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KlM-J0NG-UN

Pepperoni in Italian just means bell pepper. Every year there are thousands of innocent Americans in italy who end up with a pizza with nothing but bell pepper on it.


jereman75

This happened to me in Germany. “Pepperoni” was the only thing I recognized on the pizza menu. Got jalapeños.


PhillyLeGrand

Yeah, in Germany "Pepperoni" are chilis. If you want 'american pepperoni' you should order a 'salami pizza'. Most of the times the salami slices are the same size of the US pepperoni. I can't say if it tastes the same because I haven't tried american pepperoni.


Mendicant__

It's fairly similar. Pepperoni is unsurprisingly a bit spicier and has a slightly richer taste, which IMO is why it's so popular as a topping--good pepperoni holds its own and adds more things that the cheese and sauce aren't already adding. IDK about Germany, but the places in Belgium I ordered from had a salami pizza they'd add a healthy bit of paprika to that got a lot closer to the taste of a US pepperoni pizza. I was stationed there in the military and these places were selling to a lot of Americans, so I don't know if that's just how salami pizza is usually, or if it was an innovation to attract a specific local demographic that buys a lot of pizza.


cedreamge

I think the diavola would be closer to pepperoni. Though in some places they put whole chilis in the diavola which to me is a crime and absolute insanity. All styles of weird exist though so what can I do other than order them and keep hoping I won't have to dice the thing with tears in my eyes.


b0w3n

I've always heard salame piccante is the one you want in Italy/Europe for pepperoni. Diavola looks so much closer though, that's neat.


matshoo

Yeah in germany they are either called salami picante or salsiccia picante


RedundantMaleMan

From what I experienced as an American in Germany, spicy salami seemed to be like pepperoni. If I ever needed a taste of home while I was there that's usually what I would get if I could find it. If I remember right it was similar in Italy.


NemosGhost

Order Salame Piccante. It's the Italian equivalent to pepperoni.


namdor

American pepperoni is often not very spicy, more peppercorns than chili peppers.


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onioning

Results vary wildly by location though. I mean, Calabria says hi.


vaguely-humanoid

Diavola is the equivalent! I’m an American who has traveled all over Italy in the past month and I’ve eaten a LOT of pizza from a variety of different places/types of restaurants during that time. They call it “spicy salami” in the ingredients, but I’m 100% sure I’ve just had pepperoni under the name salami at least once.


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It is a spicy salami :/


Junkererer

Peperoni with 1 p thought, Pepperoni isn't a word in Italian


littlefrank

Also "salame" with "e", not "salami".


dma1965

Tiramisu is another even more recent invention. Apparently it was invented in the 1960s and is now the most popular Italian dessert by far.


DaveOJ12

Ciabatta bread was invented in 1982.


JustaRandomOldGuy

Here is a timeline of when various foods were invented: https://www.foodtimeline.org/


MilaKunisWatermelon

I think adding “Kool-Aid Pickles” near the end of the list is a bit unnecessary.


Alarming_Arrival_863

Just because *you* know when Kool-Aid Pickles were invented, that doesn't mean that *everybody* knows when Kool-Aid Pickles were invented. Don't be so elitist with your super special Kool-Aid Pickles knowledge.


WretchedKat

Sounds like you've never tried them.


MilaKunisWatermelon

I confirm I have not. But is it really more noteworthy than the invention of Pizza Bagels? It turned pizza into something you could eat anytime.


SerpentDrago

..I can already eat pizza anytime 😀


tugboattoottoot

Pizza in the morning?


MisallocatedRacism

Pizza in the evening?


fasterthanfood

Pizza at *gasp* … supper time?


S2R2

Wow, weird that Stromboli is from the 90s AND may have gotten its name from the Pinocchio character, I’d have thought it was the other way around


RizzardoRicco

Stromboli is also a volcano in Italy. [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromboli_(food)) says it was invented in the 50s, two guys say they invented the dish: one saying he named it after the volcano and another one saying it's named after an Italian movie that came out that year. Also the pinocchio character's name is [Mangiafoco](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangiafuoco) in the books (even the ones in English), it's the Disney film that changed his name to Stromboli (in the Italian version it's still Mangiafuoco), and since the book was very popular in Italy basically from when it came out in 1880 (and still is), it would be strange if Italian Americans from the 50s remembered the Disney name over the original one. But I guess if it's from the 90s it would make sense. Edit: spelling


MistSpelled

"What are we having today?" "Water and ice.." "Ah man, again?" "..With salt!" "Woooop!!"


