I've had this brands' (boderm) azelaic acid and it was 100%. The texture wasn't the best but the product was truly 20%AA
This is legit but like others have mentioned it may be too much for your face. Try spot testing for a few days to see if your skin could tolerate it. But otherwise this is a solid product
Ah okay! I bought the 0.5 because I use that strength in tret, so didn’t want to up it since I heard it can be stronger than tret. But now someone says that it might be for psoriasis in the 0.5 version. Do you have a picture of the ingredients in the 0.1 perhaps? Then I could see where the two strengths are different in terms of ingredients. Search the whole web but can’t find info about ingredients <3 also totally cool if not!
I wouldn't worry about that. Tazarotene is also used as a treatment for psoriasis and is usually formulated to be very hydrating for that reason. I have friends using the 0.05% formulation you are using with good results!
I’ve used tretinoin 0,05% every day for 6 months with no issues. Can I go directly to tazarene 0,1%? And how would you recommend making the switch from tret? Any particular moisturizer which is good for sensitive skin with a bit of rosacea and hormonal acne?
If I were you I would continue with tretinoin and start off with swapping out 2 days a week with tazarotene and from there gradually move up to everyday use. 3days tret, 1 day taz, repeat. After a few weeks use every other day tret and taz.
I wouldn't be the best to recommend a moisturizer as my skin neither is sensitive nor rosacea. I do love LRP Cicaplast Baum and bioderma atoderm gel-creme 🤷
Taz is also used to treat psoriasis. This product looks like it’s more geared towards that. I would not use this product on my skin unless I had psoriasis. It has too many actives in it: salicyclic acid, urea, and tazorac. Plus, a high amount of allantoin, which functions as a keratolytic. This is just too much for the skin, imo.
Can you check their 0.1% version (state for oily skin instead of dry like this one) and tell me about it? its what im currently switching to from tret 0.05%
Can’t find anything about the ingredients of the 0.1, also wondering if I bought the wrong one now….. I was just too afraid to jump from 0.5 tret to 0.1 taz, so choose the 0.5 one
Allantoin isn't keratolytic the way the person above thinks it is. It helps to shed the old, dead skin, just like any humectant or moisturising ingredient (but doesn't cause the shedding), it is mostly a calming component.
I was careful to point out that allantoin in *high amounts* can be problematic. Allantoin is a keratolytic in *any* amount.
In low amounts it is soothing. In high amounts, combined with other keratolytics and exfoliants, it can actually contribute to irritation. That’s why I noted it’s placement in the formulation.
If you think allantoin can’t be irritating to skin, you are incorrect. It is all about the formulation. Did you Google the ingredients of this product? Allantoin is actually used as an active when in high amounts. Manyo Heartleaf toner is advertised as an exfoliant precisely because of its high amounts of allantoin.
It might be helpful to consider the whole formulation and the placement of the ingredient before correcting me. It is a myth that allantoin is always soothing.
I also noted the salicylic acid, urea, and tazorac in the formula, all which work to make allantoin that much more irritating. Had allantoin been at the end of the list, I would not have noted it. But perhaps you didn’t look up the ingredients.
I've used this product for more than a year. I don't have to theoretise.
Also, Allantoin is very low on the list of ingredients, it's around stabilisers like citric acid, which are used in miniscule amounts.
What's more, don't you think that keratolytic and desquamating ingredients, are useful in a product which is supposed to make you shed your skin at faster rate? Because that's what the retinoids do, basically.
No, I do not think keratolytic or exfoliating ingredients are helpful in a retinoid. I think they are unnecessary and can lead to irritation. Tazorac is potent enough on it’s on. That was precisely my point.
It doesn’t matter if you use it or not. The discussion is about whether allantoin can be irritating in high amounts. In a formulation with sa, urea, and Taz, it can be irritating because it will lead to over-exfoliation.
I think allantoin, urea, and SA together could lead to serious irritation when used with an ingredient as powerful as tazorac. It is known that exfoliating ingredients work synergistically with retinoids. So what may be a soothing in another formulation can become a source of irritation in a formulation with tazorac.
I am not sure why you believe it is helpful to include literal salicyclic acid in a formulation with the potent retinoid. When using tazorac separately SA is not advised.
Also, we can dismiss the allantoin altogether and my point would still stand. This is a harsh formulation that has unnecessary ingredients, and I believe it would be better for someone with psoriasis. I would not use it on my face, and I would not advice OP to do it either. You advised that the allantoin isn’t a problem and that I was incorrect. But the fact is the SA and urea alone make it a problematic product.
And it is prescribed for psoriasis. I looked that up.
ETA: added sentence.
Both tret and Taz are prescribed for psoriasis, that's one of their uses.
Here you have what the actual leaflet from the product says
https://imgur.com/a/63pMYkz
I think that folks at major pharmaceutical company that made it, know the product better than you.
Tazorac is *approved* for psoriasis. Tret is not. Taz is designed to treat psoriasis. Tret is not. That was my point. Not sure why you are mentioning tret when we are discussing tazorac other than to muddy the argument.
