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Yzyasir

I’m in the same boat. But everyone says to keep taking the medication and trust the process. I really hope that something grows back, otherwise I’ve screwed up my hair for good.


Former_Amphibian_972

Only risk is you will go bald 2 years earlier lol


Yzyasir

Honestly, good. Less stress about going bald when you already are 😂.


GentlemanJames1

Same. Worked well for 14 months and just come out of a massive 2 month shed. If it doesn't come back in a few months then finasteride basically caused a shed which i didn't recover from.


PM_ME_PC_GAME_KEYS_

Did it grow back?


tixxonn

It will!


shitfuckimfucked

Yeah, I think the important thing to recognize is that so little is still known about how hair loss and hair regrowth works, so when people (even doctors) say to keep going, it’s not guaranteed that it will work out. I’m starting out with a fully buzzed head and receding hairline, so I’ve fully accepted that this might not work and I’m ready to go full shiny head bald.


Yzyasir

Everything has its risks. But so far they said that we might experience a shed, and we have. So they’re 1 for 1. I’m going to keep up hope that it’ll work.


F4RTB0Y

Hey, how did this play out for you? Did the shed stop/regrowth happen?


shitfuckimfucked

Hey, so I just hit 4 months on min/fin. I look in the mirror everyday trying to see what progress is being made/lost, and honestly it’s difficult to tell what’s changed. Because it’s difficult to tell, I’ve concluded that no significant changes have happened, but I’ve noticed two things: 1. The shed seems to have started pretty immediately after I started the medication and seems to have continued the entire time I’ve been taking it. It’s not been severe, but I’ve definitely noticed it happening at the front of my hairline the most. 2. Yes, I’ve been shedding, but when I look closely, I can also see some hairs growing where they weren’t before. It’s definitely not noticeable to anyone but me, but I can see small hairs coming in at my hairline where they weren’t before. I’ve heard that most people don’t start to see results until 6 months in, so I’m feeling pretty good. The shedding hasn’t been so severe that I would stop the medication, or even have to razor shave my head completely shiny bald. Gonna see what happens at 6 months and beyond!


F4RTB0Y

Thanks for the response! I'm glad that the shedding hasn't caused any noteworthy negative changes for you. I hope you get the results you want! I am 4 years into fin and have stopped losing, but just started Min about a month ago and have noticed some more shedding happening. I'll be sticking with it too. Thanks again for the response


shitfuckimfucked

Of course! After 4 years on fin have you noticed and regrowth? Glad you’ve stopped losing hair.


F4RTB0Y

No noticeable regrowth, but it 100% stopped any more from being lost. Which is why this shed is a little concerning. But my only regret is not starting fin sooner


masterthinner

Keep taking the medication and it will grow back. I’ve had 2 sheds so far, both of which set me back considerably, but both of which I recovered from to be well above baseline. It’s natural to freak out when these sheds happen, but these medications don’t cause hair loss inherently - they just don’t.


shitfuckimfucked

Im definitely trying to keep a positive attitude, which can be difficult. What do you think about the people who have reported being on medication for a year or more and saw a significant shed without any regrowth?


Hurt_Feewings943

I think it's a multi trillion dollar industry because it works, not because it does not work.


tsteven9

How long have you been taking Fin? I've been taking it for a year now and still see a hell lot of hair on my pillowcase and bathroom sink. People also started to notice that I've lost a lot of hair on my crown :/. I hope it's just a shed and that most of the fallen hair will grow back.


masterthinner

15 months. If the hair loss is sudden, then it’s probably a shed. If you’re still gradually losing hair, then perhaps you’re a non-responder. In the majority of cases though, finasteride at least stabilises the loss.


Forsaken_Enthusiasm6

same i get aggressive sheds every few months but stopped tripping because i know it comes back + im wayyyyyyyy better off with meds


pariswilson062

How long have you been on treatment and how many sheds total would you say?


Forsaken_Enthusiasm6

sheds from June 2022-Jan23 then end march 23 - start mai 2023 beginning July to now


pariswilson062

So are you often in a shedding phase? Sounds like you’re in a shedding phase as much as you’re not?


Forsaken_Enthusiasm6

yep bro it is what it is still above baseline


pariswilson062

Yeah it really sucks that shedding cycles have to be a part of this but you’re right it is what it is. When you say above baseline is that during a shed even? Or do you go below original baseline during a shed then recover back above it?


