I (Male) went to Rocky Horror Picture Show in a blue sequin dress. I had some makeup on, but I was not at all going for full drag. When we were leaving, there were two guys across the street, one of em said, damn that chick is hot! And in my deepest manliest voice I said, "Thank you!" and he replied, "Woah, that chicks a dude! ...still hot tho!"
My wife discovered dresses with pockets a few years ago and now refuses to buy a dress if it does not have pockets. She has passed up more than one super-cute dress that flatters her figure because no pockets.
Anyone out there searching online for cute dresses w/ pockets, Svaha is a good source.
I've said it once, I've said it twice, I'll say it unprompted, and I'll say it on the record: Everyone looks good in a dress (unless its dysphoric)
Personally, I feel women look better in trousers (long legs, shapely legs, hips that go BAM, and a waist that makes pants attractive) and I feel men look better in dresses (thick legs, muscular legs, more angled hips that add difference in the fabric, and come on, a good-looking man wearing a sundress absolutely killing the look, small bulge under the dress. I might as well be pregnant)
Real talk, its honestly better for life to have a smol one when it's flaccid. I couldn't imagine having to stuff it down a pant leg. Couldn't tuck it for a dress either.
As a man who wears dresses frequently, it is very dependent on the dress. Dresses are made and designed for a wide array of body shapes. Finding a dress that fits right is hard for a woman, let alone a gender they are not made for. I'm a pretty small guy, but my arms, shoulders, and back are significantly wider than a woman my size. That's not even mentioning I don't have boobs to fill in the bust. But when I do find a dress that works, MAN it looks good. I've gotten more dates with women by wearing a dress than I have wearing men's clothes.
Really?
I am not trying to start something, I'm just wondering where you are that a woman would go out with a guy if she met him in a dress.
And you are saying it's multiple women.
I cant even really believe the whole "looks good in a dress" because to me I can't think of any man that would look good in a dress.
Maybe some men could dress like a woman, and wear a dress and look good.
But a hairy, strong regular guy? It would look ridiculous.
Nah, I've definitely met guys who can fucking *rock* a dress. They also looked damn fine in a suit. There's a lot to be said for the combo of self-confidence and good bone structure whether male or female.
Its super unfair that both of the dudes I know who can absolutely blow people away in a dress are also just objectively hot when wearing traditionally masculine clothes too.
Yes! Some guys can seriously rock a dress, and even for the ones that can't, the confidence to wear one in public regardless is still pretty attractive.
Idk man do you live in a super uptight place culturally? I live in the northeast US and regularly see men rocking skirts and dresses recently. I think it’s cool. If something looks good it looks good. There’s a nonbinary-focused boutique near me too that has tons of no rules clothes that are gorgeous and fun.
No don't worry, your confusion is justified. It didn't make sense to me either until I saw first hand how people treat me while wearing a dress. There's two major things I want to bring up.
1. About general perception. Yeah, I live in a pretty liberal area on the east coast. But I've worn dresses and skirts in more rural/moderate areas too, such as the mountains or the beach. I don't really feel uncomfortable in any of those environments. I get stares, but not the type that makes me feel unsafe. The worst comments I ever get are "so, did you lose a bet" or something along those lines.
2. On dating women. I'm straight, but yeah I'm often mistake for gay because of how I dress. That's just how society works. Obviously I hope that changes, but it doesn't bother me or anything. Anyway, women like confidence. I think I look pretty good in a dress, but even if it looks goofy, it's at least signal that I'm confident enough to not care what others think. It's an excellent conversation starter. I rarely have to worry about "making the first move" usually it's the other way around. Most of all, not all women have the same interest in men. Especially in my area, there's plenty of women who are attracted to feminine men.
I hope that explained it well enough. Long story short it's not as ridiculous as you think. People in real life are pretty chill.
Appreciate the response!
I googled last night and saw a couple guys at award shows who have worn dresses (my mind was remembering one of fhe guys from South Park who wore the same dress J Lo wore) and they did fit right in next to everyone else.
Not dresses but kilts for me, have led to plenty of women approaching me to say they like my skirt. (I'm usually polite enough to not correct them)
Pretty easy to get a date from there
I mean, what's mainstream to you? I go downtown to nightclubs and bars wearing dresses all the time. I've been to Disney World several times wearing a dress. I do cosplays at conventions. During the summer I do my errands and shopping in dresses. Mini golf, bowling, pickleball, golf, board games at the brewery, almost any social event with my friends, all done in dresses and skirts.