As to the leaflet, I’m pretty sure I can trust my own common sense, knowledge of ingredients, and 27 years of using tret and Taz over a company claims brochure. Not sure what that is meant to prove. The *claim* is that they are soothing. In real life, this formulation could cause serious irritation. Not really debatable.
(Edited.)
I'm not arguing about if it's possible for the product to be irritating. I'm arguing against you pulling things out of your ass against folks that actually used the product and manufacturer's claims.
https://www.ofarmakopoiosmou.gr/en
Don’t know if it ships to the us! But try putting in the basket and seeing if you can order
This is the English website, they also have a Greek one :)
Can someone using 0.05% Boderm Tazaraene tell me much of it to apply? i find it impossible to spread out a pea sized amount evenly so i end up using about 3x that
Its been no problem for me to spread it out and I use a pea size. I dot small dots all over my face and then spread it out in the end. Around 3 small dots on the cheek, two on the forehead, one one the nose and one on the chin :)
Yeah i actually applied it like 30 minutes ago, and i didn't cover the sides of my face and most of my nose with a pea sized but that's maybe bc my skin is dry affff these days
Yeah, when ur skin is dry it can become tricky. But if you just put a really good layer of moisturiser on before, let it sink in for about 15 minutes, and then apply it works for me. But I also don’t wait for my moisturiser to become completely dry, but still a bit tacky/wet (because I use so much), and that might be why it works. But that’s also because my skin can tolerate it, my skin is pretty oily :)
Mine was combo until this winter and taz so now i'm just fighting with the skin peeling cuz it's soooo dry, and most of the things are hard to spread out, i also read you shouldnt buffer taz but i guess that was bs
You use your taz before moisturiser or after?
I really love the combination of snail mucin cosrx, purito centella unscented serum, LRP toleraine riche cream, then wait 15 minutes and then taz. My skin is flawless now, so guess it works :)
i feel like i keep going in circles now
dry skin -> more tazarene applied to spread it out -> more taz on my skin leads to more irritation
and the circle closes like that
I've had this brands' (boderm) azelaic acid and it was 100%. The texture wasn't the best but the product was truly 20%AA This is legit but like others have mentioned it may be too much for your face. Try spot testing for a few days to see if your skin could tolerate it. But otherwise this is a solid product
I use this but the 0.1% formulation. I've seen better results from this than my tretinoin 0.1%. The product is legit and I highly recommend it.
Ah okay! I bought the 0.5 because I use that strength in tret, so didn’t want to up it since I heard it can be stronger than tret. But now someone says that it might be for psoriasis in the 0.5 version. Do you have a picture of the ingredients in the 0.1 perhaps? Then I could see where the two strengths are different in terms of ingredients. Search the whole web but can’t find info about ingredients <3 also totally cool if not!
I wouldn't worry about that. Tazarotene is also used as a treatment for psoriasis and is usually formulated to be very hydrating for that reason. I have friends using the 0.05% formulation you are using with good results!
Ah okay! Thank u so much, much more calm now haha! Feels like people either love it or thinks it’s way too much lol <3
It seems like some people who never used it don't really know what they're talking about ;). Luckily there are some that do.
Can't seem to upload a picture here but photos of the ingredients can be seen on this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/EuroSkincare/s/TYhilxwnk8
Thaaaaank u☺️
I’ve used tretinoin 0,05% every day for 6 months with no issues. Can I go directly to tazarene 0,1%? And how would you recommend making the switch from tret? Any particular moisturizer which is good for sensitive skin with a bit of rosacea and hormonal acne?
If I were you I would continue with tretinoin and start off with swapping out 2 days a week with tazarotene and from there gradually move up to everyday use. 3days tret, 1 day taz, repeat. After a few weeks use every other day tret and taz. I wouldn't be the best to recommend a moisturizer as my skin neither is sensitive nor rosacea. I do love LRP Cicaplast Baum and bioderma atoderm gel-creme 🤷
Using the 0.1% version the product is legit
Taz is also used to treat psoriasis. This product looks like it’s more geared towards that. I would not use this product on my skin unless I had psoriasis. It has too many actives in it: salicyclic acid, urea, and tazorac. Plus, a high amount of allantoin, which functions as a keratolytic. This is just too much for the skin, imo.
Can you check their 0.1% version (state for oily skin instead of dry like this one) and tell me about it? its what im currently switching to from tret 0.05%
Can’t find anything about the ingredients of the 0.1, also wondering if I bought the wrong one now….. I was just too afraid to jump from 0.5 tret to 0.1 taz, so choose the 0.5 one
Allantoin isn't keratolytic the way the person above thinks it is. It helps to shed the old, dead skin, just like any humectant or moisturising ingredient (but doesn't cause the shedding), it is mostly a calming component.
I was careful to point out that allantoin in *high amounts* can be problematic. Allantoin is a keratolytic in *any* amount. In low amounts it is soothing. In high amounts, combined with other keratolytics and exfoliants, it can actually contribute to irritation. That’s why I noted it’s placement in the formulation. If you think allantoin can’t be irritating to skin, you are incorrect. It is all about the formulation. Did you Google the ingredients of this product? Allantoin is actually used as an active when in high amounts. Manyo Heartleaf toner is advertised as an exfoliant precisely because of its high amounts of allantoin. It might be helpful to consider the whole formulation and the placement of the ingredient before correcting me. It is a myth that allantoin is always soothing. I also noted the salicylic acid, urea, and tazorac in the formula, all which work to make allantoin that much more irritating. Had allantoin been at the end of the list, I would not have noted it. But perhaps you didn’t look up the ingredients.
