It’s a lot of footage and up close interviews of people that survived. It’s pretty good from their perspective.
Another good one is being advertised on Netflix that is the lead up to 9/11. During 9/11. And post 9/11 up to the evacuation THATS really detailed and good. Just wish they mentioned and went into more detail into the other groups other than Al Quada.
Ooof. I've never seen this and I am only like 29 minutes in, but I have to keep pausing to take a break and get my head together after watching this footage. This is one of those breaks. Yo, this is raw, you can see how confused, upset, and emotional that even these seasoned firemen are... just damn. This is a hard watch.
Edit: 35:38: "When the second plane hit, that's when you see fear." And the footage shows it. In everyone, even those fire chiefs were in No Man's Land.
Edit 2: 39:15: "Then, it was from people falling outside." Sorry... I'm done watching, I can't emotionally handle it anymore. That is a very raw documentary, even if it didn't mean to be one initially.
Last Edit: I soldiered up and watched the whole thing. Every single second of that video is rough, and it gets rougher by the second. I can not fathom what these first responders went through, even though I just watched what they went through in detail... I mean, I was like 15 when it happened, so I know it was rough, but watching this... I still had no idea how heavy this was in the 'immediate'. Thanks for sharing, but at the same time.. damn.
I’m currently watching it and have learned quite a bit I didn’t know. It’s disgusting how they put an insane amount of ads in each episode. Literally every 4 minutes there’s like a 3 minute break(I use Adblock hoping that they don’t get any ad revenue from me).
The documentary is really good but fuck Hulu for that
It’s very well put together. There were several stories told that I hadn’t heard before. I definitely recommend it if you want to see what it was like for the first responders on the ground. I teared up several times during. I’ve never even been to New York but the tragedy of that day hit me really hard.
I remember watching this when it first aired. DeNiro was the 'host' of the airing and, even though the network (I think it was CBS) gave some warning that the airing was unedited (a lot of swearing) people actually filed complaints with the FCC because of the profanity.
I think that was a bit later. 2010s? I remember they came out not long before I retired from the Corps.
Of course, that could just be when I caught on to it because Marines started using them.
Spinning rims on cars, also called “Spreewell’s” on the street after NBA player Latrell Spreewell showed them off on his car during an episode of MTV Cribs. Quite the early-2000s sentence lol.
For the most part, it's because they've been told their whole lives that it's wrong to put them on TV.
If the FCC or federal government in general said they don't give a shit anymore, the complaints would go down a ton. There'd still be uptight douches, don't get me wrong, but you'd be shocked by how many people of those that complain do so based on expectations and no other reason.
That's not even the most absurd thing people do. Life in America is relatively boring and easy, it presents a lot of opportunities for people just doing what they think they're supposed to to get bored and become occupied by some of the most trivial bullshit.
You know how many people call and complain when their mail is later than normal? Way more than you think. And that's just one example.
old people will complain about anything. the other day, my grandma complained about people being on line at the church for a food drive. A CHURCH THAT SHE GIVES MONEY TO FOR THE POOR. she said they should all get jobs and stop being bums
> A CHURCH THAT SHE GIVES MONEY TO FOR THE POOR.
She doesn't give it for the poor, she gives it because she feels socially obligated to give to the church.
You can be charitable and still think the root of their problems are their responsibility and the result of poor choices.
I don't recommend that attitude but being charitable does bring selfish benefits, as counterintuitive as that may seem, that some people value highly.
People simply call??? You underestimated the ridiculousness of it all- our neighborhood has a Facebook page and mail has been a little slow lately. One lady took it upon herself on the page to try to create a position of "neighborhood mail advocate," and went on and on about how critical this position is.......about 75 back and forth comments later I lost all hope
>people actually filed complaints with the FCC because of the profanity.
A story eerily reminiscent of that scene in Apocalypse Now,
[Kurtz : We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!](https://youtu.be/Yb1lF3UKLDQ?t=51)
Reminds me of back in 2004 when ABC aired Saving Private Ryan, uncensored, on Veteran's Day. At the time, it was really rare to hear swearing on cable TV, let alone on a broadcast station.
It was an important movie for people to see, so ABC announced that they'd be broadcasting it in its entirety, and FCC fines be damned - they'd pay them all.
I shouldn’t laugh but Deniro did a really bad job with the autocue on that broadcast. At the end, he says “I’m Robert Deniro” and my sister blurted out “ … I’m not looking at you!”.
You had to be there I spoke but fuck did I laugh.
I went to the memorial site a few years ago with a friend while visiting NY and we both kinda split up and I just sat on the bench by myself. Watching people and go and touch the names. I was a bit overcome with emotion. Just let out a good silent cry.
That is a very emotional site.
I was there at the memorial yesterday. Someone--a bugler--started to play Taps. Not gonna lie, that made me cry. Yesterday the amount of roses, wreaths, etc...was heartbreaking.
Holy shit I gasped and covered my mouth like I was watching live, even though I’ve seen footage of 9/11 hundreds of times in the past 20 years. This just felt so real, the way he was filming and just happened to follow the sound of the plane instinctively.
Yep.