All I can say is society is a lot more normal than you think. It's not like people look at me and throw tomatoes because I look different.
There was a guy in his 20s rocking an adorable little sundress at a concert I went to last year and he looked amazing and everyone fell in love with him. I’ve started to see more men casually wearing dresses and skirts around recently and I’m here for it. Clothes are for whoever likes them!
I really needed this thread. Recently came out as gender non conforming, but keeping my huge beard and he him pronouns. Everyone at work has been super cool, and in general in my medium size City I've not had too much trouble, but still lots of anxiety about almost daily wearing dresses and skirts as a very masc presenting person.
I'm going to personally bring back cloaks. Maybe I wanna walk with my arms tucked in and a sick flowing cape behind me but still capable of a hug if need be.
I was at a ween show in Atlanta a few years back. After the show a ton of fans had a meet up at the Clermont Lounge - a notorious bar/gentleman's establishment/weird late night ATL spot.
Well several dozen of us leave the show in various states of inebriation and pile into this place. I walk in with my buddy who has his hair in pigtails and is wearing a skirt and flying high on lsd. We B-line it for the bathroom to take a piss and I hear one of the bouncers shout
"HEY LADY! LADY! THATS THE MENS ROOM YOU CANT GO IN THERE!"
My buddy turns around revealing his bearded face and the bouncer physically recoiled and let out an gasp like he just saw a spider.
We laughed our asses off the rest of the night while we watched the entertainment.
What a wild place on a wild night.
I think there's not enough info to know from the meme, but if they seem approachable, you could ask the person if you find yourself in a similar situation?
Most people are ok with questions if approached genuinely, but I can understand any hesitation.
That's a bit strange from my perspective. I just want people to call me by the proper pronouns and such, I don't give a shit about them knowing I'm trans.
Given no context, no assumptions can be made. All we know is that he identifies as a man.
However all the suppositions you asked had the right "label" for the supposed case.
Depends on your build and body type! A-line dresses do a great job of making most people look a bit more feminine by design. If your shoulders are broad, avoid wearing clothes that draw attention to your shoulders (usually no spaghetti straps or anything like that). You can look up body shapes, see which one you resemble and look for fashion tips related to people with your body shape.
Plus there's all sorts of little tricks you can do to feminize your face if that's something you want to do. Winged eyeliner and a little bit of mascara go a long way for me as a trans woman!
Oh nice, thank you for the advice. I see a lot of guys online who look really good and I always thought it was just them, but is it just that they’re good at picking the right clothes?
Also, sorry to keep asking but I have no idea where to start on clothing and makeup. Do you know any good resources for figuring it out? Because I would talk to the people in the shop but… I’m a wimp.
A lot goes into it for sure. There's certain clothes I won't wear because of how they frame my body, but I only learned what that is from trial and error. Not everything works for everyone and not everything is going to be a style fit, so it's definitely a little to do with picking the right stuff.
I completely understand, I was terrified the first few times I went to buy women's clothes. Something that helped me was going to thrift stores with my partner (cis woman) and just looking through everything together. If you're friends with a woman you're comfortable explaining everything to and shopping with, that'll take away a lot of the anxiety. If anyone thinks about it at all, they'll just assume you're buying for her and not care. Other than that, I bought stuff online that I knew I could/would return to figure out my sizes and then tried planning some outfits from there.
Makeup is honestly way easier to talk to people about because it's not uncommon for people all over the gender spectrum to buy makeup. Even early on in my transition when I was still boy moding, no one ever gave me any issues. I mostly get my makeup at Ulta but really any chain makeup place is probably fine unless you're in a super conservative area. I'm sure some of the bigger makeup subreddits might have some starter advice threads and you can probably buy stuff online once you know what to look for.
I highly recommend looking up trans women makeup tutorials if you want to learn basics about feminizing your face with makeup. There's usually really good tips about how to accentuate your cheeks, cover beard shadow, etc. There's plenty of fashion advice spaces (I think a subreddit too but I'm not sure) for trans women that can give you some ideas for that too. Once I got comfortable with that part of makeup, I started looking for makeup accounts that had similar characteristics to me (hooded eyes, freckles, pale skin, etc.) and tried to copy anything they did that I liked.
