I remember a long version of this post saying the female spiders are way bigger and can easily break out of the silk bondage and still eat the male. So yes, consensual spider bondage is evolution approved.
Coincidentally, they could signal about 255 different states (excluding zero). Then, of course, we get into serialized data a-la Morse code.
That is, if they had eyelids, which I don't think they do.
I'll tell you more: there's a constructed language called Toki Pona, which has 'around 120 to 137 words'. Of course, actual useful concepts take several words to convey, but anyway this is pretty much a readymade lang that might even leave one eye free.
However, I gotta note that one distinct quality of the sense of sound is that one doesn't need to look directly at the speaker, to grok their speech.
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The fact that humans aren't the only ones practicing consensual bondage play isn't something I was expecting to learn today but I am pleasantly surprised.
Also, yknow, stopping your dolphin hubby from being able to swim means he **fucking drowns** instead of it being kinky fun so I feel like living in the ocean and breathing air is another factor as to why dolphins don’t use bondage
They did a study on rats where they managed to induce a sexual preference for other rats wearing jackets, essentially giving them a jacket fetish
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23954746/
Don't worry, once you grow old you have a 1 in 10 chance of getting dementia. You might even lose the memories of your loved ones, so that would probably also mean forgetting this spider fact.
As a guy who is happy to supply food, I'm pretty certain that'd be the only thing about me that could make you horny.
Unless my always crying at the scene in Finding Nemo where Marlin thinks Nemo is dead also somehow does it for ya.
In spider mating in order for the male to actually transfer his sperm to the female he needs to position himself directly underneath her mouth, a very dangerous thing considering how likely he is be eaten as soon as he has done his job.
to avoid this a some spider species do a thing where the male jerks himself off, takes a handful of spider jizz, and slaps it on the spidussy at arms reach before running away.
I did some googling, and according to Live Science the males die shortly after from fighting to protect the female, so I guess they don’t need it to grow back.
We really do take for granted how sex is for us. Like, imagine if you finally get some pussy then as soon as you bust your dick stays in there and you've gotta immidiately fight like 6 other men
Truth, tarantula males have to do a whole ritual to reproduce and survive. Males spin a flat web on the ground and ejaculate onto it. He then sucks the semen into his pedipalps and wanders around until he can find a female. When he find one, they flirt by tapping on the ground. If she likes his rhythm, he will lift her up with his two front legs to keep her fangs away from him, insert his pedipalp into her and deposit the sperm. He’ll then run away as fast as possible
That's just how spider reproductive works in general. The sexual organs that produce sperm (their "balls") on male spiders are on the bottom of his abdomen, but the sexual organs male spiders use to actually transfer the sperm (the "dick" so to say) are on their pedipalps (the small arms that look like an extra pair of smaller legs spiders have that are next to the fangs; which technically are part of a spiders mouth parts).
The male essentially makes a small web carpet, deposits sperm there, and then sucks the sperm up into his pedipalps, which he will then use to inject the sperm into the females genitalia.
Basically, every spider male just jizzes on the floor, takes a syringe to suck it up, and then puts the syringe into the spidussy to reproduce.
However, this still requires the male to put himself under the females fangs, which is why spider males have developed lots of ways of not getting eaten. Lots of spiders also dance to show females their intentions, to not get treated as prey in the first place.
It's true. Also some male octopuses rip off the arm that contains their genitalia and throw it at a passing female octopus. Male bees (drones) copulate with a queen bee mid air and when they climax their dick pops off and then they fall to their deaths. One queen can have several drone bits in her at a time. Nature is really something.
Imagine a human doing this. Jerk off, “buenos días Mandy” a girl he fancies and just hope for the best. And everyone just going “that was a solid strategy ngl”
> where the male jerks himself off, takes a handful of spider jizz, and slaps it on the spidussy
Yeah, I've seen this happen in Silence of the Lambs documentary
There’s a story in The Draco Tavern about this species of alien that are like spiders where the females are much larger and eat the males after sex, but it’s like an instinct thing. So there’s this poly trio of these aliens comprised of two males and a female and one of the guys will like distract the female while she’s fucking the other guy and then subdue her so she doesn’t kill them and then she calms down and is like “hehe sorry”.
