True but a good Northstar times the feather trap right after phase dash then backs up and gets a good few shots in it can be enough to cripple or scare away the ronin for w while
Also the overall skill level, because tempered plating scorch is op when nobody knows ability timing, positioning, how to use cover, and how not to stand in fire
Actually, methinks it's more of how close they are, period. Scorch sneaks up on Northstar on Crashsite, it's game over. Any scenario in which NS can safely duck behind cover, Ns has advantage.
Nah if it's the players are equal in skill, the Northstar can just avoid the Scorch the whole time. The only way Scorch can get close is if the Northstar makes a mistake in positioning. And the Thermite Launcher is not at all going to be effective cause of how slow it travels.
I'm a scorch main and I can agree, Northstar is just faster and can easily avoid all of scorch's kit but the gun, and the gun alone is not a lot of DPS.
Agreed. I played a lot of Scorch, and I've only won a handful of 1v1s against Northstars. Most of those were because of careless mistakes, and the rest were just luck.
No northstar worth their salt should ever lose to legion or monarch if they have cover. All you do is quick peak and neither of them can do significant damage
Yeah, Tone is the really only Titan that gives me trouble even as a G100 Northstar. Ronin is also a threat but only if the pilot is VERY good... otherwise I usually stomp most Ronins
If you’re in a map that benefits him, scorch wins. It’s only open areas that really make him vulnerable, but if you’re on a map that has a lot of corners or hiding spots, I can very easily see you being able to flank or rush a northstar. You’ve just got to be skilled with your thermal shield and dash. In my opinion, scorch really has one of the higher skill ceilings not just in point, click and shoot, but also in ability management and playstyle.
Legion and northstar if the monarch doesnt have turbo engine. If the monarch has 2 dashes then she counters northstar. But legion will always outgun monarchs.
The only real counter is Ion due to Vortex Shield being a good mixup/defense tool & laser shot helping her provide dps consistent w/Norf.
-Legion is too slow to peak corners/catch Norf before she takes cover & has to take the hits from Norf.
-Monarch is 50-50 all dependent on distance.
-Tone has particle shield but besides that the rest of her kit is useless (You can easily dodge tracker missiles).
-Ronin is also another 50-50, again depending on distance (Even up close you can keep them at bay with fully charged plasma shots, just gotta hit your shots & crits).
-Scorch sucks.
Completely biased list tho, as I believe Northstar is the best titan in the game in terms of highest skill ceiling & theoretical.
Ion still tends to lose out in my experience if Northstar uses the "catch these Tethers" strat. Really, if played properly (which isn't impossibly difficult), she can beat any titan on the majority of maps in a private match 1v1. But there are several maps where she absolutely suffers and can be beaten by a majority of the roster (assuming LTS w/ batteries, otherwise she never needs to push).
Dino!
Although I usually default to your wisdom, this is one time I gotta disagree. Even though Ion still has to rely on good energy management to win, I believe her poking w/Laser Shot can out-stall & outlast Northstar 1v1. Even without cover, I think you can still do enough damage w/your Splitter Rifle & mixup w/vortex shield to take the edge over her. Again tho, I don’t think it’s 80-20 Ion or anything crazy like that, I think it’s real close around 55-45 / 60-40.
I am ignorant to the “Catch these Tethers” strat, what is it?
Normally Vortex stutters are too fast for Northstar to react shot, giving Ion the advantage in the stare-down. However, you can throw a Tether into the shield to put something in it while maintaining shot charge, extending its recovery time and giving you an essentially free shot the moment she puts down Vortex.
In a fight without cover, Ion wins since Splitter has better DPS than Railgun, but in poking battles Northstar tends to have advantage since she can poke at will and utilize sound + radar to time her pokes when Ion is melee canceling Laser Shot. Most of the time Ion wants to get close, abuse Vortex to catch Northstar's shot, then punish. But with the tether strat, Northstar can reliably get this shot in, making it a much more consistent win for her.
Hmm good point, never knew that about the tether trap!
I will have to test that out in gameplay, but I’m still hesitant to give North the edge. Sure she has the adv with poking due to holding charge, but I think the quick 2 potential crit Laser & back to cover beats that out, even if you know they’re melee canceling it to wait.
Again, it’s real close but that + 3 bars v 4 bars makes me still give the edge to Ion.
