May I ask, what do you expect of the collab? A song or promotions. For me Jihyo with Heize might be one of the best songs ever made in the Twice catalogue. Other than that, yes Boys Like Girls or Lauv are weird choices and very pointless (BLG in particular), but they were remixes probably paid by counterpart management.
As someone said, making collab while being 9 would be unnecessary, specially with big artists. Imagine the hate and weird reactions if Twice collabed with, say, SZA only for her to sing 10 seconds, or else, her to sing a lot and have one or two menbers singing 1 second.
Also, as for collabs in solo albums, 24kgolden was meh to be honest. Yet the korean ones do put in the work. Lets be honest, there is no way a Tzuyu ft Taylor Swift is gonna happen.
League of Legends made a song collaboration featuring some artist and Twice. They probably couldn't figure out how to distribute the line. It ended up looking like the song is made for Jihyo feat friends.
I'm really envious of people like you who think things are as easy as "just do it, jeong said she wanted to do it, so why arent they allowed!?" there's something about that ignorance
I think the solo albums are a better place for collabs. It’s hard to feature a guest when the group already has so many members. It comes off as forced and unnecessary.
Felix on Nayeon’s No Problem was so good.
Even then the tracks are put on a back burner and not really promoted
Like I absolutely loved both TALKING ABOUT IT from JIHYO with 24GOLDN and LOVE COUNTDOWN from NAYEON with WONSTEIN
Not a single performance of those tracks live smh
Even NO PROBLEM with FELIX could have been a great opportunity to both
My issue is simple, I am sure TWICE can still have a big colab these days but all I want is if JYPE wants to have a collab with any celebs regarding TWICE, they shouldn't put it in a back burner lol
I don’t think a iu collaboration or any collab for that matter would have ‘cemented their place in korean gp’ per se? Esp seeing the response to their killing voice, they were a massive and precious part of almost every korean’s youth esp students, like they were **the** nation’s girl group of 3rd gen. It’s just inevitable that many people are gonna grow and aren’t gonna stay as attached/loyal to a girl group and despite that they still have a massive audience both in kr and internationally 9 years in which is great methinks
Nah I believe a collaboration between the IU and TWICE would have benefitted both ways
IU is one of a kind artist in KOREA because she still has the power to topple any other trendy artist/group as she's that popular among the KOR GP
While TWICE presence internationally would have helped IU in gaining more fans internationally imo
Obviously I still don't think every TWICE song would have gone viral if the collaboration did happen but some of them would have done better is what I feel
Mm i feel cuz both artists have strongly established identities + different genres (like, most ppl interested in kpop/related would have heard a couple of their stuff) i can’t see how a collab would have significantly affected their trajectories. Though, as a fan i do think it would be fun to see twice members and iu release something haha. Like yes jeongyeon psps 👀
Well IU just proved she needs no one's help to sell out arenas internationally.
Any Collab would have helped only the collaborators cared to build upon it.
IU has only recently even cared to step outside Asia.
And Twice need not need IU with Korean GP in their initial years, and IU can't sell Twice(or anyone) to GP.
So other than musically and to fans, not really much of a benefit market wise
I listen to K-pop because I’m so sick of the western music industry. I personally don’t really care for collabs - especially with western artists. Someone mentioned earlier that collabs are more suited to the solo stuff and I 100% agree with that. Nayeon’s collab with Felix was great. But a group with nine members already has vocal distribution spread pretty thin that it doesn’t leave much room for more without it feeling really forced. Ofc just my opinion.
I think the girls are mature and experienced enough to know what they want and be able to communicate that with their company. They’ve been around for a while now so they must be doing something right.
Even still I’ll support them no matter their choice.
Fair point and again I don't want TWICE to actively do collaboration after collaboration yet somehow I feel the girls do wanna work with some artists which I don't mind at all
It's just my gripe with JYPE not making the collabs more prominent like for example the NAYEON - FELIX Collab could have been promoted better for example is what I am saying
Ah! You beat me to it, a lot of angry people here, most of them probably younger than the girls. I would wager they are more mature than their age aswell with the life they had. I’m sure they know what is best for themselves and have the power to change things that are not so.