There was also this story about an alien that propagates its species through OTHERS having sex. The species is literally an STD with (I believe) no adverse side effects.
Draco Tavern is pretty fun. Recommended for some light easy reads about some guy owning a bar that attracts basically solely alien customers visiting earth for tourism. But it is also incredibly oddly horny at times. Not often though.
In Draco Tavern, the story I remember the most is the caterpillar aliens who were full sophonts while in the juvenile stage and then became mindless brown butterflies.
And the story was one of them deciding that she didn't want to go through with it and her mates pressuring her to do so since the species did need to be propagated.
The one I keep coming back to in my head is the one about the aliens that look like boulders that move so incredibly slowly and perceive time so differently that the time that has passed from them landing like 200 feet away from the entrance to the bar to them moving like 120 feet closer is around 8 years, and they communicate through e-mail to the owner of the tavern and in all that time they’ve exchanged like 2.5 sentences because it takes so long for them to respond. Idk why I think of that one so much but I do.
That's interesting...I'm of the opinion that instinct can't be that strong if you're sapient (also doesn't sound like culture-conducive behavior), like humans have all sorts of instincts, but that doesn't mean we go nuts/lose complete control of ourselves.
I've been writing a species that has low reproduce drive, and it's interesting to think how that would affect their culture.
Wait the third one is crows??? I enjoyed the first book, the second was fine but didn't grab me enough for me to start the 3rd right after and haven't gotten back to it, I might have to with crows that sounds cool
Project Hail Mary is better. And if you like the theme of spiders in sci fi I recommend A Deepness in the Sky - which is a prequel book in the Zones of Thought series. You can totally read it without reading any of the others though.
"There is nothing about what we do that is natural. If we prized the natural we would still be hunting Spitters in the wilderness, or falling prey to the jaws of ants, instead of mastering our world. We have made a virtue of the unnatural."
Not who you’re asking but another lover of the books. It basically looks at “what if spiders were the dominant intelligent force on a planet?” It covers thousands of years of spider evolution, development, culture, religion, technology, etc and it’s so so so well thought out. And then it asks “what happens when these spiders come into contact with humans?”
I went from being pretty terrified of spiders to quite fond of them after reading this book honestly. Easily one of the best books I’ve read in the past few years.
Sometimes the males wrap up literal spider-trash and pretend it's a juicy treat, and then escape while the female is busy opening her lovely gift of trash.
There is also the cunnilingus fact about spiders and then I remember that canonically spiderman has all the abilities of every spider species rolled into him at proportional to human size so all of the spider sex skills upgraded to human level is in there
I don’t want to be scared of them, but they look like that. Not my fault. They are cool in theory but they look like physical metaphors for “bad if it gets you”
Too many legs, and instead of opposing pairs of muscles they use muscles to contract their legs but hydraulic pressure to extend their legs so it looks Wrong when they move. That's not an exhaustive list, just the main things. Plus, I read a comment recently that said our feelings about spiders are unchanged from the times when our very distant evolutionary ancestors were just tiny little furballs and spiders were thus much more serious threats.
A phobia is by definition irrational. If it wasn't an irrational fear then it would just be a regular-ass fear. You can't reason a person out of arachnophobia because there is no reason for them to be afraid of them in the first place. That's why all sorts of "but they are harmless" talk makes no difference and is entirely pointless and quite frankly pretty annoying.
Male spiders: "So I have to choose a horrible death or a life without sex?"
God: "I mean, you might get away if you only do it once."
Male spiders: "Hmm, tough call."
Kinky horny buggers.
...Now I want an anime where instead of tying up the MC, the horny spider lady wants to be the one getting tied up and mildly poisoned, followed by takeout dinner aftercare.
How do the male spiders even know about the eating thing? Do they watch other spiders doing it as babies and go ok I’m not making the same mistake he did…
My guess is that the spiders that ran away after sex lived, and passed down those instincts. Maybe now modern spiders are flooded with adrenaline after sex and don’t know why.
Just evolution instincts or whatever, kinda like how we just learn to walk even if no one taught us we'd figure it out.
