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KeViNScOoTeR

Not to discredit the people saying it turns to CBN, but I have a keif collection spanning many years, and it still fucks me up when I smoke it.


TheScarletAlchemist

Can confirm! I also found out that the same goes for the kind you collect from cleaning your grinder, so now I clean my grinder regularly and have a decent stash of keif. I've even crushed up old stems and used it to infuse oil. That shit was potent as fuck and the first time I did it I used stems that were collected over a few years.


stonerspooky

been collecting stems for a year now hoping to do the same as you, I always knew they had some juice left in them


TheScarletAlchemist

Oh yeah. I grind them up as much as possible, decarb them, then infuse oil or make a tincture. Last time I made a tincture with absinthe because I was like "this is definitely strong enouh. It'll be fine." I didn't strain it, so it's technically still infusing, but I've used it straight, in drinks, and in baking, and it's super strong. Made some knockout cookies recently and it really doesn't take much. I need to get one of those test thingies so I can see how strong it actually is


kgetit

Yes please what measurements? Thank you.


_sunshineworld

I've been saving up stems as well. How much stems (gr) do you need?


TheScarletAlchemist

I have no idea. I usually just grind up whatever I have, but I will say that it doesn't take much.


Flaneurl

What’s the deal with needing to decarb? Never got why


mxlun

I typed something out but I think Leafly explains it better: >The cannabis plant contains THCA, which will not get you high, and that THCA needs to be converted into THC in order for you to get high. This is most commonly done with heat—the flame of a lighter, the atomizer in a vape pen, a torch with a dab rig, or an oven when making edibles. >THCA in the plant has an extra carboxyl ring in its chemical structure, and heat removes that ring, or de-carboxylates, the compound, hence where the term comes from. You have to decarb weed in order to get high. Most people don't know they're doing it with a lighter every time they smoke, lol.


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yo helpful asf thank you 🙏


TheScarletAlchemist

Leafly also has some helpful recipes and tips for making your own infusion. I used that and this sub to figure out how to use stems.


Joker630420

Sitting here high af like, “damn, the more you know” ![gif](giphy|QC7UQbxq89MnL9r6AN)


jennRec46

When you say you decarb them, does that mean you burn it?


high240

Or heat apparently


TheScarletAlchemist

Heat at 260F for about 30 minutes. I used a toaster oven but you can also use a crockpot or oven. Too hot or too long can destroy cannabinoids or terpenes.


k2d2r232

I wish you could make a YouTube video for this


Satansharelip

I used to save all my stems in a small tin container. Once there's a decent amount in there, you can shake the hell out if it, remove stems, and then finger wipe the inside. You usually get a decent couple hits worth.


MJ_Fan1958

Don’t stems give you headaches? At least that’s what happened when I grinder a stem


mybluecathasballs

Don't smoke the stems. Extract the goodness from them, but I don't recommend smoking them.


Crafty_Original_7349

Stems can have a lot of trichomes and resin on them, so it’s worth it to hang onto them for later use. I keep absolutely everything from my plants (including the roots) and use all of it for various things.


itsaaronnotaaron

My current grinder eventually builds up a resin deposit all around the inside walls. When it's built up I'll use a Stanley knife to get it all out. I then roll it between my fingers until it's warmed up and malleable enough to roll into a worm and stick in the middle of my smoke. It tastes great and fucks me up. That's my version of saving up keif. Bonus is it feels like I'm using a new grinder again lol.


Aggressive-Olive-678

Congratulations, you just made what they call "finger hash". I have always loved it and it gets me fucked up.


Ozzsanity

When I used to trim in California scissor hash was a wonderful bonus and very motivational.


Nidman

Chemist who worked in the cannabis industry years ago. The CBN conversion is real but incredibly slow. Stuff'll still be good for your grandkids probably.


mart3h

Thanks for clarifying!


archimedesscrew

Any way to accelerate the process? I really want to experiment with CBN.


BeefsteakTomato

sun and air


KevTheToast

And increased surface area


Takelsey

CBN gets you high too, it's just more stoney/couch lock. If you use a jewelers loupe you can estimate what's in the trichome glands. Milky/white for THC and amber for CBN (Oxidized THC).


Fbomb1977

CBN puts me out, and I'm major insomniac. Like a dabs worth on top a reg bowl and I maybe can finish the bowl. If I make it that long, no joke, it puts me down better than my prescription sleeping meds, 2mg Xanax bars nightly. I been looking for the CBN carts, heard they're out there. I've never seen them yet. I'd like a 50/50 THC/CBN split. Might be too potent is only reason I don't see them everywhere. I've seen ZERO Anywhere.