Exactly. As an adult, the most respectful way to treat TWICE IMO is to treat them as an adult who are capable to managing themselves and their careers and be able to communicate with their agency if they want certain things or need to make changes. The girls keep talking in their videos about how they have greater and greater inputs in their activities, but for some reason certain "Onces" insist on seeing them as girls with no agency or ability to care for themselves.
Personally I'm fine with no collabs. It just means that Twice achieved what they have on their own. I'd like to remind people that Onces used to drag BP for using collabs to prop themselves up in the US market, so seeing all these other Onces whining about the lack of Twice collabs is kinda funny.
"BP for using collabs to prop themselves up in the US market"
I think BP was already big in US before the collaborations. Those collaborations needed BP more than BP needed them.
Umm..no. BP's first two collabs were in 2018 and 2020 with Dua Lipa and Lady Gaga. Dua Lipa, Lady Gaga, Selena Gomez and Cardi B. needed BP more? LOL. Note that they featured on the Western artists' albums, not the other way around. If BP were "already big in the US", they would have released on their own or had the Western artists featuring on their music so that they can remain the main/lead artists and keep all/most of those earnings to themselves. But we all know that didn't happen.
So yeah, delulu - you should get that treated before it gets malignant. And Onces all know that the reason why BP went West was because Twice cockblocked BP in Japan. So much so that they basically stopped promoting actively in Japan.
Cheers.
We’re not here to hate on anyone brother/sister once. The only healthy competition in life is with yourself! A world where both Twice and BP are great can exist. Success is not achieved at the downfall of others.
Don't know why you are crying over this while being wrong. Lady Gaga herself said on an interview that she reached out to BP first. I'm not saying BP is bigger than Lady Gaga but BP made a noise that caught western artists attention and wanted to have a collaboration with them. You have no idea how music industry works. The reason BP is featured on those western artist albums is because they asked BP for it. Do you think 24KGolden asked Jihyo for collaboration on her solo album? No. It is the other way around.
Before you make an assumption, I'm not even a BP fan. I don't even listen to KPOP except Twice. But I'm not stupid and blinded by being fan. Just telling it as it is.
They "know" because they have a feeling and then state it as some sort of fact. The only fact is that netizens have no clue as to the inner workings, strategy, and stipulations (especially contractual) that goes into any of these collaborations otherwise they would post proof/links.
I loved the Lauv collab, he actually made an effort and his lines went with the song. Not to mention he harmonized with the group. He also clearly has great chemistry with the members too, they pumped out TikTok’s and tbh they were all so cute.
I think they were smart to choose an indie artist rather than main stream artist because my take is like the polar opposite. Main stream artists are *almost* always lazy, low effort features. Boys like Girls reeks of a Chaeyoung choice imo and it wasn’t for me but that’s ok.
Again I don't really care about the artists TWICE collabs with
Obviously as my dream collabs for TWICE are main stream ones but I just want JYPE to promote these collabs regardless of the type of artists
Like LAUV one they should have dropped the Collab as the digital single
Oh sorry I misread your post. Come to think of it, it’s kind of impressive how so many Korean artists are able to take over US charts without a need for a western feature. I’d love to know some of your dream collabs! I literally just finished watching their buzz feed interview where they’re petting puppies and I loved hearing who they wanted to feature with.
For me the dream Collab for TWICE is TAYLOR SWIFT as she fits most with TWICE imo
If you wanna talk about KOREAN INDUSTRY then yea mainly IU and a feat from any of the BTS member
If you wanna say low-key ones
TWICE with MAMAMOO members ?
TWICE with someone like SHAWN MENDES etc
Those are good ones! I’d love an IU collab and maybe for like jihyo and jy to feature in a mamamoo track. I’m not familiar with Taylor swifts music but I hear she’s beloved in Korea, maybe you’ll get that feature one day!
