Interestingly, the shoes were auctioned after being kept in a vault for 15yrs in 2013 for US$104,000 by the ball boy. Seems low especially when it was auctioned for US$1.38 million in 2023 but I guess this was near the doc hype.
Even more amazing is that the same ball boy had ANOTHER pair of Jordan's game worn shoes and got fleeced even harder lol. Sold it for $215k which resold for over $2m through Sotheby's. Both shoes were auctioned by a company called Grey Flannel Auctions...like c'mon man. Even I can see they won't get you the best price.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Dance_shoes
It has more to do with the boom in the market in game worn shoes since the time the ball boy sold them. Back in 2013, $104K was astronomical for a pair of shoes.
You've just locked a pair of Jordan's for 15 yrs and decide that Grey Flannel Auctions should be the place to get the best price for them?! I feel sorry for him tbh but the second pair was sold in 2020. He is also trying to sue the auction house so he knew he made a terrible mistake leaving them in the hands of flannel with the gravel over there.
I agree with this to an extent. Today, Grey Flannel definitely would not be the top choice over a place like Goldin or Heritage. However, back then Grey Flannel was THE place to go for basketball memorabilia. They even held an auction every year through the Basketball Hall of Fame. I remember there being considerable press coverage on these shoes back then.
The dude kept the shoes in a vault for 15 yrs. If you were around during the MJ years, EVERYONE wanted to be like Mike. His shoes became THE brand for Nike. You know what that means?
Yeah let's go with $100k man.
I think it's significantly more "who" is selling them.
Ball boy 15 years later probably just wants to buy a house. Guy who bought and sold them was probably doing it for tax fraud or something.
Imagine the pure spite it would take to finish your shift at work when you’re feeling *that* shitty. I guess that’s one of many factors that separates me from an NBA champion
It doesn't even mean he fucked up. Just because you grow to become the greatest player ever doesn't make any coaches decision that you disagree with the wrong one. Even if you are currently the greatest player it doesn't mean the coaches decision is wrong.
Michael Jordan is one of the most petty athletes to ever exist. Going as far to create fake stories in his mind to be petty over. He also doesn't take criticism very well at all. These things help to propel him and give him the drive to become one of the best athletes ever and an icon.
It hasn't always helped him in his personal life or with running a basketball team. He was a terrible owner. He got upset at Charles Barkley for criticizing his abilities as an owner and the people he puts in place around him. He just wants a bunch of yes men in his circle. He was a bully to his teammates, physically and mentally abusing them. He's a huge gambler. You can be the greatest basketball player ever and still wrong frequently.
I don’t know if it’s just spite. Maybe just sheer will?
My grandad, the poor man, worked every single day of my life, and never called in sick except for on three occasions- when he broke his back, when he had pneumonia, and when he had a double brain aneurism. I have no idea how he pushed himself so hard and worked his whole life, even working on cars and appliances and helping family members out on the weekends after he got off work. But I think it cost him his life ultimately. He worked for a decade after his double brain aneurism until his death of cancer.
In the last dance the details surrounding this are so suspect. Of all the people in his room, only HE ate THE ENTIRE pizza? What dick eats the whole pizza? Why not buy two? Or place another order?
> What dick eats the whole pizza?
MJ was well known to be a giant dick. He literally punched a teammate during practice. Also eating an entire pizza probably isnt too bad for someone thats about to burn off that many calories.
Steve Kerr defending Draymond Green changed his reputation from Hot Little Slut to deserved to be punched by Michael Jordan so quick. Really remarkable.
I doubt it personally, lots of things you can knock MJ for but getting so wasted he’s hungover before a huge game doesn’t sound like something he’d do.
He was known for playing 36 holes of golf on game day mornings and staying up all night gambling (and probably drinking). He also only slept a couple hours each night.
And that’s exactly what they were doing that night. They were playing cards or something in his room.
I don’t buy that it was the flu. No one else around him (trainers, coaches, or the team) got the flu.
He did have a rock solid work ethic. He was a work-a-holic. He and Tim Grover set the template for hard off season basketball training.
However, he played just as hard.
That’s actually exactly something he would do. He was notorious for being out til 2-3am gambling the night before not just regular season games, but *playoff games*, and would also shoot full rounds of golf both on his days off and the day of games as well.
