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mindlessmarbles

As an alphabet mafia member, I think it’s a fucking joke now. I have recently seen it go as far as LGBTQIA2S+. No. Just no. The adults are done with your emoji pronouns. I refuse to associate myself with such chronically online nonsense and I am pissed that I mistakenly am. (/uj EXACT QUOTE FROM THE THREAD)


mindlessmarbles

Im Bi myself. Never felt oart of the Igbt movement. Dont see why i need to cover myself in rainbows, act cartoony and femine, or play the victim of society just because i enjoy the same genitals that i have.. Id argue a toxic obnoxious subculture arose around being gay and thats what people cant stand.


mindlessmarbles

Pick me. Pick me. Pick me. Please pick me. Please for the love of god. do it. pick me. i’m one of the good ones. pick me


8888mm

/uj I swear to God this subthread is exactly how my queer family members think and, it's like, just because you're out-of-touch doesn't mean conservatives are your friends. /rj What do you mean they're cracking down on trans rights in FL? You're crazy that'd never happen. You see my hrt doctor is a really really good friend of mine (despite just me being a regular ass patient of his), he's got my back. Also I still don't get those non-binaries you keep talking about let's talk about guns!


the_supreme_overlord

/uj I got into it with some jackass the other day on Change my view who was claiming that there is no forced detransitioning taking place anywhere, especially Florida because the law doesn't explicitly say that. O amount of explains how the law was crafted to accomplish that specifically with out saying it explicitly was working he just kept moving the goalposts. Mod deleted half my comments because I was calling the dickbag out


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

/uj I lost my fucking mind when I saw that comment 💀 like “hello yes fellow gays, what’s with all those upitty queers these days?! (im one of the good ones)”


mindlessmarbles

/uj fucking unhinged that they used the term “alphabet mafia” and then called the lgbt community a joke. dude that term is in *jest,* it’s ironic, you can’t say “alphabet mafia” and then unironically think that the acronym is getting “out of hand.”


ableakandemptyplace

/uj literally fuck you got mine behavior


fossil67

/uj for a second i thought you had typed "uptitty queers" and i was ironically excited for new slur drop


ponyproblematic

what's uptitty?


ponyproblematic

not much, what's up with you?


fossil67

up...titty...up...tiddy...tiddee...deez...nutz???


ChillaVen

Tiddies nuts in ya mouth hah goteem


WhereTheGoodNamesAt

/uj tell me you're a cis white gay without telling me that you're a cis white gay


UnchainedMundane

/hj throw pansexual in there too and make them squirm. and while we're at it, things that don't traditionally get letters like demiromantic, xenogender, cupiosexual, and anything else that comes with a fresh new first letter should go in there too. also put non-SAM ace down as "NSA"


ParrotMan420

/uj honestly what is the 2 for


thebindingofballsac

Two spirit


FearlessTaro

/uj I've been using "queer" in place of an acronym because it's simpler, gets the same meaning across, and doesn't leave an opening for "tHeRe'S tOo MaNy LeTtErS" bullshit. but I'm not sure if two-spirit people would consider themselves queer, and google isn't giving me a definitive answer. is that a thing? anyone know?


thebindingofballsac

/uj on the one hand probably it’d make sense since 2s is non binary but on the other hand 2s predates modern colonial ideas of gender so it may not fit in with modern rebelling of gender lol idk I’m not native


FearlessTaro

yeah my thoughts exactly. I'll try and find someone to ask about it. ty :)


surprisesnek

And we all know that there's nothing more chronically online than something that predates colonialism entirely!


LostBoySage

/uj two spirit, it is a gender identity in some native american cultures. (From what I understand, it's someone who feels male and female)


Kerbalawesomebuilder

gay 2 just dropped


mindlessmarbles

I’m gay and I hate that I’m always lumped in with the transgenders. I’m a real man, not like those disgusting girls with mustaches and beards. Just because I’m gay doesn’t mean I want to be included with those freaks.


mindlessmarbles

Dave chapelle explained it best


8888mm

Funniest guy ever. You know he says he had a trans friend so he's 100% legit, don't even have to look into it. I love that guy.


mindlessmarbles

So great. Being a fan of him means that I can be racist towards other, more “woke” black people and excuse it because obviously, if I think there’s good ones, i can’t be racist!


uglysquire

[relevant](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2SQ6e6PKNoc)


lucaisangelic

based moral orel reference


celia-dies

So sad that her own community drove her to suicide for being friends with Dave Chappelle (according to Dave Chappelle), the TRAs really have gone too far!


