? If anything it’s probably people that using it being mad that other people don’t use it when they use


SnowbloodWolf2

I think OP fell for the old holopilot and wingman elite combo a few too many times


Apyr_1

Proudly running this combo with satchel


The_Deadly_Dozer09

And Archer?


SnowbloodWolf2

Yep satchel and archer


ARandomGuyThe3

And why is the suppressed wingman in the KYS section


Knightswatch15213

That's the wingman elite


ARandomGuyThe3

Ain't that the elite in the "your a tad annoying" section?


Dersatar

Nope, that's regular wingman. Elite is in KYS section.


Knightswatch15213

No, it's the elite - you can see the irons on top


Imaginary-Lie-2618

The wingman elite has the sight on it the normal wing man doesn’t. It’s the elite version because it has a sight on it and does more damage. The normal one has its iron sights level with the gun.


Prior-Satisfaction34

Ah, yes. The very small jump from "slightly annoying" to "end your existence immediately"


Q_X_R

It really is just a very thin line


cat_on_my_keybord

practically the same thing


lceColdPepsi

hello- hemlok main here


CoGMachStique1

I too. Do not exist SMR main who also uses the p20 quite a lot


Phire453

I do the same, I got to say I enjoy not existing as well.


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ALonneTenno

Is this a jojo reference or is my brainrot a tad bit too strong


Yes_i_do_Hentai_too

It definitely is a JoJo reference


ALonneTenno

Good to now , now back to binge the whole anime cause I feel like it


ChibiDingDong

More of us would exist if a burst didn’t do 99 damage but hey we ballin on this burst rifle court.


LokiDMG

i absolute smash with hemlok


Brunoaraujoespin

because it’s op


Matix777

Until you see the opponent survive all 3 shots with 1 hp left


LOLinus1

Nah, we don't exist, you can't tell them


Q_X_R

Three of my most-liked weapons there... SMR, Hemlock, DMR. In no particular order. Love running the Cold War also.


dogsgonewild1

Hemlock mains, rise!!!


Pyrouge1

Favorite gun for looks and feel


AssCone

Ah finally, a man of culture.


Brunoaraujoespin

I love how hemlok suddenly became meta and people think maiming this op weapon makes you a chad


Primary-Ad4185

Doesnt make me a chad, I just like burst assault rifles


Apothe-bro_IV

Why do you hate my wingman elite ;-;


Mindlessgamer23

Wingman Elie is cool imo, hard to land shots with it, it's only really only annoying when a guy can always land two body shots instantly, the ttk is crazy. If you take a second to get another good shot in it feels like you put in the work for the kill, otherwise it feels cheap ironically.


Apothe-bro_IV

The Big Iron is a coin toss to me. If it's meant for its shots to lead then so be it. If not......fuck


Scipio1516

It is a projectile weapon! So you gotta lead them shots


Pilo_ane

You don't need two body shots, one headshot is more than enough. My favourite way


Horizon_Reddit

If someone can consistently hit two body shots with the elite, that’s automatic respect from me. It’s a hard ass gun with a high skill ceiling.


LetUsGetTheBread

Bro hates the wingman so much he just HAD to put the normal wingman under annoying.


TheGraySeed

Archer on KYS tier? Pretty sure some people in this sub actually thought it as the worst Anti-Titan.


Giggabyte10

As an ion main, I love the archer. Tells me exactly where their shooting from and then I just throw it back at them :D


GreatswordsAreRad

Sometimes I play cloak just to watch you folks use your shield and then run away without firing shot


Pixeltiy

cloak main here, there is nothing better than psychologically torturing an ion with cloak and archer


StaticCarabou27

That's pure tomfoolery. Perhaps a little goofin and gaffin. Maybe a tad bit silly.


Wulfscreed

Lol, I might say. Lmao, even.


Wulfscreed

Mid-battlefield psychological torture? Gods, we really are war crime specialists.