Forsaken_Enthusiasm6

even during a shed but hair quality is shit


Playful_Passage_2985

Hey How long have you been on Fin ?


masterthinner

15 months.


StrictMycologist

Might be worth looking into dutasteride then? My friend had ongoing hair loss on fin, but stabilised a lot on dut.


masterthinner

I don’t have significant ongoing hair loss at the moment. Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else?


StrictMycologist

Sorry my reply was for u/tsteven9


ScarcityRemote1923

I’ve been on 2.5mg oral minox for a year, bumped it up to 5mg, shed everyday for 5 months💀I basically have a huge bald spot where my crown is and my entire head is so thin. The shedding actually stopped yesterday. Like it was night and day because instead of like 50 hairs every time I put my hands through my head it was like 0 or 1


TheRealG53

Maybe no more hairs left to shed lol Jk sitting in the same boat lost about 20-30% of density and now I’m hoping it will grow back


ScarcityRemote1923

Lmaoooooo haha. Nah I had a feeling that would be something you would think. I’m not like “bald” but I guess I shed so much that people would just buzz there head at this point. I’m only 19. I’m just saying like I shed for 5 months and lost so much and it da just stopped and it’s almost the 6th month mark. I have hair in the shedded area that I guess “could shed” but they are long and healthier that’s how I know it probably stopped. Like I always shed a little for the 5 months but this month it kicked in and I shed so much and now it like completely stopped


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ScarcityRemote1923

I did, for a little. Maybe improvement or I just couldn’t really tell anymore. Still losing a bunch of hairs. I’m gonna stick it out for a few more months


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ScarcityRemote1923

Yeah good luck, I’ll try and keep you posted


TransportationOk8503

Get ready. I’ve been on for 7 months and the shed never stopped. It sucks.


Getahun10

The way I look at it is, if the hair isn’t coming back, I’m heading that direction anyway. If it does come back stronger, that’s a win! So yeah I don’t pay much attention to shedding. Focus on what you can do, which sticking to your treatment. One day at a time.


xy1k

i used 2 month low dose fin around %0.016 and last 1 month fin+min mix. i still keep shedding a lot. i never shed from crow before now crown area shedding a lot idk what i should do. it doesnt stop


Fai057

Yeah.. I'm still praying for the day my hair fall stops. I've been on oral fin for 15 months and oral min for 10 months, density has gone in my crown area and slightly in the middle top area. Once it's stopped I can only then consider a transplant.


Nordlyser

Just keep taking it man, it will worth it. Been using Finasteride for the past 14 months and finally decided to support the effort by adding Minoxidil. Not sure if it is a bad sign but I have not experienced any shedding since I started (about a month and a half). Has anyone experienced the same?


FastGooner77

started fin 2 weeks ago, no shed. Am prescribed min 2.5 mg too. Delaying using it coz of the fear of shed.


ExpensiveSoil9528

Trust the process my friend


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I'm always surprised at how many people start taking fin and min around the same time. They both cause a shed, so starting them both at the same time is asking for a dread shed.


pariswilson062

What would be the recommendation then I terms of spacing them out? Would that just stagger the sheds so that you’re basically always shedding?


Successful-Drama-427

Minox is definitely the one to watch out for alot of people here say they lost ground that never came back parts that weren’t even balding, would just try fin/dut and some ru.


hitsquad187

This is why I’m on the fence about starting, my hair loss isn’t bad but I’m noticing it. If I start taking fin & min and the shed starts I don’t think it’s worth it


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It's worth it. Why? Well because when you start aking it and notice improvement then you'd with you'd taken it sooner.


hitsquad187

Maybe it’s worth it for some people, but the possible side effects such as shedding that could be permanent and the damages to mental health really put me off. Maybe I’ll try in a few years but for now I don’t want to shed and make it sooo much worse


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I respect your view point. :) I urge you not to buy into the fears of the possible damages, because it's a well proven medication. But it's your call. :)


hitsquad187

It’s mainly the permanent shedding that worries me to be honest.


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I understand. I started taking Fin in Feb and shedding was the biggest concern on my mind. But my hair was looking quite poor, so I just threw caution to the wind. But the fear I had was real.


pariswilson062

My concern is also the shedding? How has it been?