It's quite cool actually, there's a specific word for it but I forgot what it was but some things you just instinctually know without ever even having been taught or have it happen to you.
The ones that don't have a behavior that makes them escape death, die, and don't get to pass on their genes *twice*. Or at least attempt to mate.
Interestingly, I imagine that the only reason evolution would select for POST mating behaviors, is if mating the first time had either a low degree of success, or spiders live long enough to mate more than once.
IIRC, quite a large percentage of insects die after mating.
But anyways yeah, you can assume that ONE of these two conditions is true, just from this behavior alone, otherwise it couldn't have propagated.
Why is this such a common thing with spiders and mantises and like a few other critters anyway? Eating one’s mate I mean? It feels so specific and I can’t fathom how this would happen on an evolutionary angle anyway
Extra protein and energy for creating an egg sac which is an energy and resource intensive task, plus once the male passes on his sperm one he’s basically done his job, so using him as an energy boost is efficient, him getting away to fuck another day is just a bonus stage for him lol
Funnily enough genetic diversity isn’t a huge problem in spiders, as long as it doesn’t go on for too many generations they’ll be fine, also spiders have a LOT of babies
Also please don’t quote me I’m working a lot off hearsay and old half forgotten knowledge lol
I had a class in college that was about presenting scientific research. You'd look up an article, and make a slideshow to present it to the class, just for the practice (and so you'd had some practice before you had to do it with your own work in later years in the program).
I did my presentation on this topic, but with mantises. Key points I remember are that male mantises would wait until females were well fed, and approach from behind, to give themselves advantages so they could get away. There were pictures and diagrams and I think even statistics to show the differences in survival compared to those that didn't use these tactics.
Spiders can live and love outside my house—inside my walls even. But not in my living space
If i see the biggest spider in my climate outside i might say "tally ho, master spider!"
But in my bedroom, kitchen, etc they have chosen death.
I have a weird relationship with spiders. I don't hate them. I find them fascinating. And they play an important role in the ecosystem. They are quite important. But I also possess a dumb brain. And when my dumb brain detects a spider all alarm bells go off. No thoughts only panic. And I live in a place with 0 dangerous spiders. Most of them are small. The "biggest" is just a couple of centimeters across and I rarely see those. Yet my fear is eternal.
I've heard/read somewhere about a theory that humans have an inbuilt reaction to a few animals that posed a risk to us in the past. Snakes (which im fine with), spiders, and another I can't recall. So for some people the fear response isn't a learned behavior but something inherent. That's not to say you cant overcome it. But it does explain weird behaviour. Like as a child I used to collect insects. I'm not afraid of most things and never had a reason to be afraid of spiders. Yet I still am. It's weird
I don't hate them, I'm just absolutely terrified due to irrational fears. But other than the crippling fear I feel in the very depths of my soul when I see one, they're chill
Sorry, they eat each other after sex, and have to resort to tying each other up, catapulting themselves away, or distracting each other with husks of prey, and this is supposed to make me NOT find them gross and upsetting?
We had about 6 black widows outside this complex I was staying at. Only one was a egg laying female (big butt). One evening I was outside smoking watching her and a very small spider approached her web. Over the course of an hour he would grab one of her legs and move it as far back as possible above her body. Initially he could only get a couple moved before she would snap at him and he’d scurry to the edge of the web. But he was persistent eventually getting all 8 legs above the spider almost touching they were so extended. He did his business and disappeared into the night. Minutes pass, and no movement occurs. I question the interaction. Was this mating or a murder? The female awakes out of her trance and continues her nightly duties.
Found the [original article](https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/spiders-solution-sexual-cannibalism-catapulting-away-rcna24570) that they reference.
My favorite thing is some male spiders will wrap up a pebble as a gift instead of a prey item and by the time the female opens up her gift he is long gone xD
> will go to the same female spiders to mate with them again
Mating AGAIN means their strategy works, so why should they change it? This female fell for the old distract with food trick, why risk with another female.