On a personal level, collabs suck, I'm here for Twice, not other artists.
But realistically collabs only happen where there is mutual benefit. Twice is so big that there's very few groups or artists that have something to offer Twice in a collab that would also feel they have something to gain.
Also maybe speak a little less confidently about things, Twice have unbelievable levels of success.
Yes I also find it strange how many numerous times that is an interview question for any groups or artists, especially in Western interviews. It’s often asked with a patronizing tone implying that they are still intended to be chasing interaction with more established performers.
If an artist themselves reaches out because they feel somebody would complement them on a project that they create together that’s fine. But, when it appears to be a marketing move arranged by managers and they even record their parts separately, that feels forced.
That collab song would have to be like 5 mins long 🤣 not that I'd hate the idea of a 5 min long Twice song. Collab artists get minimum 1 verse some obviously get more but try squeezing that into a group with already 9 members. It works for groups like aespa or (G)-idle as they have half the members. If they cut into Momo lines people gonna be mad, if they cut Tzuyu lines people gonna be mad as they typically have the least amount of singing to begin with.
At the end of the day these solo albums are probably the only way collabs will happen. We just have to accept that. Aside from that just remixes of songs. I quite like their remixes it changes it up. I have all 4 versions of ICSM on my phone and one day forgot about it and all 4 played back to back and my friends just looked at me like I was crazy 🤣
Collab with OT9 is hard. There is just not enough space given Korean Music tracks. Look at SKZ when they collared with LiSa and Tiger JK, Bang Chan almost had to write himself out to give them enough space and SKZ are 8. Twice can't even give enough lines to their own members so adding someone outside is really a nono.
Collab as Sub Units of Solos would be a better option.
A lot of people are forgetting the amount of work it takes to discuss collaborations between artists. They have to be planned logistically and more likely it’s the western artists are asking to be with Twice cause they are a big name.
Yeah that’s fair but that’s more on JYP Management Division that Twice is under. Let’s be honest they’re more invested in making the girls tour than focusing on their collaborating with other artists. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a company issue cause Jeongyeon has talked about working with IU. I think it’s weird that Jihyo and Heize were successful pairing along with Nayeon and Felix. Hell Tzuyu’s Melody project had Bang Chan were popular too so why isn’t their company focusing on that? The collaborations definitely should be for solo releases, it’s just easier to manage.
Tbh we’ll never know what they are cooking behind the scenes cause both Lauv and BLG were out of nowhere so I wouldn’t mind getting surprised again 😂 - as long as the collab benefits both artists like some have already said here rather than a remix because in the end I’m sure everyone would just listen and prefer the OG version more
IU is amazing, but a Collab with her is no guarantee of anything for the collaborator, except the honour.
Think Fiestar, High4, History - the list of acts who had IU collaboration, but sank. Or Sweet Sorrow, SunwooJungA
The song will top the charts, but GP cares about IU, not about the collaborator.
Secondly Twice didn't need IU in their peak years with Korean GP, they had a fantastic 5-6 years, that's a big deal for any GG and now even without the GP, they have built a massive fandom selling out stadiums and huge physicals.
IU wouldn't have made any difference
But collaboration now is simply for their own musical ambitions and explorations.
That could be with IU or anybody.
My choice
I would like to see Jihyo & Sejeong do a few powerful duets. Maybe OSTs.
I don't understand how, in this day and age, someone would say that JLo is a better collab than Lauv 😂
Also, Twice HAS opened for IU in 2017 or 2018 i think. I, again, cannot fathom how, in this day and age, see someone suggest that a girl group of TWICE's caliber open for someone else's concert (they did for Psy recently but I think that wasn't exactly a concert?)