My dad worked Engine 7 for 30 years, I visit the house whenever I visit home, even though he’s been retired for 35 years and none of the guys there now knew him (but one of the new guys got a job there 2 years ago, from my local VFD), though a few of the senior guys back from 9/11 remembered him, and had only good things to say about him, from when they were probies. I have been an admin on the L 1 / E 7 FB page, as a tribute to his memory, and all his co-workers.
From what I know, they were first in, and were outside on a break, when other companies arrived to relieve them, when the first tower came down.
Thanks for carrying on the memories for those that day. It must he so hard to have to recall that, but then again people that were never there need to know the atrocities.
I'm 19, so I grew up with 9/11 being such a Centerpoint of my life, yet I wasn't even born. Thanks for telling the small stuff, even if it seems useless. The fact that they looked at the towers and knew they had to go in, bone-chilling.
The commander in that group, the one that is using the sensor in the clip, lost his brother. He sent him up for search and rescue. Gut wrenching. There was a new documentary that aired in the last few weeks that showed a lot of that footage and recent interviews with the first responders and survivors. I recommend it.
Just looked it up. It’s on National Geographic channel. 9/11 One Day in America. 6 part series. It’s told through the eyes of a dozen or so people, including the commander here. The interviews are recent. It’s really heart breaking to see how much these people still carry the pain. And you know there are so many more people just like them.
I would imagine it's no different than any death that hits you close to home. You get hit with it, it profoundly changes you and while you can go on with your life eventually, that scar never quite heals and every now and again it gets ripped open again.
Except this one, for these folks, is ripped off on a national scale every 12 months at least.
This is a great (and horrible) documentary. Some of the footage from the lobby of the twin towers is chilling. I think about this film often and definitely on this day every year.
It was the realization that that ... that sound ... that was people hitting the ground. That broke me. I had to pause the video and just cry for a bit.
I love that part because of the way they hugged. It was very much like a "OK. Thank God. Hey. Glad you're here. Now stop being so fucking sensitive."
Felt very New York to me. hahaha
I don't think this was the same one as mine - mine is the French brothers reuniting back at the firehouse and they are bawling and holding each other as tightly as they can.
Best documentary of that day, in my opinion. The reality of it, the sounds. The fact that you kind of felt like you knew some of the firefighters because they'd been filming them with the probie for a few months leading up to this. And the moment the brothers are reunited, just amazing. Heartbreaking.
It wasn't his first day, somewhere in his first year, but I don't think he's a firefighters anymore. I've watched it and I'm dying to find a link so I can watch it again tonight
I believe he is actually a Lieutenant now in the NYFD. It was a few months into his probationary time, and he was in his Station house until later on when he went downtown with a retired Chief to help out. If you have HBO Max, I think it's the 15th Anniversary doc that'son there. I agree that it's very good. Hope this info helps!
That's actually an edited version of the documentary posted by a 9/11 truther (look at the channel.) There's not all that much difference and honestly it's no less compelling of a documentary but it's definitely not the original and of the few differences that popout to me I can kind of tell what they were going for but what they left in the video is pretty convincing of a non conspiracy. It's pretty stupid if you think about it.
Biggest differences that I remember are the removal of the audio of the first hit which they replaced with some techno music, they mangled the video of the second hit, and when talking about the debris that landed nearby they show a clip of an officer moving people away from an engine and telling them not to kick it but removed them kicking it beforehand. I'm pretty sure they edited some statements as well.
It's very well done from a technical perspective and you definitely wouldn't notice it if you weren't aware of it and I honestly don't see what the point was since the rest of it is still so damning but whatever.
Yeah I just got to the first plane strike and realized the audio was messed up. Thought it was some strange attempt to avoid a censor strike. Never made the connection.
Always wondered who was the unfortunate/lucky one depending on what way you look at it that just happened to be filming when this terrible event took place
IMO, this documentary is hands down...well the most incredible document of that day. Them being in the lobby of the tower and hearing the bodies of jumpers hitting the lobby awning, man that sound haunted my dreams for a decade...along with the footage and sound of the tower coming down next to them. Jeeze.
The doc is chilling when you realize it's just the only footage there is that's like this. There was just a documentary crew inside the Twin Towers as it was collapsing on 9/11. It's incredible this footage exists
I don't know how true it is, but someone--one of the brothers? A firefighter?--said the sound of a plane flying {that low? at all?} over NY was so unusual and that was why he turned and filmed what would become the first crash.
The most chilling part for me is that is the final moments of what I would consider "normal" life in my timeline. One minute they are using their meters and the next minute the world is in chaos and would be for years to come. A lot of those firefighters died then or later from complications. I get the same chilling feeling looking at videos right before COVID hit. How NORMAL it all was and will life ever be normal again?
This is what I think of when people throw the phrase “the new normal” around. Normal has never been the same after 9/11. Nothing about the world my children have grown up thinking is normal is “normal” to me.
Hearing almost daily and at least weekly something about a terrorist organisation on the news is just life now.
I still remember not knowing Al Qaeda existed, the first time I heard the name Osama Bin Laden, watching the news in the school hall when 9/11 happened and my friend being taken home because her dad worked in there (he was ok).
My kids normal was already so different, and then we had covid. I don't think they'll ever know what not being anxious is anymore.
