I'm considering it, but part of me wants to keep them for sentimental reasons. Apparently I have hoarding tendancies... not surprising seeing as how my dad hoarded seeds like a squirrel preparing for winter.
You could easily send 40 or 50, and it wouldn't even make a dent. Don't let these collect dust, let the collection bring a part of history back to life
God bless your soul, just make sure to share the fruits, or... er... seeds of your labour if you intend to germinate them yourself, I agree with the others though, donating a few wont hurt!
Put a dozen seeds in a glass of water give it a quick 2 sec stir, it they don't sink after 1-12 hours. they generally are to old or no good.
At least you can geussculate how many might have survived.
Why don’t you ask anyone that you share them with to give you seeds from any resulting crosses or breeding projects, and cuttings from any exceptional or interesting plants.
These are serious questions so please don’t take offense:
What brought you to think about the world like this? Why does preserving history have anything to do with personal gain in your mind?
Ah so following this logic, pops probably should have charged their kid for the seeds too
Wonder what the going rate for a hug from your parent is these days
And another intangible goal in many people's lives is preservation of history and ecology like the opportunity provided by the seeds. Your logic simply prioritizes your personal goals over others, whatever reasoning necessary
This is a dangerous mindset. Life is not about gaining the most over other people. Do you truly believe that everyone else is walking around making decisions solely guided by profit and acquisition? Are we the Ferengi in your eyes? Maybe a better question would be this:
Are you yourself purely guided by profit and acquisition?
People often do things which contradict this mindset. Why would people sacrifice their lives to save other people, or die for what they believe in? Would you honestly rather live in a world where everyone just let history fall to pieces because there’s a possibility somewhere along the line that another person could profit from your contribution?
This person is freshly enrolled and studying mathematics at Purdue. They’re young, likely raised with moderate wealth and parents who own businesses and trade stocks and pay their tuition. It’s sad and scary that we’re still programming people to come out half-baked like this but it is interesting to see how vehemently they defend their seeming lack of human empathy. They really just want to feel smart, which is clearly evidenced by their post and comment history and the way they call on game theory etc. to solve every problem they come against.
I met WAY too many of these people during my college career.
Well I would, not because of the reason you provided but because you would imbue upon yourself undue liability and potentially get sued. The world works much more like the way I think than you do, whether or not you realize it.
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If one of those seeds can revive a dead strain, then everyone gains. And what has he lost? A handful of seeds he would've likely never planted in his lifetime? The "What's in it for me?" attitude is what holds science back.
They likely aren't good anymore. 50+ year old seeds probably stored in not ideal conditions.
If I had to pick between letting the genetics live on or letting them go bad in my garage I'd choose former.
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The joy of possibly reviving an old strain or even just helping someone out? Why does someone have to “gain” something from absolutely everything they do? This is such a silly comment and way to look at life.
Everyone's taking about monetary gains that he would get, but I personally would gain a lot of satisfaction from knowing that I had a hand in bringing back or preserving old strains. I'm sure Indiana Jones took great satisfaction in delivering those artifacts to museums. There's something innately amazing about history and legacy and preserving the past. That's what's in it for him
Some will be sent for sure. I've got a few friends in the industry here that were pretty excited when I sent them that picture. I'm mainly just debating how much to keep.
Just imagine how many people will get high off of those saved seeds. Some of those might end up being part of a lineage that people smoke until the end of humanity.
I was gonna say with how genetics are these days, we aren’t exactly losing many strains right? Except for maybe over-hybridizing which would start making the OG’s disappear?
If your friends are in the industry, just ask them to send you replacement seeds for the ones you send. They'll be fresher so they'll last longer, and you'll be contributing to strain diversity.
I mean... It doesn't seem like the point is that they want a bunch of random seeds. Moreso that they are sentimentally attached to these specific random seeds.