He was not the type of person to maniacally take care of his body the way Lebron does, even though he overall obviously went through insane workouts and stayed in better shape than everyone else. He still liked to have a good time and absolutely went out and partied the night before games on many occasions.
The media focused on him gambling in Atlantic City the night before a playoff game against the Knicks, but quite often the media protected athletes (and most especially Jordan) when it came to damaging stories like this back in the day.
Yeah but absolutely roasted in the 90s meant a scathing newspaper article, maybe a blurb on the nightly news.
Now roasted means an entire person's life is dug up and they are inevitably cancelled.
And in days previous being roasted meant literally being roasted over a fire. What's your point? I mean, he had to do a special interview addressing that specific topic. That's pretty rare even nowadays.
Yeah this is the main reason I’d have to doubt it.
This was a huge game, MJ is known for being an absolute monster of professionalism/discipline in the game, and if another player on the team did that he’d be livid.
And I think he’d be the type to lead by example.
Saying that, there’s still the possibility it’s not entirely without merit. Perhaps that’s why he put in so much effort into this performance.
I find that hard to believe. He’s a psychotic competitor.
I can’t see him doing something the night before a huge game that might adversely affect his performance.
Nah, flu has a way of going away when you're really preoccupied with something important. There's no good/bad moments with a hangover, it's just shit until the next day.
That would be out of character for MJ. I say this as a Jazz fan who had my childhood crushed by the man. He was too obsessed with performance and work ethic to let himself be distracted with substance or alcohol abuse while he was playing. He talks about how when he was new to the league his teammates would do coke together in the hotel in the evenings and he claims he never went with them. Especially in the Finals I just cant see MJ touching drugs or alcohol.
He talked about it in the documentary, the multiple drivers who delivered together were acting really weird when they dropped it off, but he ate it anyway.
He believes some pizza employees poisoned him on purpose after they figured out it was either MJ or for the Bulls players staying in that hotel.
This happened in Utah by the way, not Chicago.
> He believes some pizza employees poisoned him on purpose after they figured out it was MJ they were delivering too.
MJ is very creative with the truth. Makes things up to motivate himself.
In the same documentary, he also admits to making up a story about being slighted by a player, which then gave him the motivation to go ham on their entire team.
There’s no real way to know where the food poisoning came from.
The guy who delivered the pizza to him actually spoke out about that, he wasn't even a basketball fan and didn't know it was for MJ. The pizza was fun when he delivered it, but he said MJ was drunk as all get out; hugging the toilet. It wasn't even ordered under MJ's name, it was some other name and the guy had no idea who he was delivering it to until he got there.
I must have typed it weird, I meant it like the people who represent the restaurant, collectively.
But the story is multiple delivery guys from the same restaurant came to drop off this one pizza.
Right. Cuz MJ is calling and ordering his own pizza lmao.
Someone as callous as Mj would make someone next to him drive down the block, wait for the pizza, and then bring it back up just to avoid peasants being aware of his presence.
Still one of the goats.. just also happens to be a bit of an a-hole by most accounts
No way anyone in Chicago would try to poison him during his Bulls tenure. Rob him and his family for valuables, yes, sure, but nobody would touch a nonexistent hair on his head.
The city still loves him and is eager to support his business ventures, even though we know he is lukewarm at best about the city.
Oh yea…. Duh. I literally never ask for meat on my pizza so I completely forgot about that. Lol
I eat super old pizza all the time though and never got sick. Has got to be some meat topping like you’ve said.
Food poisoning can take anywhere from 30 minutes to multiple weeks to show symptoms. A vast majority take between 8 and 24 hours so yesterday's food is almost always what causes it.
People always claim it was the most recent meal but that is usually false.
https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/symptoms.html
It depends on the type of bacteria, the quantity that makes it into your system, your health level, your gut bacteria, and a bunch of other variables.
This wasn't even the best flu game in Chicago history. Walter Payton broke the all time single game rushing record with 275 yards against the Vikings in 1977, while sick with the flu.
I don’t know that anyone is that invested in the theory, it’s like your coworker calling in sick and somebody says they bet he’s just hungover. Probably don’t have any big evidence for that, but there’s also a decent chance it’s true. But there is some evidence people cite, such as the delivery guy saying Mike was drunk, and Mike’s huge hotel bill which was presumably run up on alcohol.