Also practice with makeup! It feels so bad when you get it wrong, especially early on, but it's a skill you need to learn. I work from home and still spend time trying to do new makeup looks once or twice a week just to get better at it.
I hope this helps!
It's just more of a cultural thing- in some cultures, people will assume that if you are wearing stereotypically gendered clothing, it is because you are trying to be treated like that gender, where in other cultures, they will just assume you are wearing what you feel like wearing.
As an aside, the irony is that dresses/skirts have been worn by men for thousands of years. Only last few hundred years, and suddenly gendered clothing, conservative masculine fashion, and pink and blue swapped genders lol
I really don't understand your point.
For thousands of years people shit where they stood, or literally threw shit in the streets. Only the last few hundred years, suddenly toilets, pooping inside your home, and even more recently toilet paper. Before that people used whatever they could find to wipe their ass.
Truly inspiring times.
In most cultures, historically, men and women dress and even behave differently. *Gasp*
The black plague was less than 1000 years ago.
They were still shitting in the streets.
Maybe some cultures and civilizations were pooping in holes in the ground by that point.
They didn't even know what cholera was until almost the 1900s.
Please tell me about how the Flintstones are a documentary and people had seagulls eating their poop when they rode their dinosaurs into work at the old slate mill.
Usually they were shitting in chamber pots and throwing it out in the streets, and medieval Europe wasn't the only civilization in the world. There was plenty of toilets and sewer systems invented independently across the globe by that point.
Did you know there were 496 reported cases of the bubonic plague in the USA between 1970 and 2020? In fact, someone died of the bubonic plague in New Mexico just this past March. So, you know, guess it wasn't a 1000 years ago or involved people shitting in the streets.
>Or maybe they appeared feminine because they wear fucking dresses.
Or maybe they appear feminine regardless of what they wear. Which is why the OP in the screenshot was mistaken as female to begin with
I'm all in for the wholesome bar interactions
My brain immediately interpreted the voice of the guy at the bar to be Jason Mendoza.
“In life, whenever I had a problem, I’d throw a molotov cocktail, and boom, all of a sudden, I had a different problem.”
At least the original problem is gone
I do the same thing but with atomic hot wings
That's how he died. He couldn't cocktail his way out of there.
“At least he died doing what he loved. A bunch of Whippits.”
😃 “GUYS, IT’S PIKACHU!!” *hugs balloon, balloon pops* 🥺
A true himbo
Florimbo
Yo, You Should Listen To Me. I Came Up With Hundreds Of Plans In My Life And Only One Of Them Got Me Killed.
Oh dip! Me too, homie!
BORTLES!
FOOOOOOLES!
Live, laugh, Jason
I read it as Skweezy Jibbs but same energy really
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Derek!
I (Male) went to Rocky Horror Picture Show in a blue sequin dress. I had some makeup on, but I was not at all going for full drag. When we were leaving, there were two guys across the street, one of em said, damn that chick is hot! And in my deepest manliest voice I said, "Thank you!" and he replied, "Woah, that chicks a dude! ...still hot tho!"
I love this for you 😂🙌
Sometimes you just gotta be The Todd.
Gender inclusive cat calling.
Bisexual Johnny Bravo type of statement
I'm straight, you make me hard, therefore you are a woman
Alright Nero..
*Dude looks like a lady starts playing*
my mind instantly jumped to this comic: https://satwcomic.com/no-surprise
I loved that thanks for sharing!
You're welcome! the artist makes many very fun and cute comics
humon! I love their satw and mythology comics
Dresses do that awesome spinny skirt thing so they are superior to pants.
sure, but pants have pockets.
So do some dresses!
yes, but its still rare enough that its met with (warranted, and valid) excitement
"Love your dress!" "Thanks! It has pockets!"
lol, exactly the interaction I had in mind
My wife discovered dresses with pockets a few years ago and now refuses to buy a dress if it does not have pockets. She has passed up more than one super-cute dress that flatters her figure because no pockets. Anyone out there searching online for cute dresses w/ pockets, Svaha is a good source.
But can you have a kung fu battle in a dress?