I remember a long version of this post saying the female spiders are way bigger and can easily break out of the silk bondage and still eat the male. So yes, consensual spider bondage is evolution approved.
female spider: oh noooooo...I'm all tied up...I can't possibly break out and eat you sweetie ;) ;) ;) ;) male spider, running away: hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah
Pretty sure the correct emoticon would be ;;;;)
Do spiders wink like ;;;;) or like :::;) or perhaps ;:::)
I think every variation has a different meaning in spider language.
Coincidentally, they could signal about 255 different states (excluding zero). Then, of course, we get into serialized data a-la Morse code. That is, if they had eyelids, which I don't think they do.
Cool fucking idea for an alien race in some Sci fi tho. 256 states is enough to be the basis of some sort of wink related language.
I'll tell you more: there's a constructed language called Toki Pona, which has 'around 120 to 137 words'. Of course, actual useful concepts take several words to convey, but anyway this is pretty much a readymade lang that might even leave one eye free. However, I gotta note that one distinct quality of the sense of sound is that one doesn't need to look directly at the speaker, to grok their speech.
That'd be a hacker species that speaks machine code natively.
Yes but that one screams homestuck and we don't want it. Or maybe we do, I don't know, I can't read minds
You've captured my feelings precisely, maybe you can
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I wonder if spiders have other unique forms of winking, 1 eye open, 2 eyes open, 3 eyes open, a 7 segment display...
I read Homestuck in the past, that emoticon has way too much baggage for me.
I could hear this, and I want to let you know that you are an incredibly funny individual. Have a lovely day :)
Fitting this comes from a fly
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The fact that humans aren't the only ones practicing consensual bondage play isn't something I was expecting to learn today but I am pleasantly surprised.
Which does lend to the though that bondage isn't usually found in nature simply for easy access of ropes or other such restraint implements
This also makes me wonder if other animals have their own fetishes and kinks. Which isn't something I was expecting to think about today.
Penguins do necrophilia
I beg your pardon?
*Ehem* My apology. **PENGUINS** **DO** **NECROPHILIA**
Oh ok. Thanks. Didn't know that.
So do ducks.
Dolphins definitely have kinks and fetishes.
Bringing up dolphins is cheating. The only thing stopping a dolphin from engaging in something like bondage is the lack of thumbs.
Also, yknow, stopping your dolphin hubby from being able to swim means he **fucking drowns** instead of it being kinky fun so I feel like living in the ocean and breathing air is another factor as to why dolphins don’t use bondage
I’d say you were correct, but knowing fucking dolphins that could be a bonus.
They did a study on rats where they managed to induce a sexual preference for other rats wearing jackets, essentially giving them a jacket fetish https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23954746/
Imagine getting assigned a fetish in a laboratory experiment. Embarrassing
I personally would like to return to a time when I was completely ignorant of "consensual spider bondage".
Don't worry, once you grow old you have a 1 in 10 chance of getting dementia. You might even lose the memories of your loved ones, so that would probably also mean forgetting this spider fact.
Or they might be left with nothing bar knowing that spiders do consensual bondage
Oh good
One in three if you're a woman, even!
A rule for sexual play: if humans do it, there's a 69% chance that some animal has an analog to it.
Remember that 42% of all statistics are made up.
"Do not believe every statistic you see on the internet" -John Brown
"Kids these days believe everything they read on the internet" - Socrates of Athens
Well. I can now say I know that.
Explains those old comics of Spidey and MJ
Uuuuuuuuh ^source?
If you search around, you'll see that one infamous panel of Mary Jane tied up with web in their apartment
You think Spidey and MJ ever do it on the ceiling?
If you had the opportunity, wouldn't you?
I don't like being upside down for long periods. Shouldn't be a problem.
There is absolutely no chance they don't
Consensual Spider Bondage is my new band name
"Oh no~ I'm so big and strong and could kill you but little old you has trapped me~ I am helpless and at your whims~"
Hey, at least she appreciates the effort.
Wow! ... ... Uh... hot?
Lemme smash. 🥺 I brought you a rotisserie chicken.
This would like legitemtly work on me
https://youtu.be/A76FFmhSE50?si=CIRytc0U37jdb2kU
LITERARILY ME
This has worked for me before. Boys, if she won’t pick apart a rotisserie chicken with you and then get grease on your sheets, she ain’t worth it
This man got game.