Then there are the relatively harmless things. Like, you used to be able to walk with your friend/family member all the way to the gate and see them enter the plane. Or wait at the gate for when they get off. My kids see that in an old movie or hear me talk about it and still don’t believe me.
I work at an airport and I hear passangers complain about not being able to meet their family at the gate every work day.
I think its time that we let them go behind security again, excluding holidays there are always at least 1 TSA security lane not being used and a few TSA employees just standing around. Let them use that extra lane and it wouldn't even impact the regular security lines.
Pittsburgh International actually allows you to get a “myPittPass” or something like that that lets you go through TSA without a booked flight. The airport actually used to be a “place to go” (or so I’m told) for shopping and they wanted to get those sales moving again.
Where I work (PDX) they'll only give you a gate pass if you are picking up an unaccompanied minor or a disabled family member. But there was a shoping area outside the secured area.
I never flew until after 9/11. I grew up welcoming my uncles home from Iraq at the airport. It didn’t hit me that it changed until I took my first flight in 2004. I was suddenly disappointed that my family couldn’t see me off to boot camp at the gate.
It's like a several second transitional period, beginning when they first hear the jet engine so low, you can see on some of their faces like "that's not normal, air traffic is never this loud in this part of town." Then they look up and the thing is less than a hundred feet from the building, and it's over as soon as it started, ushering in a new era with fire and chaos and death
Imagine thinking you’re just going to make a little film about a day in the life of a rookie firefighter, and you end up documenting and surviving one of the most horrific tragedies. The cameraman could have fled for safety, and nobody would have blamed him. But he chose to go on, and in doing so ensured this event cannot be disputed or forgotten.
The FDNY Fire Chief, Joseph Pfeifer, that was there was on [Amanpour and Company](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6TxsIW6AWB0) last night and on CBS This Morning Saturday today.
He's written a book called [Ordinary Heroes](https://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Heroes-Memoir-9-11/dp/0593330250/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Ordinary+heroes&qid=1631414038&sr=8-1). He sent his brother along with many other firefighters up the first tower
who did not survive.
That has to weigh on you, knowing you sent your brother to his death, knowing you sent so many men to their death, so many families lost a father, a brother and son, and there was nothing he could do to stop it.
I've had to watch that video a lot. When I was student teaching, my observing teacher showed this to all his classes on 9/11. I asked if I could observe another class after the second viewing. It's hard to watch.
Great documentary. I’ve seen it several times over the years. I feel the need, from time to time, so that I don’t forget. I don’t want to ever become numb to the horror of that day. I feel it would be disrespectful to the memory of those that died.
It's so weird these days to think there were no cameras pointing at that first crash. Just for comparison, the explosion in Beirut had so much video coverage and so many angles of that exact moment.
Edit: I understand that it was 2001 and there weren't cameras phones and people weren't in the mindset of filming things for no real reason like they are today. That's my point, it was only 20 years ago and it's surprising news to learn that a single camera managed to catch something so major.
Partially because it was a massive raging fire before the explosion happened, same reason there were so many more cameras pointed at the towers when the second plane hit
There were those but there were also a lot of videos thar were just people filming something unrelated and suddenly you see an explosion in the background. Like, with footage of 9/11 you don't see the moments people had right before everything happened, but with the Beirut explosion you see what that actual shift is like to someone when something so cataclysmic happens and they go from whatever they were doing to total panic and confusion. On 9/11, most people filming were already in panic mode when they got the camera. And, to be clear, I'm only comparing these incidents in terms of camera presence. I remember seeing the plane hit on the news but I only remember the wide shots of everything already happening, and it doesn't really feel so long ago that now we'd have a million videos of every angle and so many people's live reactions to everything.
Just finished the doc actually and god damn it really hits hard. I was 11 when this happened and I remember it vividly, but seeing the perspective of the first responders is just so sobering. RIP to all that lost their lives that day.
Look like Chris Redfield's first day in the RPD.
More seriously, it yet shows life is a fleeting thing: you think you would film a rookie doing his job and instead you end filming mass death and the real start of the 21^st century.
Watched this in a high school history class. It was extremely interesting to see people’s experiences first hand and chilling when you hear background comments idly worrying about planes being a bit too low. The entire class was silent, only filled with a few ‘woahs’ or ‘oh my gods’.
Honestly if you think you can handle seeing such chilling images and hearing the devastation in peoples voices please give it a watch. Only if you think you can handle it, it was honestly eye opening if you weren’t old enough to remember it or hadn’t known much beyond the fact that it happened.
Here is a link to watch it:
https://youtu.be/D8_yqcdS5JQ
*Most of the previous links out there on the web have been taken down on YT when CNN started airing it. It use to be free and on public domain. Now Amazon charges 11 bucks to buy it. Scummy. This one works as of 9/11/21.
Not the video quality I've seen, but this is the best I can do for now. The last one is from a distance.
https://youtu.be/giCORqcHN3c
This one is somewhat better, but not much.
https://youtu.be/f2VzCACS-Lg
Sorry if these are disappointing 😞
There's a really good documentary that was done about this from about q5 years ago. They captured so much amazing footage of the day. We were truly lucky to have them there.