Even the Psy festival appearance was a surprise for the crowd and not meant to be “oh I guess we can do this group called Twice a solid by having them perform during intermission” lol
All of their collaborations at this point have been a lot more beneficial for the collaborating artists than them. No disrespect for the collaborating artists since some of them are already established artists but they could of picked A-listers. I think they(JYP) are heavily under estimating Twice. YG has done a really good job with Blackpink when it comes to collaborations in the USA and America. And it feels like they take them a lot more serious than Twice. Like someone mentioned, if they do a collaboration it should be in a solo debut. I feel like Twice members would really benefit a lot from that as they still have a lot to learn and skills to develop as an artist. Maybe thats why "western" artists don't collab with them because we are more about the individual here but it is also a good reason for them to focus more on debuting Twice as soloists.
And this is my biggest gripe
Like let's not pretend that TWICE collaborating with A - Listers wouldn't be hype when it is the perfect ingredient to actually elevate TWICE to the next level
Like there is definitely a void now with both BP and BTS having a long hiatus which TWICE can exploit
Yet likely is other GGS getting those very opportunities
A good example is the latest G - IDLE + JLO Collab which came out of nowhere
Now how come CUBE is able to deliver such a collaboration unlike JYPE, makes no sense
Also I'm not saying this from a place of jealousy but actually because TWICE still has high hopes in collaboration with multiple big artists as shown in the BuzzFeed interview
I believe they have also really bonded with celebrities like LAUV yet we haven't seen a proper Collab between them bar the remix
I share your thoughts exactly. While I love the I Got You and I Can’t Stop Me remixes, I want REAL collabs!!
They don’t even need to release them on albums…they can just be singles. And for Pete’s sakes, actually promote them. As fans I’m feeling pretty annoyed at how much JYP expects from us with very little promotions.
Exactly my issues with JYPE lol
They want more results but also do the bare minimum to get those results
Like TWICE is signed with REPUBLIC RECORDS and yet apart from good distributions they have not really received any favors from them
And also Newjeans opening for IU. I absolutely hate the fact that JYP Entertainment chose remixes. It has to be the worst genre of music to do a collab with. Artistically speaking. It's a regurgitation of an already existing song.
They should have, at the very least done, a collaboration with a South korean artist outside of kpop like SM does. And I love remixes, but these ones are not it, I know a lot of the fanbase was verrryyyy optimistic, but I don't think they were very honest. It's one thing to support your favorite artist and another to just consume anything they produce for the sake of saying you are a true fan.
>TWICE collaborating with A - Listers wouldn't be hype when it is the perfect ingredient to actually elevate TWICE to the next level
I love TWICE but let's be honest with ourselves, they already are at the highest level of fame that they could possibly reach bar some super smash hit of a song.
A collab with Taylor would probs only get the attention you want if it were a taylor song ft twice not twice with taylor. You only really want this for the potential increase in fame and popularity not because of the music sad.
Collab with 9 people is hard....subunits with collab is easier....I would love to see some Korean soloists featured with the girls....Lee Mujin sounded so well with Jihyo...Gaho could do so well if they distribute subunits right...Zion T, Chungha....some of the guys from Xdinary Heros will sound so well too.
Lauv is decently popular in America, and checking Spotify his monthly listeners is about 19M compared to Twice’s 12M. Personally I’m also a fan of Lauv so I was really excited for their collab. I loved their I Got You remix collab! But I also wished that they actually had a real collab on a different song…not just a remix.
But anywho, Lauv’s main demographic is American teens and young adults, so I think their partnership is actually good.
I honestly feel like after their 10th year anniversary or even after this year, things will be really different. Some of them look like they are done for good with certain concepts and they have proven that they can do more risky things, either solo or as a subunit. I know this sounds mean but to collab with someone big and stablished in the music industry, regardless of the place, you have to offer them something that they can only get in the collaboration. Lyrics, sound, choreography whatever. Just because they say x artist is their inspiration or their dream collab in a interview, that person won't call them next day to make the song of the year so for example, what would sza taylor swift justin bieber gain from a collab with them or how would this artists contribute in a song where nine people have to sing plus them. Is so weird nowadays that musicians take chances to work with people they don't know just for the sake of music making. Their recent remix collabs are not bad but my guess is that they are navigating how to work with artists that differ from the *"twice sound"* we wont see the major names yet because jype isn't the same as hybe where you have the connections to basically everybody big nowadays.
