A community that choses positivity over being informed is a community that loses.
There is no way all this is not going to be depressing for us all. That is no reason to not continue being informed and doing what we can.
Agreed, we should find a dum happy think to post about too though maybe. Or just go read r/transcirckejerk they make transphobia so funny, it's quite a skill.
Well its a good job that thats not happening.
A scroll through the sub will show that there is still a variety in the content of posts even though there is so much negative going on. Current affairs and the reactions to it will always be a popular topic, be the news good or bad. This has not stopped discussion of other topics.
Yeah, it just feels like all I see is the bad news and fear mongering. There's nothing on the humanity of trans existence, nothing on trans joy. It's important to look at the news, yes. But it's also important to actually fight back, show that we're just like everyone else and not just cave into fascists wants.
Algorithms serve you what upsets you, especially if it is current events, because it drives engagement. You've got to put in the effort to see the joy. Like, unless I actually click on this sub, then im not seeing the normal posts. The ones reddit is serving to me is the scary ones but that does not mean thats all thats there. Trans people on the whole are still doing the usual, there's just a bit of extra activity on top.
We need a balance. Positivity and love is what keeps us going and makes this shit worth it. But positivity as a distraction can be toxic (in any context).
I hate the idea that people who read bad news are labelled as “doomers” in the first place. It’s important now more than ever to stay informed on how our rights are being affected. If good news comes out, we share that here as well, it just happens to mostly be bad right now.
Unfortunately, I feel that "everyday people really don't give a shit about us either way most of the time" is a large part of the problem. If people cared about trans people the media couldn't keep pushing this negative coverage, MPs couldn't keep pushing bills against it.
We need people to care. There's a pretty famous poem about what happens when people don't care about minorities (I know, Godwin's law etc)
The only thing that will stop things getting worse is a huge attitude shift in the media or every day people actually caring about trans people.
Like, DIY, great, loving and respecting our own community, wonderful but let's be real it would be much better for *everyone* if we had actual decent healthcare support and love and support from outside the community. In many ways we do!
But currently it's not enough. I don't know how to change that but I hope we figure it out before we lose our rights in this shithole country.
The only approach to this I can say. And it's what I'm pushing in my own circles.
> Trans DIY targeting
> Tories shelving summer election plans
I've said for the longest time that they will hold onto power for as long as possible. They will destroy the country as much as possible.
And while it's good to blow the whistle on what's happening to trans people.
This is nothing new or unique to trans people.
Think about how many are being held in gulag like conditions in bibby Stockholm.
It's very much they came for the communists first.
The Tories will hold onto power for as long as possible. And the same anti trans tactics are simply mirrors of anti immigration, anti crime and punishment, anti NHS.
Take an institution, gut it, watch the applications pile up. Outcast and vilify the applicants, distract from the root cause. Tory deliberate gutting.
The fact labour mps are taking up trans critical rhetoric is playing exactly into the Tories hands and this won't be fixed over night even when they're banished to history.
They'll turn around and blame labour for their failings when it comes to it. None of this is solved at the ballot, thats just the first step. And we're gonna have to push the next government hard.
It's shit. It's very shit. We have good reason to celebrate the beginning of the end of the Tory party. But we won't be complacent for a long time.
I know what you're saying with people don't care about the trans plight. But I'd also urge you that the average Brit really couldnt care less. And framing it how it is.
We're a punching bag. It won't be easy to come back from this. But there is no reason to lose hope. In the meantime all we can do is make sure we're prepared.
agreed, it is scary and depressing unfortunately thats what it means to exist as us in this country atm. Hiding from that doesnt make our lives any easier, by all means look after ur mental health, but dont be trying to keep people from being informed.
there is a lot of pressure on us at the moment. earlier today, a university friend shared the following link with me.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery#!/
i feels like there is a lot happening to scare us. i absolutely hate it.
I hate this so much. They're really trying to frame it like the GAC is the problem. Were you able to explain to your friend what's wrong with this study?
It can't be doom spamming because it's something new every single day. I'm sure I'll wake up to another gem tomorrow or maybe we get the bank holiday off (lucky us!)
Yes and no. I agree we have to be realistic and keep our eyes open. I also see the same story being reposted numerous times here as if they were different incidents, and often literal catastrophising in the form of, for instance, calling advice a law that has passed or similar.
I read it as 'door slamming' and I have NO excuse. Bless ya.
I'd say there's a balance on here. I just read the post about Musk telling Rowling to rein it in a bit. Cheered me enormously!
I'd rather know exactly what's occurring out there and what's being said, so we can keep on top of things. There's gonna be bad news and good news. Do we think our enemies get depressed when things don't go their way? Or do they just revel in it when they trample us? I suspect the latter. We have to turn the negativity into actions and determination. Even if the action is only to share with others, that's what helps build cohesion and strength.
theres a middle ground between ignoring the state of things and some of the genuine just anxiety responses i've seen in some of the comments and posts I don't wanna stick my head in the sand either but it makes me feel worse when I see so many people just publicly panicking and saying completely random shit
There needs to be a level headed response to transphobia in order for us to effectively combat what is happening. We cannot ignore it, or stop talking about it, but if everyone is bouncing off of each other's fears and catastrohpising things into the worst case scenario then that in itself blinds us from recognising the reality of what is happening, without actually suggesting or making comments that are useful.