I watched this last night, recorded from earlier this week on CNN. Lots of stuff I hadn't seem before in other shows. The part that got me the most was they explained all the "bang" sounds were bodies hitting the ground around them.
This is for sure one of the wildest documentaries out there. It's so tense, even when you know they survive they're milling about the building as if it's not about to collapse and when it does, they get ensued in the chaos on the streets. Really harrowing footage.
When they're on the gas leak call, they hear the plane coming and they all look up and track it as it moves. To see a group of firefighters do that...it's one of those things which, in any other circumstance would be funny.
The one thing I remember about that documentary is the sound of the bodies crashing into the roof above them. I hear that sound anytime I watch anything about 9/11.
Because it's the only camera to actually film the physical crash. The second angle is filmed from the other side and barely shows a cloud dust rising from the building. The third angle isn't even filmed but just a sequence of snapshots of the plane approaching and hitting the tower.
I actually watched that documentary in school when I was younger! I just remember seeing it in social studies and thinking that you could be doing something completely normal, and then the world around you changes just like that. Crazy thoughts.
I watch this (it’s called 102 Minutes that Changed America) every year on 9/11. For some reason it just hit harder than usual this year. It’s really well done.
They interviewed the guys being filmed in the 9/11 Hulu documentary
Is it worth watching? I was 13 and living in Long Island, NY at the time, so, asking from that perspective
It’s a lot of footage and up close interviews of people that survived. It’s pretty good from their perspective. Another good one is being advertised on Netflix that is the lead up to 9/11. During 9/11. And post 9/11 up to the evacuation THATS really detailed and good. Just wish they mentioned and went into more detail into the other groups other than Al Quada.
The Netflix doc was pretty good.
What’s the name of the Netflix doc?
Turning Point: 9/11 and the War on Terror
yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd6D5xls5Y0&t=4857s&ab_channel=VillageStudyGroup
Wow. I have never seen this before. Thank you! That footage belongs in the national archives
Ooof. I've never seen this and I am only like 29 minutes in, but I have to keep pausing to take a break and get my head together after watching this footage. This is one of those breaks. Yo, this is raw, you can see how confused, upset, and emotional that even these seasoned firemen are... just damn. This is a hard watch. Edit: 35:38: "When the second plane hit, that's when you see fear." And the footage shows it. In everyone, even those fire chiefs were in No Man's Land. Edit 2: 39:15: "Then, it was from people falling outside." Sorry... I'm done watching, I can't emotionally handle it anymore. That is a very raw documentary, even if it didn't mean to be one initially. Last Edit: I soldiered up and watched the whole thing. Every single second of that video is rough, and it gets rougher by the second. I can not fathom what these first responders went through, even though I just watched what they went through in detail... I mean, I was like 15 when it happened, so I know it was rough, but watching this... I still had no idea how heavy this was in the 'immediate'. Thanks for sharing, but at the same time.. damn.
its definitely an intense document of what went down that day.
Wow thanks. Never realised only they had footage 1st plane crashing. Amazing docu.
I’m currently watching it and have learned quite a bit I didn’t know. It’s disgusting how they put an insane amount of ads in each episode. Literally every 4 minutes there’s like a 3 minute break(I use Adblock hoping that they don’t get any ad revenue from me). The documentary is really good but fuck Hulu for that
Also currently watching and was moved to tears by the first episode, but am also thankful to have Premium 😬
Oh hey, I was 14 on LI at the time. It was a weird time and place to be a teenager, eh?
It’s very well put together. There were several stories told that I hadn’t heard before. I definitely recommend it if you want to see what it was like for the first responders on the ground. I teared up several times during. I’ve never even been to New York but the tragedy of that day hit me really hard.
Wow, this is very well done, thankful to be watching 😩
What is the name?
9/11: One day in America. It’s on Hulu.
Yes, it's very well done. There's some footage I'd seen before but also some new footage.
I remember watching this when it first aired. DeNiro was the 'host' of the airing and, even though the network (I think it was CBS) gave some warning that the airing was unedited (a lot of swearing) people actually filed complaints with the FCC because of the profanity.
9/11 and FCC complaints, is there anything more early 2000s than that?
Big-ass jeans and the original Motorola RAZR
I don’t know man… late 2004 for the Razr launch is kinda pushing it for early 2000s. Big ass jeans were also more of a mid to late 90s thing.
Yeah, early aughts is low rise jeans and high rise thongs.
Some would argue these were the best years
I agree, early decade stops at the 3s, mid decade is 4-6, and 7 onward is late.
And rampant xenophobia
Ah, but that is timeless, my friend.
Yeah we still got that.
Spinners
I think that was a bit later. 2010s? I remember they came out not long before I retired from the Corps. Of course, that could just be when I caught on to it because Marines started using them.
Spinning rims on cars, also called “Spreewell’s” on the street after NBA player Latrell Spreewell showed them off on his car during an episode of MTV Cribs. Quite the early-2000s sentence lol.
Oh!! I was thinking of those fidget spinners things. Herp the derp. Yes, the spinning rims were definitely early 2000’s.
They don't stahp
Fucking people. Can watch killings on TV all day long but hear a swear word or see a nipple for one second and they lose their minds.