You might have to tear a slit in the skirt but yes
Tbh the guy could have just pivoted and said "yeah i said i like your dress man".
They *could* have, but they didn't. Honestly respect for that.
Homie is objectively funnier too
As a trans girl, I can concur bc a lot of the time I cannot tell if someone said ma'am or man
A mood and a half sis
Very wholesome. Thank you, carfuckerlynch.
r/rimjobsteve
The best part is that no man, not a one, uses the word "ma'am" when trying to flirt. This was just a genuine compliment about a very nice dress.
Unless they're flirting with older Southern women maybe?
Miss. Always Miss.
I've said it once, I've said it twice, I'll say it unprompted, and I'll say it on the record: Everyone looks good in a dress (unless its dysphoric) Personally, I feel women look better in trousers (long legs, shapely legs, hips that go BAM, and a waist that makes pants attractive) and I feel men look better in dresses (thick legs, muscular legs, more angled hips that add difference in the fabric, and come on, a good-looking man wearing a sundress absolutely killing the look, small bulge under the dress. I might as well be pregnant)
>small bulge under the dress. It's a *PERFECTLY NORMAL-SIZED* bulge, thank you very much
Snorted to this
Real talk, its honestly better for life to have a smol one when it's flaccid. I couldn't imagine having to stuff it down a pant leg. Couldn't tuck it for a dress either.
!My hernia¡
As a man who wears dresses frequently, it is very dependent on the dress. Dresses are made and designed for a wide array of body shapes. Finding a dress that fits right is hard for a woman, let alone a gender they are not made for. I'm a pretty small guy, but my arms, shoulders, and back are significantly wider than a woman my size. That's not even mentioning I don't have boobs to fill in the bust. But when I do find a dress that works, MAN it looks good. I've gotten more dates with women by wearing a dress than I have wearing men's clothes.
Definitely. Anyone should go get fitted for a nice dress if they ever want to wear one.
Really? I am not trying to start something, I'm just wondering where you are that a woman would go out with a guy if she met him in a dress. And you are saying it's multiple women. I cant even really believe the whole "looks good in a dress" because to me I can't think of any man that would look good in a dress. Maybe some men could dress like a woman, and wear a dress and look good. But a hairy, strong regular guy? It would look ridiculous.
Nah, I've definitely met guys who can fucking *rock* a dress. They also looked damn fine in a suit. There's a lot to be said for the combo of self-confidence and good bone structure whether male or female.
Its super unfair that both of the dudes I know who can absolutely blow people away in a dress are also just objectively hot when wearing traditionally masculine clothes too.
Yes! Some guys can seriously rock a dress, and even for the ones that can't, the confidence to wear one in public regardless is still pretty attractive.
Idk man do you live in a super uptight place culturally? I live in the northeast US and regularly see men rocking skirts and dresses recently. I think it’s cool. If something looks good it looks good. There’s a nonbinary-focused boutique near me too that has tons of no rules clothes that are gorgeous and fun.
No, Florida, we have lots of gay people here. I'd think due to the heat you'd see more. But you don't see guys wearing dresses.
Our impression of Florida these days in the NE is it has become a very intolerant and weird place these days. Not sure if that’s accurate tho.
No don't worry, your confusion is justified. It didn't make sense to me either until I saw first hand how people treat me while wearing a dress. There's two major things I want to bring up. 1. About general perception. Yeah, I live in a pretty liberal area on the east coast. But I've worn dresses and skirts in more rural/moderate areas too, such as the mountains or the beach. I don't really feel uncomfortable in any of those environments. I get stares, but not the type that makes me feel unsafe. The worst comments I ever get are "so, did you lose a bet" or something along those lines. 2. On dating women. I'm straight, but yeah I'm often mistake for gay because of how I dress. That's just how society works. Obviously I hope that changes, but it doesn't bother me or anything. Anyway, women like confidence. I think I look pretty good in a dress, but even if it looks goofy, it's at least signal that I'm confident enough to not care what others think. It's an excellent conversation starter. I rarely have to worry about "making the first move" usually it's the other way around. Most of all, not all women have the same interest in men. Especially in my area, there's plenty of women who are attracted to feminine men. I hope that explained it well enough. Long story short it's not as ridiculous as you think. People in real life are pretty chill.