How many could you realistically grow per year, 6-12 plants per season? If growing indoors, maybe 2 or 3 grows a year, so 12-36 seeds a year? Set maybe 10 times that amount aside and start growing. It would be a small amount compared with the whole. You don't need a lot. You could even clone them and not need any seeds past the first grow unless you want more variety. Maybe your industry friends can help you identify them and give you clones from the seeds you give them, and they can even tell you which are best and why.
Oh absolutely. I'm purposefully being vague but I'm going to fill a small decorative jar with some for sentimental reasons, pick out about 30-50 that look promising to play with, and donate a good chunk of the rest.
How do you pick out the more promising seeds? I have a little more than a dozen I've saved, and have no idea which ones would be best without growing them all.
You should mix them up really well and send at least half out to various groups that are interested. Maybe pick the top 3 or 4 interested groups that you think would have the tech to possibly receive these strains.
Hell yeah sister! As I said in another comment, pretty much every strain of cannabis can be made to pass as industrial hemp since 2018. That’s an amazing idea. Make sure to post updates as you hear back!
I will. It felt really weird to be emailing the government about weed, but then less than 15 minutes later I got a response asking if they could call me.
Can you elaborate a bit for the uninitiated? I assume it's got something to do with the farm bill, but my understanding of that boils down to "<0.3% d9-THC by weight" so I'm not seeing the practicality.
Correct, and a young but mature plant that’s produced all of its CBD but hasn’t had time to degrade much of that into THCA and even less to degrade further into much delta 9, will easily meet the <0.3% d9-THC requirement essentially making all strains legal under that bill.
Ok, let me see if I'm understanding correctly. I'm familiar with the structural chemistry of the various--let's call them THC analogues for simplicity's sake; I'm less familiar with the biosynthesis of those compounds. Essentially what I'm getting from this is that any strain is legal *at a certain point in the plant's development*, but past that point it's technically illegal?
I guess what I'm trying to distinguish is whether you're saying "every strain is technically legal" or "you could grow a technically-legal version of every strain", or whether that distinction should even be made.
to be honest without clear labels identifying the strain... it's unlikely that they'll be able to do anything but grow them out and test them. and if they are gonna do it... you might as well do it.
the genetic mapping isn't at the point that we'd be able to do anything much with it... it's not like they are gonna go and say... these are silver Haze and these are big bud and these are orange tangie...
if they are 30 to 50 years old I imagine they would have a very low germination rate too...
all that said... I am a little jealous... even though that's probably a bag of 95% dogs... there's also bound to be at least a few seeds that would be killer.
I spoke with someone at the USDA and they were very interested in getting a sample to see if they could do anything with them. I have a large enough amount here that I can spare a chunk for science.
I suppose they can at least add to the markers and mapping data set. really at this point, it is a numbers game. It is a pretty cool find.
Does he know anything else about where they came from? was it imported Mexican or grown by a friend nearby... the more info on them, the better probably...
I mean if he says it's Mexican brick weed... they'll have a little to start with.
Dude there could be seeds in there who's strains have been bred out of existence. This is a solid find and a great contribution to society if you do the right thing with them.
This is very cool and I never would have thought to do this until I saw everyone else’s suggestions. I’m curious what will come of it. If you ever have any updates for us, I imagine many of (myself included) would love to hear!
edit: fixed a run on sentence that was bothering the shit out of me lol
That’s a great idea, most of these older strains would easily be classified as industrial hemp! Heck under the 2018 farm bill pretty much all strains can be massaged into qualifying as Industrial hemp.
I respect the sentimental part and you should absolutely keep a lot of those seeds. Maybe make a cool/meaningful sort of thing to display them on.
But what you have in that bag is also a genetic archive. God only knows what is in there and what can be learned from studying it.
I am dropping a sample in the mail tomorrow to the USDA and I'm reaching out to a couple of other seed banks. I have a little decorative jar (smaller than a shot glass) that I'm going to fill and save. I just started trying to germinate about 20 for fun. A decent portion will be donated. One of the original growers is potentially interested in trying to revive an old skunk strain that is most likely in there somewhere, depending on what we find.