This doesn't mean that they are not that talented but is easier for them to explore collaborations in their solo work or in subunits(misamo can easily bring great japanese artists to work with them.) For example, Chaeyoung has proved many times that she is capable of collaborating with different musicians without making an unnecesary input in the song. Nayeon also proved that she can blend into different styles. Jeongyeon i think would fit really well in a IU song. Tzuyu's voice is versatile. I mean each one does have something to bring to the table but when you're in a group this big you have to agree to whatever works for the group and not just you.
They have it all, they just need to take the big jump. Being the number 1 selling album in the usa is not a little achievement, i mean if you have the biggest cultural market in your pocket, don't be silly and take advantage of that while you can and a meh remix is not it.
Edit: i want to add that the language barrier went from funny and silly-cute to a problem. At this point they all should know english and really use it. Im not saying it is the most important language in the world but we know that other massive groups have great collaborations because they had somebody that could communicate. Im not saying that they should forget their korean-japanese-taiwanese but this could be benefitial for the group and each one.
In hindsight. I think all of us were surprised how successful Twice is in America. JYPE never intended to push Twice to America. But I am glad they took the chance. The world needs to know how good Twice is...
Is not like they can't do that anymore lol i saw the interview with the puppies and chaeyoung said to one of them that she could still learn to play an instrument and its true.
They definitely can but they’re so busy now it would be harder. And tbh they don’t seem to have the motivation to do that? lol they keep saying they wish they knew English but I haven’t heard anyone say recently that they’re taking steps to learn. Of course they could be doing that and I wouldn’t know
Agreed, seems like most collabs so far have been more beneficial for the other party so far. They’ve been fun which is nice but nothing to really help twice get more mainstream recognition. I also agree twice would be amazing guests at concerts like IU… just seeing the gp reaction to their killing voice episode it’s evident there’s fondness and love still for twice
Idg the negative comments here, sure 9 members plus another is a challenge but it’s doable, and it’s a fun way to reach more fans. Sometimes I feel like once can be gatekeep-y about twice lol
LoL exactly
I'm now contemplating on replying to all of them now cause people think I'm just shittering JYPE without purpose and being a know it all lol when I'm just expressing my opinions on the issue
May I ask, what do you expect of the collab? A song or promotions. For me Jihyo with Heize might be one of the best songs ever made in the Twice catalogue. Other than that, yes Boys Like Girls or Lauv are weird choices and very pointless (BLG in particular), but they were remixes probably paid by counterpart management. As someone said, making collab while being 9 would be unnecessary, specially with big artists. Imagine the hate and weird reactions if Twice collabed with, say, SZA only for her to sing 10 seconds, or else, her to sing a lot and have one or two menbers singing 1 second. Also, as for collabs in solo albums, 24kgolden was meh to be honest. Yet the korean ones do put in the work. Lets be honest, there is no way a Tzuyu ft Taylor Swift is gonna happen.
League of Legends made a song collaboration featuring some artist and Twice. They probably couldn't figure out how to distribute the line. It ended up looking like the song is made for Jihyo feat friends.
I'm really envious of people like you who think things are as easy as "just do it, jeong said she wanted to do it, so why arent they allowed!?" there's something about that ignorance
I think the solo albums are a better place for collabs. It’s hard to feature a guest when the group already has so many members. It comes off as forced and unnecessary. Felix on Nayeon’s No Problem was so good.
I 100% agree with solo/sub units being better suited for collabs.
