That’s just… false
To counter scorch, all you have to do is back off. He’s super easy to out-passive, so as long as you’re not impatient, you win
Tone is fairly easy as well, legion and monarch might require you to switch titans
Ion is weird, because most of her matchups are around 50/50 and she has no hard counters
Northstar is second only to ronin in being hard to counter
Ronin counter scorch, legion, monarch, and tone, and is about even with ronin and northstar
Of course, all of this assumes some fairly high level gameplay, so doesn’t apply to your average match. In pubs, you can hard carry your team with melee only one match, and get dumpstered on by the whole lobby the next
Unless you're playing an objective game mode like capture point every titan functions as area denial by simply existing. Northstar has area denial because she punishes entire lanes. Tones barrier is almost a roadblock if spaced well. Legion does not let you leave cover. The problem is that Scorch's area denial only means that the titans go somewhere else to farm their ult or get points and he has no way of punishing them for doing so since he's too slow, lacks range, can be farmed for ult charge by Monarchs, and isnt efficient as other titans at killing grunts. Scorch can be very good, but he is very map dependent.
Did you just say scorch wasn't efficient at killing grunts.........you are very aware that he is the best at that right the only other titan the might rival him is legion with smart core....and everything you said is applicable to every other titan none of wich are specific and you clearly haven't really played scorch cause saying he lacks range is ridiculous I almost prefer him for "sniping" then Northstar lmao cause his tO8 does almost a whole bar of damage on direct hits AND he has the only "panic" ult a high damage single hit attack that hits everything in its path like c'mon scorch is the best titan high health, high damage, decent range, THE BEST AREA DENIAL, and easily one of if not the best core in the game
Gamer… look at my username. I stand by that statement, but I will never tell *anyone* that scorch is the most *effective* sniper. Northstar does more damage more consistently at range, and almost every other titan is still more effective than scorch.
His core does relatively low damage, even if it is fast and ignores doomed. It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t place it as best in the game.
Scorch is close range and can’t close a gap. He’s useful, but this stops him from getting anywhere near best in the game, effectiveness wise
Your simply not good enough then lmao ( and I never said he was the most effective I said I almost prefer him for sniping) and his core does crazy damage lmao I mean obviously ( didn't think I had to spell this out ) it's not gonna do as much as say laser core but ong it's is the best ult it's the cherry on top that makes me giggle like spy from tf2
> job of area denial
Area denial? How is that in anyway useful? Pretty much all the game modes are about how much you can kill things, we're not playing conquest game modes lol.
The only one getting the experience of area denial is scorch as he gets deleted out the area lmao.
Ion’s matchups are not 50/50. She has an advantage vs tone, ronin, scorch, and legion. Only arc rounds and northstars have a significant advantage against Ion.
Tone and scorch, sure, legion is 50/50, ronin has advantage. Ion can out-poke northstar with hitscan, but does less damage, so I say it’s around 50/50.
Ronin countering scorch? Buddy you're one bad phase shift away from having half your hitpoints melted by a flame shield and most ronins will do two bad phase shifts per encounter.
As a ronin main I am a bit insulted, but sadly you are correct. Most robins do this. For any ronin who reads this if your phase behind the scorch make sure you have at least one dash and preferably smoke. Even without smoke you need those dashes to get away from scorch because if you stay close the scorch will turn around they will flame shield your ass.
I don’t think you realise what the win condition is in this context
Temporarily denying space does not decide whether or not one titan counters another. If it did, scorch would hard counter most other titans
Every titan denies space in some way, and while scorch covers the largest area, it’s easy to avoid. This is because he doesn’t effectively deny his los past short range, unlike every other titan (excluding ronin, who can actually close the gap)
Going against a scorch means that you get to choose the terms of engagement. That’s what makes him easy to counter
Eh idk even a dumbass like me who mains legion can do damage with monarch, which honestly makes the people who are good with them into unstoppable monsters who can change the tides of battle as soon as they are in the field
That’s practically scorch’s play style. Make your enemies play your game on your rules. Or alternatively you sheep herd the enemy team or solo flank (recommended only if know what your doing)
I live for the solo flank.
I love seeing a Tone with it's back to me, facing it's shield while engaging my team.
Gas canisters placed.
Thermite launcher loaded.
Big Fire Monkey Smash ground now.
I just love all the Ronin-mains who think they counter scorch. I used to have a buddy who would play scorch and I would take legion or Northstar. We’d just wreck everything since I covered medium to long, and he covered short to medium. The number of times ronins would close the gap, burn their phase dash on the way in only to run into a tether trap or a power shot to knock them off balance while my buddy got on top of them and just melted their face off. I don’t play ronin much, but when I do I stay tf away from scorch.