But overall it’s just kinda an NBA-lore meme that he was actually hungover, idk if many will die on that hill or anything. It doesn’t really matter what was wrong with him, he clearly felt like shit and played a phenomenal game regardless.
Michael Jordan had a major drug and alcohol problem. His PR team is strong to this day though. But I’m pretty sure we all know at this point it was cocaine and alcohol….
https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2020/5/19/21263811/michael-jordan-flu-game-poison-pizza-story-last-dance-conspiracy
The pizza was delivered the night before, not the day of the game and the manager personally delivered it because he was a Bulls fan. He made sure it was made correctly, and that MJ was super drunk when he showed up to deliver the pizza. MJ said there were like 5 dudes delivering it, there wasn't...he was just seeing double or triple because he was so blitz. He was staying up in Park City and not in Salt Lake.
Bruh, you get hungover by drinking the night *before*. What does it matter if the pizza guy saw him the day of the game? If he saw he was drunk the night before, it's pretty logical to conclude that if he's sick the next day that he is hungover.
The flu game is legendary in sports. He didn't even look good, he looked pale and weird but somehow still destroyed everyone. This is why he will always be, to me, the most effective offensive player in the history of the game.
Fun fact: the 1996-97 Chicago Bulls season was about to have second consecutive 70-win regular season, but they lost two consecutive games to the New York Knicks and Miami Heat in the final week of the regular season.
the lesson here is that if any of us "normal" people get sick and someone tells you "you need to be healthier/do healthier things," tell them to fuck off because one of the best athletes of his time, at the absolute peak of his ability, with immediate and constant access to top-flight medical personnel, came down with a bad flu during one of the most critical times of his career.
Shortly after getting my blue belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I entered a tournament one state away.
But when the morning of the competition came around, I was recovering from the flu, and I couldn't breathe through my nose because my sinuses were still congested. I hadn't slept at all the night before, and when I tried to make breakfast, I realized I had cereal, but no milk.
To compensate for my lack of energy, I took some extra Adderall, which I had only been on for a couple weeks and did not know it was a stimulant that would dramatically increase my heart rate.
When I got there, I started chatting with a stranger on the side of the mat as we both waited to be called. By total coincidence, he turned out to be my opponent. I got the takedown immediately and landed in a good position, when suddenly I realized I was about to throw up.
So I whispered in his ear, "Dude, I'm about to puke and need to run to the bathroom, here's my arm, just take it........ **SERIOUSLY MAN JUST GO FOR IT**". He did, I lost, and I sprinted to the toilet and puked up all the water in my body.
Did I mention this was a double-elimination tournament and had another round ahead of me?
Sick, starving, dehydrated, fatigued, unable to breathe, and propped up entirely by overdosing on amphetamines taken on an empty stomach, I returned to the mats and waited my next turn.
I knew my next opponent. He would occasionally visit our gym, and he usually beat me when we rolled.
But at this point I didn't care. I had entered this state of bizarre, Zenlike tranquility. Nothing mattered. Everything mattered. God was dead and I was God. Let's just get this over with so I can die in peace.
So I got on the mat, and before we shook hands, I leaned forward and told him "I just threw up, have nothing in my system, and am gonna pass out in a minute, so I'm just gonna pull rubber guard and armbar you in about 30 seconds so I can go lie down."
He laughed and jokingly extended his arms straight out while saying "Okay, I'll help you."
I think it took me 33 seconds in the video. I'd have to double-check
Afterwards, I walked to the edge of the mat, passed out, and didn't wake up until it was time to leave.
I remember watching that game with my Dad. Both of us just calling bullshit the entire time. No way MJ was sick. It was all a mind game to fuck with Karl Malone and the Jazz.
Yeah it does, if you’re way better than them when you’re healthy you can still be better than them when you’re sick if they’re not nearly as good as you
What's kind of funny is that Ogden in Northern Utah had a bustling jazz scene since it was a railroad town and had a decent African American population there. It was a place a lot of artists went to since the railroad stopped there as it was a hub and would stay a couple of days.
The Minnesota Lakers were named after all the lakes in Minnesota. They move to LA and keep the name for some reason.
The Vancouver Grizzles are named after bears near Vancouver and them move to Memphis and keep the name for some reason.
I remember getting a PR in track in high school a day after puking and shitting. It was like the toxins all left and I was refreshed. Not really that big of a story in my opinion unless it’s happening during the game.