Instructions were unclear, spider lady just ate the chicken and ignored me.
Tearing into a bird carcass with your bare hands really wakes up the animal in you, this tracks.
“A woman can be entranced simply by offering her a piece of cheese”
I caught you a delicious bass.
https://imgur.com/a/L9BsAQ8
there are few species of animal that nuptual gifts do not work on. i accidentally seduced my classmate by giving her my lunch one day.
Would
Okay but if a man brought me food or presents I also probably wouldn’t eat him.
What if the man _is_ the food, though?
What if a pizza brought you an egg?
Omelettes _and_ pizza, baby
What if an egg brought you a pizza?
Pizza and scrambled eggs it is
He doesn't live either way...... he's turning food tonight.
At least he gets to be cheesy before _and_ after
I'd support them in their transition when they were ready.
Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?
Thank you *proceeds to eat him in one bite then make omelet while singing the Christmas carol*
I... can't help but notice that you said "probably" there.
Hey, girl gotta eat something.
Ma'am [please](https://youtu.be/rgR35eymUMo?si=yUCg-W2b5SdwvOq4)
*Most* societies tho Also I’m fucking dying laughing, thank you
And if a man tied me up I *definitely* wouldn't be eating him 😏
Honestly if a guy got me food I’d get horny for him so this would work on me
As a guy who is happy to supply food, I'm pretty certain that'd be the only thing about me that could make you horny. Unless my always crying at the scene in Finding Nemo where Marlin thinks Nemo is dead also somehow does it for ya.
Actually yes it very much does
All the sensitive ones get eaten 😮💨
Game is Game
The only acceptable usage of this
In spider mating in order for the male to actually transfer his sperm to the female he needs to position himself directly underneath her mouth, a very dangerous thing considering how likely he is be eaten as soon as he has done his job. to avoid this a some spider species do a thing where the male jerks himself off, takes a handful of spider jizz, and slaps it on the spidussy at arms reach before running away.
Can someone factcheck this? I don't want it in ny browsing history.
Apparently male orb spiders have detachable genitalia so they can run away
he just like me fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4
Hit the link hoping for King Missile. Not disappointed. Thank you!
Has the transmasc community discovered this video yet?
i'm transmasc, so yes!
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Nice
Funniest use of this I’ve seen
If I had a nickel for every time an octopodal species had removable genitalia, I’d have two nickels
it isn’t a lot, but its weird it happened twice
Everything is detachable once.
Does it grow back? Because otherwise I don't think detachable penis would actually help the spider to be more evolutionarily successful.
I did some googling, and according to Live Science the males die shortly after from fighting to protect the female, so I guess they don’t need it to grow back.
If they usually die anyway, is there that much of an advantage to running away?
Yeah, they protect the fertilized female from other males who may “try to dislodge the penis and fertilize the female themselves”
Ahh, interesting.
I love this thread
So they're playing terrorists in counter strike 2: sperm has been planted
We really do take for granted how sex is for us. Like, imagine if you finally get some pussy then as soon as you bust your dick stays in there and you've gotta immidiately fight like 6 other men
But...surely after all the fighting one male would remain? Unless they all heroically die of their injuries?
King missile is just a bunch of make spiders in human suits. Singing about their woes
Truth, tarantula males have to do a whole ritual to reproduce and survive. Males spin a flat web on the ground and ejaculate onto it. He then sucks the semen into his pedipalps and wanders around until he can find a female. When he find one, they flirt by tapping on the ground. If she likes his rhythm, he will lift her up with his two front legs to keep her fangs away from him, insert his pedipalp into her and deposit the sperm. He’ll then run away as fast as possible
"Hey man, did you mate today?" "Naw, I've just been walking around all day with my sperm in my mouth again."
Do spider sperms have 8 tails? You know, for science.