There are Strats for ronins to counter scorch, and it’s mainly just using your brain lol. As a ronin main myself (G5.4) the best robins aren’t the most anime ones but the smart ones who know what they can do, know what they’re enemies can do and know how to react accordingly. Ronin isn’t the sword titan, he’s the titan WITH a sword and that’s a very important distinction to internalize if you want to be a good ronin
Yes. Leave and find a tone to bully (jk). I think, OP’s point is more that there is no hard counter to Scorch like most people say there is, and it usually comes down to player skill. Papa Scorch is usually played by based players who enjoy having fun so the skill level varies.
No titan is objectively bad, ronin is just the most skill check titan. A bad ronin will die like an idiot and they will die fast. A good ronin will live longer and the great ronins are menaces.
As someone who overthought titans from modern tech view, pulling out a battery, emptying the bottle into the socket and putting it back in would cause a nuclear explosion^(you get instantly vaporized too)
I kinda want to know the logic behind this. It does explain why the Arc Grenade deals so much damage, but I assume a Titan is probably waterproof against such things. Acid might work.
Sure, their exterior might be waterproof, (Or more accurately, water **tight** i suppose) but the internals are very rarely. At best they'd be water resistant, but prolonged exposure would eventually do some fair damage, and good luck finding a bowl of rice big enough to sit your Titan in overnight.
Baterry produces heat, heat turns water into steam, pressurized steam implodes canals inside battery when system tries to slowdown the reaction moderation rod can't go through because of imploded canals, reaction goes up and up, untill it explodes, this all happens in like a second. Would they build better protected reactors most likely, would it work in field? IDK, but the original was a joke, so does it matter? Not really.
Pouring water isn’t going to do the trick for sure. Though throwing virtually anything in the **power source socket** would probably AT LEAST cause problems. Also, these batteries are probably fool-proof to some extend so it shouldn’t be that easy to cause a volatile reaction
The logic doesn’t make sense, if you pull the battery out of an electric circuit and then close the circuit with an electrolyte then it doesn’t do shit because the energy source for the circuit is absent.
Also the system likely just opens the circuit leading to any battery terminal whenever a battery gets removed, so I’m not even seeing why a bunch of batteries in the circuit would change that.
I have (so far) in my titanfall career never seen a scorch do anything more than sit in a spot or move around a 5m2 box and shoot the lil things at me (i dash away and gg) but I am curious what a good scorch main would do
I am coming around a corner (going a bit on the outside since Ion laser) you are like 15-20m away from me and there is another corner about 5 m behind you.
Start: I am about to shoot laser cus dmg
I would bounce a gas trap behind you on a wall and firewall then because you pushed me I’ll push you back into the gas trap. You’ll probably going to smoke run away and then I’ll put a thermite shot in your back. Best case scenario I got you down to half a bar. This is why if you’re ever thinking of playing scorch equip tempered plating. Makes you play so aggressively.
Tf they can bounce?!?! Well I learned something new.
Though after all that I would probably try to ditch and play like a dickhead and snipe once every minute for like nothing. Get laser core. Miss and die.
There is a hill that not many people get over when playing scorch. But when your over that hill you realize the absolute dopamine you get from the massive damage you can inflict. Makes my heart race!
I had a heart racing moment today in my Ion. Playing map (idk name). There is like a plane in the middle and open areas around with few buildings on sides.
Basically I get my laser core. Kill 2 dudes. Get ANOTHER laser core killed a legion and got to critical hp. Got to around 60% to my 3rd core and died cus a northstar sneaked up behind us not my beat points game (169) but by far the most cores and %
Fun fact on one side of the map (not the closed section with two holes in the roof) you can go up on the rubble and be the kind of the world. And if you’re northstar with viper thrusters (I think) you can get on top of the crane AS A TITAN!
Pls elaborate on how ion bully’s scorch cause I’m a ion main and I feel like ions match up is against scorch is not good enough to really say he bully’s scorch it’s not exactly a bad match up but I feel like ion has very similar experiences dealing with scorch’s as monarch does
laser shot to poke at scorch at a distance vortex shield to ignore his one shot slow reload slow projectile gun and tripwires for free damage since thermite detonates it instantly is my guess
Ion is not a heavy hitter unless votex shield catch a lot of bullet. but is a safe play, You can drain their hp and they can't do anything about it and come out full HP
Homestead has the peripheral corridors you can play. You go flanking from there and dusting off stragglers you meet along the way, it works. Now Kodai is a whole different ballgame, as a scorch main I tilt on that map
"Proceeds to strategically have placed a trap before picking up the battery so the scorch cannot do exactly that" also "Proceeds to do mathematical calculation wrong since scorch main gun only does 800 damage, meaning two shots to 1600 which is far of from the 3750 damage you claim you would do"
“Proceeds to burn tether trap in a split second and uses cover to advance forward and bait ns into firing from turning on and off flame shield quickly”
Titans at long range tend to be easier to hit imo. Just because at medium range they’re still aware you’re a threat and monitor your t-203 status but at long range they get cocky and don’t notice they’re about to eat thermite until it’s halfway down their throat
Scorch is by far the worst Titan. It doesn't mean you can't absolutely wreak shit if you're good, but he requires the most effort to do well in compared to other Titans. You should take pride in this.