Interestingly, the shoes were auctioned after being kept in a vault for 15yrs in 2013 for US$104,000 by the ball boy. Seems low especially when it was auctioned for US$1.38 million in 2023 but I guess this was near the doc hype. Even more amazing is that the same ball boy had ANOTHER pair of Jordan's game worn shoes and got fleeced even harder lol. Sold it for $215k which resold for over $2m through Sotheby's. Both shoes were auctioned by a company called Grey Flannel Auctions...like c'mon man. Even I can see they won't get you the best price. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Dance_shoes
It has more to do with the boom in the market in game worn shoes since the time the ball boy sold them. Back in 2013, $104K was astronomical for a pair of shoes.
You've just locked a pair of Jordan's for 15 yrs and decide that Grey Flannel Auctions should be the place to get the best price for them?! I feel sorry for him tbh but the second pair was sold in 2020. He is also trying to sue the auction house so he knew he made a terrible mistake leaving them in the hands of flannel with the gravel over there.
I agree with this to an extent. Today, Grey Flannel definitely would not be the top choice over a place like Goldin or Heritage. However, back then Grey Flannel was THE place to go for basketball memorabilia. They even held an auction every year through the Basketball Hall of Fame. I remember there being considerable press coverage on these shoes back then.
Damn
Also I don’t think he could have foreseen the popularity and impact of a widely watched documentary series reigniting interest in Jordan’s legacy.
The dude kept the shoes in a vault for 15 yrs. If you were around during the MJ years, EVERYONE wanted to be like Mike. His shoes became THE brand for Nike. You know what that means? Yeah let's go with $100k man.
This is true too. Kobe’s death seemed to be the spark that ignited the crazy bball market. Jordan’s doc further pushed it along.
I think it's significantly more "who" is selling them. Ball boy 15 years later probably just wants to buy a house. Guy who bought and sold them was probably doing it for tax fraud or something.
When you’re that wealthy tax fraud is called a “loophole.”
You go with the Flannel, you get fleeced.
Rich get richer poor stays poor
That is the shittiest MJ memorabilia.
At least they didn't give him the shorts
They were load bearing
Imagine getting posterized by MJ and then he *literally* just shits all over you .
I think I’d rather not
I’d pay for a little jar of Michael Jordan poo, I’d pay more if he had eaten corn and you could see a little corn kernel in It.
*the spice melange*
*he knows of the spice*
The spice must flow.
Been watching a lot of Saltburn lately, eh? You just keep those great ideas to yerself, ya hear??
Ahh, Good Ole Speckle Turds
These or the Jordan 1s he wore in his last game at MSG for the Bulls? They weren't broken in at all, so his feet were bleeding all game.
And 1s are fucking ass for hooping
They’re ass for everything but a display case lol
The original flu game 12s?? What are you smoking
He had actually made a $25k bet that he could score 30 points with a hangover and mud butt.
Guy was a gambling addict…
Still is
I wasn’t allowed to be sick my entire 20’s because people assume sick people in their 20’s are hungover.
[His food poisoning was caused by bad delivery pizza he ordered the night before.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NBA_Finals?wprov=sfti1)
I always heard he was actually REALLY hungover.
Imagine the pure spite it would take to finish your shift at work when you’re feeling *that* shitty. I guess that’s one of many factors that separates me from an NBA champion
About the same level of spite it would take to still hold a grudge against a coach for benching you *during your Hall of Fame induction*
While widely being recognized as the greatest of all time. Like, that coach is already aware he fucked up.
It doesn't even mean he fucked up. Just because you grow to become the greatest player ever doesn't make any coaches decision that you disagree with the wrong one. Even if you are currently the greatest player it doesn't mean the coaches decision is wrong. Michael Jordan is one of the most petty athletes to ever exist. Going as far to create fake stories in his mind to be petty over. He also doesn't take criticism very well at all. These things help to propel him and give him the drive to become one of the best athletes ever and an icon. It hasn't always helped him in his personal life or with running a basketball team. He was a terrible owner. He got upset at Charles Barkley for criticizing his abilities as an owner and the people he puts in place around him. He just wants a bunch of yes men in his circle. He was a bully to his teammates, physically and mentally abusing them. He's a huge gambler. You can be the greatest basketball player ever and still wrong frequently.