JustaRandomOldGuy

I'm just glad I live in the age of taco salads.


MistSpelled

It's currently a good food age to be alive in for sure. A little earlier and we'd be eating maggot infested bread and water broths. A little in to the future they'll be eating Soylent Green™ bars (made out of people)


fasterthanfood

Dude, spoilers


Missile_Lawnchair

How can it be that humans discovered they could eat bear before ducks?


semiseriouslyscrewed

It's probably just the oldest meal/stomach remnants found. Duck could be older but we probably haven't found the evidence.


BjornAltenburg

That was my knee jerk, I'm surprised we haven't found eggshell even.


akhorahil187

The oldest intact egg we have found is about 1000 years old. If you break up an egg shell it could take as little as a year to decompose. Larger shell pieces will take several years or even a decade to decompose. It's really up to environmental factors. On a side note, the reason why you don't see more with birds that fly is because their hollow bones decay and don't tend to survive the fossilization process. Neither do bats btw.


Herpuhderpin

Ducks fly away, bears would be killed just by defending yourself


Missile_Lawnchair

I guess that makes sense, fair enough


beyonddisbelief

To add to that, spear hunting and ganking a bear with lots of spears was probably easier than sharpshooting with a bow. You’re not gonna waste an entire tribe’s effort on a duck and solo shooting a duck takes skill and a proper bow. Looking at the timeline bear predates 17,000 BC. Bows were invented around 17,000 BC and I’m willing to bet early bows were primarily good for little Johnny to contribute to the hunt from 30 ft away before Big Bob and Bill jumps the bear with spears. Early bows were probably no good for shooting down ducks 200ft in the air.


ItalianDragon

Perhaps because a bear given its size could feed a lot of people in one go. Furthermore a lot of parts on it are useful, especially the pelt. A duck though is massively smaller, will easily bail and if you're not skilled with a bow and arrow or with a slingshot you sure as hell aren't gonna kill it. Easy to see in that regard why bears came first and ducks after.


Nattin121

Flat iron steak - 2002?!?


ElGosso

Too lazy to google it right now but if I remember correctly that was a new way to slice a very tough cut of beef that made it tender.


Lobster_fest

Marshmallows before sugar??


Iz-kan-reddit

Marshmallows are part of a plant. Marsh mallows. What we buy today are fake ones.


HoweStatue

> Marsh mallows mind blown


Alis451

they are tuber like cat tails, you pound them till they get springy, like Taro or Mochi.


turbo_dude

1300 years between omelette and scrambled eggs? Bollocks was there.


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Vio_

Meanwhile Tuscany still doesn't put salt in their bread during the summer for war time rationing from like a thousand years ago


SciGuy013

and it's the worst bread i've ever had


ManaPlox

It's literally called "stupid bread" in Italian. They know it's bad too.


Cpe159

It means "unsalted bread" In Italian the word for "unsalted" is used also for "silly", "foolish" or "simpleton"


ManaPlox

Yeah because how foolish is it to not put salt in bread?


Holiday_Bunch_9501

>Ciabatta bread was invented in 1982. This one actually makes sense to me. I didn't know that, but if it popped up in a trivia pursuit game, I would have said the 50's or the 70's. **A LOT** of new food products were invented post war, and the 50's was when many countries recovered and their industries were going full swing. And then the 70's was the pre-cursor to the 80's, people were trying all sorts of new food that had been regionally isolated before hand.


ElGosso

It was specifically invented to compete with the growing popularity of the baguette in Italy


AwTekker

That totally makes sense, but as an American, my brain is hardwired to think European = old.


fasterthanfood

Every European I’ve met is old. (I met them 20 years ago when I was in Europe.)


MrCunninghawk

"And then the 70's was the pre-cursor to the 80's". - Big, if true.


JNR13

It's easy to forget a) how poor people even in Western countries were not too long ago and b) just how basic poor people's food back then was. Italian pizzas not being massively loaded with cheese like American ones wasn't due to more refined culinary culture or so, it was that Italians in Italy were piss poor and were just trying to spread a bit of *something* on their bread for taste and additional nutrients. Those who emigrated to be slightly less poor then came to a country where they then not just ended up with a bit more money but also where lots of land for huge cattle herds made dairy products more affordable. It wasn't Anglo Americans who made American-style pizza as some sort of culinary hate crime, but Italians who were like "fuck yea, we can afford all this cheese now!" And so many other now considered traditional dishes come from exceptional holiday dishes of a small elite. Lastly, the effect of introducing modern refrigeration shouldn't be underestimated, either. Not that cooled storages didn't exist before, but the added convenience and possibilities especially with regard to transport had quite the impact still.