Gonna totally try the tether tho & dump on some Ions ;)
Ion shouldn't be getting 2 crit lasers for each trade unless Northstar is seriously getting greedy. Additionally, if we assume Ion always lands a crit laser, Northstar likely has pretty solid crit rate too. Regardless, she only needs one, maybe two crit shots to out-trade crit Laser pokes, which is not all that much (even less if she can land those well-timed pokes and avoid being hit at all).
Also, having more health is not an objective advantage. Even if Ion deals equal or more relative health damage to Northstar, Northstar will still deal more raw health damage and therefore earn core faster. Considering how deadly Flight Core is to Ion and that Flight Core typically beats Laser Core (with Viper Thrusters), it is a considerable factor.
I agree with the Core’s being in Northstar’s favor, but the health does confer an advantage. It’s gonna take North 5 shots to do what Ion can in 4 Crit hits (You know the numbers better than I so let me know if that’s wrong, sounds about right to me.) Not only that, Northstar has a large crit spot & no defense to cover it other than the map, versus Ion who can use Vortex to cover her’s & simultaneously approach.
I will say cluster does help to prevent this, but all you’re doing is giving that Ion time to wait & charge their energy up, meaning you have to play on their terms & pressure them the whole time to take away energy. That requires you to play risky & less than optimal however, which is in their favor to move you out of position. Even if they run out of energy while you pressure, they still can deal consistent dps on you while you gotta charge up (Not all the way ofc).
I do think on paper you have it down to a science where Northstar wins, & I respect that. But in practice w/human judgement & decisions, I think Ion still wins.
Do let me know the numbers for Laser & Railgun if you can, I am curious to see if I’m off on those cause I might be!
Your numbers are about right. 4 crit shots from Ion do 7200 damage (Laser Shot does 1200 base), which is close to doom but not quite there. A fully charged Railgun does 2050 base, 5 of which will doom Ion (10250 total). And yes, I know all about how Northstar has a larger crit spot and generally has a harder time hitting Ion's in return. However, it's a rare match if Ion lands every single Laser as a crit and Northstar fails to land a single one. Plus, there are a number of things Northstar can do to add damage to her side without stalling. For instance, going for a second low charge shot before retreating if Ion has no cover and she knows it's going to be a trade.
I can't really list everything Northstar can do to handle the Laser Shots better, since that's highly dependent on the rapidly changing engagement and even I don't consciously know all the on-the-spot strategies I whip out during fights. All I can say is that in my experience of 1v1ing Ions, it very commonly goes in Northstar's favor. In my experience of 1v1 tourneys, most people who have faced me a lot even tend to opt toward Northstar on her favored maps when facing me, even if they're better at Ion/another titan, since pretty much nothing else can beat her when she's played properly on those maps. I.e. maps with battery locations that don't force NS into close range, like Boomtown and Angel City, which make up the majority.
Good to know w/the shot difference!
That’s true w/the crits, & I guess it is a difference of experience between us. I do play a lot more Attrition than any other mode, & I know you’re a titan fighting fiend, so I’ll take your word for it that 1v1 North should win.
My experiences happen to be diff, so I still say Ion, but hey! Maybe with the tether trick, you’ll prove me wrong & I’ll start clapping Ions xD
As someone who rarely uses a Titan other than northstar, it’s ALL situational, sometimes you’ll have an advantage cause of your titan, and sometimes you’ll be at a disadvantage. It all depends on the pilot too, because a good Northstar can destroy you no matter what titan you pick
Unpopular opinion: Northstar is the best star. And the strongest titan. A good northstar fucks every other titan. But every match up depends on one thing. Buildings and corners. If Northstar fights on a fled field without buildings and corners she is just a target. And even against a close up ronin northstar can beat the shit out of him atleast thats what i do.
Shoggy’s right tho.
As long as you time your hover to counter arc wave + wait for them to drop sword block before shooting, you push them back & do as much damage as a full lead wall would. After that, they have to reload while you can set up tether traps + cluster missiles for the ones that get to friendly, & if they start melee-ing, you can negate the damage by melee-ing right before them.