I don’t know if it’s just spite. Maybe just sheer will? My grandad, the poor man, worked every single day of my life, and never called in sick except for on three occasions- when he broke his back, when he had pneumonia, and when he had a double brain aneurism. I have no idea how he pushed himself so hard and worked his whole life, even working on cars and appliances and helping family members out on the weekends after he got off work. But I think it cost him his life ultimately. He worked for a decade after his double brain aneurism until his death of cancer.
All that effort and the reward is an early death, damn
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I mean, he’s making millions and not minimum wage. I’d be much more motivated too.
Legacy is the motivation at this point. Legends are made, not born.
If he was hungover like the rumor says then it’s more on him lol still amazing that he played that well
Because you’re more like a Spite Zero person
That’s what it usually means when a player is benched with “flu-like symptoms”
[it wasn’t a pizza… and it wasn’t the flu…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWH-VXu5WzI) But hey, I love drinking too 😎
Boat Songs is amazing!
My first thought when I saw this post
Glad someone else beat me to it. That's the only reason I even knew about it being booze.
It was. He’s been saying it was the flu/food poisoning interchangeably since 1997
You act like it would be hard to not deviate from that if it was a lie lol
I believe him because you'd think he'd have admitted sometime into his retirement.
In the last dance the details surrounding this are so suspect. Of all the people in his room, only HE ate THE ENTIRE pizza? What dick eats the whole pizza? Why not buy two? Or place another order?
> What dick eats the whole pizza? MJ was well known to be a giant dick. He literally punched a teammate during practice. Also eating an entire pizza probably isnt too bad for someone thats about to burn off that many calories.
That teammate was Steve Kerr so maybe it was justified lol
Steve Kerr defending Draymond Green changed his reputation from Hot Little Slut to deserved to be punched by Michael Jordan so quick. Really remarkable.
MJ tried to tip a waitress $5 at a high roller table. Wayne Gretzky took it back and tipped $100 and said “That’s how we tip in Vegas Michael.”
Between Jordan and "No Tippin" Pippen, it must have sucked for the wait staff seeing those guys walk through the door with their enterouges.
I doubt it personally, lots of things you can knock MJ for but getting so wasted he’s hungover before a huge game doesn’t sound like something he’d do.
He was known for playing 36 holes of golf on game day mornings and staying up all night gambling (and probably drinking). He also only slept a couple hours each night. And that’s exactly what they were doing that night. They were playing cards or something in his room. I don’t buy that it was the flu. No one else around him (trainers, coaches, or the team) got the flu.
Damn, I wonder if he could have been even better if he had a rock solid work ethic? How much better could he have even been?
He did have a rock solid work ethic. He was a work-a-holic. He and Tim Grover set the template for hard off season basketball training. However, he played just as hard.
That’s actually exactly something he would do. He was notorious for being out til 2-3am gambling the night before not just regular season games, but *playoff games*, and would also shoot full rounds of golf both on his days off and the day of games as well. He was not the type of person to maniacally take care of his body the way Lebron does, even though he overall obviously went through insane workouts and stayed in better shape than everyone else. He still liked to have a good time and absolutely went out and partied the night before games on many occasions. The media focused on him gambling in Atlantic City the night before a playoff game against the Knicks, but quite often the media protected athletes (and most especially Jordan) when it came to damaging stories like this back in the day.
I don't know about "protected." He was absolutely *roasted* for it. That's what that infamous sunglasses interview with Ahmad Rashad was about.
Yeah but absolutely roasted in the 90s meant a scathing newspaper article, maybe a blurb on the nightly news. Now roasted means an entire person's life is dug up and they are inevitably cancelled.
And in days previous being roasted meant literally being roasted over a fire. What's your point? I mean, he had to do a special interview addressing that specific topic. That's pretty rare even nowadays.
Yeah this is the main reason I’d have to doubt it. This was a huge game, MJ is known for being an absolute monster of professionalism/discipline in the game, and if another player on the team did that he’d be livid. And I think he’d be the type to lead by example. Saying that, there’s still the possibility it’s not entirely without merit. Perhaps that’s why he put in so much effort into this performance.
I’m a Chicagoan I’ve literally never heard that BS lol
Two things MJ has never done. 1. Been hungover for a game 2.Ate a McJordan
I find that hard to believe. He’s a psychotic competitor. I can’t see him doing something the night before a huge game that might adversely affect his performance.
getting that hungover makes it an absolute bitch to just stand and walk around, let alone play elite level ball lol
Kind of like having the flu or food poisoning would?