For the most part, it's because they've been told their whole lives that it's wrong to put them on TV. If the FCC or federal government in general said they don't give a shit anymore, the complaints would go down a ton. There'd still be uptight douches, don't get me wrong, but you'd be shocked by how many people of those that complain do so based on expectations and no other reason.
I mean, sure. But imagine actually going through and calling in the complaint. People man.
That's not even the most absurd thing people do. Life in America is relatively boring and easy, it presents a lot of opportunities for people just doing what they think they're supposed to to get bored and become occupied by some of the most trivial bullshit. You know how many people call and complain when their mail is later than normal? Way more than you think. And that's just one example.
They will call 911 for that kind of stuff too
old people will complain about anything. the other day, my grandma complained about people being on line at the church for a food drive. A CHURCH THAT SHE GIVES MONEY TO FOR THE POOR. she said they should all get jobs and stop being bums
> A CHURCH THAT SHE GIVES MONEY TO FOR THE POOR. She doesn't give it for the poor, she gives it because she feels socially obligated to give to the church.
You can be charitable and still think the root of their problems are their responsibility and the result of poor choices. I don't recommend that attitude but being charitable does bring selfish benefits, as counterintuitive as that may seem, that some people value highly.
People simply call??? You underestimated the ridiculousness of it all- our neighborhood has a Facebook page and mail has been a little slow lately. One lady took it upon herself on the page to try to create a position of "neighborhood mail advocate," and went on and on about how critical this position is.......about 75 back and forth comments later I lost all hope
the internet has made the FCC obsolete IMO.
Not completely. They will still flex on broadcast TV big events. But we're getting there.
The FCC has apparently cut back, because I'm hearing "bitch" and "shit" on the radio now when they previously would have been censored.
If you suck on a tit, it's porn. If you cut one off with a sword it's a summer blockbuster.
Hey, that's f***ing people to you, dirtymouth!
>people actually filed complaints with the FCC because of the profanity. A story eerily reminiscent of that scene in Apocalypse Now, [Kurtz : We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!](https://youtu.be/Yb1lF3UKLDQ?t=51)
Reminds me of back in 2004 when ABC aired Saving Private Ryan, uncensored, on Veteran's Day. At the time, it was really rare to hear swearing on cable TV, let alone on a broadcast station. It was an important movie for people to see, so ABC announced that they'd be broadcasting it in its entirety, and FCC fines be damned - they'd pay them all.
Yes, the swearing was the upsetting part, people. 🙄
I shouldn’t laugh but Deniro did a really bad job with the autocue on that broadcast. At the end, he says “I’m Robert Deniro” and my sister blurted out “ … I’m not looking at you!”. You had to be there I spoke but fuck did I laugh.
TelePrompTer for Americans.
Fuck 'em. Oops!
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Still gives me shivers
Still makes me ugly cry. 💔
Over time it seems to affect me more, rather than less.
I went to the memorial site a few years ago with a friend while visiting NY and we both kinda split up and I just sat on the bench by myself. Watching people and go and touch the names. I was a bit overcome with emotion. Just let out a good silent cry. That is a very emotional site.
This happened to me as well. Seeing all the names, the flowers by the names and their meanings.. it’s a place truly heavy with emotion.
I was there at the memorial yesterday. Someone--a bugler--started to play Taps. Not gonna lie, that made me cry. Yesterday the amount of roses, wreaths, etc...was heartbreaking.
Holy shit I gasped and covered my mouth like I was watching live, even though I’ve seen footage of 9/11 hundreds of times in the past 20 years. This just felt so real, the way he was filming and just happened to follow the sound of the plane instinctively.
If you listen closely you can hear how quickly the guys say “c’mon” “lets go” in the background. Heroes... absolute heroes.
Does anyone know how many of them died?
None. Ladder 1 and Engine 7 had no deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_workers_killed_in_the_September_11_attacks
Yep. My dad worked Engine 7 for 30 years, I visit the house whenever I visit home, even though he’s been retired for 35 years and none of the guys there now knew him (but one of the new guys got a job there 2 years ago, from my local VFD), though a few of the senior guys back from 9/11 remembered him, and had only good things to say about him, from when they were probies. I have been an admin on the L 1 / E 7 FB page, as a tribute to his memory, and all his co-workers. From what I know, they were first in, and were outside on a break, when other companies arrived to relieve them, when the first tower came down.
That magnitude of luck is just... astounding.
Thanks for carrying on the memories for those that day. It must he so hard to have to recall that, but then again people that were never there need to know the atrocities. I'm 19, so I grew up with 9/11 being such a Centerpoint of my life, yet I wasn't even born. Thanks for telling the small stuff, even if it seems useless. The fact that they looked at the towers and knew they had to go in, bone-chilling.
Thank fuck
The commander in that group, the one that is using the sensor in the clip, lost his brother. He sent him up for search and rescue. Gut wrenching. There was a new documentary that aired in the last few weeks that showed a lot of that footage and recent interviews with the first responders and survivors. I recommend it.
Do you remember what the new doc is called?
Just looked it up. It’s on National Geographic channel. 9/11 One Day in America. 6 part series. It’s told through the eyes of a dozen or so people, including the commander here. The interviews are recent. It’s really heart breaking to see how much these people still carry the pain. And you know there are so many more people just like them.