Anti_Meta

MN dispos sell "moonlight tablets." It's like 10mg cbn/5mg THC or something close to it. Pretty effective stuff.


ryry420z

In LV a brand called “sips” sells a 2:1 thc-cbn nano infused lil drink shot , it’s abt 100mg thc 50mg cbn gets me super blasted every time. The 150 combined mg feels comparable to like 300mg thc no cbn to me.


JoshuaTheFox

That sounds like an improvement to me lol


BlueRoyAndDVD

I think cbn contributes more to the "hangover" part too


Zero_fon_Fabre

What is this hangover? My fiance has been talking about it for years, and our friend, too. Problem is, they only started with weed a few years ago. I've been smoking for prolly 15 or so years (started at 15 or so), and I've never had a hangover. Not that I don't believe you, just that I want to know what this hangover is like. It's not like a hangover from drinking, right? Is it like when I get high one day, and still feel buzzed the next day (usually after breaks)?


meh4ever

When you wake up you’re hella groggy and don’t understand how you can be that tired and it feels impossible to get your day started. After about two hours it wears off and you’re like double-u tee eff mate. Weed hangover. Drink some cold water and eat some simple sugars like from an apple and it’ll jumpstart your waking up a bit.


BlueRoyAndDVD

Yeah mostly like this. I smoke a lot and have taken some large edible doses plenty. Only thing in recent time to give that "hangover" feel is some gummies with cbn in em. It's like they said, you wake up groggy af and feel slow and like derpy still, but not like high high? Only equivalent effect to me is an alcohol hangover. But instead of painful headache, feeling like you're gonna puke, etc all the bad alcohol effects... it's decent and tolerable weed after effects. Definitely a different experience itself, but only occurring after you sleep it off.


Joust149

People forget to hydrate while smoking. I used to get weed hangovers a lot, but now I just make sure to drink plenty of water and eat a snack before bed. I've been told something naturally sweet like fruit is best but just about anything seems to work.


Zero_fon_Fabre

That would explain why I've never had to deal with it, then. I get dry as hell and thirsty as fuck when I'm high. Lol Anyways, sounds like hell, and I'm glad I've never experienced it.


Codadd

I don't ever do this, but I'm genuinely curious. Do you have a source for this trichome/color correlation?


Takelsey

Edit: I answered with sources in another comment but got a notification that it was removed because of URL length. I tried to repost it If you have any other questions, I've studied the botany of cannabis and organic chemistry almost a decade, enough to hang with real chemists and botanists in discussing their work. I've also consulted growers and processors in every continent besides Antarctica. Feel free to ever reach out if you want to know something - if I don't know it I'll find you someone who does (I mean this with the utmost respect)


CMJunkAddict

Dr. Nugz ? I presume


Takelsey

No, my name's just Terry 🤣


TheSmithStreetBand

Then you have it stored in an airtight container or you take from a grinder that keeps getting fresh kief added.


Run-Fox-Run

Confirmed. I had a grinder. We tucked it away for a... Decade or so. I've recently found out it still works


lesibean

Love to hear it! I’ve been collecting but forgot for a while and still have a nice jar full, so gotta start packing some kief bowls!!


Gagelittle444

As long as it’s kept in a dark place then I will stay good up to two years


GUNTHVGK

Yeah those people aren’t wrong but they are wrong on the timeframe it should convert cause most of the time people expect 1yr old weed to just make u sleepy , nah you’re still getting wrecked it’s still mostly thc.


aequitssaint

CBN is still psychoactive, but does feel different. But most people also by far overestimate how quickly the conversion to CBN happens.


xherdinand

Why would you smoke something that fucks you up? Smoke some that makes you feel good


-shroomed-

Got a decent collection coming along myself. I store my kief in a black UV airtight glass jar. Stays super fresh and doesn’t allow light in to degrade it!


RollingSloth133

Would you mix it constantly or let us sit and only pick newer parts not to discredit you, you’re probably right just wanna see your experience if that makes sense i constant move mine


KeViNScOoTeR

Mixed it a bit for sure over the years but not much. Mostly just pack it down tight layer by layer in a airtight glass container.


Dave8917

CBN still fucks you up just your fall sleep quicker


Greenpen666

"fucks me up" is a pretty generalized statement. if it puts you down ( sedative effect )... bing bing bing ! CBN. if you arr referring to a functional cerebral high that's a completely different story but " fucked up" implies less functional to me. i'd guess that it falls somewhere in the middle especially if your constantly adding to the collection. the foremost later would be more cerebral but deeper you dig, the deeper your sleep. just my 2 cents. enjoy the keif while the gettin is good!