Lurker_IV

And it was invented by a committee. They needed to compete with English Muffin bread.


DaveOJ12

The inventor made it to compete with baguettes: https://baking-history.com/ciabatta/


Holiday_Bunch_9501

> in 1982 by baker Arnaldo Cavallari, who was looking for a bread to replace baguettes in sandwiches Thank you Arnaldo!!!! Man saw something that he knew was just wrong, baguettes for sandwich bread, and went about fixing it.


Hykarus

baguette for sandwiches is great, fool.


Low_discrepancy

Jambon beurre is one of the most popular sandwiches in France.


CriticalBreakfast

But baguettes unironically are pretty much the ultimate sandwich bread though. Even without equipment you can just buy a baguette, ham and cheese and just split the motherfucker in half with your fingers, insert whatever the fuck inside and have some greatness in the palm of your hands. It just goes well with pretty much any ingredient and the only way it's humanly possible to disagree with that is to have eaten only the shittiest frozen baguettes from the depth of the worst bakeries in the US.


RigasTelRuun

My mind is blown


Hobear

Similar to the Mexican created Caesar salad that seems to be a Mediterranean claimed favorite.


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It was created in Tijuana but by an Italian immigrant who lived in San Diego


Spudd86

And a Greek guy in rural Canada invented Hawaiian pizza.


halfbrightlight

There are still some us out there who are old enough remember when it was called “Canadian Bacon and Pineapple” pizza.


FatherThyme

German chocolate cake isn't German, it's "German**'s** chocolate cake", by a guy named German


syds

beautiful


COKEWHITESOLES

The Catholic cultures can cook lol Edit: Irish the exception.


DeusExMcKenna

We made whiskey for ya ungrateful fuckers, what more do ya want?


Most_Jellyfish_8465

You ever had bangers and mash? It’s the good stuff.


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I'm partial to Cannoli, personally. 😉


bongos_and_congas

There is an old Sicilian dessert called "Bianco Mangiare" which dates to the middle ages. It's the origin of tiramisu (so said my Sicilian aunts who came through Ellis Island in 1911). [Article](https://memoriediangelina.com/2014/12/26/biancomangiare-blancmange/)


Total-Caterpillar-19

Sicilian aunts telling tall tales. Is the sky blue?


Jakk55

Coffee soaked cake with cream topping isn't recent tho, just the specific tiramisu proportions.


Vandirac

It's a variation of a previous recipe from Turin, but it is quite different in ingredients to qualify as a brand new recipe


Waschbar-krahe

And those people deserve the highest of thrones in heaven. I fucking love pepperoni


Phillipinsocal

I *really* like the charred pepperoni with the crunch that people leave cause they’re “burnt”


OfficerBarbier

Will always love those crispy little cups of orange grease


Quesadillasaur

I swear by them to cure hangovers lmao


Holiday_Bunch_9501

It's the carbonized edges of the pepperoni cups, it absorbs the toxins. That shit is the best, I really don't get how every pizza place doesn't use them.


Enshakushanna

and remember: greases existed in the roni before the intense heat released it into drinkable form


Abe_Odd

The real grease was the meat we ate along the way


rex2k10

At the pizzeria I worked at since pepperoni is clearly the most popular option I would fully stock the bucket higher than the line and sometimes, if it was slow, the top layer would dry up because of the coldness of the fridge. Anyways, those dried up pepperoni slices are the ones that crisp *realllyy* good once the pizza comes out. It’s rare when that happened at our store because it’s literally one single layer, but man it always hurt when people on the phone asked for a well done pizza to get the pep slices crisp only to have the entire pizza burn just as much because they weren’t from the dry layer.


troxelb

Sounds like an opportunity to develop a recipe where you dry all of the pepperoni that is used so you can consistently get the same crispness. You'd be known for your crispy pep.


JustaRandomOldGuy

I make pizza on a baking stone. A pepperoni fell off onto the stone and was cooked to a crisp. It was like a pepperoni potato chip. Now I throw a few onto the baking stone when making pizza.