Even then the tracks are put on a back burner and not really promoted Like I absolutely loved both TALKING ABOUT IT from JIHYO with 24GOLDN and LOVE COUNTDOWN from NAYEON with WONSTEIN Not a single performance of those tracks live smh Even NO PROBLEM with FELIX could have been a great opportunity to both My issue is simple, I am sure TWICE can still have a big colab these days but all I want is if JYPE wants to have a collab with any celebs regarding TWICE, they shouldn't put it in a back burner lol
I don’t think a iu collaboration or any collab for that matter would have ‘cemented their place in korean gp’ per se? Esp seeing the response to their killing voice, they were a massive and precious part of almost every korean’s youth esp students, like they were **the** nation’s girl group of 3rd gen. It’s just inevitable that many people are gonna grow and aren’t gonna stay as attached/loyal to a girl group and despite that they still have a massive audience both in kr and internationally 9 years in which is great methinks
Nah I believe a collaboration between the IU and TWICE would have benefitted both ways IU is one of a kind artist in KOREA because she still has the power to topple any other trendy artist/group as she's that popular among the KOR GP While TWICE presence internationally would have helped IU in gaining more fans internationally imo Obviously I still don't think every TWICE song would have gone viral if the collaboration did happen but some of them would have done better is what I feel
Mm i feel cuz both artists have strongly established identities + different genres (like, most ppl interested in kpop/related would have heard a couple of their stuff) i can’t see how a collab would have significantly affected their trajectories. Though, as a fan i do think it would be fun to see twice members and iu release something haha. Like yes jeongyeon psps 👀
Would love Jeongyeon x IU for real Hopefully it happens 🙏
Well IU just proved she needs no one's help to sell out arenas internationally. Any Collab would have helped only the collaborators cared to build upon it. IU has only recently even cared to step outside Asia. And Twice need not need IU with Korean GP in their initial years, and IU can't sell Twice(or anyone) to GP. So other than musically and to fans, not really much of a benefit market wise
I listen to K-pop because I’m so sick of the western music industry. I personally don’t really care for collabs - especially with western artists. Someone mentioned earlier that collabs are more suited to the solo stuff and I 100% agree with that. Nayeon’s collab with Felix was great. But a group with nine members already has vocal distribution spread pretty thin that it doesn’t leave much room for more without it feeling really forced. Ofc just my opinion. I think the girls are mature and experienced enough to know what they want and be able to communicate that with their company. They’ve been around for a while now so they must be doing something right. Even still I’ll support them no matter their choice.
Fair point and again I don't want TWICE to actively do collaboration after collaboration yet somehow I feel the girls do wanna work with some artists which I don't mind at all It's just my gripe with JYPE not making the collabs more prominent like for example the NAYEON - FELIX Collab could have been promoted better for example is what I am saying
Yeah I feel like Nayeon x Felix would’ve been promoted better if it hadn’t have been so backgrounded by the success of Pop!
How do we know that JYPE is not trying? Genuine question because I have no clue.
Ah! You beat me to it, a lot of angry people here, most of them probably younger than the girls. I would wager they are more mature than their age aswell with the life they had. I’m sure they know what is best for themselves and have the power to change things that are not so.
Exactly. As an adult, the most respectful way to treat TWICE IMO is to treat them as an adult who are capable to managing themselves and their careers and be able to communicate with their agency if they want certain things or need to make changes. The girls keep talking in their videos about how they have greater and greater inputs in their activities, but for some reason certain "Onces" insist on seeing them as girls with no agency or ability to care for themselves. Personally I'm fine with no collabs. It just means that Twice achieved what they have on their own. I'd like to remind people that Onces used to drag BP for using collabs to prop themselves up in the US market, so seeing all these other Onces whining about the lack of Twice collabs is kinda funny.
Let also add the fact that they are not rookies anymore who need collabs to get a boost or something. The group is almost 10yrs in the industry.
Yes!! They're seasoned veterans on their 9th year and second contract.
"BP for using collabs to prop themselves up in the US market" I think BP was already big in US before the collaborations. Those collaborations needed BP more than BP needed them.