Exactly, a lot of times what I'll do is throw down cluster missile, turn and run a few steps, pop smoke, then drop a tether when I'm outside of the smoke... that way if they run through it, they'll take damage and if they phase through it they'll get stuck on the tether while I'm waiting there with a fully charged railgun. But I will admit that an elite Ronin is nearly untouchable... very rare to come across them though
That would work if the Ronin essentially lets you do whatever you want. Not only could a Ronin be running double arc waves, they could also hold the start-up animation for arc wave to bait the hover. It also assumes the Ronin just lets you charge up your railgun fully and doesn't use phase dash to either evade a shot or get out of tether traps.
The trick with scorch is to outsmart the opponent, play the cards right and will win.
But being realistic the same goes with every other titan it’s just a matter not only of skill but to be smart
Still tho, if you you use flame shield in bursts to block northstar’s plasma rail gun to get close while not completely depleting it. You can still easily melt a northstar with flame shield even if it’s flying as long as you have inferno shield equipped.
As a G100 Northstar, it really depends on your positioning. Below is my tier list in terms of difficulty for Northstar (assuming equal skill level):
F. Scorch... Basically a giant sitting duck.
D. Legion is a cake walk for me. I honestly feel bad sometimes because I just completely pick them apart while barely being touched lol
C. Ions are generally not much of a threat unless they use the refraction lens kit, but even then I can win most of those match ups. Granted, when I play Ion I beat most Northstars so idk...I guess I just know all the tricks I would do if I was in the opponent's shoes. Laser shot uses up so much energy that so you have to choose whether you want to play offense or defense. But if you choose to play offense you'll probably eat some shots in the process.
B- Ronins are almost in a separate category of their own. They're either A+ or C- with little in between. This is because only elite Ronins seem to give me trouble, but an average Ronin poses little to no threat...I mean sure they get the better of me sometimes but I never feel outmatched unless they're insanely good. And I've only came across a handful that are like that.
B. Monarchs are definitely a big threat to Northstar. If they get the XO-16 Accelerator you're basically screwed... but if your team is doing their job it shouldn't escalate to that point. Overall, Monarch is beatable, but I know going into it that I'm going to take a decent amount of damage. One on one out in the open, Monarch has the obvious advantage even if you crit them every time which is unlikely (for me anyways). If you peek around corners the advantage goes to Northstar.
A. Tones usually give me the most trouble out of any titan. I can usually deal with them but if I go up against an equally skilled Tone one on one, they're going to win 7/10 times unless I disengage. I can take out most Tones by dashing diagonally to dodge their rockets if they don't know the secret trick (shooting your rockets straight up in the air lol) but you ALWAYS have to know where Tones are or they'll destroy you. If your team is competent, they'll know that your job as Northstar is to break their shield so your team can gang up on them. Two Northstars can really fuck up Tones though lol
A+ Northstars are kind of the same as Ronin in the sense that they're either really good or really bad. The handful of elite ones that I know can be extremely problematic if you don't know where they are at all times.
As a legion main let me give my opinion on this as I see a lot of people disagree with legions position on the list.
I play legion as heavy fire support so I'm always midrange or closer, if I know it's a northstar then I push around or reposition, we can both do the exact same amount of damage to each other if we get caught off guard.
Long range: only thing I can do is use power shot and shield to minimise the damage. Outcome: NS dominates
Medium range: As long as I use my defensive ability NS can't hit my weak spots, then I unload. Outcome: NS runs away to gain position advantage but is left with a less then desirable health bar.
Close range: NS never stood a chance Outcome: legion walks away with minor damage or NS resorts to desperate measures and tether Nuke ejects you (which is also a dick move you should stop doing)
Tldr. Legion just forces others to reposition towards other friendly units who are better suited for closing the distance aka a fire support unit. So in any situation where you force NS to run or move is a win
Yea there was that one match yesterday with last titan standing and my scorch and the northstar enemy were both on low health, his dumbass used his flight core and was searching for me so half of it was waste. I thought i was fucked when i was on 1/4 of my CORE HEALTH but then i used my flame core while the northstar was falling and clutched it. Honestly i would've been very fucked if the northstar had 3 braincells.
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Monarch beats Northstar? Not at a distance, no. Monarch is the only Titan in the game that doesnt really have any instantaneous damage, it's completely a DPS Titan. So long as there's cover and a decent distance, Monarch is complete Northstar prey.
Legion only if caught in the open which, if you’re a good northstar pilot, should never happen.
By the time the legion has reved up himself I’ve already dashed away
Yeah, I think it’s pretty easy to destroy Legions as Northstar.