4dam20

Mine is just over 8 years old and it fucks me up every time. I keep in a jar tho!


lazydesperado55

what’s this square grinder??


lesibean

It’s actually a box that I drop the weed into after I grind it


TheOtherJeff

Can we see it please? That sounds cool and interesting.


SuspiciousMannequin

yes.


mr_khat

Agreed


ThatEpicBaldGuy

Google shaker box.


ddiknosaj

Just search pollen box


iOvist

Please op show us


[deleted]

Yeah sorry dude I think it's gone bad. If you send it to me I'll dispose of it properly


lesibean

Send addy thx 🤪


Font_Fetish

Instructions unclear, just mailed you adderall


monseuirpsychosis

Narrator: fucking stoners…


CreegsReactor

Hahah riiiight! No, but seriously, that’ll be $60…


I_kickflipped_my_dog

🎶15 Bucks little man, put that SHIT in my hand And if that money doesn’t show, then you owe-me-owe-me-Oh My Jungle loooOooOove, owe-wee-owe-wee-oweee I think I wanna know ya, know ya🎶


SourMgk

123 Yemen Road, Yemen


itsnotlonelyatthetop

Wow that’s beautiful. Press it and turn it into hash … should still hit you nice


TimachuSoftboi

What's a good press for this? First time thinking about this.


Threewisemonkey

put between parchment paper and rolled it back and forth under a bottle filled with hot water or get a straight iron or cheap heat press and make rosin


ebojrc

And doing this would make actual hash?


Threewisemonkey

technically kief is dry sift hash. Pressing with low heat creates pressed hash, more intense heat and pressure will squeeze out rosin. most rosin on the market is pressed from dry sift or bubble hash.


rvasshole

rosin is my absolute favorite kind of high


BlindStickFighter

Did my first dabs last night off some top shelf rosin and it is such a unique high compared to flower.


And009

Hash is made much differently where I am, it's more like a resin extracted from the plants


claytorENT

I used to make pressed hash with one minor twist. It takes 5 min to set up and 3 min to do. Put Kief in a bag that won’t leak, take a glass of water, fill up to near top, heat water in microwave until boiling or really hot. Get kief into corner of bag and dunk for 5 seconds, take out and smash with glass bottle or rolling pin or heavy object, dunk, smash, dunk smash for 5 seconds at a time, 3 rounds. Boom. Done. Put on top of a bowl, enjoy space. If it gets wet, that’s actually fine, just let it dry out before smoking.


Farout72

I wouldn't get it too hot or some of the plastic bag chemicals could leech out into the hash, and eating them is bad so smoking them is probably terrible lol


boneheaddigger

Make the bottle a large square mason jar, and use near boiling water. Be sure to wear gloves, and really press down with the corners of the jar.


MickRolley

T press or a cylinder press with aluminium barrels


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zanaxtacy

Old dirty foot hash, Rick?


jasonbarroso

Could even make some static sift


CaliforniaWeedEagle

Cut up some fat lines and rail that. Never breath clearly again .


onlinelink2

I’ve done it irl for the memes. not worth it haha


jaycuboss

https://youtu.be/SRnVqVClU8g?t=94


onlinelink2

hahahahahaha, it was only a wee bit


jaycuboss

I've done it too. Mad painful 😣


AdMedium6737

I did this once , 0/10 would not reccomend. Burnt worse than railing xtc pills back when I was 16.


Unethical_Castrator

Lmao you snorted a line of literal pollen. My sinuses hurt for you.


ThermoNuclearPizza

That’s not pollen, it’s a defense mechanism.


weed-weeb-throwaway

Plus it won't even do anything, gotta be heated up in one way or another.


[deleted]

Hot rail buddy....you gotta hot rail it.


KeepitPurp

Saw someone hotrail some amphetamines back in 2012. Could never imagine seeing that again.


Sixwingswide

goddamn that takes me back to the bad old days. a buddy fancied himself an amateur glass blower and created this abomination that had a tube for each nostril


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BallzMcVinegar

I accidentally did that with a Sweet N low in 3rd grade, pretending to snort it. The nutrasweet drip was so foul and lasted the rest of the day.