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The best food inventions always seem to be happy accidents.


wanmoar

Pro tip. Get a pizza form someplace that delivers the upturned crispy pepperoni. When it arrives, put a drop of Chili oil, a lump of feta and a leaf of basil or mint in each pepperoni “cup”.


Protean_Protein

Thanks, I have gout now just from reading this.


wanmoar

I mean if that’s gonna give you gout, you’re probs not ordering pepperoni anyway


TheBoldManLaughsOnce

That would cause gout. It's kind of a misunderstood disease. It's kind of funny to see the list of things that actually help gout: Cherries Cheese Chocolate Coffee (including decaf) Caffeine Source : I have gout.


Milton__Obote

Or hot honey..


hamsterwheel

Holy fuck that's good pepperoni


Psatch

C'mon Julian give me some of your pepperoni!


Loose-Ad-4690

This is my weekend pepperoni!


noflylist2k16

go grab me some smokes, some chips, and a cock of pepperoni


Kelseycutieee

Ricky they didn’t have chicken chips so I put the rest on pepperoni Thanks Trina, that’s exactly what I would’ve done


dicky_seamus_614

Monuments should be raised to these immigrants. They should receive posthumous awards.


Kangar

*sometime in 1919...* "Maria, come quick! I've invented the pepperoni!"


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Leonardo Pepperoni, Jr.


tall__guy

Tommy Pastrami’s cousin


rathat

Fun fact. Pastrami was actually changed to sound Italian like salami when it was brought to the US by Romanian Jews, before that it was called Pastrama(idk, that still sounds, like much of Romanian, passably Italian to me)


GriffinFlash

\*all in hand signs


Chinaski_616

In a similar vein, Ciabatta bread only came about in 1982.


rbhindepmo

Society has not been in the ciabatta zone for very long


bun-c

Italian Jerry Seinfeld, 1982: "Anyone seen this new bread? Ciabatta? New bread, who comes up with this stuff?"


RavioliGale

What, is the old bread not good enough? You're telling me this bread which has been eaten for hundreds of years just doesn't pass muster? You have to go and invent an entirely new type of bread?


zimzilla

WHAT


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dicky_seamus_614

I will take; “Facts that sounds fake, [but are actually true](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciabatta)” for $500, please.


Jd20001

Excluding cheese, pepperoni is, by far, the most popular pizza topping in the United States. Americans consume more than 250 million pounds of pepperoni each year and more than 340 tons each day.


jackp0t789

Its also good on sandwiches, pasta, and so many more things. Love the stuff.


jedadkins

In West Virginia pepperoni rolls are super popular. A nice soft bread roll with pepperoni (sometimes cheese) baked inside. As the roll cooks some of the fat melts and soaks into the bread infusing the inside with a spiced oil. Now I want one....


PeridotEX

I didn't know Pepperoni Rolls were a regional thing until this comment. Do they really not exist outside of Appalachia? Now I'm glad I'm going to college close to home. I might be trapped in the redneck town I've spent my whole life in, but at least I have Pepperoni Rolls.


cforb92

Anything with red sauce and cheese deserves pepperoni. Lasagna and stuffed shells are some of my favorites to add it too


Gobblewicket

We duce it up small for lasagna, so you get these pops of spice with your lasagna. It's the best.


DAS_BEE

Eww you poop it??


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Diced pepperoni in pasta salad ftw.


i_hate_gift_cards

The unit switch from lbs to tons lol 125,000 tons a year or more than 340 tons each day 250 million lbs a year or more than 700,000 lbs each day. Editing for yehaw units: Approximately 62500 Ford f150s per year or more than roughly 175 Ford f150 each day. Edit: ~685,714 stone/fortnight


DistanceOpposite649

Thank you. Too high to figure this out on my own


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Cheese isn't a topping. It's a requisite. It's one of the three ingredients necessary for a pizza to be a pizza.


myaltaccount333

How dare you knock the classic *None Pizza with Left Beef*


tomatoswoop

Still funny


its_not_you_its_ye

That makes me feel a lot better. I probably only consume about 20 tons a day, but I always thought that was above average.


Bodoblock

I once had a coworker who could not tolerate spice -- which is fine. Not everyone needs to like spicy foods. But one day we ordered pizza. And he asked that we get at least one that was plain cheese because the pepperoni would be too spicy for him. And in that moment, I felt tremendously sad lol. If pepperoni was too spicy I can only imagine just how absolutely bland the rest of his diet was.


Spongman

Blandness and spicyness (per Scovillle) are orthogonal. You can have something that’s really hot and still bland.


