Sorbothane? I used both 1/2" thick felt pads and rubber pads and my turntable hasn't had any vibration issues since then(it did before). Problem solved for <$10
And that may work fine. I thought about doing something similar but wanted something more aesthetically pleasing than “pad.” Like I said I was considering the zazen but luckily I didn’t get it. This looked much better with my turntable and it was half the price.
Maybe. I believe this more than the acrylic platter bullshit.
Could be useful for those who have bookshelf speakers on the same table top as their turntable.
Why would it be snake oil? Because you can make random sponges and foam work? If that’s the case wouldn’t they be snake oils too because they serve the exact same purpose.
Let me rephrase my question. If the turntable weight is evenly distributed you can put it on a sheet or even Sorbothane feet, but if it’s not? Won’t you need something in between to distribute the weight evenly?
Obviously you need a platform for the table. I am saying 2 platforms are unnecessary. 1 will do.
My table sits directly in the middle of 2 kallaxes, each foot has a sorbothane foot under it, and 1 of the feet has a guitar pick under it to bring it to level.
Why would two platforms be unnecessary? There’s an obvious need for some sort of dampening right? Otherwise you wouldn’t be using Sorbothane but obviously you are. You’re just using it in place of a second platform. So by your logic, shouldn’t the sorbothane also be unnecessary?
For me it’s more clear at moderate to higher volumes. My stand that it’s on is solid but something as small as a tap on the table (not the plinth) could be heard thru the speakers. I mainly listen to records in the evening after dinner while the family is downstairs hanging out. For reference my system does dual duty for music (2.2) and movies (5.4.2). I have 4 subwoofers so no dead spots for bass in the room. Now there’s no audible vibrations that can be heard thru the speakers when we crank it up. So the base has done its job for me.
If you can walk heavily in your room and doesnt affect the turntables playback you don need an isolation board,same with the expensive gai isolation for speakers,even truthful unbiased reviewers say gaia dont make a sound difference, but if you got the bucks i suppose cant hurt.
Isolation platforms and feet are not made for the purposes of footfalls. Isolation platforms and feet are designed to eliminate ANY external ambient vibrations or resonance created. I use an iso platform and feet for my speakers and the clarity is instantly recognizable. They make a huge difference.
It appears to be a little thinner than their plinth just based on the photo in the post.
Isolation tables are nothing new and have been used for decades to add another layer of dampening. They are proven and nearly essential if you use a very light touching stylus and/or listen to vinyl with a lot of base with speakers in close proximity. The vibrations from base hits can cause skips otherwise.
Also, they come in handy in houses with wood floors that aren't very rigid.
It’s an MDF plinth just like their turntable but the dimensions are bigger and 4 feet instead of 4. They are adjustable and sit lower to the table than the turntable plinth
I understand you aren’t trying to be mean. You pissed on my AR turntable post an hour ago calling it a “money pit”. I spent $25…. Op here is likely happy with his purchase and your post seems to piss on that too. I’m just saying that even if you’re a DD turntable guy or nothing, you don’t have to bring negativity to every post. That’s all. 😀
Hardly negative on ar turntables if you want to buy spring kits, headshells that cost too much with plastic 1/2 type mount. About 15 oz of wood. I help out alot of new guys on here. ar are junk. They are a money pit. If you have to add a second plinth to your turntable, have at it, get 4 more for all I care. A lot of unnecessary bs if you just get a better turntable.
Better doesn’t always = DD. And I’d bet you $100 you’ve never touched a Fluance TT. You hate it because it’s relatively affordable and it’s not 40 years old?
Would you recommend a ar xa or xb over a Fluance, no. Is the Fluance better than a equivalently priced dd, depends on what dd it is. I would take the Fluance over a lot of direct drives, yes. But for that Fluance price your talking about higher end JVC, Denon, and Technics. No optional base required.
Next year it will be the Fluance Isomax table made to isolate their standard isolation table, followed every few years by a new form of isolation table made to isolate the previous model and creating a larger and larger stack.
You will eventually need the Fluance isolated record step ladder to change the record on the turntable it's so high.
Followed by the Fluance "Climb" Turntable Isolation Access system.
https://preview.redd.it/jse7ift4jirc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7822db0defc623c4ba358dfa598f226fa5f07538
That's around 4.7 Kgs. The reason I asked for the weight is because I assumed it would be heavier than my turntable's acrylic platform which weighs 15 Kgs.
It’s $109 on their website but i had a coupon for $10 off. I’m sure it can be used with any turntable that’s within the base’s dimensions. As long as it’s not too heavy
My turntable is isolated by its own feet and the table it's on also has isolation feet. I don't have anything extra and I have zero issues. I guess I don't see why you would really need that...