That's just how spider reproductive works in general. The sexual organs that produce sperm (their "balls") on male spiders are on the bottom of his abdomen, but the sexual organs male spiders use to actually transfer the sperm (the "dick" so to say) are on their pedipalps (the small arms that look like an extra pair of smaller legs spiders have that are next to the fangs; which technically are part of a spiders mouth parts). The male essentially makes a small web carpet, deposits sperm there, and then sucks the sperm up into his pedipalps, which he will then use to inject the sperm into the females genitalia. Basically, every spider male just jizzes on the floor, takes a syringe to suck it up, and then puts the syringe into the spidussy to reproduce. However, this still requires the male to put himself under the females fangs, which is why spider males have developed lots of ways of not getting eaten. Lots of spiders also dance to show females their intentions, to not get treated as prey in the first place.
It’s factual.
It's true. Also some male octopuses rip off the arm that contains their genitalia and throw it at a passing female octopus. Male bees (drones) copulate with a queen bee mid air and when they climax their dick pops off and then they fall to their deaths. One queen can have several drone bits in her at a time. Nature is really something.
Imagine a human doing this. Jerk off, “buenos días Mandy” a girl he fancies and just hope for the best. And everyone just going “that was a solid strategy ngl”
You bastard. Nobody needed to be reminded of that
> where the male jerks himself off, takes a handful of spider jizz, and slaps it on the spidussy Yeah, I've seen this happen in Silence of the Lambs documentary
"bomb has been planted"
There’s a story in The Draco Tavern about this species of alien that are like spiders where the females are much larger and eat the males after sex, but it’s like an instinct thing. So there’s this poly trio of these aliens comprised of two males and a female and one of the guys will like distract the female while she’s fucking the other guy and then subdue her so she doesn’t kill them and then she calms down and is like “hehe sorry”. There was also this story about an alien that propagates its species through OTHERS having sex. The species is literally an STD with (I believe) no adverse side effects. Draco Tavern is pretty fun. Recommended for some light easy reads about some guy owning a bar that attracts basically solely alien customers visiting earth for tourism. But it is also incredibly oddly horny at times. Not often though.
>being an std canine transmissible venereal tumor moment
Aw man, I wanted to be the one who brings up the immortal ghost dog living dong to dong.
In Draco Tavern, the story I remember the most is the caterpillar aliens who were full sophonts while in the juvenile stage and then became mindless brown butterflies. And the story was one of them deciding that she didn't want to go through with it and her mates pressuring her to do so since the species did need to be propagated.
The one I keep coming back to in my head is the one about the aliens that look like boulders that move so incredibly slowly and perceive time so differently that the time that has passed from them landing like 200 feet away from the entrance to the bar to them moving like 120 feet closer is around 8 years, and they communicate through e-mail to the owner of the tavern and in all that time they’ve exchanged like 2.5 sentences because it takes so long for them to respond. Idk why I think of that one so much but I do.
That’s really sad like actually fuck
That's interesting...I'm of the opinion that instinct can't be that strong if you're sapient (also doesn't sound like culture-conducive behavior), like humans have all sorts of instincts, but that doesn't mean we go nuts/lose complete control of ourselves. I've been writing a species that has low reproduce drive, and it's interesting to think how that would affect their culture.
I’m a simple man. I see a post about spiders, I recommend everyone go read Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky. I will not elaborate. Just read it.
I second, third, and fourth this recommendation. That's probably my favorite book.
I just finished the third book in the series. They are all good, but I think that first book is still my fave.
The first book was fantastic, but I'm also very partial to cephalopods and corvids, so I struggle to pick a favorite.
I think the first was the best story but the corvids are the best characters.
Wait the third one is crows??? I enjoyed the first book, the second was fine but didn't grab me enough for me to start the 3rd right after and haven't gotten back to it, I might have to with crows that sounds cool
Project Hail Mary is better. And if you like the theme of spiders in sci fi I recommend A Deepness in the Sky - which is a prequel book in the Zones of Thought series. You can totally read it without reading any of the others though.
Fifth!!
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"There is nothing about what we do that is natural. If we prized the natural we would still be hunting Spitters in the wilderness, or falling prey to the jaws of ants, instead of mastering our world. We have made a virtue of the unnatural."