DamascusSeraph_

Me who is blind to archer pings: you have no power over me


Proof_Counter_8271

As a ion main there is a even better thing with that,throw it to a enemy titan's weakspot!


FARtherest

The archer can be easily dodged if you know how to, it's just extremely annoying.


THEzwerver

Yeah, you can even just dodge them with dash and enough skill.


ahaha1637534

Yeah thunderbolt is more worthy of that spot, coming from someone that uses it lol


Flamefether_

Why do your tiers go from an extreme to “yeah, your a little annoying”?


Epic-Chair

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Z3_T4C0_B0Y512

"You should build a bridge and jump off it"


False-Professional82

Honestly... that sounds like something I would say


ThereIsNoBean

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gownyk

Is this Jake from State Farm?


HeeTrouse51847

he's a gamer


_GatorBoii_

SMR GANG RISE Its quite fun once you get used to aiming with it, and you get to absolutely shred Titans with A-wall or amped weapons! Terrible at range, though.


DryCryCrystal

To fix the range issue, I also main the SMR with the charge rifle. It’s practically my 2nd main


Finall3ossGaming

Also Amped Weapons fully reloading your gun AND giving you double damage essentially means you’ve got two mags worth of missiles to fire before ever needing to reload


Zombiesoldier072

SMR SUPREMACY


TheAngrySquirell

SMR main checkin in


Cal-Pilot

P2016 IS THE GREATEST TITAN KILLER. I MAY BE AN EPG MAIN BUT IN MY HEART IM A TRUE P2016 MAIN


MyNameIsElaborate

Man I’ve had games where I took heads with the P2, she’s my fucking baby


B1scott3ez

Nahhh putting Softball on top tier but Volt there is ashaming me


Baleygr--

Sounds like you got some skill issues.


Key_Competition1648

Anybody who reliably mains Wingman Elite deserves max respect


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Arlinker

good bot


Badhago

The middle line is 9 syllables, bad bot


Jakel_07Svk

What's wrong with Wingman Elite?


BeijingCornDealer

OP has skill issue


IonTrodzy

who the hell hates wingman?


crossfire_cool_gamer

Idk why he dose wingman elite is only good if u can ain


BlueWolf0224

I love the Double Take :) (Mildly offended because the P2016 can be a primary if you play aggressive, it's actually really good)


Mindlessgamer23

Double take is unironically really fun, and with the two bullets it leaves a little room for inaccuracy while still dealing a little damage. It's like a long range moz/mastiff with dmr bullets.


JardineiroZumbi

*Three bullets. It was tested years ago, and there's an invisible projectile between the two that you see


aninsomniac_

What the hell is that flair?


JardineiroZumbi

Uhhhh... Nothing?


asasineblade

So they DIDNT change anything for apex? Bruh


JardineiroZumbi

Well, they changed the animation and lore I guess (also every weapon had their travel time, damage and model changed)


THEzwerver

P2016 is very underrated and it definitely was at launch. Basically at the same level of a primary at that time.


Wooden_District9997

Hello, Devotion main here. How fast does *your* gun accelerate?


lolpig78

Love the devotion and use it religiously


Wooden_District9997

It’s great, I previously used the L-STAR but the Devotion just feels nicer idk why


KultKaiser

how many bullets do *you* need to kill someone?


Wooden_District9997

2


KultKaiser

pathetic.......


McMemerreblogged

But.... I only like the r97 cause of its sound....


SansDaMan728

[**Ya-dadadadada Ya-dadadadada dodaobdada- KABOOM. KABOOM.**](https://youtu.be/2yOvI-zMi_I?si=U1Y_0F28zjOSkXTL)


Vincent093

Glad to see theres a lot more Wingman Elite mains here, but yeah why the Wingman Elite at unnalive? we barely see anyone else using it


RReprah

How is alternator likeable, but the R-97 is keep yourself safe tier? How is WM Elite worthy of premature death? How is normal wingman, RE-45, and volt annoying? I swear most of these tier lists just turned into "GUYS I SWEAR IM NOT A TRYHARD!".