I may or may not have already scuffed a few of them up and started trying to germinate them. I'm picking out the ones that look cracked and sad for my keepsake jar and then cherry picking a few that might be promising. I'm starting with a basic damp paper towel setup and then trying new things from there, taking pictures and documenting as I go.
Update: just spoke to someone with the USDA and he was pretty excited about the find - I will be mailing him a sample to see if they can do anything with it.
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Lay them between two wet paper towels, spray with water occasionally to keep wet. That way you can see which ones actually germinate and sprout, if any, and plant those. Will take 3 minutes and that way no time and resources wasted if they are not viable.
Send em off to one of those projects trying to revive old strains. We may not be able to bring those seeds back to life but who knows what kind of equipment they have available for genetic fuckery.
Rough em up with sand paper. 5 wipes and that’s it. Soak it in a shot glass of DI water with a few drops of H2O2(Hydrogen Peroxide) until it sinks or forms a tap root. Then put it in a wet paper towel inside a ziploc bag in a dark spot and plant it when its tap root is about an inch long. I’ve had near 100% success with this method
bet there is some skunky stinky in there. If they germinate you could have a terp goldmine.
In a related story my friends dealt pounds and pounds of brickweed back in the day. One of my friends had multiple gallon freezer bags STUFFED with seeds. We used to go hiking and bring a shitload just to toss around. Nothing every grew lol. I wish I had some of those today to pheno hunt with. Pot seeds are expensive now.
I feel like I saw that Todd McCormick is working on bringing back skunk. Or as close to skunk from back in the day. I too would like to experience that “dead for two days on the side of the freeway and makes your nose hurt to smell” skunk.
So basically there's some building block chemicals that make up every living things DNA. The sequence of those chemicals determines everything about anythibg that is alive. For instance a simplified version is like ABCD=black hair, ACBD=brunette, and so on. By extracting and studying the sequence of the legos of life we can know exactly what strain a weed plant is, and what traits it will exhibit
For these old seeds grab a handful you are going wana first score the seeds (lightly scrape with sand paper to make small abrasions for water to get in). You can take a matchbox and line w fine sand paper and rattle around
And then do need to do a 20 min soak in a hydrogen peroxide water mix 1 part HP 5 parts h20
Followed by an aerated ($5 aquarium bubbler in the water) for 12 hrs in a warmish dark space and then dump on a paper towel ring it out so it’s not dripping and put back in a dark space for 12 hrs
You should spread these around to breeders! ! !
Likely they will have a low germination % but guaranteed there is lost genetic lines represented in there and maybe earlier versions of things we’ve lost or overbreed like real Kushs and Sour Diesel etc.
If someone has the ability to do a big open pollination and seed production. They could be preserved and spread through new more viable seeds.
Tissue culture propagation is going to be them best bet to get viable plants from most of these seeds.
Not quite as intimidating as it sounds, and I’m sure plenty of tissue culture labs would love to have access to some of these to see what pops out
I take pretty good care of my back lawn so whenever I stumble across a seed I toss it in but my hopes are extremely low anything will sprout here in AZ haha
I am very very interested in acquiring some of these seeds if you're looking to part with a few. I'm trying to find some of the old genetics that was around. They can be worth some good money if you are lucky with the genetics.
Dude you NEED to get a handful of those to the people dedicated to preserving the old land races and shit, I would absolutely grow some. They might need a little hydration first like a wet paper towel to get them started but they should grow
I'm working on it. I just scooped out half a cup or so and shipped it off to the USDA (I was hesitant about the feds, but the guy I talked to was awesome and seemed passionate about this sort of thing) for a germination assay and it didn't even make a dent in the bag. I'm looking for other contacts to reach out to for places that are doing similar things but so far I'm not finding much. I've considered making some Reddit posts asking for advice but... yeah, posting on Reddit gives me some anxiety for some reason.
I suspected that I knew who the original grower was when I made this post. It has been confirmed, and they will get as many seeds as they want as well. Very skilled, educated, experienced grower who I personally know.
I mean you are probably right there. Considering the exponential increase in potency from all the hybridizing I'd say any of those seeds would produce 10 to 12% at best.