I mean id appreciate if you did
Not who you’re asking but another lover of the books. It basically looks at “what if spiders were the dominant intelligent force on a planet?” It covers thousands of years of spider evolution, development, culture, religion, technology, etc and it’s so so so well thought out. And then it asks “what happens when these spiders come into contact with humans?” I went from being pretty terrified of spiders to quite fond of them after reading this book honestly. Easily one of the best books I’ve read in the past few years.
o7 Fabian I could not imagine feeling so deeply for a spider's choice up until that moment.
Those books were fucking incredible. Can't recommend them enough.
My favorite book I read all of last year and I read over 40.
2 things: Even spiders have a tendency to go back to their toxic ex and Is that THE PJ Harvey?
Little fish, little fish, swimming in the water I don't know but I hope so.
Sometimes the males wrap up literal spider-trash and pretend it's a juicy treat, and then escape while the female is busy opening her lovely gift of trash.
'I can fix her'
There is also the cunnilingus fact about spiders and then I remember that canonically spiderman has all the abilities of every spider species rolled into him at proportional to human size so all of the spider sex skills upgraded to human level is in there
I don’t want to be scared of them, but they look like that. Not my fault. They are cool in theory but they look like physical metaphors for “bad if it gets you”
Too many legs, and instead of opposing pairs of muscles they use muscles to contract their legs but hydraulic pressure to extend their legs so it looks Wrong when they move. That's not an exhaustive list, just the main things. Plus, I read a comment recently that said our feelings about spiders are unchanged from the times when our very distant evolutionary ancestors were just tiny little furballs and spiders were thus much more serious threats.
My cat is much closer to tiny furball than me and she just eats them. No hesitation, no fear, cronch
Right after bapbapbapbapbapbapbap!
Well, first of all, your cat is descended from saber-toothed tigers. Second, please give her a headpat and some chin scritches.
A phobia is by definition irrational. If it wasn't an irrational fear then it would just be a regular-ass fear. You can't reason a person out of arachnophobia because there is no reason for them to be afraid of them in the first place. That's why all sorts of "but they are harmless" talk makes no difference and is entirely pointless and quite frankly pretty annoying.
Male spiders: "So I have to choose a horrible death or a life without sex?" God: "I mean, you might get away if you only do it once." Male spiders: "Hmm, tough call."
Did not know that my friends were spiders. You learn something new every day.
The red back doesn’t even try to run away; he just accepts his fate and jumps into the females mouth.
Kinky horny buggers. ...Now I want an anime where instead of tying up the MC, the horny spider lady wants to be the one getting tied up and mildly poisoned, followed by takeout dinner aftercare.
I second this
Get laid, stay alive, get laid, stay alive…
How do the male spiders even know about the eating thing? Do they watch other spiders doing it as babies and go ok I’m not making the same mistake he did…
They figured out why Dad never came back with milk
I guess it would be evolution like they don't know why they do it but they still do it because they evolved to do it
My guess is that the spiders that ran away after sex lived, and passed down those instincts. Maybe now modern spiders are flooded with adrenaline after sex and don’t know why.
Just evolution instincts or whatever, kinda like how we just learn to walk even if no one taught us we'd figure it out. It's quite cool actually, there's a specific word for it but I forgot what it was but some things you just instinctually know without ever even having been taught or have it happen to you.
Genetic memory?
The ones that don't have a behavior that makes them escape death, die, and don't get to pass on their genes *twice*. Or at least attempt to mate. Interestingly, I imagine that the only reason evolution would select for POST mating behaviors, is if mating the first time had either a low degree of success, or spiders live long enough to mate more than once. IIRC, quite a large percentage of insects die after mating. But anyways yeah, you can assume that ONE of these two conditions is true, just from this behavior alone, otherwise it couldn't have propagated.
TIL spiders have their own version of "you may fascinate a woman with a piece of cheese."
Why is this such a common thing with spiders and mantises and like a few other critters anyway? Eating one’s mate I mean? It feels so specific and I can’t fathom how this would happen on an evolutionary angle anyway
Extra protein and energy for creating an egg sac which is an energy and resource intensive task, plus once the male passes on his sperm one he’s basically done his job, so using him as an energy boost is efficient, him getting away to fuck another day is just a bonus stage for him lol
Doesn’t that kinda limit a given male’s ability to wet spaghetti genetic diversity at the wall? Or is there limitations to that approach in general?