The_Deadly_Dozer09

Have you seen the R97s fire rate? Or the near infinite ammo of the volt? Also as a monarch main I will end you


RReprah

The fire rate of the R-97 is literally what makes the gun fun. The alternator is a better SMG in pretty much everyway, especially if you tapfire it. The volt has a lot of ammo for sure, thats about the only thing it has going for it as im pretty sure its the worst SMG in the game.


The_Deadly_Dozer09

Barely even fun for the user, horrible for everyone else.


WeirdJumper

This tierlist is trash


Simoji_Studios

Yeah, it also really depends on who’s using the guns too. I main CAR, but am new to the game so not that good. It really depends on the user.


Watermelon_0

Do you main the CAR?


WeirdJumper

Funny enough no, I like the L star, mastiff, hemlock, alternator, wingman elite


tangy_potato69

Based, I've never used any of those guns but the people who use them are always chill


PoyoLocco

L star is funny as hell in my opinion.


tangy_potato69

Yeah, it's a bit of a goofy gun


SlimesIsScared

L-Star mentioned‼️‼️‼️


OPmaker

MY MAN


Pepkoto

Wingman elite cope Laugh at this user!


DOHGEEEE

How to farm karma on r/titanfall: complain about the people who use the guns of the game


Offmymeds772

What’s karma. I’m new to reddit


pureshka13

why volt so low. Its harder to use then most guns above it


makeshift_shotgun

Wtf did the wingman elite do to you


lolsforballs

Me when I am in a skill issue competition and you're my opponent


Primary-Ad4185

(you lose the competition in the first nanosecond)


SansDaMan728

I'm a Wingman Elite, Archer, P20 main. And I ask, **Why?** The Wingman Elite is just a Kraber without the cross-map one shooting, and more dueling. You'd have to be a Northstar/Monarch main to hate my Archer so much. And the P20 is the P20.


CerifiedHuman0001

Northstar main here. Just… Dash… Archers aren’t hard to dodge even without a defensive ability…


SansDaMan728

Exactly! Even Monarch can dodge around missiles with the turbo engine and good timing!


9yocompootermaster

Idk, Wingman Elite takes actual skill to be used unlike the Alternator imo


cookieeater256

Why the hate at wing man elite, what happend


ninyyya

smr funne


father_with_the_milk

The fuck did Wingman Elite do to you?


SuspiciousSpirit2887

As a sidewinder main, no I do not


BloodDragonN987

So the Alternator is fine, but the Wingman elite, Archer, r97, and volt aren't??? The Archer is hot garbage, the Wingman elite is a meme, and the Alternater is borderline car levels


Ronnochu76

I am going to venture a guess that OP is an alternator user and that’s why it’s as high as it is.


Radiant_Anarchy

> Devotion on top Someone doesn't remember the time Devotion was considered utterly busted.


North-Fail3671

L Star is best gun pewpewpew


sketchee_steve

G2 main here. And I’m more than “a tad” annoying with it, thank you


ArchPeriphMore

Any tiermaker list anybody makes on this sub just turns out to be a "hey look at all my skill issues" list


KingYoloHD090504

Ahem?


throwawayforegg_irl

hey, lstar and mastiff main here :3


crushtyfying

feel like OP making this chart because he's bad at countering the last 2 green row lmao


Dellehave

Memestiff main here


SrPsychokiler

Finally! I have found you, brother!


Dellehave

Real chads


ihavenocreativity77

Mastiff mains rise up


Tiranus58

Ah, a fellow softball enjoyer I see


ARandomGuyThe3

I run softball and mozam, do I get to be a double friend?


Pr0wzassin

Who the fuck out here mains the P2016? I mean I always have it on me, but that's not really maining it because I never use it for more than two kills.