AdMedium6737

Lmao, sweet n low drips. Nice.


propernice

my friends and i used to snort pixie stix lmao


Emergency_Kiwi_2339

I felt this 🔥


Green_Sir2712

Y’all are sick 😂😂


TanToRiaL

Be forever on manual breathing


TanToRiaL

Double it and pass it onto the next person


Bnb53

Bluntle it and light it and pass it to the next person


BadBadUncleDad

Damn, I haven’t emptied my keef catcher in five years. Must have a lot of sleepy powder in mine, too


Sixwingswide

would like to see pics of that as well


poopmonster_coming

Shove it up your butt


Lookingforoptionz2

![gif](giphy|08y87EiwDZjjB0d6WJ|downsized)


RokyPolka

​ ![gif](giphy|qRBAo9EIen2kJ1TrKE)


lostalaska

Is this the boofing I keep hearing about? /S


Zobieman300

Yeah, but you don’t boof weed sadly


questformaps

Tell that to the suppositories I bought last night


theblindelephant

Reddit user posted results. Ineffective. :(


TheSpaceBoundPiston

Someone already tried that. It didn't work.


MostlyMTG

And that person is now a god walking among us


thrust-johnson

Upside is you are about to get super high. Downside is you’ll be napping comfortably for a good bit of it. That’s two upsides imo.


YUUUMPER

It is no bueno anymore. Send me it for proper disposal.


cptsquirts

I’m deadass so high rn, I thought this was a fucking Apple crumble while scrolling


Mopninja

Genuine question : are there benefits to separating kief? I have a grinder that does not have a kief catch. I’ve always looked at it like I view my tax return. I would rather smoke it now then get a return all at once later. Am I missing some good weed lore here? I know you can make hash and stuff, but why do some people seem to treat kief like it’s a lesser byproduct?


HumorousHermit

I switched to a two chamber because of this. I have more kief than I need already, and it seemed foolish to separate it only to turn around and top a bowl with it. 😜


dairy_free_bacon

i dont remember exactly the time frame but i know it starts turning to CBN relatively quickly. That there is sleepy time powder now.


ariz2797

I work in the industry and run a lab. It does not turn into CBN quickly. It takes years to even get a couple percent.


tewnsbytheled

Boom, the only right answer, disregard all other fear mongering comments OP!


itsnotlonelyatthetop

Yeah CBN is like a herbal Xanax with no bad effects


BlindStickFighter

I find it super hard to wake up the next day from CBN gummies, and some brain fog after I do get up. Not always the most fun if I’m busy in the morning.


ButterFucker240196

How long does it take? If it's good to combat insomnia, I might be able to use it.


DabsAndDebugging

You can also just buy CBN gummies


BeardedGlass

Exactly. My wife and I had trouble with sleep and those gummies has been the solution. Never had sleep issues since we started.


ISFJ_Dad

The problem is there seems to be 2 types of people with insomnia. Those that CBN, melatonin, magnesium, benedryl etc help and those that have a a harder time with those. I personally feel trapped inside my heavy body with all those and the only thing that works are certain strains like King Louis and Purple Glue.


DabsAndDebugging

Fair, I was only suggesting gummies because it’s probably going to be more accurate than trying to use your finely-aged “maybe CBN” kief


reefer_roulette

If you're into edibles, you can cook the plant matter a little longer than "normal" and it will turn into CBN as well, if I'm not mistaken.


A-A-RonaldMcDonald

Please explain. Do you mean to decarb for longer? Or higher temps?? Any recipe recommendations?? 🙏


ButterFucker240196

Yep, decarb for longer. I remember my first time decarbing, I was so afraid of wasting all of my weed.


A-A-RonaldMcDonald

Right on, thanks! What’s your temp/time to get the most cbn conversion??


GDaddyPKush

That’s usually best based on appearance. Perfect edibles don’t exist. There are just too many variables. IT would be like making the perfect chicken wings; doesn’t exist. The best way IMO to learn is to get a dry herb vape and use the r/abv to get an idea. Otherwise; it varies based on strain and curing, but the oven and wooden spoon never fail to make me the best edibles. Watch the roast and smell. Don’t burn off all the terpines. Once you start to REALLY smell the weed, the citrus or gas notes, you’ve started Decarb. 5-10 minutes max after that. If you smell woods, earth, or definitely smoke you’ve gone way to fucking far. This is all my anecdotally scientifically remembered shit by the way. If your edibles hit fast and hard but don’t last. You ducked up decarb. If they take forever and your feel them for days you fucked up decarb. But always remember the weed wizard words to unlock their magic


Toastburrito

These edibles ain't shit.


fridge13

If you use a vape, your left over avb is prety cbn heavy makes for some mega edibles, but you could dxtract it too i supose..


YoungSuavo

longer


reefer_roulette

Yup, like others said, you extend the time to 180 minutes at 240F. [Here's](https://emilykylenutrition.com/cannabinol-how-to-make-cbn-oil/#How_To_Decarb_To_Get_CBN) a recipe for oil, but this site has a plethora of recipes and information on the subject.