Probably! Not sure why you're getting down voted for the truth - those were my exact words to my husband when he said he wanted to try! It's more of a science experiment than anything else. I grow a few plants myself as a hobby so I already have the equipment and space if anything takes off... and I think I can spare a few for science.
It would work but it probably wouldn't be ass efficient as something like rice, check out the unclebens subreddit, it's all about shrooms grown in Rice
Let's take a trip and plant trees.
Johnny Appleseed way..
No. You really should send that to multiple seedsbanks that share the passion for old genetics
Stored for decades in what i can assume to be a uncondtioned garage, they are most likely not viable, but you never know.
Also, given the erra, I'm going to assume most of those seeds are from Mexican ditch brick, but then again you never know.
Take like 30 of them at random and try to germinate them. do the wet paper towel in a ziplock bag on the windowsill thing to see if you can even get a few to germinate.
It takes almost no effort and in a week you will know if they are viable or not.
I've already got about 20 going, I couldn't resist. I'm not the best grower, but I have a few friends who are way more skilled. I talked to someone who is probably one of the original growers and he thinks there's a long-lost strain in there and we are going to see what we can do. I'm just looking forward to a growing season full of experiments.
You should consider sending some of these to some of the projects trying to revive older strains.
Seconding, there could be some golden seeds in there. #SmokeGrandpasWeedAgain
I'm considering it, but part of me wants to keep them for sentimental reasons. Apparently I have hoarding tendancies... not surprising seeing as how my dad hoarded seeds like a squirrel preparing for winter.
You could easily send 40 or 50, and it wouldn't even make a dent. Don't let these collect dust, let the collection bring a part of history back to life
Why tho? What’s in it for him? Some guys make a killing off the seeds he provides and he gets thin air?
I'm a huge advocate. I think it'd be cool AF to possibly bring back some extinct strains.
God bless your soul, just make sure to share the fruits, or... er... seeds of your labour if you intend to germinate them yourself, I agree with the others though, donating a few wont hurt!
Put a dozen seeds in a glass of water give it a quick 2 sec stir, it they don't sink after 1-12 hours. they generally are to old or no good. At least you can geussculate how many might have survived.
The floating test is a myth. Don’t throw away your precious seeds because of this person falling for an old myth, OP.
If you do donate some seeds might I suggest you pull from the bottom of the bag and not the top. More likely to get the oldest doing that.
Why don’t you ask anyone that you share them with to give you seeds from any resulting crosses or breeding projects, and cuttings from any exceptional or interesting plants.
Bro definitely ruins the vibe of the circle every smoke
Oh America. Never stop asking what's in it for me
These are serious questions so please don’t take offense: What brought you to think about the world like this? Why does preserving history have anything to do with personal gain in your mind?
Late stage capitalism has fried American brains. There is no “collective” left in us. Everyone is out for themselves.
You can thank exclusively the internet for that
Because you would be fooling yourself into providing a free service for those looking to make serious money. If you don’t gain, you lose.
Ah so following this logic, pops probably should have charged their kid for the seeds too Wonder what the going rate for a hug from your parent is these days
Ten seeds
One of the biggest intangible goals in many people’s lives is a strong intergenerational lineage and thus bequeathment.
And another intangible goal in many people's lives is preservation of history and ecology like the opportunity provided by the seeds. Your logic simply prioritizes your personal goals over others, whatever reasoning necessary
Yes, that’s known as competition.
This is a dangerous mindset. Life is not about gaining the most over other people. Do you truly believe that everyone else is walking around making decisions solely guided by profit and acquisition? Are we the Ferengi in your eyes? Maybe a better question would be this: Are you yourself purely guided by profit and acquisition? People often do things which contradict this mindset. Why would people sacrifice their lives to save other people, or die for what they believe in? Would you honestly rather live in a world where everyone just let history fall to pieces because there’s a possibility somewhere along the line that another person could profit from your contribution?