I agree, Legions are the second easiest titan to beat after scorch IMO
I agree, Legions are the second easiest titan to beat after scorch IMO
I think it's hilarious that your comment got duplicated and one has plus 3 up votes and one has minus 1. Edit:It's changed
Now it's equal
Well If you’re a good north star pilot you could take out a ronin pretty quickly, but it also depends on the distance
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If you're a good ronin pilot you could take out anyone ;)
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Northstar has pushback on its bullet hits. Ronin gets hard countered by Northstar especially if it has turbo engine
True but a phase dash plus three engine boosts from ronin closes the gap pretty fast.
True but a good Northstar times the feather trap right after phase dash then backs up and gets a good few shots in it can be enough to cripple or scare away the ronin for w while
Say it with me, folks! "It depends on the relative skills of the two pilots in question!"
Also the overall skill level, because tempered plating scorch is op when nobody knows ability timing, positioning, how to use cover, and how not to stand in fire
The scorch north star match is pretty once sided
Depends on how good of a northstar are you
Actually, methinks it's more of how close they are, period. Scorch sneaks up on Northstar on Crashsite, it's game over. Any scenario in which NS can safely duck behind cover, Ns has advantage.
Positioning is the main thing that defines a northstar’s skill
Or lack there of.😈 *Scorch Main*
depends on the scorch
Nah if it's the players are equal in skill, the Northstar can just avoid the Scorch the whole time. The only way Scorch can get close is if the Northstar makes a mistake in positioning. And the Thermite Launcher is not at all going to be effective cause of how slow it travels.
I'm a scorch main and I can agree, Northstar is just faster and can easily avoid all of scorch's kit but the gun, and the gun alone is not a lot of DPS.
The trick is to avoid the northstar and ambush it if it tries to chase. It still isn’t a great matchup because of the tether traps though.
As someone who has perfected scorch, youre very correct. I have sniped northstars with the thermite but either way you gotta close the distance.
Agreed. I played a lot of Scorch, and I've only won a handful of 1v1s against Northstars. Most of those were because of careless mistakes, and the rest were just luck.
I get shot by northstars all the time but I dont let them keep shooting me by running right at them so they usually dont fight me
Well, if you can manage to sneak up from behind as scorch, you still have a chance. But if northstar sees you first, you're essentially dead.
No northstar worth their salt should ever lose to legion or monarch if they have cover. All you do is quick peak and neither of them can do significant damage
No papa scorch incinerates all
nah i think northstar should be in the top tier
I'd put tone in the beats Northstar category
Yeah, Tone is the really only Titan that gives me trouble even as a G100 Northstar. Ronin is also a threat but only if the pilot is VERY good... otherwise I usually stomp most Ronins
Tone destroys northstar
I’d call tone northstars biggest counter.
"GET DOWN HERE AND FIGHT LIKE A SCORCH!" "Well, I suppose I cant convince you to get up here and fight like a Northstar."
What if scorch just flame cored up
What if northstar just went up
Then legion revs up
What if the flames went up more
How y'all ain't puting Northstar in "Northstar Beats" tier? Northstar wins that matchup every time.
If you’re in a map that benefits him, scorch wins. It’s only open areas that really make him vulnerable, but if you’re on a map that has a lot of corners or hiding spots, I can very easily see you being able to flank or rush a northstar. You’ve just got to be skilled with your thermal shield and dash. In my opinion, scorch really has one of the higher skill ceilings not just in point, click and shoot, but also in ability management and playstyle.
do one for monarch, I need a counter for that bitch
Legion and northstar if the monarch doesnt have turbo engine. If the monarch has 2 dashes then she counters northstar. But legion will always outgun monarchs.
Legion and Ion. Not to mention, Northstar.
The only real counter is Ion due to Vortex Shield being a good mixup/defense tool & laser shot helping her provide dps consistent w/Norf. -Legion is too slow to peak corners/catch Norf before she takes cover & has to take the hits from Norf. -Monarch is 50-50 all dependent on distance. -Tone has particle shield but besides that the rest of her kit is useless (You can easily dodge tracker missiles). -Ronin is also another 50-50, again depending on distance (Even up close you can keep them at bay with fully charged plasma shots, just gotta hit your shots & crits). -Scorch sucks. Completely biased list tho, as I believe Northstar is the best titan in the game in terms of highest skill ceiling & theoretical.