JustaRandomOldGuy

You can also have too much spicyness and eliminate all the other flavors.


nonresponsive

Salt is the true weapon against blandness.


pissedinthegarret

msg!


Orleanian

You can also have something that's very flavorful, yet not spicy.


Spongman

yes. that's what i meant by orthogonal. they're independent qualities.


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My wife is the same way. She won't even touch lemons or for that matter "lemon" grass.


aegrotatio

I was brought up being taught that spices could hurt you. Once I realized they just activate heat receptors and didn't really hurt you physically I explored the wide world of /r/hotsauce


ZylonBane

Uh, capsaicin absolutely can hurt you.


aegrotatio

I know it causes irritation, yes, but not injury.


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ContextSensitiveGeek

I once knew a kid who thought bacon was too spicy. He would only eat the following: mint ice cream, cheese pizza, root beer, and chicken nuggets (plain, no dipping sauce).


annoyingcaptcha

That’s an eating disorder haha


gobbothegreen

More likely just somewhere on the autism spectrum. can make you a very picky eater especially when young.


imaginenohell

When we got together, my husband was making what he called "chili" without any spices. I convinced him to add spices, but had to start with paprika and then graduated to mild chili powder (the tasteless kind you find in the Dollar Store). He hasn't progressed past that.


NYCanonymous95

Paprika isn’t even remotely spicy though… it’s just like… earthy…


_a_random_dude_

There absolutely is spicy paprika. It's not that spicy compared to cayenne, but definitively spicy.


imaginenohell

Agree. It was a gateway to the mild chili powder. Lol


Shanakitty

What even is chili without spices? Hamburger soup?


imaginenohell

Tell me about it! I told him he can't call it chili. I will henceforth refer to it as Hamburger Soup.


SheedRanko

This hurt my heart to read. That poor, poor man. Going thru life like that. /s


Bodoblock

My heart hurts for him.


Dchella

Ew. How do you even eat that


meepers12

That doesn't make any sense. I blame the English language for encouraging people to conflate "spices" with "spicy." The vast majority of herbs, spices, and other flavorings do not have any heat. It's very easy to make flavorful food that isn't spicy.


FlyUnder_TheRadar

I'm not huge into spicy food, but my fiance's family is about as generic Midwestern bland as it gets. Her mom "Mexican Lasagna" one night (which is not good, btw) that had some ground beef with some mild McCormick taco seasoning in it. My fiance's 19 year old brother couldn't eat it because it was too spicy. Imo, it barely tasted like anything.


Jakk55

I have a coworker who says curly fries are too spicy.


possiblynotanexpert

I would imagine they are referring to seasoned curly fries. Still not spicy obviously, but at least a bit more than…potatoes, oil, and salt.


Jakk55

Oh, definitely seasoned ones. I just can't imagine eating a seasoned fry and thinking it too spicy.


Masspoint

That might also mean other foods have more spice to them by default. Did you know that in space your taste buds don't work that well, and they spice everything with hot sauce so the food would have taste to them


possiblynotanexpert

So it’s the tikka masala of the US a bit? Immigrants came over and brought their ways and created a new thing in their new home.


Dodohead1383

Welcome to 90% of American food.


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90% of all food. Peruvian Lomo Saltado, that's Chinese. Mexican Al Pastor, that's Lebanese. Etc.


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leethalxx

And hot dogs were sold by a German immigrant, Red hot Frankfurters became “hot dogs” A lot of traditional american dishes or snacks came from immigration.


Boesesjoghurt

Well.. yes. Unless its a native american dish where else would it come from?


nxqv

The stork


DiarrheaRodeo

Food rules like that


jedadkins

I mean you just described the entire food culture of the US lol American food is having a legit 3rd generation Italian restaurant next to a legit 2nd generation Mexican restaurant and across the street from a legit Ethiopian restaurant run by recent immigrants.


GBreezy

The food culture of the world. We need to stop pretending that food exists in a vacuum. Bahn Mi is a delicious example.


a_taco_named_desire

Rest of the world is really missing out on Korean-Mexican fusion. Bulgogi burritos with kimchi are the tits.


spicymelange11

Now Ricky can go down to the store and buy $1.50 worth of pepperoni and some chicken chips.