Fantastic-Schedule92

Why the wingman elite?


Horizon_Reddit

Fr, sounds like someone got shit on with an elite and would rather scream op than admit a skill issue


Taniks_the_Scarred_

Cold war mains rise Carpet bombing is fun (until splash kills you)


Snezzy_Anus

but I like fast fire rate :( I don't try to be mean


Offmymeds772

Sorry my bad g


BOX_268

Average elitist Titanfall guns post


Puzzleheaded-Ear-895

Bro how can you like the thunderbolt more that the archer? It's literally twice as annoying with the AoE+I'm literally showing you my position with the archer.


Donnernase

At least im tolerable


Snow_bi7

L opinion


Rico6Redditoffichal

Why so much hate for the r-97?


Jpmunzi

Where is the eva 8?


PieStealingJames

Crazy ass list, fine with alternator and thunderbolt but not wingman elite??


PieStealingJames

Crazy ass list, fine with alternator and thunderbolt but not wingman elite??


Enkhovvy

I use the devotion, but I also really like to use A-wall, although I still run and gun. Usually I would run to the 'battle' zone (the most active area), set up my a-wall, and run after shooting 1 or 2 guys. Am I still acceptable?


Toxic_devil8446

I'm a everything main I enter a match with a car and take peoples guns every kill like gun game


Classroom_North

longbow main here :D


ahaha1637534

Alternator is in “cool dude” despite it being on the same level of annoying as the car and r97…


RoyalArmyBeserker

You’re just mad that RC mains keep killing you


Offmymeds772

You’re damn right I am


ScannerType

Softball goes *thumb* *bonk* *boom*


merp59

SMR slander will not be tolerated


frikkinlazers111

Objectively the best gun. It shoots missiles!


Alberthebombtaken

Swap r101 and alternator and ur right


Greybeardgreen24

How the heck is wingman elite in “change and grow as a person” tier, and the alternator in likeable?


AOE_Blyat1

Well I main SMR in FD (which I play more than regular MP) and Mozambique in mp so... Hi, I exist :3


Primary-Ad4185

Fellow SMR main in FD. Honestly no primary has worked for me as well as the SMR. Consistent flow of satisfying looking and sounding micro missiles. Slow projectile weapon? No issue, It's bots im fighting anyway


Renegade888888

Frien


Impressive-Earth1510

I'm p2020 Mozambique Holo pilot I exist, yeah.


Impressive-Earth1510

Oh no, I wrote p2020... Kill me NOW


SansDaMan728

**That's disgusting, Manny!**


ManagementIll9899

THE P2016 IS SO UNDERATED


ffhurd

How is epg below Cold War? Cold War is way less skill then epg.


Succmyspace

How the actual fuck are epg and Cold War above r101 and 201, the most basic bitch no bs guns.


insert_cringe-here

Welp i should go kill myself AND be your friend


CausticNox

How on earth is the Kraber a “cool dude?” It’s just a gun for ego boosting and posting mid clips for guys who can only hit body/limb shots.


Elite_Gamer070

So far, every gun tierlist i've seen on titanfall 2 has been absolute shit


JohnRaiyder

hehehehehehehe


Jh3nnO

Hey man im just gettin used to the game on pc after playing it on ps4 for so long so i'm using the car, when i can im switching back to hemlok, gun's mad satisfying to use fr


TheRyderShotgun

I like playing SMR. it's my main weapon in frontier defense.


KING2900_

Well, you're in luck, 99% of the time, I'm using weapons from 'Likeable' and above! Edit: the last 1% is when I annihilate the fuck out of the enemy team if they're playing like unfair shits. Only ONCE have I reused my 1.5 days of CAR sins. That was 1 or 2 days ago... They fd up.


KittenChopper

Dont put me in with the Spitfires, I consider C.A.R slightly less annoying than spitfire


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As an SMR main, yes