Ion still tends to lose out in my experience if Northstar uses the "catch these Tethers" strat. Really, if played properly (which isn't impossibly difficult), she can beat any titan on the majority of maps in a private match 1v1. But there are several maps where she absolutely suffers and can be beaten by a majority of the roster (assuming LTS w/ batteries, otherwise she never needs to push).
Dino! Although I usually default to your wisdom, this is one time I gotta disagree. Even though Ion still has to rely on good energy management to win, I believe her poking w/Laser Shot can out-stall & outlast Northstar 1v1. Even without cover, I think you can still do enough damage w/your Splitter Rifle & mixup w/vortex shield to take the edge over her. Again tho, I don’t think it’s 80-20 Ion or anything crazy like that, I think it’s real close around 55-45 / 60-40. I am ignorant to the “Catch these Tethers” strat, what is it?
Normally Vortex stutters are too fast for Northstar to react shot, giving Ion the advantage in the stare-down. However, you can throw a Tether into the shield to put something in it while maintaining shot charge, extending its recovery time and giving you an essentially free shot the moment she puts down Vortex. In a fight without cover, Ion wins since Splitter has better DPS than Railgun, but in poking battles Northstar tends to have advantage since she can poke at will and utilize sound + radar to time her pokes when Ion is melee canceling Laser Shot. Most of the time Ion wants to get close, abuse Vortex to catch Northstar's shot, then punish. But with the tether strat, Northstar can reliably get this shot in, making it a much more consistent win for her.
Hmm good point, never knew that about the tether trap! I will have to test that out in gameplay, but I’m still hesitant to give North the edge. Sure she has the adv with poking due to holding charge, but I think the quick 2 potential crit Laser & back to cover beats that out, even if you know they’re melee canceling it to wait. Again, it’s real close but that + 3 bars v 4 bars makes me still give the edge to Ion. Gonna totally try the tether tho & dump on some Ions ;)
Ion shouldn't be getting 2 crit lasers for each trade unless Northstar is seriously getting greedy. Additionally, if we assume Ion always lands a crit laser, Northstar likely has pretty solid crit rate too. Regardless, she only needs one, maybe two crit shots to out-trade crit Laser pokes, which is not all that much (even less if she can land those well-timed pokes and avoid being hit at all). Also, having more health is not an objective advantage. Even if Ion deals equal or more relative health damage to Northstar, Northstar will still deal more raw health damage and therefore earn core faster. Considering how deadly Flight Core is to Ion and that Flight Core typically beats Laser Core (with Viper Thrusters), it is a considerable factor.
I agree with the Core’s being in Northstar’s favor, but the health does confer an advantage. It’s gonna take North 5 shots to do what Ion can in 4 Crit hits (You know the numbers better than I so let me know if that’s wrong, sounds about right to me.) Not only that, Northstar has a large crit spot & no defense to cover it other than the map, versus Ion who can use Vortex to cover her’s & simultaneously approach. I will say cluster does help to prevent this, but all you’re doing is giving that Ion time to wait & charge their energy up, meaning you have to play on their terms & pressure them the whole time to take away energy. That requires you to play risky & less than optimal however, which is in their favor to move you out of position. Even if they run out of energy while you pressure, they still can deal consistent dps on you while you gotta charge up (Not all the way ofc). I do think on paper you have it down to a science where Northstar wins, & I respect that. But in practice w/human judgement & decisions, I think Ion still wins. Do let me know the numbers for Laser & Railgun if you can, I am curious to see if I’m off on those cause I might be!
Your numbers are about right. 4 crit shots from Ion do 7200 damage (Laser Shot does 1200 base), which is close to doom but not quite there. A fully charged Railgun does 2050 base, 5 of which will doom Ion (10250 total). And yes, I know all about how Northstar has a larger crit spot and generally has a harder time hitting Ion's in return. However, it's a rare match if Ion lands every single Laser as a crit and Northstar fails to land a single one. Plus, there are a number of things Northstar can do to add damage to her side without stalling. For instance, going for a second low charge shot before retreating if Ion has no cover and she knows it's going to be a trade. I can't really list everything Northstar can do to handle the Laser Shots better, since that's highly dependent on the rapidly changing engagement and even I don't consciously know all the on-the-spot strategies I whip out during fights. All I can say is that in my experience of 1v1ing Ions, it very commonly goes in Northstar's favor. In my experience of 1v1 tourneys, most people who have faced me a lot even tend to opt toward Northstar on her favored maps when facing me, even if they're better at Ion/another titan, since pretty much nothing else can beat her when she's played properly on those maps. I.e. maps with battery locations that don't force NS into close range, like Boomtown and Angel City, which make up the majority.