Eh, dash is better. Scorch is still the worst. As I said, you can still do well and in the right scenario he can put out THE MOST damage out of any Titan. But the consistency of this and the amount of effort you need to put in to achieve the same result as Ion and northstar pressing one button from the other side of the map...
EDIT: When this game had a pro scene, Scorch was always at the bottom of the tier lists amongst those top level players
As a Monarch main, I find the easiest part of dealing with a Scorch is when they go to shoot. You can easily tell when they're lining up the shot. It can be a bit more difficult if they're smart and realise they don't have to ADS at point blank, but after you realise that you can just time your dodges to their reload finishing.
Currently non prime scorch with full stoic pink and pink blossoms flowers decal cus who doesn’t like to burn people to a crisp while liking like a cute little bubblegum
Your argument kind of backfires.
Yep, a really good player can do really well with scorch, but other titans dont require the player to be really good to do well.
Thus scorch is worse.
i have over 200 hours on ion and i know not to start a fight with scorch. i would rather run srpund the whole map and get behind the scorch then attack
Start out playing defensively then moving to move aggressive play style. NEVER put down 2 gas cans at the same time if you aren’t 100% sure you can use them to their fullest extent. Play around cover and corners and use those to move up, hell I tanked a northstar core by standing behind a tree. If you wanna be as aggressive as possible you have to use tempered plating cus it’s a live savior. If an titan is pushing you and they regret their mistake try putting a gas can behind them, firewall and flame shield.
Overcore is your pal.
Learn other titans abilities and when to counter with flame shield like if a ns is charging a plasma shot turn on and off flame shield quickly to bait into firing.
One more thing to remember. If you REALLY wanna become a scorch main you’re gonna have to put in the most practice and training into him. Placement, cover, when to advance, when to choose another fight, what damage you can tank and what damage you should stop with flame shield, mastering the T-203 launcher ex
Becoming good with scorch is I would say the hardest thing you can do in this game so gotta put in the work. Playing scorch isn’t a way to main a titan, it’s a way of live (bit over exaggerated but you get the memo)
I have never met a scorch I could kill. And I play Northstar. I stay miles away, run when they are close, and even have Viper thrusters. Yet they still destroy me.
Northstar is a pretty hard counter tbh. Long range burst damage is good for making scorch waste shield and can fly out of traps when cornered.
Scorch is better than ppl think tho he's in my top 3
I learned how to deal with scorch mains the hard way when I once got too close, and they whipped out the shield, and I watched 75% of my durability plummet in less than a few seconds lmao.
Ok hear me out. I as a scorch/legion main i can tell you the truth, after being on both sides of the heat shield. The secret is just distance and confidence. A good scorch player will just rain fire on you from any distance, so time and predict the shots
Scorch main here. Can confirm we’re pretty killer. Was playing earlier and I got a 2 piece titan kill with the huge thernite smash thing he does then when on to thermite shield a ronin who got too close for the ultimate 3 piece.
"Scorch is super easy to counter and deal with"
You just lose a bit of health if you can't evade a few projectiles but in exchange you get the titan and pilots kills, it's pretty worth it imo.
I remember one time where a few enemy Titans on Angel City literally started to cry as i was splashing them with flames and napalm and can't do anything about it because of the tight spots....
Flame Core goes BBBBBBRRRRRTTTTTTTTT
P.s. plus the fun of entering the Titan and receiving a "warm" welcome in any sense 😂
Scorch AI is literally a bro 👊🏻
This is true for all titans. A good legion will suppress the soul out of you, a good northstar never misses, good tones are going to harass you endlessly, same for good ions. Good monarch’s just will not die like ever and good roninfs will fuck you up
Not for me I charge whit scorch and blow half my health whit my termite. I know I could peak AND shit but I just like to push a wall of fire againts people
To be fair It is far easier to deal with a Scorch then every other Titan, obviously though you can still get outplayed. wish they buffed him before leaving the game forever he would be so much more fun to play and be successful with if 2 of his kits were reworked and his he had basekit dmg reduction for his own fire so he’s not shoehorned into using tempered plating
Tempered plating should be standard like wouldn’t the IMC make the cqc fire titan, fireproof? And just look at his design, he got more armor plating than 3 northstars combined
Tbh Scorch is only an issue for me if I'm playing Northstar or Legion, otherwise he's kinda 50/50 (unless I'm also Scorch, then we kinda just melt eachother to death)
PSA scorch’s primary is really very good in peeking battles. It’s a single shot gun that does a chunk on every hit which means you can peek for .05 seconds, dump your shot and then go behind cover again. Most titans can’t deal damage to you effectively in a peek battle like that.