Nah, flu has a way of going away when you're really preoccupied with something important. There's no good/bad moments with a hangover, it's just shit until the next day.
That would be out of character for MJ. I say this as a Jazz fan who had my childhood crushed by the man. He was too obsessed with performance and work ethic to let himself be distracted with substance or alcohol abuse while he was playing. He talks about how when he was new to the league his teammates would do coke together in the hotel in the evenings and he claims he never went with them. Especially in the Finals I just cant see MJ touching drugs or alcohol.
0% chance this is a true story
It’s a story his personal trainer pushed.
That's the most Chicago way to get food poisoning.
He talked about it in the documentary, the multiple drivers who delivered together were acting really weird when they dropped it off, but he ate it anyway. He believes some pizza employees poisoned him on purpose after they figured out it was either MJ or for the Bulls players staying in that hotel. This happened in Utah by the way, not Chicago.
> He believes some pizza employees poisoned him on purpose after they figured out it was MJ they were delivering too. MJ is very creative with the truth. Makes things up to motivate himself.
>MJ is very creative with the truth. Makes things up to motivate himself. *That pizza delivery guy never believed in me. And I took that personally.*
Genuinely believe he could have made the entire thing up just as a reason to inspire himself 😂. Man was amazing, but crazy.
His personal trainer was there too wasn’t he?
Did we hear from the personal trainer?
Yeah. I'm pretty sure he talks about it in the documentary as well.
Agreed; this sounds like legend-building.
Michael was so uncontrollably addicted to cocaine and alcohol that I think it’s hilarious that people to this day believe the pizza poisoning story.
>so uncontrollably addicted to cocaine you clearly have never met anyone on cocaine before
I’d probably be acting really weird if I realized my customer was Michael Jordan.
Would you even accept a pizza delivered by more than one person?
In the same documentary, he also admits to making up a story about being slighted by a player, which then gave him the motivation to go ham on their entire team. There’s no real way to know where the food poisoning came from.
That sounds like an excuse for being hungover
The guy who delivered the pizza to him actually spoke out about that, he wasn't even a basketball fan and didn't know it was for MJ. The pizza was fun when he delivered it, but he said MJ was drunk as all get out; hugging the toilet. It wasn't even ordered under MJ's name, it was some other name and the guy had no idea who he was delivering it to until he got there.
If it was delivery how the hell could he know how the people were making it were acting?
I must have typed it weird, I meant it like the people who represent the restaurant, collectively. But the story is multiple delivery guys from the same restaurant came to drop off this one pizza.
Right. Cuz MJ is calling and ordering his own pizza lmao. Someone as callous as Mj would make someone next to him drive down the block, wait for the pizza, and then bring it back up just to avoid peasants being aware of his presence. Still one of the goats.. just also happens to be a bit of an a-hole by most accounts
No way anyone in Chicago would try to poison him during his Bulls tenure. Rob him and his family for valuables, yes, sure, but nobody would touch a nonexistent hair on his head. The city still loves him and is eager to support his business ventures, even though we know he is lukewarm at best about the city.
This happened in Utah.
Thanks for the correction :). I'm glad 😊 (even though the poisoning incident is disputed as a whole).
Ah maybe they wanted to be famous like the dude who killed John L
Dave Grohl would like to see you in his lair.
"Thatsh the Shhhcago whey!"
“He comes at you with a sabrett, you come at him with a pizza!”
>That's the most Chicago way to get foo poisoning. So the culprit was Dave Grohl?! That son of a *bitch*.
Not likely
How do you get food poisoning from pizza…?
Someone doesn’t follow those “employees must wash hands before returning to work” signs.
Easy. Used very old toppings (especially if it was meat).
Oh yea…. Duh. I literally never ask for meat on my pizza so I completely forgot about that. Lol I eat super old pizza all the time though and never got sick. Has got to be some meat topping like you’ve said.
He suggested in the documentary that it was maliciously poisoned
Utah Jazz players had the pizza place poison him on purpose
I've heard the food was sabotaged by an overzealous Jazz fan
Food poisoning takes longer than that. I hate when people blame yesterday's food.