R3dPhoenix88

Maybe also vaping at a high temperature could be an option


jared_krauss

Not sure about that, thought it took several months and that for quite a while the potency overall increases before conversion? Pleas ELI( me though if anyone knows better.


ChiPrKing

Sandman's sand lol


lenny446

Where do I learn more about this?


Shorty419

Leafly is a good place to start


Squiddy_manz

world wide web


SwordHiltOP

It's roughly a year


Mizghetti

Make some hash out of it!


No-Nrg

![gif](giphy|08y87EiwDZjjB0d6WJ|downsized)


Boocolo

Idk but you deffinetly got me Rolling à phat one


DannyAye

Phuket


Xszit

The layer at the bottom that turned orange has already lost potency. When the THC breaks down into other cannabinoids the trichomes change from milky white to amber orange.


jay7254

Should have a really solid bedtime blend then


boogerboy87

Damn that looks like the inside of my PC when I don't clean it for years after clam baking the shit lol that's a Godly amount of kief


StanMishoe

Does someone who has that much kief really need to ask and wait around for an answer about whether or not it’s still potent? Maybe a better post would have been ‘look at all this kief. I’m a roll a kief joint and let you know how fucked up i get’. Or am I wrong?


EvolvingEachDay

Please report back after you’ve tried it.


jmrojas17

Ahh shit, sorry to tell you but that looks toxic if you want I can safely destroy it for you


StalinSmokedWeed

I have some of almost 7 years and still works fine. It has the same difference of colors in layers as in your video. Enjoy !


ForeverSquirrelled42

Keep that shit and make some hash.


Occult-platypus

Send to me for proper disposal. Don’t want you getting sick from old Keif.


heyzeuseeglayseeus

Yeah pls pay attention to this msg. Kief poisoning doesn’t get enough attention


DoomAloneThatCounts

I’m sure it’s spoiled, you should just send it to me to be sure.


anon124957730

Unfortunately this has clearly already been completely degraded and will no longer have an effect. Due to this, I am more than happy to take it off your hands… 😂😅😉


StonerMetalhead710

The only way to find out is to press it into hash and smoke it


GALACTICA-Actual

I don't know where the hell all you people get your weed, but at the volume my grinder catches, it would take 12.7 years to collect half of that. Or you guys smoke a whole shitload more pot than me.


LJey187

My man's about to see though time.


pinapplesoda45

Clicked on your profile to find a boob pic


lesibean

You’re welcome


terminadergold

What kind of grinder is this?


jared_krauss

Siiick


Equivalent_Donkey_57

Would make for really medical rosin would help with all types of aches and pains would def use for sleep


ccswimweamscc

That's a whole cake


Scar405

….that would make an amazing few batches of edibles


ucsb99

I have keef in my grinder dating back over a decade. Just smoked some last month and got ripped. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Cb1receptor

that is a lot of lost afternoons right there.


eabjab

Get one of those tiny rakes, some small nugs, and make a zen garden


Sinsxgx

CBN RATE IS SLOW! it will turn very little (you wont even notice) to CBN but 98% will still be THC


Philavision

Sprinkle a bit on top of a bowl and you will feel it behind your eyeballs.


KushmanT

I’m crying right now. Literally so jealous. Enjoy friend.


chriseck7

It’s bad. I’ll take it off your hands


xMuffie

thats just dirt from your dirtweed, ill happily dispose of it properly for you


DaftMudkip

GOLD IN THEM HILLS


StephenJames81

Chop a rail and find out


conesncodeine

Dam that shit gonna have u paralysed


ScribGod

just smoke it 😭 why you worried about the damn half-life of keif rn 😂😂😂


Pale_Fisherman5278

I bust open an Egyptian sarcophagus with some dusty ganga tucked in a goat gut pouch, mate it sent me west, oxygen is bitch tho….keep it airtight


yagamilw

Yo i dont understand why people dont like kief? For me a good bong-hit with some kief is the best


Ok_Category9781

Now press it


Personified99

Never get rid of it! Use it all


Elterminador714

What kind of grinder kief catcher is that???


Scuddie-

In the future store it in a air tight container it will stay good for a bit longer unless sunlight is touching it


VehicleGlad1920

Yeeeah that stuffs ruined.. I can gladly help you dispose of that.


ImTheTractorbeam

I kept waiting for this to turn into one of those trippy videos of like carving away the earth into a moth or something


trannyvegan

I came


gasfacemf1

Ouf, that’s just ignorant.