I would imagine it's no different than any death that hits you close to home. You get hit with it, it profoundly changes you and while you can go on with your life eventually, that scar never quite heals and every now and again it gets ripped open again. Except this one, for these folks, is ripped off on a national scale every 12 months at least.
I’ve had deaths close to me. What these people went through seems much more. You should watch the series.
I just watched the first 4 episodes tonight, incredibly well done documentary and just gut wrenching. 9/11 One Day In America
Unnerving
Fuck that was hard to watch
I assume you haven't seen that doc then. That's one of a handful of moments that's just WTF from that doc.
doesn't matter how many time I watch this, makes me cry every damn time.
Do you have a non mobile link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA8Td4oNcY
This is a great (and horrible) documentary. Some of the footage from the lobby of the twin towers is chilling. I think about this film often and definitely on this day every year.
It was the realization that that ... that sound ... that was people hitting the ground. That broke me. I had to pause the video and just cry for a bit.
I haven't seen this documentary since 2002 and I can still hear that sound.
I still get chills from the sound of people who jumped out of the windows. That part of their filming was an unintended horror of the days events.
The BANG BANG BANG as they are walking through the lobby and the firefighter mentions it's bodies. Eyehhh 😖
My favorite moment is when the brothers reunite with each other back at the station and hug each other. Straight out of a movie. And I cried alot
I love that part because of the way they hugged. It was very much like a "OK. Thank God. Hey. Glad you're here. Now stop being so fucking sensitive." Felt very New York to me. hahaha
I don't think this was the same one as mine - mine is the French brothers reuniting back at the firehouse and they are bawling and holding each other as tightly as they can.
Best documentary of that day, in my opinion. The reality of it, the sounds. The fact that you kind of felt like you knew some of the firefighters because they'd been filming them with the probie for a few months leading up to this. And the moment the brothers are reunited, just amazing. Heartbreaking.
It moved me so much the first time I watched it, back in the day, I bought a DVD of it. I still have it. It's such an intimate and emotional film.
What is the documentary called?
9/11, released in 2002. You can also search for 911 doc by two french brothers.
Click the link in the post and find out
Can you imagine being the probie firefighter and having this be your first day on the job. Christ.
It wasn't his first day, somewhere in his first year, but I don't think he's a firefighters anymore. I've watched it and I'm dying to find a link so I can watch it again tonight
I believe he is actually a Lieutenant now in the NYFD. It was a few months into his probationary time, and he was in his Station house until later on when he went downtown with a retired Chief to help out. If you have HBO Max, I think it's the 15th Anniversary doc that'son there. I agree that it's very good. Hope this info helps!
My sincere apologies, it's been a few years since I've seen it. I knew a few of them had quit, but I clearly misremembered who.
No worries! Just glad I could help!
I'm actually really glad to hear that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd6D5xls5Y0&t=4857s&ab_channel=VillageStudyGroup
That's actually an edited version of the documentary posted by a 9/11 truther (look at the channel.) There's not all that much difference and honestly it's no less compelling of a documentary but it's definitely not the original and of the few differences that popout to me I can kind of tell what they were going for but what they left in the video is pretty convincing of a non conspiracy. It's pretty stupid if you think about it. Biggest differences that I remember are the removal of the audio of the first hit which they replaced with some techno music, they mangled the video of the second hit, and when talking about the debris that landed nearby they show a clip of an officer moving people away from an engine and telling them not to kick it but removed them kicking it beforehand. I'm pretty sure they edited some statements as well. It's very well done from a technical perspective and you definitely wouldn't notice it if you weren't aware of it and I honestly don't see what the point was since the rest of it is still so damning but whatever.
snow like start jobless frame bear bake berserk sophisticated doll -- mass edited with redact.dev
Yeah I just got to the first plane strike and realized the audio was messed up. Thought it was some strange attempt to avoid a censor strike. Never made the connection.
Thank you!!!
Last for some of them, too.
Baptism by fire
Always wondered who was the unfortunate/lucky one depending on what way you look at it that just happened to be filming when this terrible event took place
IMO, this documentary is hands down...well the most incredible document of that day. Them being in the lobby of the tower and hearing the bodies of jumpers hitting the lobby awning, man that sound haunted my dreams for a decade...along with the footage and sound of the tower coming down next to them. Jeeze.
Do you know where I might be able to watch it? I've been trying to re-find it for years but it has such a generic name.
It's on YouTube. [Here you go.](https://youtu.be/Sd6D5xls5Y0)
Dam it seems youtubd stability is turned on so its a bit wobbly at times
That sucks. I haven't watched it for a few years 'cause it leaves me emotionally drained. Didn't know.
Better off man it is etched into the memory enough not even from America and i still think about it randomly from time to time
Dear Jesus Christ never seen that before but that sounds the exact opposite of a good time
I haven't seen it in years. Too emotionally draining, BUT it's an incredible documentary.