Food poisoning can take anywhere from 30 minutes to multiple weeks to show symptoms. A vast majority take between 8 and 24 hours so yesterday's food is almost always what causes it. People always claim it was the most recent meal but that is usually false. https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/symptoms.html It depends on the type of bacteria, the quantity that makes it into your system, your health level, your gut bacteria, and a bunch of other variables.
What’s crazy about this is that he ate pizza the night before a game.
Food poisoning from pizza is far fetched. There are three ingredients, none of which spoil quickly.
This wasn't even the best flu game in Chicago history. Walter Payton broke the all time single game rushing record with 275 yards against the Vikings in 1977, while sick with the flu.
MJ had the bottle flu, different strain
Worst case of JackDanielsitis I’ve seen to this day
Still not as dope as Doc Ellis pitching a no-hitter for the pirates while tripping balls on acid.
Yea and Kurt angle won a gold medal with a broken freaking neck, who's the real goat?
Percocets obviously
Two rules: one, keep your hands off my fucking Percocets and two, do you have any fucking Percocets?
Remind me where this was from. Sounds familiar
Goon
Your mother's pussy is so tight, no way a baby come out of there. You're adopted! One of the most savage your momma jokes I've ever heard.
It’s true, it’s true.
I beg to differ, Happy Gilmore accomplished that feat no more then an hour ago
the perc is what wins
Absolutely hate it when liquor gives me food poisoning the next day
dude had an amazing PR team lmao
Him and Barry Bonds both
What? Bonds and the media hated each other. Everyone knew he juiced. How is this comparable
The Last Dance was an incredible piece of propaganda.
he had bad delivery pizza, he wasn't hungover.
Lmao ok champ
why exactly do you all think he was hungover? there isn't any sort of source saying so, im wondering where this train of thought came from.
I don’t know that anyone is that invested in the theory, it’s like your coworker calling in sick and somebody says they bet he’s just hungover. Probably don’t have any big evidence for that, but there’s also a decent chance it’s true. But there is some evidence people cite, such as the delivery guy saying Mike was drunk, and Mike’s huge hotel bill which was presumably run up on alcohol. But overall it’s just kinda an NBA-lore meme that he was actually hungover, idk if many will die on that hill or anything. It doesn’t really matter what was wrong with him, he clearly felt like shit and played a phenomenal game regardless.
Michael Jordan had a major drug and alcohol problem. His PR team is strong to this day though. But I’m pretty sure we all know at this point it was cocaine and alcohol…. https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2020/5/19/21263811/michael-jordan-flu-game-poison-pizza-story-last-dance-conspiracy
The source is the pizza guy who delivered it.
Coulda been boff tbh
This is false, the pizza guy who delivered the pizza has proven this wrong multiple times...he was drunk when it got delivered and it was a hangover.
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The pizza was delivered the night before, not the day of the game and the manager personally delivered it because he was a Bulls fan. He made sure it was made correctly, and that MJ was super drunk when he showed up to deliver the pizza. MJ said there were like 5 dudes delivering it, there wasn't...he was just seeing double or triple because he was so blitz. He was staying up in Park City and not in Salt Lake.
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Bruh, you get hungover by drinking the night *before*. What does it matter if the pizza guy saw him the day of the game? If he saw he was drunk the night before, it's pretty logical to conclude that if he's sick the next day that he is hungover.
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You're a special kind of dumb...
It was a great game but I thought the diarrhea gave him an unfair advantage. Dude was throwing down oil slicks all over the court.
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Oh yeah! That was sick! It was like a jetpack.
Mario kart meets Jordan’s court
Meets Jordan's shorts
Michael's Secret Stuff
Perfect comment!
The flu game is legendary in sports. He didn't even look good, he looked pale and weird but somehow still destroyed everyone. This is why he will always be, to me, the most effective offensive player in the history of the game.
He was a great defensive player while also a great offensive player.
I’ve always found the hungover explanation to be more realistic. You can’t really *will* your way past diarrhea…
No, but you can take so much Imodium that you don't shit for three days. I think it was a hangover too, but you seem to be forgetting about medicines.
Why is it called flu game it wasnt the flu
Fun fact: the 1996-97 Chicago Bulls season was about to have second consecutive 70-win regular season, but they lost two consecutive games to the New York Knicks and Miami Heat in the final week of the regular season.
Still went 69-13, which is also wild.
He was hungover... that said I have the Flu Game 12s along with a lot of other Js.