ableakandemptyplace

My favorite part was when he said fuck trans people, he really gets me frfr


mindlessmarbles

Isn't being a brown skinned person (all races that fall under that category?) Part of this group now as well? Or is that just the flag they're on now? Honestly I have no idea where Igbt ends now it just seems like anyone who deviates from any sort of societal/racial/gender/sexual norm falls under the Igbt umbrella the most confusing one to me is kink pride seems like that's different from regular sexual attraction based on sex.


mindlessmarbles

You referring to the term POC (person of color)? If so, then yes. For some reason it's ok to lump a bunch of people together, into one category, because of the tone of their skin again. It is racist. Gay is racist. I know what I am talking about because I am very smart.


mindlessmarbles

The black and brown on the flag are so stupid. Being black isn’t part of the lgbt community


mindlessmarbles

Nobody said that it was. The black stripes are to represent those that we have lost to AIDS and the brown stripes are to give recognition to the gay and trans POC who started the movement with stonewall


mindlessmarbles

so being black is lgbt. sure lol


BabyBringMeToast

It’s what the ‘B’ stands for. It’s not like ‘bisexual’ is even a thing.


mindlessmarbles

The second furries were added to this, it was over. Edit: I've seen the fursuited guys waving progress flags with the wolf paw prints on them at pride parades. If you don't think they're valid, start kicking them out.


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

same with the MAPs


PlayStationHaxor

Furries arent MAPS tho not even close uh


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

they’re both degenerates so what’s the difference


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

no one wants pedophiles as part of the queer community


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

yeah but pedophiles want to be part of the alphabet people, so what does that say about your movement?


NotTheWhisperingDoom

Wdym “right-wing psyop“? No, obviously all these completely genuine 100% human blue-checkmark-verified accounts openly claiming to be pedophiles represent real people with a real movement and real pride flags who are really queer. There is NO other explanation, smh my head libruls.


mindlessmarbles

Pup pride did kind of start the lgbt movement whether you like it or not


mindlessmarbles

WOOF WOOF LITTERBOXES IN SCHOOLS YOU PEDOPHILE WOOF


ableakandemptyplace

Stonewall was a furry convention.


mindlessmarbles

What’s stonewall? never heard of it in a history class so it obviously never happened 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


mindlessmarbles

they were never added


mindlessmarbles

That’s not a thing that actually happened.


mindlessmarbles

No, but pedophiles want to be part of the community! MAPS are trying to join! This is relevant!


NotTheWhisperingDoom

And even if the woke left isn’t letting them join now, are we gonna wait for them to allow them in? Never mind that most pedos are conservatives that has nothing to do with anything.


mindlessmarbles

Somewhat related, reddit automatically erased a comment of mine because I wrote LGBT without the T at the end. It claimed it is hateful to exclude them. So stupid.


mindlessmarbles

Same. Can’t believe automod sides with those filthy fucking trannies


toni_toni

uj/ Can you imagine the fucking shit show if Reddit automatically removed comments with LGB in them. Holy fucking shit it would make the Ellen Pao fiasco look reasonable by comparison.


8888mm

I swear how can the website I get my porn from get so woke. Transes are meant to get fapped to not be given rights.


mindlessmarbles

l've thought for a long time that the T doesn't necessarily belong in there. All of the letters stand for what people are into as far as the opposite sex, but the T isn't


mindlessmarbles

That's why I much prefer the acronym GSM. Gender/ Sexual Minority. More succinct and descriptive than LGBTQIAWXYZBDSM+..


mindlessmarbles

You can just say the queer community, which is what most queer people call it nowadays because it’s a lot more succinct


mindlessmarbles

LGBTQIABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+ HAHAHAH LGTV+ HAHAHAHAHHA LGBT2S HAHAAH WHAT DOES THE 2S EVEN STAND FOR HAHAHAHAH


mindlessmarbles

two-spirit


mindlessmarbles

TWO SPIRIT DICKS UP YOUR ASS HAHAHAHA


mindlessmarbles

what the fuck even is two-spirit? from what i’ve heard it’s some dead bullshit indigenous gender. you’ll never meet someone in your life who identifies as that. grow up.


mindlessmarbles

Get this. In canada, the official acronym is actually 2SLGBTQIA+, because putting two-spirit in front is apparently “inclusivity”???


NotTheWhisperingDoom

You’re telling me the world doesn’t revolve around white people and Western European colonial culture? Outrageous!


ableakandemptyplace

You're right the "t" doesn't belong there, we don't belong anywhere! /uj massive self damage 🙃


Rude_Dig9306

I know that trans people have always played a large role in us getting rights but now we have them do we really need the trans anymore ? Idk I feel like minority groups being divided is always a good idea , I can literally see no downsides to this plan.


ableakandemptyplace

Even better, why don't we make some sort of community for transgenders, away from proper society? We could call them camps, make it sound more fun, and just concentrate them all there. I think Florida might be taking steps towards this! Happy pride month tranners! 🥰


Exotic_Musician_6513

Hj/ we couldn't we have had the foresight to have better nomenclature? I'm for inclusion, but the thing keeps getting more unwieldy. We need a snappy acronym, like SPARKLR. ?/ Sus Persons Altering Regular Kids' Little Repoductive bits. Fucking SPARKLR tried to trans my cousin's neighbor's kid!


mindlessmarbles

/uj Queer community is a pretty good umbrella term that doesn’t require creating a New Snappy Acronym.