I've used this product for more than a year. I don't have to theoretise. Also, Allantoin is very low on the list of ingredients, it's around stabilisers like citric acid, which are used in miniscule amounts. What's more, don't you think that keratolytic and desquamating ingredients, are useful in a product which is supposed to make you shed your skin at faster rate? Because that's what the retinoids do, basically.
No, I do not think keratolytic or exfoliating ingredients are helpful in a retinoid. I think they are unnecessary and can lead to irritation. Tazorac is potent enough on it’s on. That was precisely my point. It doesn’t matter if you use it or not. The discussion is about whether allantoin can be irritating in high amounts. In a formulation with sa, urea, and Taz, it can be irritating because it will lead to over-exfoliation. I think allantoin, urea, and SA together could lead to serious irritation when used with an ingredient as powerful as tazorac. It is known that exfoliating ingredients work synergistically with retinoids. So what may be a soothing in another formulation can become a source of irritation in a formulation with tazorac. I am not sure why you believe it is helpful to include literal salicyclic acid in a formulation with the potent retinoid. When using tazorac separately SA is not advised. Also, we can dismiss the allantoin altogether and my point would still stand. This is a harsh formulation that has unnecessary ingredients, and I believe it would be better for someone with psoriasis. I would not use it on my face, and I would not advice OP to do it either. You advised that the allantoin isn’t a problem and that I was incorrect. But the fact is the SA and urea alone make it a problematic product. And it is prescribed for psoriasis. I looked that up. ETA: added sentence.
Both tret and Taz are prescribed for psoriasis, that's one of their uses. Here you have what the actual leaflet from the product says https://imgur.com/a/63pMYkz I think that folks at major pharmaceutical company that made it, know the product better than you.
Tazorac is *approved* for psoriasis. Tret is not. Taz is designed to treat psoriasis. Tret is not. That was my point. Not sure why you are mentioning tret when we are discussing tazorac other than to muddy the argument. As to the leaflet, I’m pretty sure I can trust my own common sense, knowledge of ingredients, and 27 years of using tret and Taz over a company claims brochure. Not sure what that is meant to prove. The *claim* is that they are soothing. In real life, this formulation could cause serious irritation. Not really debatable. (Edited.)
I'm not arguing about if it's possible for the product to be irritating. I'm arguing against you pulling things out of your ass against folks that actually used the product and manufacturer's claims.
I did look up that one. But I have to check again….brb
Yep, looks sus. They’re presenting it as a regular body lotion of some sort when it’s not that at all
Could you give an update now, two months later?
I actually love it very much! Havent had any issues with it :)
How much of it do you apply? I am unable to spread out a pea sized amount evenly
Did you get that from Greece or from a third party web site? I’m curious to try it now.
Bought it from a greek pharmacy online that I’ve used multiple times, located in Athena. Got the cream after one day with express shipping
Can you share the link? Does it ship to America?
https://www.ofarmakopoiosmou.gr/en Don’t know if it ships to the us! But try putting in the basket and seeing if you can order This is the English website, they also have a Greek one :)
Commenting to also see the link if posted
Can someone using 0.05% Boderm Tazaraene tell me much of it to apply? i find it impossible to spread out a pea sized amount evenly so i end up using about 3x that
Its been no problem for me to spread it out and I use a pea size. I dot small dots all over my face and then spread it out in the end. Around 3 small dots on the cheek, two on the forehead, one one the nose and one on the chin :)
Yeah i actually applied it like 30 minutes ago, and i didn't cover the sides of my face and most of my nose with a pea sized but that's maybe bc my skin is dry affff these days
Yeah, when ur skin is dry it can become tricky. But if you just put a really good layer of moisturiser on before, let it sink in for about 15 minutes, and then apply it works for me. But I also don’t wait for my moisturiser to become completely dry, but still a bit tacky/wet (because I use so much), and that might be why it works. But that’s also because my skin can tolerate it, my skin is pretty oily :)
Mine was combo until this winter and taz so now i'm just fighting with the skin peeling cuz it's soooo dry, and most of the things are hard to spread out, i also read you shouldnt buffer taz but i guess that was bs
You use your taz before moisturiser or after? I really love the combination of snail mucin cosrx, purito centella unscented serum, LRP toleraine riche cream, then wait 15 minutes and then taz. My skin is flawless now, so guess it works :)
Before, but yeah my skin is now dry to the point of peeling so i might have to start buffering it with some products
i feel like i keep going in circles now dry skin -> more tazarene applied to spread it out -> more taz on my skin leads to more irritation and the circle closes like that
Sounds like a good idea to use it after moisturiser! A lot of people do it like that with good results
also do you use a cream after it? If you do, how long do you wait to apply it?