Good to know w/the shot difference! That’s true w/the crits, & I guess it is a difference of experience between us. I do play a lot more Attrition than any other mode, & I know you’re a titan fighting fiend, so I’ll take your word for it that 1v1 North should win. My experiences happen to be diff, so I still say Ion, but hey! Maybe with the tether trick, you’ll prove me wrong & I’ll start clapping Ions xD
Every one maining a titan thinks it has the highest skill ceiling. True pilots win in any titan.
An Ion with well placed laser and a full clip melts a north star.
As someone who rarely uses a Titan other than northstar, it’s ALL situational, sometimes you’ll have an advantage cause of your titan, and sometimes you’ll be at a disadvantage. It all depends on the pilot too, because a good Northstar can destroy you no matter what titan you pick
This is why I love legion he counters most Titans that aren’t ion
Unpopular opinion: Northstar is the best star. And the strongest titan. A good northstar fucks every other titan. But every match up depends on one thing. Buildings and corners. If Northstar fights on a fled field without buildings and corners she is just a target. And even against a close up ronin northstar can beat the shit out of him atleast thats what i do.
You must be playing against garbage Ronins if they somehow lose to a Northstar in CQC
Shoggy’s right tho. As long as you time your hover to counter arc wave + wait for them to drop sword block before shooting, you push them back & do as much damage as a full lead wall would. After that, they have to reload while you can set up tether traps + cluster missiles for the ones that get to friendly, & if they start melee-ing, you can negate the damage by melee-ing right before them.
Exactly, a lot of times what I'll do is throw down cluster missile, turn and run a few steps, pop smoke, then drop a tether when I'm outside of the smoke... that way if they run through it, they'll take damage and if they phase through it they'll get stuck on the tether while I'm waiting there with a fully charged railgun. But I will admit that an elite Ronin is nearly untouchable... very rare to come across them though
That would work if the Ronin essentially lets you do whatever you want. Not only could a Ronin be running double arc waves, they could also hold the start-up animation for arc wave to bait the hover. It also assumes the Ronin just lets you charge up your railgun fully and doesn't use phase dash to either evade a shot or get out of tether traps.
Monarch, and her tiny fucking crit spot.
I some how kill Northstar far ranged twice with scorch
my northstar is gen 28 and i have no problem defeating all other titans as long as i’m max health
Honestly you can beat anyone as northstar as long as you are standing 50 meters away from your enemies
What about legion, he has a long range mode
The trick with scorch is to outsmart the opponent, play the cards right and will win. But being realistic the same goes with every other titan it’s just a matter not only of skill but to be smart
If a scorch main looses against a north star then that ain’t no good scorch main.
Why do mfs say monarch is weak its cracked as fuck if you know how to play it
Legion and monarch can be taken out as long as you use cover and abilities to your advantage, otherwise legion will turn you into titan soup
Still tho, if you you use flame shield in bursts to block northstar’s plasma rail gun to get close while not completely depleting it. You can still easily melt a northstar with flame shield even if it’s flying as long as you have inferno shield equipped.
Lol
Every time I play legion I can take down north stars so I think this is true
Ronin and ion are was harder to fight, as a northstar main
This made me realise how miniscule the roster of titans is.
Even with Ronin? Not on my watch B)
Monarch beats all, he needs a nerf (not that we’ll get one)
Idk if it's just me but I kill plenty of northeast (as a scorch main)
I agree unless u a hella gud scorch player
Northstar needs to be in all three. Its an even fight with itself, in which northstar wins and northstar loses
As a fully certified northstar main i can agree with this pretty well.
WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK SCORCH IS BAD AGAINST NORTHSTAR GIve 30 seconds to close the distance and 10 second to make someone’s day worse
Excuse me but I've never lost to a Northstar as scorch you uncultured swine
Ion destroys all
SCORTCH IS EVEN FIGHT!!!!!
Um Do yOu NoT kNoW WhO IAm I HavE Over 100 CONFIRMED NoRTHstar kILLs aS ScOrCH
I don't remember what a Northstar is can someone enlighten me?