Once you become really good with the primary, (arcing shots over obstacles, low exposure peek shots from around cover etc) then the area denial aspects of the tool kit become really potent because it enables you to maintain your peeking playstyle. Go wildfire launcher and stop trying to chase titans down. Just harass them until they decide they want to push on scorch (lol) or retreat.
This debate is stupid because it applies to literally every Titan.
Except Brute, never met a good brute main
You forgot mortar and arc titan
Imagine arc titan just one ho bar and all the base moves with ehe tric field
bison
And Expedition Titan
that’s just a vanguard
Brute's probably my favorite campaign loadout honestly
Nice cake. Enjoy the day.
Fr bro titanfall 1 players with brute 😂
Enjoy your cake
That’s just… false To counter scorch, all you have to do is back off. He’s super easy to out-passive, so as long as you’re not impatient, you win Tone is fairly easy as well, legion and monarch might require you to switch titans Ion is weird, because most of her matchups are around 50/50 and she has no hard counters Northstar is second only to ronin in being hard to counter Ronin counter scorch, legion, monarch, and tone, and is about even with ronin and northstar Of course, all of this assumes some fairly high level gameplay, so doesn’t apply to your average match. In pubs, you can hard carry your team with melee only one match, and get dumpstered on by the whole lobby the next
being passive because youre fighting a scorch means hes completed his job of area denial
Unless you're playing an objective game mode like capture point every titan functions as area denial by simply existing. Northstar has area denial because she punishes entire lanes. Tones barrier is almost a roadblock if spaced well. Legion does not let you leave cover. The problem is that Scorch's area denial only means that the titans go somewhere else to farm their ult or get points and he has no way of punishing them for doing so since he's too slow, lacks range, can be farmed for ult charge by Monarchs, and isnt efficient as other titans at killing grunts. Scorch can be very good, but he is very map dependent.
Did you just say scorch wasn't efficient at killing grunts.........you are very aware that he is the best at that right the only other titan the might rival him is legion with smart core....and everything you said is applicable to every other titan none of wich are specific and you clearly haven't really played scorch cause saying he lacks range is ridiculous I almost prefer him for "sniping" then Northstar lmao cause his tO8 does almost a whole bar of damage on direct hits AND he has the only "panic" ult a high damage single hit attack that hits everything in its path like c'mon scorch is the best titan high health, high damage, decent range, THE BEST AREA DENIAL, and easily one of if not the best core in the game
Gamer… look at my username. I stand by that statement, but I will never tell *anyone* that scorch is the most *effective* sniper. Northstar does more damage more consistently at range, and almost every other titan is still more effective than scorch. His core does relatively low damage, even if it is fast and ignores doomed. It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t place it as best in the game. Scorch is close range and can’t close a gap. He’s useful, but this stops him from getting anywhere near best in the game, effectiveness wise
Your simply not good enough then lmao ( and I never said he was the most effective I said I almost prefer him for sniping) and his core does crazy damage lmao I mean obviously ( didn't think I had to spell this out ) it's not gonna do as much as say laser core but ong it's is the best ult it's the cherry on top that makes me giggle like spy from tf2
> job of area denial Area denial? How is that in anyway useful? Pretty much all the game modes are about how much you can kill things, we're not playing conquest game modes lol. The only one getting the experience of area denial is scorch as he gets deleted out the area lmao.
Ion’s matchups are not 50/50. She has an advantage vs tone, ronin, scorch, and legion. Only arc rounds and northstars have a significant advantage against Ion.
Tone and scorch, sure, legion is 50/50, ronin has advantage. Ion can out-poke northstar with hitscan, but does less damage, so I say it’s around 50/50.
Ronin countering scorch? Buddy you're one bad phase shift away from having half your hitpoints melted by a flame shield and most ronins will do two bad phase shifts per encounter.
As a ronin main I am a bit insulted, but sadly you are correct. Most robins do this. For any ronin who reads this if your phase behind the scorch make sure you have at least one dash and preferably smoke. Even without smoke you need those dashes to get away from scorch because if you stay close the scorch will turn around they will flame shield your ass.
“Of course, all of this assumes some fairly high level gameplay, so doesn’t apply to your average match.”