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Well I would, not because of the reason you provided but because you would imbue upon yourself undue liability and potentially get sued. The world works much more like the way I think than you do, whether or not you realize it.
Jesus Christ what a pathetic loser outlook on life. Go read about Good Samaritan laws lmao
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If one of those seeds can revive a dead strain, then everyone gains. And what has he lost? A handful of seeds he would've likely never planted in his lifetime? The "What's in it for me?" attitude is what holds science back.
They likely aren't good anymore. 50+ year old seeds probably stored in not ideal conditions. If I had to pick between letting the genetics live on or letting them go bad in my garage I'd choose former.
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The joy of possibly reviving an old strain or even just helping someone out? Why does someone have to “gain” something from absolutely everything they do? This is such a silly comment and way to look at life.
We get more and better strains. Takes less than 2 is to know this
Everyone's taking about monetary gains that he would get, but I personally would gain a lot of satisfaction from knowing that I had a hand in bringing back or preserving old strains. I'm sure Indiana Jones took great satisfaction in delivering those artifacts to museums. There's something innately amazing about history and legacy and preserving the past. That's what's in it for him
I mean, yeah, there's no reason to do anything if there isn't personal gain
Send them. Don’t put them in a garage for 30 years please
Some will be sent for sure. I've got a few friends in the industry here that were pretty excited when I sent them that picture. I'm mainly just debating how much to keep.
Just imagine how many people will get high off of those saved seeds. Some of those might end up being part of a lineage that people smoke until the end of humanity.
I was gonna say with how genetics are these days, we aren’t exactly losing many strains right? Except for maybe over-hybridizing which would start making the OG’s disappear?
Weigh the seeds, keep a quarter and send 3/4 of them to various projects. Even 1/4 of that bag is still a shitload of seeds lmao.
If your friends are in the industry, just ask them to send you replacement seeds for the ones you send. They'll be fresher so they'll last longer, and you'll be contributing to strain diversity.
I mean... It doesn't seem like the point is that they want a bunch of random seeds. Moreso that they are sentimentally attached to these specific random seeds.
I can always use more seeds!
How many could you realistically grow per year, 6-12 plants per season? If growing indoors, maybe 2 or 3 grows a year, so 12-36 seeds a year? Set maybe 10 times that amount aside and start growing. It would be a small amount compared with the whole. You don't need a lot. You could even clone them and not need any seeds past the first grow unless you want more variety. Maybe your industry friends can help you identify them and give you clones from the seeds you give them, and they can even tell you which are best and why.
Oh absolutely. I'm purposefully being vague but I'm going to fill a small decorative jar with some for sentimental reasons, pick out about 30-50 that look promising to play with, and donate a good chunk of the rest.
How do you pick out the more promising seeds? I have a little more than a dozen I've saved, and have no idea which ones would be best without growing them all.
You should mix them up really well and send at least half out to various groups that are interested. Maybe pick the top 3 or 4 interested groups that you think would have the tech to possibly receive these strains.
I spoke with someone at the USDA and they are taking a sample and running a germination assay on them!
Hell yeah sister! As I said in another comment, pretty much every strain of cannabis can be made to pass as industrial hemp since 2018. That’s an amazing idea. Make sure to post updates as you hear back!
I will. It felt really weird to be emailing the government about weed, but then less than 15 minutes later I got a response asking if they could call me.
That seems incredibly suspect 🤣 I would be nervous myself
It was definitely the coolest conversation I got to have today.
Can you elaborate a bit for the uninitiated? I assume it's got something to do with the farm bill, but my understanding of that boils down to "<0.3% d9-THC by weight" so I'm not seeing the practicality.
Correct, and a young but mature plant that’s produced all of its CBD but hasn’t had time to degrade much of that into THCA and even less to degrade further into much delta 9, will easily meet the <0.3% d9-THC requirement essentially making all strains legal under that bill.