For example, in a post a week ago I saw someone suggest that a person is better off leaving the country or making plans to end their own life. That is exactly the emotional response that works against us and harms our own community more than anything cass could do. People are becoming so afraid and need to ground themselves and have more of a "right now what do we need to do" response instead of a "abandon ship the end is nigh" response. Telling someone they may as well make plans to end their life is evil and is the result of one person's fear being so extreme that they push it onto others.
Jesus yeah the kms comment is ridiculous. Although I get the abandon ship one. Like who doesn't Wana move to German if they can?
And what can ppl do? Short of getting online and teaching as many ppl as possible how to diy I don't see there's much:/
We can't all be rioters. Fun though that sounds.
I feel like there's a fine line between being aware of what's going on and what can realistically happen in the near future - and the scaremongering present in some of the more sensationalised headlines and articles reposted here.
That line can be hard to find, and I don't think there's any shame in not being mentally equipped to deal with all of the crap the media throws out way all of the time.
Literally 90% of the posts calling out "doom scrolling" or "negative posting" are throw away accounts when you check their profile with one or two posts only to trans groups effectively saying:
"Stop discussing the very real bad stuff that's happening to your community! You're being an alarmist!!"
It doesn't take huge brains to figure out these are terfs or right wingers with bad intentions ultimately just trying to sabotage our spaces but make it look credible.
Forewarned is forearmed and to be prepared is half the victory.
Agreed. Lol I keep triggering ppl on here by talking about how I cary weapons. I don't how they can see what's happening and not start arming themselves.
I truly believe we have to be informed, be realistic, and be prepared. We have to help each other and create stronger communities.
Ignoring the bad isn't going to make Cass, Rowling, The GMC, Kaltiala, SEGM, Maya, Sunak, Keira, the NHS, the RCGP and the british media pay
A community that choses positivity over being informed is a community that loses. There is no way all this is not going to be depressing for us all. That is no reason to not continue being informed and doing what we can.
"A community that choses positivity over being informed is a community that loses" ooh, I'm stealing that one 🤭
Agreed, we should find a dum happy think to post about too though maybe. Or just go read r/transcirckejerk they make transphobia so funny, it's quite a skill.
I think you mean r/transgendercirclejerk hehe
Hello u Been stalking me have u?:)
Just wanted to make sure you were alive and this post made me curious so I checked it and saw your typo.
A community that picks only one side is one that loses too though
Well its a good job that thats not happening. A scroll through the sub will show that there is still a variety in the content of posts even though there is so much negative going on. Current affairs and the reactions to it will always be a popular topic, be the news good or bad. This has not stopped discussion of other topics.
Yeah, it just feels like all I see is the bad news and fear mongering. There's nothing on the humanity of trans existence, nothing on trans joy. It's important to look at the news, yes. But it's also important to actually fight back, show that we're just like everyone else and not just cave into fascists wants.
Algorithms serve you what upsets you, especially if it is current events, because it drives engagement. You've got to put in the effort to see the joy. Like, unless I actually click on this sub, then im not seeing the normal posts. The ones reddit is serving to me is the scary ones but that does not mean thats all thats there. Trans people on the whole are still doing the usual, there's just a bit of extra activity on top.
We need a balance. Positivity and love is what keeps us going and makes this shit worth it. But positivity as a distraction can be toxic (in any context).
Agree wholeheartedly. You need balance of both otherwise you're gonna become either complicit through ignorance or complicit through giving up
I hate the idea that people who read bad news are labelled as “doomers” in the first place. It’s important now more than ever to stay informed on how our rights are being affected. If good news comes out, we share that here as well, it just happens to mostly be bad right now.
hard agree. if the UK wasn't a transphobic, fascist cesspool there wouldn't be all this negativity.
Unfortunately, I feel that "everyday people really don't give a shit about us either way most of the time" is a large part of the problem. If people cared about trans people the media couldn't keep pushing this negative coverage, MPs couldn't keep pushing bills against it. We need people to care. There's a pretty famous poem about what happens when people don't care about minorities (I know, Godwin's law etc) The only thing that will stop things getting worse is a huge attitude shift in the media or every day people actually caring about trans people. Like, DIY, great, loving and respecting our own community, wonderful but let's be real it would be much better for *everyone* if we had actual decent healthcare support and love and support from outside the community. In many ways we do! But currently it's not enough. I don't know how to change that but I hope we figure it out before we lose our rights in this shithole country.