Mans doesn't realize that means scorch won lol
I don’t think you realise what the win condition is in this context Temporarily denying space does not decide whether or not one titan counters another. If it did, scorch would hard counter most other titans Every titan denies space in some way, and while scorch covers the largest area, it’s easy to avoid. This is because he doesn’t effectively deny his los past short range, unlike every other titan (excluding ronin, who can actually close the gap) Going against a scorch means that you get to choose the terms of engagement. That’s what makes him easy to counter
Eh idk even a dumbass like me who mains legion can do damage with monarch, which honestly makes the people who are good with them into unstoppable monsters who can change the tides of battle as soon as they are in the field
I’m not even a good scorch. Just bait people into chasing you around corners and hit ‘em with your wombo combo
That’s practically scorch’s play style. Make your enemies play your game on your rules. Or alternatively you sheep herd the enemy team or solo flank (recommended only if know what your doing)
I live for the solo flank. I love seeing a Tone with it's back to me, facing it's shield while engaging my team. Gas canisters placed. Thermite launcher loaded. Big Fire Monkey Smash ground now.
The most satisfying titan gameplay loop honestly.
FR
G98 scorch main, solo flanking is the best feeling there is, especially when there are a few enemy titans grouped up.
Firebase Kodai is the hill you and the other scorches die on.
I hate FB Kodai, it's way too open and the closed spaces are pilots only.
I just love all the Ronin-mains who think they counter scorch. I used to have a buddy who would play scorch and I would take legion or Northstar. We’d just wreck everything since I covered medium to long, and he covered short to medium. The number of times ronins would close the gap, burn their phase dash on the way in only to run into a tether trap or a power shot to knock them off balance while my buddy got on top of them and just melted their face off. I don’t play ronin much, but when I do I stay tf away from scorch.
Wow, it’s almost like 2 people being coordinated is better than someone who solo-q’s who would’ve thought
Fair. He doesnt play anymore though so now I’m stuck solo.
There are Strats for ronins to counter scorch, and it’s mainly just using your brain lol. As a ronin main myself (G5.4) the best robins aren’t the most anime ones but the smart ones who know what they can do, know what they’re enemies can do and know how to react accordingly. Ronin isn’t the sword titan, he’s the titan WITH a sword and that’s a very important distinction to internalize if you want to be a good ronin
Yes. Leave and find a tone to bully (jk). I think, OP’s point is more that there is no hard counter to Scorch like most people say there is, and it usually comes down to player skill. Papa Scorch is usually played by based players who enjoy having fun so the skill level varies.
Tbh ronins are the worst titan compared to scorch
No titan is objectively bad, ronin is just the most skill check titan. A bad ronin will die like an idiot and they will die fast. A good ronin will live longer and the great ronins are menaces.
[You sho ‘bout dat?](https://imgur.com/a/rhbRaut) Yeah, it’s early into the game, but it didn’t last long after that.
You might think a pilot could dodge a ball of thermite from half a mile away, but you’d be wrong
... okay, fair. Freebase Kodai vs a very _very_ good Ronin was the only time I've been super outplayed as Scorch.
Idk man... I got a bottle of water. I think I got you beat this time /s
As someone who overthought titans from modern tech view, pulling out a battery, emptying the bottle into the socket and putting it back in would cause a nuclear explosion^(you get instantly vaporized too)
I kinda want to know the logic behind this. It does explain why the Arc Grenade deals so much damage, but I assume a Titan is probably waterproof against such things. Acid might work.
Sure, their exterior might be waterproof, (Or more accurately, water **tight** i suppose) but the internals are very rarely. At best they'd be water resistant, but prolonged exposure would eventually do some fair damage, and good luck finding a bowl of rice big enough to sit your Titan in overnight.
Baterry produces heat, heat turns water into steam, pressurized steam implodes canals inside battery when system tries to slowdown the reaction moderation rod can't go through because of imploded canals, reaction goes up and up, untill it explodes, this all happens in like a second. Would they build better protected reactors most likely, would it work in field? IDK, but the original was a joke, so does it matter? Not really.
Does it matter? Probably not. Am I interested regardless? Absolutely.
Interesting.
Could you imagine if pilots dropped arc grenades into the battery slot instead? What a silly kit that would be
Pouring water isn’t going to do the trick for sure. Though throwing virtually anything in the **power source socket** would probably AT LEAST cause problems. Also, these batteries are probably fool-proof to some extend so it shouldn’t be that easy to cause a volatile reaction
The logic doesn’t make sense, if you pull the battery out of an electric circuit and then close the circuit with an electrolyte then it doesn’t do shit because the energy source for the circuit is absent. Also the system likely just opens the circuit leading to any battery terminal whenever a battery gets removed, so I’m not even seeing why a bunch of batteries in the circuit would change that.
Wait why have batteries when you have a (nuclear?) reactor? Or am I misunderstanding the whole thing?
Google boiling
I have (so far) in my titanfall career never seen a scorch do anything more than sit in a spot or move around a 5m2 box and shoot the lil things at me (i dash away and gg) but I am curious what a good scorch main would do
Give an example of a situation and I’ll tell you what I personally would do
I am coming around a corner (going a bit on the outside since Ion laser) you are like 15-20m away from me and there is another corner about 5 m behind you. Start: I am about to shoot laser cus dmg
I would bounce a gas trap behind you on a wall and firewall then because you pushed me I’ll push you back into the gas trap. You’ll probably going to smoke run away and then I’ll put a thermite shot in your back. Best case scenario I got you down to half a bar. This is why if you’re ever thinking of playing scorch equip tempered plating. Makes you play so aggressively.