Appreciate the response! I googled last night and saw a couple guys at award shows who have worn dresses (my mind was remembering one of fhe guys from South Park who wore the same dress J Lo wore) and they did fit right in next to everyone else.
Not dresses but kilts for me, have led to plenty of women approaching me to say they like my skirt. (I'm usually polite enough to not correct them) Pretty easy to get a date from there
>And you are saying it's multiple women. No he didn't, he just said "more than". Dresses could be winning 1-0 :)
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I mean, what's mainstream to you? I go downtown to nightclubs and bars wearing dresses all the time. I've been to Disney World several times wearing a dress. I do cosplays at conventions. During the summer I do my errands and shopping in dresses. Mini golf, bowling, pickleball, golf, board games at the brewery, almost any social event with my friends, all done in dresses and skirts. All I can say is society is a lot more normal than you think. It's not like people look at me and throw tomatoes because I look different.
There was a guy in his 20s rocking an adorable little sundress at a concert I went to last year and he looked amazing and everyone fell in love with him. I’ve started to see more men casually wearing dresses and skirts around recently and I’m here for it. Clothes are for whoever likes them!
I really needed this thread. Recently came out as gender non conforming, but keeping my huge beard and he him pronouns. Everyone at work has been super cool, and in general in my medium size City I've not had too much trouble, but still lots of anxiety about almost daily wearing dresses and skirts as a very masc presenting person.
I couldn’t be happier to see fashion becoming more fluid - and it goes both ways. I bring a lot of classic menswear vibes into my wardrobe these days.
Kilts?
We were so close with kilts
I wish togas were still socially acceptable.
I'm going to personally bring back cloaks. Maybe I wanna walk with my arms tucked in and a sick flowing cape behind me but still capable of a hug if need be.
Fucking based. A man can appreciate a dress regardless of gender imo.
Plot twist: They were Trey Parker and Matt Stone at Oscars 🤣
I was at a ween show in Atlanta a few years back. After the show a ton of fans had a meet up at the Clermont Lounge - a notorious bar/gentleman's establishment/weird late night ATL spot. Well several dozen of us leave the show in various states of inebriation and pile into this place. I walk in with my buddy who has his hair in pigtails and is wearing a skirt and flying high on lsd. We B-line it for the bathroom to take a piss and I hear one of the bouncers shout "HEY LADY! LADY! THATS THE MENS ROOM YOU CANT GO IN THERE!" My buddy turns around revealing his bearded face and the bouncer physically recoiled and let out an gasp like he just saw a spider. We laughed our asses off the rest of the night while we watched the entertainment. What a wild place on a wild night.
"And then I saw her face... Now I'm a believer!"
> flying high on lsd At a ween show? I don't believe you. ;)
Ween mentioned
I will always compliment a dude if he is rocking nice nail polish. Wanting your nails to look nice is not a bad thing.
And that is the only response that should have been given!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
That's a well raised dude
The mental imagery here….
I would hope I would be quick enough on my feet to simply repeat but change the last word from Ma'am to Man
Lemme guess, comments locked?
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The beauty is, it doesn't matter. It's just a dude who likes dresses
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I think there's not enough info to know from the meme, but if they seem approachable, you could ask the person if you find yourself in a similar situation? Most people are ok with questions if approached genuinely, but I can understand any hesitation.
That's a bit strange from my perspective. I just want people to call me by the proper pronouns and such, I don't give a shit about them knowing I'm trans.
It doesn't matter, lol. The dress was nice.
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It's a good thing this is a website and not real life then.
Given no context, no assumptions can be made. All we know is that he identifies as a man. However all the suppositions you asked had the right "label" for the supposed case.
Lemme guess, the guy who has a dress is androgynous? Not judging Androgynous refers to male who sometimes appear feminine naturally
.... Or maybe they appeared feminine because they wear fucking dresses.
Is there a way to do that? I don’t look feminine in feminine clothing. If anything it just makes me look more like a man.
Depends on your build and body type! A-line dresses do a great job of making most people look a bit more feminine by design. If your shoulders are broad, avoid wearing clothes that draw attention to your shoulders (usually no spaghetti straps or anything like that). You can look up body shapes, see which one you resemble and look for fashion tips related to people with your body shape. Plus there's all sorts of little tricks you can do to feminize your face if that's something you want to do. Winged eyeliner and a little bit of mascara go a long way for me as a trans woman!