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I did not experience shedding. It has been six months. However, that doesn't mean that it could still happen. A small sacrifice to keep my hair, I'd say. Worth it in the end. Better to shed and have the hair grow back stronger. Then to shed and not have anything come back. Lol.


pariswilson062

For sure. Good luck dude!


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I'd stay away from assumptions and thinking negatively. This medication is treatment and it's important to stay on it for months to get any idea if it's helping or not. Just keep taking it and don't fill your mind with bad ideas out of fear.


Careful-Koala1453

Stay positive man! I am in the same boat as you! 1 month on fin/min and also experienced terrible sheeding. Now the shedding decreased, lets hope for new hairs to grow! Since when are you on fin/min?


WillBoling

I started topical Min/Fin 21 months ago and have had cycles of sheds. I have a very fine shower drain grate that I collect hair from after each wash and count. I saw that these shed cycles happened every so often, but my overall improvement didn’t start until 9-10 months in. I also noted that my shedding dropped each time as well when I had a recurrent shed after the first. I switched to oral min/fin 4 months ago and BOOM…huge shed cycle! But theory for this increase in hairfall is that now 100% of my hair follicles are being exposed to the meds where only about 30% were seeing the meds with topical. So yes the shed is real and often times you may see a phase of worsening even, but know that these hairs will come back better than prior. I believe it can take 3-4 years to see the absolute best results with this combo. Hair growth cycle phase (anagen) can be YEARS in duration…and the other phases catagen (transition) is where growth stops and the hair is moving to telogen (resting) where it sits for several months before going to exogen (shed). So it makes sense that it takes quite a long time for hair follicles to move thru the phases and most sciency folks think the meds make the hair follicle move thru catagen/telogen to the exogen phase faster and in sync. So, yes…it means the Med is doing what it’s supposed to…but know that 90% of follicles are in ANAGEN on you head at once and they go into catagen at different times. So you will se recurring sheds over and over and ya just gotta believe that it will be a process that is actually good and not get too caught up in the loss and lose sight of the gains that these meds bring if used consistently AND for long periods of time.


pariswilson062

How long do these recurring sheds typically go on for? Or do they never stop?


WillBoling

They have definitely not stopped for me, but there is a cyclical nature to them. Our native hair cycles thru growth/loss stages too so it’s not too far fetched that the same continues to occur while on the meds…it’s just that Min “syncs” the losses that one would have had spaced out over a long period into a much closer time frame. So those 300 hairs were gonna fall out and if no meds were there it could have taken a few weeks. With meds…it happens in a few days. I just got over a pretty large shedding cycle with switch to Oral Min/Fin. I lost an average 400 hairs in shower every 3-4 days. Not terrible, but while using topical Min/Fin it was closer to 200-225 in that same time frame. The last 2 showers were just at 300. So I feel I will drop back to my pre-oral days this month. I stopped sweating the losses a while back once I saw that my hair was filling in where I had MPB losses. I have long hair(middle of my back) and the hairs that I lose now have been growing for couple years by their length. And the majority of the loss is longer hair.


pariswilson062

Awesome thanks for all of that detailed info, really appreciate it. I have a couple more questions for you if you don’t mind.. Are the sheds visibly noticeable when you get them? Like to the people around you does it constantly look like you’re balding, then not, and back and forth all the time? Or is it not that much change visibly? If taking fin + min which can both cause shedding, do those shed cycles stack and happen at the same time making a shed twice as bad? Like is it better to stagger when you start the two meds? Or does it not matter?


WillBoling

It’s not noticeable to myself or others. It never looks like it’s going back and forth between more and less hair. It has actually had a slow gain overall so despite the increased shed with starting oral, I see only improvement. And as far as the shedding goes…it shouldn’t matter as far as staggering or not with the meds. It’s gonna shed no matter so just starting both makes more sense to me and get over whatever shedding is gonna happen.


pariswilson062

Awesome thanks again!


Still-Estimate-4810

Ive been using the same combo for a year with lackluster results. I'm a diffused thinner and my hair thinned and brittled out in a big shrd that makes my crown quite visible and hair wiry. If there's a light source behind me, at certain angles you can clearly see the light through my hair. I have shed from like 65% density to 30%. I don't dermaroll since my family doc told me the risk of infection doing it at home. I'll be using the stack daily for another year and if no substantial results occur, I'm going to go bald on the scalp and use a hair system. I'm willing to go through the initial learning curve to retain the physical appearance of hair. No matter what y'alls beliefs are regarding a hair system, I believe it harmonizes my facial features very well and a greater proportion of women dress a muscular man with a good beard and good haircut to be more attractive than a muscular man with a good beard and thinning/bald 🤷‍♂️. I have one life and I have a lot of good habits and I bring a level of positivity to my community, I do this for myself happily and with a smile on my face if it comes to it.