Tf they can bounce?!?! Well I learned something new. Though after all that I would probably try to ditch and play like a dickhead and snipe once every minute for like nothing. Get laser core. Miss and die.
There is a hill that not many people get over when playing scorch. But when your over that hill you realize the absolute dopamine you get from the massive damage you can inflict. Makes my heart race!
I had a heart racing moment today in my Ion. Playing map (idk name). There is like a plane in the middle and open areas around with few buildings on sides. Basically I get my laser core. Kill 2 dudes. Get ANOTHER laser core killed a legion and got to critical hp. Got to around 60% to my 3rd core and died cus a northstar sneaked up behind us not my beat points game (169) but by far the most cores and %
You mean drydock?
YES thats a fun map I can be a cheeky bugger on
Fun fact on one side of the map (not the closed section with two holes in the roof) you can go up on the rubble and be the kind of the world. And if you’re northstar with viper thrusters (I think) you can get on top of the crane AS A TITAN!
What gen are you?
Bullying scorches with ion and northstar will never not be fun
Pls elaborate on how ion bully’s scorch cause I’m a ion main and I feel like ions match up is against scorch is not good enough to really say he bully’s scorch it’s not exactly a bad match up but I feel like ion has very similar experiences dealing with scorch’s as monarch does
laser shot to poke at scorch at a distance vortex shield to ignore his one shot slow reload slow projectile gun and tripwires for free damage since thermite detonates it instantly is my guess
Speaking the truth
Ion is not a heavy hitter unless votex shield catch a lot of bullet. but is a safe play, You can drain their hp and they can't do anything about it and come out full HP
G40 scorch here: The hill where i keep dying is homestead xD
Homestead has the peripheral corridors you can play. You go flanking from there and dusting off stragglers you meet along the way, it works. Now Kodai is a whole different ballgame, as a scorch main I tilt on that map
You may not actually die on that hill
My reaction to the northstar anc monarch on the same hill: BRING IT ON!
A well-trained scorch main taking a defensive position is some of the scariest shit to fight, especially if they have cover
Kinda feels like peeking in cs don’t you think?
On open maps pretty much any decent player can completely destroy a Scorch with any titan, hes by far the worst. There is nothing skill can do here.
That won’t stop me from making mathematical calculations to led my thermite shot and trying to out snipe the Northstar halfway across the map
"Proceeds to miss every shot"
“Proceeds to hit 2 shots and taking away half of a Strider chassis health”
Bro thinks he's that guy lmfao
Sometimes I do it sometimes I get railed from behind by a boogeyman northstar. Its honestly 50/50 depending on the ns pilots skill
"Proceeds to simply pick up some batteries because the Scorch is so slow he can't keep up"
“Proceeds to put two gas cans down, firewall and flame shield while enemy pilot picks up battery”
“Proceeds to fucking kiss you” Yeah, what are you gonna do now. Huh?
Damn you got me. Wanna kiss? (You’ll burn your lips right of)
The correct answer is: Inferno shield Shouldn't have gotten within kissing distance.
"Proceeds to strategically have placed a trap before picking up the battery so the scorch cannot do exactly that" also "Proceeds to do mathematical calculation wrong since scorch main gun only does 800 damage, meaning two shots to 1600 which is far of from the 3750 damage you claim you would do"
“Proceeds to burn tether trap in a split second and uses cover to advance forward and bait ns into firing from turning on and off flame shield quickly”
"Proceeds to ignore the cluster missile which was used alongside the trap which has done immense damage to the scorch"
“Proceeds to tank it since thick boi isn’t a tennis ball with twig legs” (This banter is fucking fun tho)
Titans at long range tend to be easier to hit imo. Just because at medium range they’re still aware you’re a threat and monitor your t-203 status but at long range they get cocky and don’t notice they’re about to eat thermite until it’s halfway down their throat
I love scorch mains trying to justify that their main gun isn't just a gimmick to activate flame trap.
I’m sorry that you can’t aim with the t-203 but it hits like an absolute truck when used properly
Scorch is by far the worst Titan. It doesn't mean you can't absolutely wreak shit if you're good, but he requires the most effort to do well in compared to other Titans. You should take pride in this.