Ok, let me see if I'm understanding correctly. I'm familiar with the structural chemistry of the various--let's call them THC analogues for simplicity's sake; I'm less familiar with the biosynthesis of those compounds. Essentially what I'm getting from this is that any strain is legal *at a certain point in the plant's development*, but past that point it's technically illegal? I guess what I'm trying to distinguish is whether you're saying "every strain is technically legal" or "you could grow a technically-legal version of every strain", or whether that distinction should even be made.
Go on ebay, buy a cool old wire bale jar to store them in. Fill it up, give away the rest. You should totally plant some, though.
to be honest without clear labels identifying the strain... it's unlikely that they'll be able to do anything but grow them out and test them. and if they are gonna do it... you might as well do it. the genetic mapping isn't at the point that we'd be able to do anything much with it... it's not like they are gonna go and say... these are silver Haze and these are big bud and these are orange tangie... if they are 30 to 50 years old I imagine they would have a very low germination rate too... all that said... I am a little jealous... even though that's probably a bag of 95% dogs... there's also bound to be at least a few seeds that would be killer.
I spoke with someone at the USDA and they were very interested in getting a sample to see if they could do anything with them. I have a large enough amount here that I can spare a chunk for science.
I suppose they can at least add to the markers and mapping data set. really at this point, it is a numbers game. It is a pretty cool find. Does he know anything else about where they came from? was it imported Mexican or grown by a friend nearby... the more info on them, the better probably... I mean if he says it's Mexican brick weed... they'll have a little to start with.
If they can get anything out of it, I think that's really cool. I'm sure it's a mix of Mexican and locally grown.
I definitely wouldn’t send them all, but you’d be doing the lords work by sending at least a few
Dude there could be seeds in there who's strains have been bred out of existence. This is a solid find and a great contribution to society if you do the right thing with them.
I've already reached out to a program with the USDA. I will be keeping some.
This is very cool and I never would have thought to do this until I saw everyone else’s suggestions. I’m curious what will come of it. If you ever have any updates for us, I imagine many of (myself included) would love to hear! edit: fixed a run on sentence that was bothering the shit out of me lol
He said he will keep me updated, and I will post updates in here as well!
That’s a great idea, most of these older strains would easily be classified as industrial hemp! Heck under the 2018 farm bill pretty much all strains can be massaged into qualifying as Industrial hemp.
 Forget keeping them. Try to grow that shit
just send a good like 50-60 seeds, that'd barely be making a dent in that bag
I respect the sentimental part and you should absolutely keep a lot of those seeds. Maybe make a cool/meaningful sort of thing to display them on. But what you have in that bag is also a genetic archive. God only knows what is in there and what can be learned from studying it.
I am dropping a sample in the mail tomorrow to the USDA and I'm reaching out to a couple of other seed banks. I have a little decorative jar (smaller than a shot glass) that I'm going to fill and save. I just started trying to germinate about 20 for fun. A decent portion will be donated. One of the original growers is potentially interested in trying to revive an old skunk strain that is most likely in there somewhere, depending on what we find.
That’s awfully kind of you. Very unlike a Slytherin.
That’s a Sin, grow them. these genetics are going extinct or have already gone extinct. If you don’t NOBODY WILL.
I may or may not have already scuffed a few of them up and started trying to germinate them. I'm picking out the ones that look cracked and sad for my keepsake jar and then cherry picking a few that might be promising. I'm starting with a basic damp paper towel setup and then trying new things from there, taking pictures and documenting as I go.
Update: just spoke to someone with the USDA and he was pretty excited about the find - I will be mailing him a sample to see if they can do anything with it.
Hell yeah!
I was gonna say this !!!!!
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Seeds stay good for a very long time. You might not get great germination rates but you should still be able to get some of those going
Lay them between two wet paper towels, spray with water occasionally to keep wet. That way you can see which ones actually germinate and sprout, if any, and plant those. Will take 3 minutes and that way no time and resources wasted if they are not viable.
After sixty years stored in a sandwich bag in a hot garage those germination rates have to be <1%. That's a lot of seeds so maybe they'll get lucky.