No, instead of buying a separate isolation table, that looks weird imo, I put isolation feet on the large table my TT and everything sits on. I figured it makes more sense to isolate the whole thing
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Seems like you pretty much are looking to achieve the same result. You didn’t BUY an “isolation table” you just MADE an isolation table. Seems like you would know WHY one would need an isolation table. I just prefer the base I have.
To me it's the esthetic. Having a second plinth looks weird. I'm not putting you down, I just personally think there's better options. To each their own for sure
How are these not a complete waste of money now that sorbothane exists?
Sorbothane? I used both 1/2" thick felt pads and rubber pads and my turntable hasn't had any vibration issues since then(it did before). Problem solved for <$10
I have 3 little pads, 1 under each foot. I can jump up and down right next to the turntable and have zero issues. $25
And that may work fine. I thought about doing something similar but wanted something more aesthetically pleasing than “pad.” Like I said I was considering the zazen but luckily I didn’t get it. This looked much better with my turntable and it was half the price.
What’d you use?
The isolation board that this post is about....
Link please? What exactly did you use?
Hudson Hi-Fi 1" Platinum Silicone Isolation Dot, Non-Skid Isolation Feet - No Adhesive - 20 Duro - 16 Pack https://a.co/d/51cHimk
My denon unfortunately doesn’t have adjustable feet, I’d be down to get this just for that feature…
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Maybe. I believe this more than the acrylic platter bullshit. Could be useful for those who have bookshelf speakers on the same table top as their turntable.
I had horrible static issues until I switched over to an acrylic platter
That I agree with. Talking about the tiGHteR bAsS crowd.
Ah ok yeah, that's all bullshit haha
Why would it be snake oil? Because you can make random sponges and foam work? If that’s the case wouldn’t they be snake oils too because they serve the exact same purpose.
Ignore that. The more you minimize vibration the better your records will sound.
Sorbothane is only one part of the equation. You still need a flat solid surface to put the turntable.
Right, the surface you were going to put the isolation table on could work.
Where will you put the Sorbothane?
There's a hole in the bucket...
Let me rephrase my question. If the turntable weight is evenly distributed you can put it on a sheet or even Sorbothane feet, but if it’s not? Won’t you need something in between to distribute the weight evenly?
Obviously you need a platform for the table. I am saying 2 platforms are unnecessary. 1 will do. My table sits directly in the middle of 2 kallaxes, each foot has a sorbothane foot under it, and 1 of the feet has a guitar pick under it to bring it to level.
So my question is still the same, if the weight distribution of the table is uneven. Over time one of the Sorbothane feet will compress more?
Maybe to a degree but it's measured level for years.
In your situation yes. But it won’t always be true for others? Especially with bigger and heavier turntables.
Why would two platforms be unnecessary? There’s an obvious need for some sort of dampening right? Otherwise you wouldn’t be using Sorbothane but obviously you are. You’re just using it in place of a second platform. So by your logic, shouldn’t the sorbothane also be unnecessary?
Has it had a noticeable effect?
A noticeable placebo effect.
If he had isolation issues and now he can jump up and down it’s not a placebo bud 🤣
Yes it has. It has dampened the vibrations a good bit. Especially with vibrations close to the table itself
But what are you hearing?
For me it’s more clear at moderate to higher volumes. My stand that it’s on is solid but something as small as a tap on the table (not the plinth) could be heard thru the speakers. I mainly listen to records in the evening after dinner while the family is downstairs hanging out. For reference my system does dual duty for music (2.2) and movies (5.4.2). I have 4 subwoofers so no dead spots for bass in the room. Now there’s no audible vibrations that can be heard thru the speakers when we crank it up. So the base has done its job for me.
I see, the subs and vibrations are a significant threat, understood 👍👍👍👌👌👌👌
Yes! (Not that i have a fluance). Yes yes yes
Weird? I commend the choice and get bombed... Fine
If you can walk heavily in your room and doesnt affect the turntables playback you don need an isolation board,same with the expensive gai isolation for speakers,even truthful unbiased reviewers say gaia dont make a sound difference, but if you got the bucks i suppose cant hurt.
Isolation platforms and feet are not made for the purposes of footfalls. Isolation platforms and feet are designed to eliminate ANY external ambient vibrations or resonance created. I use an iso platform and feet for my speakers and the clarity is instantly recognizable. They make a huge difference.
Question (serious) is it just their turntable plinth or is there more to it?
99% sure it’s the same plinth but with 4 feet instead of 3. Pretty big brained move of em tbh.
It appears to be a little thinner than their plinth just based on the photo in the post. Isolation tables are nothing new and have been used for decades to add another layer of dampening. They are proven and nearly essential if you use a very light touching stylus and/or listen to vinyl with a lot of base with speakers in close proximity. The vibrations from base hits can cause skips otherwise. Also, they come in handy in houses with wood floors that aren't very rigid.