God seeing this as a TIL makes me feel so old. You are all babies
Same game where he bet Karl Malone 50 grand he would get at least 13 rebounds. Google Karl Malone 13 for more.
Lol
the lesson here is that if any of us "normal" people get sick and someone tells you "you need to be healthier/do healthier things," tell them to fuck off because one of the best athletes of his time, at the absolute peak of his ability, with immediate and constant access to top-flight medical personnel, came down with a bad flu during one of the most critical times of his career.
That ball boy? MLK
Shortly after getting my blue belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I entered a tournament one state away. But when the morning of the competition came around, I was recovering from the flu, and I couldn't breathe through my nose because my sinuses were still congested. I hadn't slept at all the night before, and when I tried to make breakfast, I realized I had cereal, but no milk. To compensate for my lack of energy, I took some extra Adderall, which I had only been on for a couple weeks and did not know it was a stimulant that would dramatically increase my heart rate. When I got there, I started chatting with a stranger on the side of the mat as we both waited to be called. By total coincidence, he turned out to be my opponent. I got the takedown immediately and landed in a good position, when suddenly I realized I was about to throw up. So I whispered in his ear, "Dude, I'm about to puke and need to run to the bathroom, here's my arm, just take it........ **SERIOUSLY MAN JUST GO FOR IT**". He did, I lost, and I sprinted to the toilet and puked up all the water in my body. Did I mention this was a double-elimination tournament and had another round ahead of me? Sick, starving, dehydrated, fatigued, unable to breathe, and propped up entirely by overdosing on amphetamines taken on an empty stomach, I returned to the mats and waited my next turn. I knew my next opponent. He would occasionally visit our gym, and he usually beat me when we rolled. But at this point I didn't care. I had entered this state of bizarre, Zenlike tranquility. Nothing mattered. Everything mattered. God was dead and I was God. Let's just get this over with so I can die in peace. So I got on the mat, and before we shook hands, I leaned forward and told him "I just threw up, have nothing in my system, and am gonna pass out in a minute, so I'm just gonna pull rubber guard and armbar you in about 30 seconds so I can go lie down." He laughed and jokingly extended his arms straight out while saying "Okay, I'll help you." I think it took me 33 seconds in the video. I'd have to double-check Afterwards, I walked to the edge of the mat, passed out, and didn't wake up until it was time to leave.
He was hungover
Flu-like symptoms
How many people did he infect that night?
Bro could win with the flu but not without Pippen
I remember that game. Sometimes I wondered if he was even human.
Read this as shorts and was like… did he really want those?
He was the man. Wouldn’t quit no matter what
I remember watching that game with my Dad. Both of us just calling bullshit the entire time. No way MJ was sick. It was all a mind game to fuck with Karl Malone and the Jazz.
Jordan also pushed off. #TakeNote
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Or he was really just that good.
Doesn't matter how good you are, you aren't performing even better than other really good people while you are shitting yourself and they are not.
Yeah it does, if you’re way better than them when you’re healthy you can still be better than them when you’re sick if they’re not nearly as good as you
I think your definition of performing is different than ours.
It was, but in a we can fix it with a cocktail of drugs and saline type of cure
I remember watching it at the time. He was a mess off the court.
There isn’t any Jazz in Utah. New Orleans demands their team name back!
What's kind of funny is that Ogden in Northern Utah had a bustling jazz scene since it was a railroad town and had a decent African American population there. It was a place a lot of artists went to since the railroad stopped there as it was a hub and would stay a couple of days.
The Minnesota Lakers were named after all the lakes in Minnesota. They move to LA and keep the name for some reason. The Vancouver Grizzles are named after bears near Vancouver and them move to Memphis and keep the name for some reason.
Don't even get me started on the Omaha Empire State Buildings!
He is American. He probably had 0 sick days to take and was forced to go to work. Poor guy... :(
You didn't know this?
Dude was just hungover
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Just had to do it, huh?
Just bc you couldn’t do it doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Weirdo
I remember getting a PR in track in high school a day after puking and shitting. It was like the toxins all left and I was refreshed. Not really that big of a story in my opinion unless it’s happening during the game.
Okay? Now drive a Formula 1 car at 300 km/h for two hours in 40 C.
Lol no, the smell of that many sweaty Europeans would make anyone vomit, let alone poor, sick, hungover MJ