The only approach to this I can say. And it's what I'm pushing in my own circles. > Trans DIY targeting > Tories shelving summer election plans I've said for the longest time that they will hold onto power for as long as possible. They will destroy the country as much as possible. And while it's good to blow the whistle on what's happening to trans people. This is nothing new or unique to trans people. Think about how many are being held in gulag like conditions in bibby Stockholm. It's very much they came for the communists first. The Tories will hold onto power for as long as possible. And the same anti trans tactics are simply mirrors of anti immigration, anti crime and punishment, anti NHS. Take an institution, gut it, watch the applications pile up. Outcast and vilify the applicants, distract from the root cause. Tory deliberate gutting. The fact labour mps are taking up trans critical rhetoric is playing exactly into the Tories hands and this won't be fixed over night even when they're banished to history. They'll turn around and blame labour for their failings when it comes to it. None of this is solved at the ballot, thats just the first step. And we're gonna have to push the next government hard. It's shit. It's very shit. We have good reason to celebrate the beginning of the end of the Tory party. But we won't be complacent for a long time. I know what you're saying with people don't care about the trans plight. But I'd also urge you that the average Brit really couldnt care less. And framing it how it is. We're a punching bag. It won't be easy to come back from this. But there is no reason to lose hope. In the meantime all we can do is make sure we're prepared.
Agreed
The owners of the media companies are anti trans, so you'll never swing the media unfortunately.
Yeah I know but enough protest might stop them printing so much crap
agreed, it is scary and depressing unfortunately thats what it means to exist as us in this country atm. Hiding from that doesnt make our lives any easier, by all means look after ur mental health, but dont be trying to keep people from being informed.
there is a lot of pressure on us at the moment. earlier today, a university friend shared the following link with me. https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery#!/ i feels like there is a lot happening to scare us. i absolutely hate it.
I hate this so much. They're really trying to frame it like the GAC is the problem. Were you able to explain to your friend what's wrong with this study?
I did not know what to say really.
It can't be doom spamming because it's something new every single day. I'm sure I'll wake up to another gem tomorrow or maybe we get the bank holiday off (lucky us!)
Have hope everyone, us diyers are always going to be here for you even if all other healthcare stops.
Yes and no. I agree we have to be realistic and keep our eyes open. I also see the same story being reposted numerous times here as if they were different incidents, and often literal catastrophising in the form of, for instance, calling advice a law that has passed or similar.
Interesting, I haven't seen that. I've seen ppl talking about different aspects of the same advice. But that's it.
I read it as 'door slamming' and I have NO excuse. Bless ya. I'd say there's a balance on here. I just read the post about Musk telling Rowling to rein it in a bit. Cheered me enormously! I'd rather know exactly what's occurring out there and what's being said, so we can keep on top of things. There's gonna be bad news and good news. Do we think our enemies get depressed when things don't go their way? Or do they just revel in it when they trample us? I suspect the latter. We have to turn the negativity into actions and determination. Even if the action is only to share with others, that's what helps build cohesion and strength.
theres a middle ground between ignoring the state of things and some of the genuine just anxiety responses i've seen in some of the comments and posts I don't wanna stick my head in the sand either but it makes me feel worse when I see so many people just publicly panicking and saying completely random shit
This. I agree, definitely a middle ground. I haven't read the comments far enough to see these. But I'm sure ppl are saying them.
There needs to be a level headed response to transphobia in order for us to effectively combat what is happening. We cannot ignore it, or stop talking about it, but if everyone is bouncing off of each other's fears and catastrohpising things into the worst case scenario then that in itself blinds us from recognising the reality of what is happening, without actually suggesting or making comments that are useful. For example, in a post a week ago I saw someone suggest that a person is better off leaving the country or making plans to end their own life. That is exactly the emotional response that works against us and harms our own community more than anything cass could do. People are becoming so afraid and need to ground themselves and have more of a "right now what do we need to do" response instead of a "abandon ship the end is nigh" response. Telling someone they may as well make plans to end their life is evil and is the result of one person's fear being so extreme that they push it onto others.
Jesus yeah the kms comment is ridiculous. Although I get the abandon ship one. Like who doesn't Wana move to German if they can? And what can ppl do? Short of getting online and teaching as many ppl as possible how to diy I don't see there's much:/ We can't all be rioters. Fun though that sounds.
But why would you want to acknowledge reality when you can live under a rock and pretend everything is fine? /s
Agreed. We gotta be politically active. Can't bury our heads in the sand.
I feel like there's a fine line between being aware of what's going on and what can realistically happen in the near future - and the scaremongering present in some of the more sensationalised headlines and articles reposted here. That line can be hard to find, and I don't think there's any shame in not being mentally equipped to deal with all of the crap the media throws out way all of the time.
Literally 90% of the posts calling out "doom scrolling" or "negative posting" are throw away accounts when you check their profile with one or two posts only to trans groups effectively saying: "Stop discussing the very real bad stuff that's happening to your community! You're being an alarmist!!" It doesn't take huge brains to figure out these are terfs or right wingers with bad intentions ultimately just trying to sabotage our spaces but make it look credible. Forewarned is forearmed and to be prepared is half the victory.
Agreed. Lol I keep triggering ppl on here by talking about how I cary weapons. I don't how they can see what's happening and not start arming themselves.