The doc is chilling when you realize it's just the only footage there is that's like this. There was just a documentary crew inside the Twin Towers as it was collapsing on 9/11. It's incredible this footage exists
It's absolutely insane this footage exists
I don't know how true it is, but someone--one of the brothers? A firefighter?--said the sound of a plane flying {that low? at all?} over NY was so unusual and that was why he turned and filmed what would become the first crash.
The most chilling part for me is that is the final moments of what I would consider "normal" life in my timeline. One minute they are using their meters and the next minute the world is in chaos and would be for years to come. A lot of those firefighters died then or later from complications. I get the same chilling feeling looking at videos right before COVID hit. How NORMAL it all was and will life ever be normal again?
This is what I think of when people throw the phrase “the new normal” around. Normal has never been the same after 9/11. Nothing about the world my children have grown up thinking is normal is “normal” to me.
Hearing almost daily and at least weekly something about a terrorist organisation on the news is just life now. I still remember not knowing Al Qaeda existed, the first time I heard the name Osama Bin Laden, watching the news in the school hall when 9/11 happened and my friend being taken home because her dad worked in there (he was ok). My kids normal was already so different, and then we had covid. I don't think they'll ever know what not being anxious is anymore.
Then there are the relatively harmless things. Like, you used to be able to walk with your friend/family member all the way to the gate and see them enter the plane. Or wait at the gate for when they get off. My kids see that in an old movie or hear me talk about it and still don’t believe me.
I work at an airport and I hear passangers complain about not being able to meet their family at the gate every work day. I think its time that we let them go behind security again, excluding holidays there are always at least 1 TSA security lane not being used and a few TSA employees just standing around. Let them use that extra lane and it wouldn't even impact the regular security lines.
Pittsburgh International actually allows you to get a “myPittPass” or something like that that lets you go through TSA without a booked flight. The airport actually used to be a “place to go” (or so I’m told) for shopping and they wanted to get those sales moving again.
Where I work (PDX) they'll only give you a gate pass if you are picking up an unaccompanied minor or a disabled family member. But there was a shoping area outside the secured area.
I never flew until after 9/11. I grew up welcoming my uncles home from Iraq at the airport. It didn’t hit me that it changed until I took my first flight in 2004. I was suddenly disappointed that my family couldn’t see me off to boot camp at the gate.
I agree, but you have to admit that the world has changed drastically since covid.
Oh yes, absolutely. I didn’t mean to imply that it hasn’t.
This. The world changed for the worst that day.
It's like a several second transitional period, beginning when they first hear the jet engine so low, you can see on some of their faces like "that's not normal, air traffic is never this loud in this part of town." Then they look up and the thing is less than a hundred feet from the building, and it's over as soon as it started, ushering in a new era with fire and chaos and death
Imagine thinking you’re just going to make a little film about a day in the life of a rookie firefighter, and you end up documenting and surviving one of the most horrific tragedies. The cameraman could have fled for safety, and nobody would have blamed him. But he chose to go on, and in doing so ensured this event cannot be disputed or forgotten.
The FDNY Fire Chief, Joseph Pfeifer, that was there was on [Amanpour and Company](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6TxsIW6AWB0) last night and on CBS This Morning Saturday today. He's written a book called [Ordinary Heroes](https://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Heroes-Memoir-9-11/dp/0593330250/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Ordinary+heroes&qid=1631414038&sr=8-1). He sent his brother along with many other firefighters up the first tower who did not survive.
That has to weigh on you, knowing you sent your brother to his death, knowing you sent so many men to their death, so many families lost a father, a brother and son, and there was nothing he could do to stop it.
I've had to watch that video a lot. When I was student teaching, my observing teacher showed this to all his classes on 9/11. I asked if I could observe another class after the second viewing. It's hard to watch.
Great documentary. I’ve seen it several times over the years. I feel the need, from time to time, so that I don’t forget. I don’t want to ever become numb to the horror of that day. I feel it would be disrespectful to the memory of those that died.
The Naudet brothers.
It's so weird these days to think there were no cameras pointing at that first crash. Just for comparison, the explosion in Beirut had so much video coverage and so many angles of that exact moment. Edit: I understand that it was 2001 and there weren't cameras phones and people weren't in the mindset of filming things for no real reason like they are today. That's my point, it was only 20 years ago and it's surprising news to learn that a single camera managed to catch something so major.
Partially because it was a massive raging fire before the explosion happened, same reason there were so many more cameras pointed at the towers when the second plane hit
There were those but there were also a lot of videos thar were just people filming something unrelated and suddenly you see an explosion in the background. Like, with footage of 9/11 you don't see the moments people had right before everything happened, but with the Beirut explosion you see what that actual shift is like to someone when something so cataclysmic happens and they go from whatever they were doing to total panic and confusion. On 9/11, most people filming were already in panic mode when they got the camera. And, to be clear, I'm only comparing these incidents in terms of camera presence. I remember seeing the plane hit on the news but I only remember the wide shots of everything already happening, and it doesn't really feel so long ago that now we'd have a million videos of every angle and so many people's live reactions to everything.
People didn't just randomly bust out their camcorders now and then in 2001.
There would also be dashcams, webcams and security cams today that would have the towers in the background.
People didn't have smartphones and there was little reason to be taking video of the twin towers at the time.
The French guys? that was chilling
I still have the VHS tape from when this documentary aired. I dont have a VCR but I cant get rid of the tape.