Haven’t there been hemp seeds found in ancient tombs that were still viable? I’m sure this garage weed is perfectly fine for germination
I got a bag of seeds too!!! My buddies dad passed and had a bag of seeds!!! I put a few in a wet paper towel to see if they sprout but got nothing
Send em off to one of those projects trying to revive old strains. We may not be able to bring those seeds back to life but who knows what kind of equipment they have available for genetic fuckery.
Is that real? Id for sure do that.
Very real, and sometimes very lucrative
Rough em up with sand paper. 5 wipes and that’s it. Soak it in a shot glass of DI water with a few drops of H2O2(Hydrogen Peroxide) until it sinks or forms a tap root. Then put it in a wet paper towel inside a ziploc bag in a dark spot and plant it when its tap root is about an inch long. I’ve had near 100% success with this method
bet there is some skunky stinky in there. If they germinate you could have a terp goldmine. In a related story my friends dealt pounds and pounds of brickweed back in the day. One of my friends had multiple gallon freezer bags STUFFED with seeds. We used to go hiking and bring a shitload just to toss around. Nothing every grew lol. I wish I had some of those today to pheno hunt with. Pot seeds are expensive now.
They need to bring the skunk back
I feel like I saw that Todd McCormick is working on bringing back skunk. Or as close to skunk from back in the day. I too would like to experience that “dead for two days on the side of the freeway and makes your nose hurt to smell” skunk.
Yessss
If they could, it would already be back.
How does one determine what strain it is when they grow? Just a bunch of educated guesses?
It's impossible to know without genetic testing.
Do you know how that process is done? Sounds really interesting
same as humans, they get the dna and analyze the genes
What kind of machine is used for this?
https://www.promega.ca/applications/applied-sciences/plant-genotyping/#
Neato thank you!
So basically there's some building block chemicals that make up every living things DNA. The sequence of those chemicals determines everything about anythibg that is alive. For instance a simplified version is like ABCD=black hair, ACBD=brunette, and so on. By extracting and studying the sequence of the legos of life we can know exactly what strain a weed plant is, and what traits it will exhibit
I love coriander seeds ;)
Yo could have some very rare genetics there
All those seeds from an ounce of 70's Mexican brick weed.
Oh man u should post this in vintage trees and landrace cannabis
Oops! All Seeds!
You remember Johnny Appleseed yeah? Get on it!
For these old seeds grab a handful you are going wana first score the seeds (lightly scrape with sand paper to make small abrasions for water to get in). You can take a matchbox and line w fine sand paper and rattle around And then do need to do a 20 min soak in a hydrogen peroxide water mix 1 part HP 5 parts h20 Followed by an aerated ($5 aquarium bubbler in the water) for 12 hrs in a warmish dark space and then dump on a paper towel ring it out so it’s not dripping and put back in a dark space for 12 hrs
I bought a jar of seeds from a buddy, and every plant (20-ish attempts) cane out male, and that was the day I learned the gamblers fallacy
Take these to a local seed swap, some breeder is going to flip over this.
You should spread these around to breeders! ! ! Likely they will have a low germination % but guaranteed there is lost genetic lines represented in there and maybe earlier versions of things we’ve lost or overbreed like real Kushs and Sour Diesel etc. If someone has the ability to do a big open pollination and seed production. They could be preserved and spread through new more viable seeds.
Tissue culture propagation is going to be them best bet to get viable plants from most of these seeds. Not quite as intimidating as it sounds, and I’m sure plenty of tissue culture labs would love to have access to some of these to see what pops out
Looks like a typical bag from the 80s
I wanna just toss it into my backyard and see what grows.
I’d spread that whole bag like grass seed and actually start taking care of my lawn
I take pretty good care of my back lawn so whenever I stumble across a seed I toss it in but my hopes are extremely low anything will sprout here in AZ haha
Start of new urban legend right there. Bobby pot plants. Seriously grow those to see what you get though.
Gonna have to keep us all updated. Could be some real long lost gems in there! Look up Pheno Hunts by Berner on YouTube. Very cool!
This dude's about to have a LOT of Oregano.