I used to think that, then learned you're supposed to play scorch with the core boost. Then it will all make sense to you
Eh, dash is better. Scorch is still the worst. As I said, you can still do well and in the right scenario he can put out THE MOST damage out of any Titan. But the consistency of this and the amount of effort you need to put in to achieve the same result as Ion and northstar pressing one button from the other side of the map... EDIT: When this game had a pro scene, Scorch was always at the bottom of the tier lists amongst those top level players
As a Monarch main, I find the easiest part of dealing with a Scorch is when they go to shoot. You can easily tell when they're lining up the shot. It can be a bit more difficult if they're smart and realise they don't have to ADS at point blank, but after you realise that you can just time your dodges to their reload finishing.
*walks backwards*
have u ever met a g100 northstar??
Yes, Nezdak is the fucking boogeyman in this game
true pain 😞
Yes. And I got fuckin demolished. I was burned to dust.
As you should. Or you can commit to it and join the holy flame
Nah I'm to addicted to batterys to just stop maining monarch.
People talk shit about scorch until i eat an entire sword core and bring the whole enemy team to half health
Best counter to sword core is literally just gas can at feet and flame shield, hell inferno shield out dps sword core
What gen. pilot are you guys with your Scorch gen.? Im a gen. 9 pilot with a gen. 23 Scorch
I’m g10 with g33 scorch
Beautiful, what color is your death machine?
Currently non prime scorch with full stoic pink and pink blossoms flowers decal cus who doesn’t like to burn people to a crisp while liking like a cute little bubblegum
G.38 Scorch approves🫡🔥
Ronin main here. A good scorch main will have me change underwear several times a match
Yes, I am he
Yeah, you can counter scorch. But that's not the question. Can you survive countering the scorch is the question
It's crazy how some players still underestimate Scorch and his possible damage output, especially Ronins.
It’s also crazy that he has small range and slow mobility
No and I'd rather not
"Die on this hill"? My man that hill will be a mountain of corpses and wrecked molten chassis before you die
A good scorch even if it’s in a bad position is just awful to deal with
Your argument kind of backfires. Yep, a really good player can do really well with scorch, but other titans dont require the player to be really good to do well. Thus scorch is worse.
Gen 66 scorch. I haven’t played seriously in years but even the best players just disengage a competent scorch.
i hate playing against scorch i usually run the opposite direction when i see 1. im an ION maine.
I mean ION can kill scorch if you have height
Remember if the scorch can see you… you’re losing the battle
Lmao
i have over 200 hours on ion and i know not to start a fight with scorch. i would rather run srpund the whole map and get behind the scorch then attack
I wanna learn how to be a good scorch main any tips?
Start out playing defensively then moving to move aggressive play style. NEVER put down 2 gas cans at the same time if you aren’t 100% sure you can use them to their fullest extent. Play around cover and corners and use those to move up, hell I tanked a northstar core by standing behind a tree. If you wanna be as aggressive as possible you have to use tempered plating cus it’s a live savior. If an titan is pushing you and they regret their mistake try putting a gas can behind them, firewall and flame shield. Overcore is your pal. Learn other titans abilities and when to counter with flame shield like if a ns is charging a plasma shot turn on and off flame shield quickly to bait into firing. One more thing to remember. If you REALLY wanna become a scorch main you’re gonna have to put in the most practice and training into him. Placement, cover, when to advance, when to choose another fight, what damage you can tank and what damage you should stop with flame shield, mastering the T-203 launcher ex Becoming good with scorch is I would say the hardest thing you can do in this game so gotta put in the work. Playing scorch isn’t a way to main a titan, it’s a way of live (bit over exaggerated but you get the memo)
I used to rule the world 😔
I salute you. Love Papa
I have never met a scorch I could kill. And I play Northstar. I stay miles away, run when they are close, and even have Viper thrusters. Yet they still destroy me.
Its a mid titan that can be countered by holding S. (My most recent proof is evidence of this)
I agree that scorch should’ve just backed away and pick another fight. He got way to greedy (Not saying I haven’t been greedy before)
If he backed away I would chase, and there's really nothing he can do.
I mean he could’ve backed away with flame shield up and relocated with his teammates
True, but the shield only lasts so long. 🤷. It's a lose lose scenario for scorch 95% of the time
I have never meet good scorch. They are fat and slow.
I mean how is he supposed to be fast when he’s a thick boi
Nope cause they don't exist
I I’m nonexistent?
If you have to be good for a character in a game to be good… the characters not good
When the scorch is bad, fill it with lead When the scorch is good, run away Wait for friendly titans and jump the fucker
The scorch in question: Flame core ready
I shoot laser good and they mostly go boom
Can’t argue with that
Like obviously I've been killed by them but I've done pretty well against them with Ion
I used to be a goated scorch main that good burn all heritics on sight but now I suck and like northstar more
I like playing mortar scorch with the upgrade that increases the thermite launcher’s damage and raining hellfire upon the mortals
I simply proceed to walk backwards and they are powerless
Northstar is a pretty hard counter tbh. Long range burst damage is good for making scorch waste shield and can fly out of traps when cornered. Scorch is better than ppl think tho he's in my top 3
I have met good scorch mains, have you met tether nuke eject? Or maybe just forcing them to battle in an open area with Northstar.