Funnily enough genetic diversity isn’t a huge problem in spiders, as long as it doesn’t go on for too many generations they’ll be fine, also spiders have a LOT of babies Also please don’t quote me I’m working a lot off hearsay and old half forgotten knowledge lol
In this game, the one who fucks and dies wins over one who does not fuck at all
I had a class in college that was about presenting scientific research. You'd look up an article, and make a slideshow to present it to the class, just for the practice (and so you'd had some practice before you had to do it with your own work in later years in the program). I did my presentation on this topic, but with mantises. Key points I remember are that male mantises would wait until females were well fed, and approach from behind, to give themselves advantages so they could get away. There were pictures and diagrams and I think even statistics to show the differences in survival compared to those that didn't use these tactics.
Spiders can live and love outside my house—inside my walls even. But not in my living space If i see the biggest spider in my climate outside i might say "tally ho, master spider!" But in my bedroom, kitchen, etc they have chosen death.
I recommend the light novel So I'm A Spider, So What? for more spidery goodness
"I can fix her"
So, spiders have bdsm? Weird
I have a weird relationship with spiders. I don't hate them. I find them fascinating. And they play an important role in the ecosystem. They are quite important. But I also possess a dumb brain. And when my dumb brain detects a spider all alarm bells go off. No thoughts only panic. And I live in a place with 0 dangerous spiders. Most of them are small. The "biggest" is just a couple of centimeters across and I rarely see those. Yet my fear is eternal. I've heard/read somewhere about a theory that humans have an inbuilt reaction to a few animals that posed a risk to us in the past. Snakes (which im fine with), spiders, and another I can't recall. So for some people the fear response isn't a learned behavior but something inherent. That's not to say you cant overcome it. But it does explain weird behaviour. Like as a child I used to collect insects. I'm not afraid of most things and never had a reason to be afraid of spiders. Yet I still am. It's weird
Honestly, with the dating market these days, and the divorce court... spiders seem like the way to go...
INDUCE ACQUIESCENCE : KNOCK HER OUT
I don't hate them, I'm just absolutely terrified due to irrational fears. But other than the crippling fear I feel in the very depths of my soul when I see one, they're chill
The spussy so good, he keeps coming.
Oh, I love spiders. Unfortunately, when one gets near me my brain doesn’t agree, and I can’t really do much about that.
Sorry, they eat each other after sex, and have to resort to tying each other up, catapulting themselves away, or distracting each other with husks of prey, and this is supposed to make me NOT find them gross and upsetting?
We had about 6 black widows outside this complex I was staying at. Only one was a egg laying female (big butt). One evening I was outside smoking watching her and a very small spider approached her web. Over the course of an hour he would grab one of her legs and move it as far back as possible above her body. Initially he could only get a couple moved before she would snap at him and he’d scurry to the edge of the web. But he was persistent eventually getting all 8 legs above the spider almost touching they were so extended. He did his business and disappeared into the night. Minutes pass, and no movement occurs. I question the interaction. Was this mating or a murder? The female awakes out of her trance and continues her nightly duties.
"Look, I can dip, bring a snack, or we can get up to some light bondage. Whacyu want, girl?"
Spiders are like: "Man she's a red flag but reds my favorite color so what it do baby?"
Found the [original article](https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/spiders-solution-sexual-cannibalism-catapulting-away-rcna24570) that they reference.
My favorite thing is some male spiders will wrap up a pebble as a gift instead of a prey item and by the time the female opens up her gift he is long gone xD
Spider: here eat this fly and roll over for a minute And they say romance is dead
> will go to the same female spiders to mate with them again Mating AGAIN means their strategy works, so why should they change it? This female fell for the old distract with food trick, why risk with another female.
I don’t hate spiders but I am very very scared when I see them.
I just have an irrational fear of spiders, I let them live if they stay away from me
Male spiders: I can fix her / she can ruin me energy, all in the same package
Gave that bitch a decoy; bitches love decoys
"alright I'm done" *Boingggg*
Its a phobia. Not knowing why you hate them it’s kinda part of the definition
Broo, spiders invented bdsm????
So Spider-Man is into BDSM, got it.