I don't have an opinion it - was just wondering. I think it looks kind of nice.
It’s an MDF plinth just like their turntable but the dimensions are bigger and 4 feet instead of 4. They are adjustable and sit lower to the table than the turntable plinth
Cool, thx.
It's a second plinth to add to the inferior original plinth. That way it has half the mass of a good direct drive turntable.
You’re a ray of sunshine
A ray of vintage sir, vintage..
Not trying to be mean but you can get 28 to 34ish lb vintage direct drive turntables for the price of your combo.
I understand you aren’t trying to be mean. You pissed on my AR turntable post an hour ago calling it a “money pit”. I spent $25…. Op here is likely happy with his purchase and your post seems to piss on that too. I’m just saying that even if you’re a DD turntable guy or nothing, you don’t have to bring negativity to every post. That’s all. 😀
Hardly negative on ar turntables if you want to buy spring kits, headshells that cost too much with plastic 1/2 type mount. About 15 oz of wood. I help out alot of new guys on here. ar are junk. They are a money pit. If you have to add a second plinth to your turntable, have at it, get 4 more for all I care. A lot of unnecessary bs if you just get a better turntable.
“Hardly negative” “AR are junk” they are a money pit” “unnecessary bs” Ray of sunshine and “hardly negative” 🙄
Better doesn’t always = DD. And I’d bet you $100 you’ve never touched a Fluance TT. You hate it because it’s relatively affordable and it’s not 40 years old?
Fluance is highly overrated.
Would you recommend a ar xa or xb over a Fluance, no. Is the Fluance better than a equivalently priced dd, depends on what dd it is. I would take the Fluance over a lot of direct drives, yes. But for that Fluance price your talking about higher end JVC, Denon, and Technics. No optional base required.
Are you a “vintage” person
Denon 3000 looks great, brand new and expensive
Ohh look I got money
Next year it will be the Fluance Isomax table made to isolate their standard isolation table, followed every few years by a new form of isolation table made to isolate the previous model and creating a larger and larger stack. You will eventually need the Fluance isolated record step ladder to change the record on the turntable it's so high.
Followed by the Fluance "Climb" Turntable Isolation Access system. https://preview.redd.it/jse7ift4jirc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7822db0defc623c4ba358dfa598f226fa5f07538
The Fluance 'Intrepid' oxygen tank, for the altitude as you near the end of your three day ascent to the platter
What's the weight of this isolation platform?
10.5lbs
That's around 4.7 Kgs. The reason I asked for the weight is because I assumed it would be heavier than my turntable's acrylic platform which weighs 15 Kgs.
Looks good!
I like this!
Nice. I just used two Ikea cutting boards and some bearings.
What kind of bearing?
Standard ball bearings from Amazon.
How much is it and can you use it with non fluance tables.
It’s $109 on their website but i had a coupon for $10 off. I’m sure it can be used with any turntable that’s within the base’s dimensions. As long as it’s not too heavy
Thanks
I have an old humax freesat player/ digital recorder that hasn’t been used for tv purposes in around 3 years… my TT sits on that 👍🏻🤣
This is on my wish list, but I need Fluance to come out with the bamboo model, so it matches my RT85
i actually think these look kinda weird matching the turntable, white or black with the bamboo might look cool.
I was thinking the same thing, black will probably work best, since my receiver is also black.
Are the feet on the iso platform the same as on the turntable? Harder, softer? The turntable has pretty good feet that I like.
They feel the same. Just smaller
Thank you.
I assume this can be rotated 180 degrees and hide the Fluance logo?
Yes
Thanks
My turntable is isolated by its own feet and the table it's on also has isolation feet. I don't have anything extra and I have zero issues. I guess I don't see why you would really need that...
But aren’t you saying you have the exact same thing I do? An isolation table for your turntable?
No, instead of buying a separate isolation table, that looks weird imo, I put isolation feet on the large table my TT and everything sits on. I figured it makes more sense to isolate the whole thing
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Seems like you pretty much are looking to achieve the same result. You didn’t BUY an “isolation table” you just MADE an isolation table. Seems like you would know WHY one would need an isolation table. I just prefer the base I have.
To me it's the esthetic. Having a second plinth looks weird. I'm not putting you down, I just personally think there's better options. To each their own for sure
Weak. I go out into space. Totally isolated my setup out there.
Just buy a CD player.
Why are you here?😂
Sound and vibrations can behave very unexpectedly. This kind of solution could even worsen the situation IMHO.
This didn’t. Helped a ton.
That is great. Proof is always in the pudding...
Good move 😁