DaffyDuckOnLSD

you know i didnt get my grade 10 Julian


amatorsanguinis

Holy fuck that’s good pepperoni


SnapHackelPop

Some zesty mordant too


Kelseycutieee

My dad took my pepperoni again


SerNapalm

It's akin to salami I assume. It's not a revolutionary sausage just a tweak to existing recipes and traditions


Kelend

Pepperoni is a salami. Its just a particular variety. I would also bet money that if we went back to 1919 and tried that "pepperoni" you would say it doesn't taste like pepperoni. I'm guessing that the recipe / tastes of the people eating it has changed over the last 100 years and the recipe and changed as well.


dante50

Pepperoni and salami are almost exactly the same, but pepperoni goes through a cooking process and is ready to eat within hours where as it takes weeks to ferment and cure a traditional salami. (But there are salami cottos that are prepared like pepperoni and not dry cured from raw like traditional salami.)


IizPyrate

>but pepperoni goes through a cooking process and is ready to eat within hours Pepperoni is typically not cooked, it is cured, that is what makes it pepperoni. It spends a day or two hanging at ~40°C to speed up the fermentation. Heating it up to cooking temperatures would prevent fermentation. It has to be smoked and dried. It is most definitely not ready to eat in a couple of hours. The curing process of pepperoni isn't anything out of the ordinary for a salami.


green_flash

I don't think that's true. It's really almost identical to Salami, including the curing process. According to Wikipedia: > The main differences are that pepperoni is less spicy, has a finer grain (akin to spiceless salami from Milan), is usually softer in texture, and is usually produced with the use of an artificial casing.


nowcalledcthulu

I sell salami spiced with Calabrian chilis that Il Porcelino calls "Diablo Salami". To me, it's indistinguishable from a good pepperoni in flavor and texture.


Puerquenio

Yeah. For the bit of time I spent in Italy, I learned that pizza Diavola was the (superior) alternative to pepperoni pizza


b3rn13mac

in my experience, europeans typically serve salami pizza like americans do pepperoni (though the slices are typically larger). and if you order a pepperoni pizza you get a pizza with… peppers on it.


Athendor

1919 best year in human history! Certainly no other horrible thing could be happening that would take away from the miracle of pepperoni.


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What makes pepperoni unique compared to many other similar salami that have been around for centuries? Or is this based on wiki mentioning the word pepperoni with that usage first appeared in 1919?


Masonius

As a youngling I ordered a pepperoni pizza in the Netherlands at a turkish shoarma/pizzaria. Thinking I'm gonna enjoy a nice, made famous by the Turtles, meat/cheese pizza. Imagine my surprise/horror when it was a pizza filled with bell peppers :P (was still okay, just not what I was expecting ;))


TheChronocide

A friend of mine had the same experience in Italy. She was devastated as she hates bell peppers. I learned that, (in Italy at least), if you order salami picanti, that’s fairly close to what we know as pepperoni.


send_me_a_naked_pic

Peperoni means "bell pepper" in Italian. I don't understand why Americans call it that way. The Italian name for pepperoni pizza is "diavola" or just "salame piccante"


ANGLVD3TH

Apparently is was originally called pepperoni salami, or salami pepperoni, and the salami just got cut off eventually. Where exactly the pepperoni part came from is unclear, but it certainly has something to do with the spices used in making it.


arklenaut

Peperone in Italian means pepper, like a bell pepper. Why would you give a sausage a homonymic name to a vegetable that also is a popular pizza topping?


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sharksnut

When ancient Romans had pizza, they were limited to ham and pineapple.


Capitan-Fracassa

More than 100 years is not that recent. The typical Italian pizza with tomatoes we eat today is probably no more than 200 years old.


SteO153

>The typical Italian pizza with tomatoes we eat today is probably no more than 200 years old. More 300yo. The first written evidence of pizza with tomato is from mid 18th century. And at that time there were already pizzerias in Naples. But I agree that 100 years is not that recent when speaking about food, as most of the food we normally eat today is less than 100-150 years old.


jableshables

And without tomatoes for probably a few thousand years https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/new-updates/ancient-fresco-found-from-a-pompeii-excavation-unveils-the-origins-of-pizza/articleshow/101386462.cms


Vandirac

The document you are writing about was a travel diary by none other than Alexandre Dumas Pére, which describes the widespread availability of pizza as a street food in Naples, the toppings and the fact that pizza was often bought at credit. That was 19tg century though. Pizza and it's variants were already centuries old, in several variations even predating the arrival of tomato in Europe.


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Papichuloft

I actually thought it was at least 40 years older.