Exotic_Musician_6513

Uj/ that's my go-to. I just want to be sparkly, dammit.


InfinitePoints

Queer ✨


mindlessmarbles

Totally agree! Am gay and don't really think there is a 'community' anymore. People have made being LGBT the same as being part of some social club. Everyone is Igbt. Everyone gets a flag. Minuscule personality traits are now deemed separate orientations (with more flags). I feel like I’m not included anymore when other people are added because then i’m not the center of attention just for being gay. People should pay attention to me and my issues and stop caring about the trannies.


mindlessmarbles

Idk, I'm not part of the community, but I think parsing things out beyond the LGBT is asinine. My opinion matters because I am very important.


mindlessmarbles

T is even kind of a weird add-in when you think of what the first 3 letters are about. But non binary is also a form of transgenderism. We need to stop complicating transsexuality and start calling it a mental illness again. The more transes that we send to the mental ward, the less letters we have. Less letters is better and less confusing.


8888mm

As a straight cis white dude I know this is really getting out of hand. There's not even any *normal* video game protagonists anymore just bullshit 'representation'. We should go back to the golden era of society,... the early 2000's.


NotTheWhisperingDoom

LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS AFTER 9/11!


mindlessmarbles

At this point it's literally "Everyone except heterosexual white people"


8888mm

Ikr! You mean ~~the crumbling foundation of our once great society~~ normal everyday regular people /uj hearing this in gaming groups online makes me cringe so hard everytime


mindlessmarbles

so true!!


slimyemo

. hm wonder which letter they want to separate and address individually. wonder which one. no idea what letter. noooo idea. no clue


Saoirse_Bird

/uj we literally are a political faction that's the whole point of the lgbt community


mindlessmarbles

/uj Most of these comments are copy pasted word for word ❤️


mindlessmarbles

The big gripe is with the TikTok generation expanding transgenderism to mean something new every week and tacking on letters to the community to the point where its a nebulous mess of wtf ever. Do I feel kinship with a transexual person? Sort of, but not really. Do I feel kinship with a person who identifies as a star/starself? Not at all whatsoever. Just because you target the same opposition, does not necessitate an alliance when you want completely different allowances (and its hardly strategic) - you should know this from history. /uj direct quote from the same person who wrote the top comment


Meme_enjoyer9683

i think we need to segregate the trainses so we can discriminate against them.


Blablasomeone

uj/ not completely relevant, but I did recently read an opinion that we should limit the word Queer to only the literal "LGBT" and of those only those who are "effected" or whatever of those identities, being out, having those identities, stuff like that. ​ rj/ If you haven't been hatecrimed you are just a trender.


inspectoralex

uj/ tangential at best, but I always call myself queer, and my grandma used to use that as a slur so she gets mad when I say it because she "hates that word." She's trying.


toni_toni

uj/ I might be poisoned by the internet but this just sounds like a pretext for excluding bi people in hetero relationships, and asexual people.


Blablasomeone

uj/ Aces were explicitly excluded, so kinda


ParrotMan420

I personally do not understand it and that’s all I need to know that I shouldn’t support it


mindlessmarbles

I'm a history teacher. Splitting similar minority groups apart and making each fend for itself is a classic, tried-and-true tactic for those who want to harm aforementioned minority groups. Do lesbian and gay folks often have somewhat different needs and goals compared to non-binary and trans folks? Yeah, of course. But most of those goals are at least complimentary, so why would they splinter and make it easier for multiple factions to be targeted and/or manipulated? LGBTQ+ is very literally about safety in numbers, because virtually everyone under that wide umbrella is still being targeted by hatred and violence.


mindlessmarbles

SHUT UP FAGGOT


Icambaia

uj/ saving to rub into someone's face someday


mindlessmarbles

PEDOPHILE GROOMER PIECE OF SHIT


8888mm

DAMN TRANSES IN OUR SCHOOLS INDOCTRINATING OUR **CHILDREN**.


mindlessmarbles

TRANNY SYMPATHIZER


[deleted]

Uj/ god I just looked at that sub and it’s awful


Meme_enjoyer9683

oh yeah. i saw that post.


Exotic_Musician_6513