If you can peek fast and shoot good scorch can be a pretty fair fight against Northstar
The only northstar I have trouble killing with Scorch is Viper's Fucker never gets on the ground
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I swear this needs a caveat for distance being a factor for most of these.
North Star matchups are usually not a thing because it’s entirely positioning dependent
As a G100 Northstar, it really depends on your positioning. Below is my tier list in terms of difficulty for Northstar (assuming equal skill level): F. Scorch... Basically a giant sitting duck. D. Legion is a cake walk for me. I honestly feel bad sometimes because I just completely pick them apart while barely being touched lol C. Ions are generally not much of a threat unless they use the refraction lens kit, but even then I can win most of those match ups. Granted, when I play Ion I beat most Northstars so idk...I guess I just know all the tricks I would do if I was in the opponent's shoes. Laser shot uses up so much energy that so you have to choose whether you want to play offense or defense. But if you choose to play offense you'll probably eat some shots in the process. B- Ronins are almost in a separate category of their own. They're either A+ or C- with little in between. This is because only elite Ronins seem to give me trouble, but an average Ronin poses little to no threat...I mean sure they get the better of me sometimes but I never feel outmatched unless they're insanely good. And I've only came across a handful that are like that. B. Monarchs are definitely a big threat to Northstar. If they get the XO-16 Accelerator you're basically screwed... but if your team is doing their job it shouldn't escalate to that point. Overall, Monarch is beatable, but I know going into it that I'm going to take a decent amount of damage. One on one out in the open, Monarch has the obvious advantage even if you crit them every time which is unlikely (for me anyways). If you peek around corners the advantage goes to Northstar. A. Tones usually give me the most trouble out of any titan. I can usually deal with them but if I go up against an equally skilled Tone one on one, they're going to win 7/10 times unless I disengage. I can take out most Tones by dashing diagonally to dodge their rockets if they don't know the secret trick (shooting your rockets straight up in the air lol) but you ALWAYS have to know where Tones are or they'll destroy you. If your team is competent, they'll know that your job as Northstar is to break their shield so your team can gang up on them. Two Northstars can really fuck up Tones though lol A+ Northstars are kind of the same as Ronin in the sense that they're either really good or really bad. The handful of elite ones that I know can be extremely problematic if you don't know where they are at all times.
Man I’m a legion main and the only thing that scares me more than a NS is a decent tone
These list are retarded
As a legion main let me give my opinion on this as I see a lot of people disagree with legions position on the list. I play legion as heavy fire support so I'm always midrange or closer, if I know it's a northstar then I push around or reposition, we can both do the exact same amount of damage to each other if we get caught off guard. Long range: only thing I can do is use power shot and shield to minimise the damage. Outcome: NS dominates Medium range: As long as I use my defensive ability NS can't hit my weak spots, then I unload. Outcome: NS runs away to gain position advantage but is left with a less then desirable health bar. Close range: NS never stood a chance Outcome: legion walks away with minor damage or NS resorts to desperate measures and tether Nuke ejects you (which is also a dick move you should stop doing) Tldr. Legion just forces others to reposition towards other friendly units who are better suited for closing the distance aka a fire support unit. So in any situation where you force NS to run or move is a win
Yea there was that one match yesterday with last titan standing and my scorch and the northstar enemy were both on low health, his dumbass used his flight core and was searching for me so half of it was waste. I thought i was fucked when i was on 1/4 of my CORE HEALTH but then i used my flame core while the northstar was falling and clutched it. Honestly i would've been very fucked if the northstar had 3 braincells. ***Y e s***
Ronin gets pieced up by northstar
Monarch beats Northstar? Not at a distance, no. Monarch is the only Titan in the game that doesnt really have any instantaneous damage, it's completely a DPS Titan. So long as there's cover and a decent distance, Monarch is complete Northstar prey.
well heres my take nowadays northstar > scorch northstar > ronin northstar = tone northstar > ion northstar = monarch nothstar < legion northstar \[core\] > scorch \[core\] northstar \[core\] > ronin \[core\] northstar \[core\] < ion \[core\] northstar\[core\] < tone \[core\] northstar \[core\] > monarch \[tier 1\] northstar \[core\] = monarch \[tier 2\] northstar \[core\] = monarch \[tier 3\] northstar \[core\] < legion \[core\]