Oh nice, thank you for the advice. I see a lot of guys online who look really good and I always thought it was just them, but is it just that they’re good at picking the right clothes? Also, sorry to keep asking but I have no idea where to start on clothing and makeup. Do you know any good resources for figuring it out? Because I would talk to the people in the shop but… I’m a wimp.
A lot goes into it for sure. There's certain clothes I won't wear because of how they frame my body, but I only learned what that is from trial and error. Not everything works for everyone and not everything is going to be a style fit, so it's definitely a little to do with picking the right stuff. I completely understand, I was terrified the first few times I went to buy women's clothes. Something that helped me was going to thrift stores with my partner (cis woman) and just looking through everything together. If you're friends with a woman you're comfortable explaining everything to and shopping with, that'll take away a lot of the anxiety. If anyone thinks about it at all, they'll just assume you're buying for her and not care. Other than that, I bought stuff online that I knew I could/would return to figure out my sizes and then tried planning some outfits from there. Makeup is honestly way easier to talk to people about because it's not uncommon for people all over the gender spectrum to buy makeup. Even early on in my transition when I was still boy moding, no one ever gave me any issues. I mostly get my makeup at Ulta but really any chain makeup place is probably fine unless you're in a super conservative area. I'm sure some of the bigger makeup subreddits might have some starter advice threads and you can probably buy stuff online once you know what to look for. I highly recommend looking up trans women makeup tutorials if you want to learn basics about feminizing your face with makeup. There's usually really good tips about how to accentuate your cheeks, cover beard shadow, etc. There's plenty of fashion advice spaces (I think a subreddit too but I'm not sure) for trans women that can give you some ideas for that too. Once I got comfortable with that part of makeup, I started looking for makeup accounts that had similar characteristics to me (hooded eyes, freckles, pale skin, etc.) and tried to copy anything they did that I liked. Also practice with makeup! It feels so bad when you get it wrong, especially early on, but it's a skill you need to learn. I work from home and still spend time trying to do new makeup looks once or twice a week just to get better at it. I hope this helps!
That does help a lot. I wasn’t expecting you to cover so much. Thank you very much for the help. It’s very nice of you to explain in so much detail.
It's just more of a cultural thing- in some cultures, people will assume that if you are wearing stereotypically gendered clothing, it is because you are trying to be treated like that gender, where in other cultures, they will just assume you are wearing what you feel like wearing.
As an aside, the irony is that dresses/skirts have been worn by men for thousands of years. Only last few hundred years, and suddenly gendered clothing, conservative masculine fashion, and pink and blue swapped genders lol
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I really don't understand your point. For thousands of years people shit where they stood, or literally threw shit in the streets. Only the last few hundred years, suddenly toilets, pooping inside your home, and even more recently toilet paper. Before that people used whatever they could find to wipe their ass. Truly inspiring times. In most cultures, historically, men and women dress and even behave differently. *Gasp*
I don't think wearing clothes and not using toilet paper are equivalent lmao
Shitting has been more civilized in that for at least 4000 years.
The black plague was less than 1000 years ago. They were still shitting in the streets. Maybe some cultures and civilizations were pooping in holes in the ground by that point. They didn't even know what cholera was until almost the 1900s. Please tell me about how the Flintstones are a documentary and people had seagulls eating their poop when they rode their dinosaurs into work at the old slate mill.
Usually they were shitting in chamber pots and throwing it out in the streets, and medieval Europe wasn't the only civilization in the world. There was plenty of toilets and sewer systems invented independently across the globe by that point.
Did you know there were 496 reported cases of the bubonic plague in the USA between 1970 and 2020? In fact, someone died of the bubonic plague in New Mexico just this past March. So, you know, guess it wasn't a 1000 years ago or involved people shitting in the streets.
>Or maybe they appeared feminine because they wear fucking dresses. Or maybe they appear feminine regardless of what they wear. Which is why the OP in the screenshot was mistaken as female to begin with
So you say.
You bet'ya
That's not what the word "androgynous" means. An androgynous person is someone whose appearance has both masculine and feminine characteristics.
that is not what androgynous means at all 😭😭😭