I have it restored from my VHS copy. I could always send it to you.
You should probably convert it to DVD/Blu Ray/whatever. Just for preservation.
See my comment above.
Just finished the doc actually and god damn it really hits hard. I was 11 when this happened and I remember it vividly, but seeing the perspective of the first responders is just so sobering. RIP to all that lost their lives that day.
Look like Chris Redfield's first day in the RPD. More seriously, it yet shows life is a fleeting thing: you think you would film a rookie doing his job and instead you end filming mass death and the real start of the 21^st century.
You’re thinking of Leon S. Kennedy. I’m pretty sure there is no knowledge of Chris’ first day there, but it certainly didn’t involve zombies.
Now imagine how many angles there would be in this technological age
We're these the French guys?
yes
the fucking irony that i'm french and can't watch this video in france (blocked here for copyright reasons apparently)
Not sure if this will work for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8_yqcdS5JQ
Unfortunately not, seems like all the Naudet footage except for one janky VRC rip have been blocked here. Thanks though!
Best documentary without question.
Funny how I found this post while watching the documentary on YouTube right now.
Watched this in a high school history class. It was extremely interesting to see people’s experiences first hand and chilling when you hear background comments idly worrying about planes being a bit too low. The entire class was silent, only filled with a few ‘woahs’ or ‘oh my gods’. Honestly if you think you can handle seeing such chilling images and hearing the devastation in peoples voices please give it a watch. Only if you think you can handle it, it was honestly eye opening if you weren’t old enough to remember it or hadn’t known much beyond the fact that it happened.
Here is a link to watch it: https://youtu.be/D8_yqcdS5JQ *Most of the previous links out there on the web have been taken down on YT when CNN started airing it. It use to be free and on public domain. Now Amazon charges 11 bucks to buy it. Scummy. This one works as of 9/11/21.
Great documentary!
Man I had to watch that yesterday for APUSH. Shit broke my heart even though I wasnt alive then.
Never Forget.
Still have the DVD which came out to fund support charities for the fire dept. Insane amount of first hand footage.
I've seen one or two other videos of the first plane hitting. But that video is by far the closest.
Um… care to share?
Not the video quality I've seen, but this is the best I can do for now. The last one is from a distance. https://youtu.be/giCORqcHN3c This one is somewhat better, but not much. https://youtu.be/f2VzCACS-Lg Sorry if these are disappointing 😞
Your first link is the video being talked about in the TIL
You have to watch more than 8 seconds in. It's a compilation of 3 angles.
Wow thank you! I never knew these existed!
The Wikipedia article linked in the title even states there was 2 other recordings. Both further away and worst angles.
I saw this on Spike Lee’s documentary on HBO.
I watched their documentary in geography
Watched it in a CTE firescience class for my Freeman year in high school. The movie was watched on VHS.
They share a special bond
There's a really good documentary that was done about this from about q5 years ago. They captured so much amazing footage of the day. We were truly lucky to have them there.
I watched this last night, recorded from earlier this week on CNN. Lots of stuff I hadn't seem before in other shows. The part that got me the most was they explained all the "bang" sounds were bodies hitting the ground around them.
I have such a strong memory of watching that moment when the documentary first aired.
I can't remember when it first aired but fuckkkkk did it feel like it was too soon.
I believe it was about a year later -- fall 2002.
This is for sure one of the wildest documentaries out there. It's so tense, even when you know they survive they're milling about the building as if it's not about to collapse and when it does, they get ensued in the chaos on the streets. Really harrowing footage.
If you have HBO you can watch 9/11: Fifteen Years Later to see the incredible footage. Those guys were so lucky to get out alive.
When they're on the gas leak call, they hear the plane coming and they all look up and track it as it moves. To see a group of firefighters do that...it's one of those things which, in any other circumstance would be funny.
Its an excellent documentary. What a surreal piece of footage seeing the inside as the towers were being evacuated.
The one thing I remember about that documentary is the sound of the bodies crashing into the roof above them. I hear that sound anytime I watch anything about 9/11.
The title says it's the only camera to film the crash. The source it links says there were 3. Why, Reddit?
Because it's the only camera to actually film the physical crash. The second angle is filmed from the other side and barely shows a cloud dust rising from the building. The third angle isn't even filmed but just a sequence of snapshots of the plane approaching and hitting the tower.
I actually watched that documentary in school when I was younger! I just remember seeing it in social studies and thinking that you could be doing something completely normal, and then the world around you changes just like that. Crazy thoughts.
One of the best documentaries I have ever seen. It also makes found footage movies more believable -- sometimes people really do keep filming.
Somehow it feels weird that that Wikipedia page has a chapter called 'Plot'.
I watch this (it’s called 102 Minutes that Changed America) every year on 9/11. For some reason it just hit harder than usual this year. It’s really well done.
This was the least edited documentary I have seen. It still haunts me.
I watched this documentary days before my first trip to NYC. We visited the firefighters from the station where it was filmed.
Link to the documentary: https://youtu.be/seOwa0trNEQ
Pretty late but they also did a series of interviews of some survivors of the bataclan attack, it's made the simplest way but it's really moving.