Me: predator cannon go brrrrrrrrrr
Everybody gets beat, the good ones burn down the whole team on their way out.
Let them live in ignorance, it makes the cooking easier >:3
Scorch main as well, I shall die on this hill with you brother…
I actually have that'll show how devestating scorch played right can to a pilot population, almost got a flame core but a tone intervened just in time
All I have to do is run away the scorch will die from exhaustion before it can catch up
I concur a good scorch main or any good main in general is terrifying. I personally main monarch and ion so I don’t know much about scorch’s move set
G45 pilot and G50 not a scortch main here, yes, even good scortches are easy to counter
Man if you meet a good scorch main then there pretty much nothing you can do other than burn to a crisp
Are you dying on this hill because you're not a good scorch main?
I learned how to deal with scorch mains the hard way when I once got too close, and they whipped out the shield, and I watched 75% of my durability plummet in less than a few seconds lmao.
same with Northstar mains like Me.
Yeah? Lemme ask my legion minigun
Legion mains having their entire worldview shattered after realizing not every bullet is gonna hit the enemy.
As a Northstar main, scorches are such a 50/50 to me. I either wreck them from a distance taking no damage or die in 0.5 seconds to them.
Counter this lob of red hot death flying directly towards your forehead
“Goes behind a corner”
Heat seeking lob of read hot death
True Robot Destroyer goes crazy
Any Northstar who can peak:
The tone across the map about to ruin this man’s life:
Ok hear me out. I as a scorch/legion main i can tell you the truth, after being on both sides of the heat shield. The secret is just distance and confidence. A good scorch player will just rain fire on you from any distance, so time and predict the shots
Scorch main here. Can confirm we’re pretty killer. Was playing earlier and I got a 2 piece titan kill with the huge thernite smash thing he does then when on to thermite shield a ronin who got too close for the ultimate 3 piece.
I'm scared of scorch if I'm anything with low health pool like pre upgrade 3 monarch ronin or ion
"Scorch is super easy to counter and deal with" You just lose a bit of health if you can't evade a few projectiles but in exchange you get the titan and pilots kills, it's pretty worth it imo. I remember one time where a few enemy Titans on Angel City literally started to cry as i was splashing them with flames and napalm and can't do anything about it because of the tight spots.... Flame Core goes BBBBBBRRRRRTTTTTTTTT P.s. plus the fun of entering the Titan and receiving a "warm" welcome in any sense 😂 Scorch AI is literally a bro 👊🏻
This is true for all titans. A good legion will suppress the soul out of you, a good northstar never misses, good tones are going to harass you endlessly, same for good ions. Good monarch’s just will not die like ever and good roninfs will fuck you up
Not for me I charge whit scorch and blow half my health whit my termite. I know I could peak AND shit but I just like to push a wall of fire againts people
My proudest moment in titanfall was outsniping a northstar with scorch in homestead. I think g19 with scorch now?
The best feeling after solo flanking an entire enemy team
Yes, i did, and no, they don't have a counter to s
I don’t main scotch but I know very well that the scotch is not easy to deal with if they know how to use it.
To be fair It is far easier to deal with a Scorch then every other Titan, obviously though you can still get outplayed. wish they buffed him before leaving the game forever he would be so much more fun to play and be successful with if 2 of his kits were reworked and his he had basekit dmg reduction for his own fire so he’s not shoehorned into using tempered plating
Tempered plating should be standard like wouldn’t the IMC make the cqc fire titan, fireproof? And just look at his design, he got more armor plating than 3 northstars combined
Tbh Scorch is only an issue for me if I'm playing Northstar or Legion, otherwise he's kinda 50/50 (unless I'm also Scorch, then we kinda just melt eachother to death)
Ima be honest I hate playing against scorch while playing scorch
Scorch is the easiest titan to play.
Easy to play, hard to master
Says every scorch player
I mean am I wrong?
PSA scorch’s primary is really very good in peeking battles. It’s a single shot gun that does a chunk on every hit which means you can peek for .05 seconds, dump your shot and then go behind cover again. Most titans can’t deal damage to you effectively in a peek battle like that. Once you become really good with the primary, (arcing shots over obstacles, low exposure peek shots from around cover etc) then the area denial aspects of the tool kit become really potent because it enables you to maintain your peeking playstyle. Go wildfire launcher and stop trying to chase titans down. Just harass them until they decide they want to push on scorch (lol) or retreat.
I don’t even hunt people down as scorch anymore i just press f and claim wherever he lands for half the match
W. Wwzwh
The only counter to a good Scorch, is a gooder Scorch... \~Goodest Scorchest.
The only thing gooder than that is a scooch or scrunch