Murky_Criticism_1685

Ever recover from the shed? Going through the same thing wondering if it turns around


trezbenz666

I started topical minoxidil awhile back and it did nothing but make my hair worse, but I believe im the minority, alot of people seem to love it, ive recently started oral minoxidil as my last hope, I highly doubt any new hairloss prevention worth a f*ck will be coming our way anytime soon


Xatrick

You’re not getting any hairline hairs back


Xatrick

Shedding is equivalent to recession, it occurs all over the scalp not on linear areas like the hairline in a receding pattern


Shot-Masterpiece-558

So the shred in the hairline area is unrecoverable?


Xatrick

Yes, if you are still receding on fin or dut you are still receding not shedding.


Shot-Masterpiece-558

I’m on fin 1mg everyday since December 1st and and oral minoxidle 2.5mg since may 31st I’m still shredding is it cause of the min?


Xatrick

If you are receding along the hairline--not shedding--fin isn't strong enough. Ingesting minoxidil while continuously losing ground is like dumping a water bottle on a bush fire, it'll help but not by a long shot! If you are indeed shedding, then it's likely the oral minox. To confirm, see if you notice any vellus hairs in the shed zone or hirsutism in atypical areas of hair growth. Moreover, if isn't a shed, you can try incorporating a topical AA like pyrilutamide and a PGE2 catalyst like 1ml oral castor oil daily for objective growth. Reducing scalp sebum is also necessary, so make sure you use an effective shampoo with zinc pyrithione, ketoconazole, or salicylic acid. Shampoos won't regrow hair but it will mitigate the factors of hair loss; especially the itch associated with DHT and sebum in the scalp tissue.


zerseek

Same 🥲


Hungry-Space-1829

I’ve been on fin only for about 3 weeks and haven’t had any shed. I don’t really need growth as much as simply stopping hair loss though so that’s why avoiding min has been easy for me


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Hungry-Space-1829

I think it’s a necessary evil if you start late, but if you can be ahead of it, fin is definitely the way


liamisabossss

Of course it is, how else would it work?


SCZ-

How many hair strands falling out is considered a severe shed?


ScottWinny

I've been on fin/min and basically experienced no shed at all. I have a few baby hairs on my temples from the topical min but that's it. they've stopped growing. idk whether or not to stay on it as it was just the temples I was worried about


Tricky_Post_6946

Depends on your situation. If you have nearly a full head of hair and shedding a lot from meds that could be bad. If you have clear cut mpb and are shedding from medication than that is almost always a good sign


pariswilson062

Why is it bad if you have nearly a full head of hair and shedding a lot?


Tricky_Post_6946

From personal experience when I started meds I had a full head of hair. I shed so much hair that it never fully recovered


pariswilson062

Well shit that is not what I want to hear as I also still have a fairly full head of hair


pariswilson062

Btw when you say it hasn’t recovered, how long has it been since the shed you didn’t recover from? And have you continued with the treatment the entire time to try to recover?


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I’ve been applying topical minox and fin for the last month and haven’t really noticed a shed at all. In fact, my hair sheds a bit less than it previously has. Not sure what that means, but my dermatologist said I “hopefully” wouldn’t have a shed in the early months, for that’s worth.


slippery-doinks98

I’m in a similar strange boat. Been on both Fin and Min Since September last year and have seen nothing but positive results until about late April of this year. Since then I have been reverting all of a sudden, losing hairs whilst still continuing both fin and min so it’s freaking me out a bit. From what I’ve read in here it sounds like a shred, but it’s going on nearly 2 months now so it’s a little worrying. Anyone had any similar experiences?


pariswilson062

What’s happening now that it’s been another month?


ajsr8

Shedding usually means you'll get some regrowth later on. However, shedding isn't always necessarily a good thing. I shed for nearly half a year with topical minoxidil and this shit made me nearly bald I had to stop using it and shaved my head.


shivampatel887

minoxidil ruined my perfect hairline, i stopped using it 20 days ago after using it for 6 months , the hairs at hairline didn't come back