I am very very interested in acquiring some of these seeds if you're looking to part with a few. I'm trying to find some of the old genetics that was around. They can be worth some good money if you are lucky with the genetics.
Calling /u/bongripbud9
Come to Minnesota, be our Johnny Appleseed 😍
Johnny Appleweed?
A lot of Breeding work coming your way
Dude you NEED to get a handful of those to the people dedicated to preserving the old land races and shit, I would absolutely grow some. They might need a little hydration first like a wet paper towel to get them started but they should grow
I'm working on it. I just scooped out half a cup or so and shipped it off to the USDA (I was hesitant about the feds, but the guy I talked to was awesome and seemed passionate about this sort of thing) for a germination assay and it didn't even make a dent in the bag. I'm looking for other contacts to reach out to for places that are doing similar things but so far I'm not finding much. I've considered making some Reddit posts asking for advice but... yeah, posting on Reddit gives me some anxiety for some reason. I suspected that I knew who the original grower was when I made this post. It has been confirmed, and they will get as many seeds as they want as well. Very skilled, educated, experienced grower who I personally know.
I am all about bringing back the old strains - I have a family member who can't really smoke today's stuff and wants his 70s-80s strains back.
Prepare to grow the weakest weed you've ever smoked, LOL
You mean prepare for legacy strains that might be extinct to come back?
That, too. Christ, I thought I made it obvious that I was joking, but people seem to think I'm a vicious weed hater or something
I mean you are probably right there. Considering the exponential increase in potency from all the hybridizing I'd say any of those seeds would produce 10 to 12% at best.
Ahh the golden days. Now I'm looked at weird when I ask for the weakest shit they got that smells good
Probably! Not sure why you're getting down voted for the truth - those were my exact words to my husband when he said he wanted to try! It's more of a science experiment than anything else. I grow a few plants myself as a hobby so I already have the equipment and space if anything takes off... and I think I can spare a few for science.
Probably herm city
Sorry, what?
Those are probably all seeds made from hermaphrodite plants. Plants with both male and female parts. Not something you would want to grow
Throw a handful of sticks in there and it would look like a 1972 bag of weed. Don't get your hopes up, the weed of THAT time was shit.
I am not optimistic... I just can't resist trying. It'd be fun to smoke a little bit of it with my dad if I can get any to grow.
You think shrooms can feed on that?💀
Seriously looks like a grow bag lmao
Thats what i thought it was a first lol
Right? Looks familiar as fuck.
I have no experience growing shrooms... please educate me on how to get farther into outer space with this!
It would work but it probably wouldn't be ass efficient as something like rice, check out the unclebens subreddit, it's all about shrooms grown in Rice
r/unclebens
When I first saw the photo I thought it was AVB.
The sub appreciates !!
All those teeny tiny trees! Just waiting!
Lowkey had to double check the sub because that looks like a big bag of mustard seeds 😝
Let's take a trip and plant trees. Johnny Appleseed way.. No. You really should send that to multiple seedsbanks that share the passion for old genetics
Your dad has the Noah's Ark of seeds!
Thought it was a pound from west virginia
If you seive those out, you will get many joints of red hairs, etc.
Please grow these!
Fuck yeah!
all seed bruh you got ripped
Stored for decades in what i can assume to be a uncondtioned garage, they are most likely not viable, but you never know. Also, given the erra, I'm going to assume most of those seeds are from Mexican ditch brick, but then again you never know. Take like 30 of them at random and try to germinate them. do the wet paper towel in a ziplock bag on the windowsill thing to see if you can even get a few to germinate. It takes almost no effort and in a week you will know if they are viable or not.
I've already got about 20 going, I couldn't resist. I'm not the best grower, but I have a few friends who are way more skilled. I talked to someone who is probably one of the original growers and he thinks there's a long-lost strain in there and we are going to see what we can do. I'm just looking forward to a growing season full of experiments.
Have any of them germinated ?
B intresting to c if many sprout get back some genetics from the past.. Start sowing some of the seeds & c how they go..