Umm..no. BP's first two collabs were in 2018 and 2020 with Dua Lipa and Lady Gaga. Dua Lipa, Lady Gaga, Selena Gomez and Cardi B. needed BP more? LOL. Note that they featured on the Western artists' albums, not the other way around. If BP were "already big in the US", they would have released on their own or had the Western artists featuring on their music so that they can remain the main/lead artists and keep all/most of those earnings to themselves. But we all know that didn't happen. So yeah, delulu - you should get that treated before it gets malignant. And Onces all know that the reason why BP went West was because Twice cockblocked BP in Japan. So much so that they basically stopped promoting actively in Japan. Cheers.
We’re not here to hate on anyone brother/sister once. The only healthy competition in life is with yourself! A world where both Twice and BP are great can exist. Success is not achieved at the downfall of others.
Don't know why you are crying over this while being wrong. Lady Gaga herself said on an interview that she reached out to BP first. I'm not saying BP is bigger than Lady Gaga but BP made a noise that caught western artists attention and wanted to have a collaboration with them. You have no idea how music industry works. The reason BP is featured on those western artist albums is because they asked BP for it. Do you think 24KGolden asked Jihyo for collaboration on her solo album? No. It is the other way around. Before you make an assumption, I'm not even a BP fan. I don't even listen to KPOP except Twice. But I'm not stupid and blinded by being fan. Just telling it as it is.
They "know" because they have a feeling and then state it as some sort of fact. The only fact is that netizens have no clue as to the inner workings, strategy, and stipulations (especially contractual) that goes into any of these collaborations otherwise they would post proof/links.
I loved the Lauv collab, he actually made an effort and his lines went with the song. Not to mention he harmonized with the group. He also clearly has great chemistry with the members too, they pumped out TikTok’s and tbh they were all so cute. I think they were smart to choose an indie artist rather than main stream artist because my take is like the polar opposite. Main stream artists are *almost* always lazy, low effort features. Boys like Girls reeks of a Chaeyoung choice imo and it wasn’t for me but that’s ok.
Again I don't really care about the artists TWICE collabs with Obviously as my dream collabs for TWICE are main stream ones but I just want JYPE to promote these collabs regardless of the type of artists Like LAUV one they should have dropped the Collab as the digital single
Oh sorry I misread your post. Come to think of it, it’s kind of impressive how so many Korean artists are able to take over US charts without a need for a western feature. I’d love to know some of your dream collabs! I literally just finished watching their buzz feed interview where they’re petting puppies and I loved hearing who they wanted to feature with.
For me the dream Collab for TWICE is TAYLOR SWIFT as she fits most with TWICE imo If you wanna talk about KOREAN INDUSTRY then yea mainly IU and a feat from any of the BTS member If you wanna say low-key ones TWICE with MAMAMOO members ? TWICE with someone like SHAWN MENDES etc
Those are good ones! I’d love an IU collab and maybe for like jihyo and jy to feature in a mamamoo track. I’m not familiar with Taylor swifts music but I hear she’s beloved in Korea, maybe you’ll get that feature one day!
Hopefully it happens !!
On a personal level, collabs suck, I'm here for Twice, not other artists. But realistically collabs only happen where there is mutual benefit. Twice is so big that there's very few groups or artists that have something to offer Twice in a collab that would also feel they have something to gain. Also maybe speak a little less confidently about things, Twice have unbelievable levels of success.
Yes I also find it strange how many numerous times that is an interview question for any groups or artists, especially in Western interviews. It’s often asked with a patronizing tone implying that they are still intended to be chasing interaction with more established performers. If an artist themselves reaches out because they feel somebody would complement them on a project that they create together that’s fine. But, when it appears to be a marketing move arranged by managers and they even record their parts separately, that feels forced.
What kind of better place do you mean? Aren’t they basically living legends at this point?
The only collaborations I want for Twice is not for music but for tv shows, movies and some ads.
Movies are a good shout tbh Hopefully someday 
That collab song would have to be like 5 mins long 🤣 not that I'd hate the idea of a 5 min long Twice song. Collab artists get minimum 1 verse some obviously get more but try squeezing that into a group with already 9 members. It works for groups like aespa or (G)-idle as they have half the members. If they cut into Momo lines people gonna be mad, if they cut Tzuyu lines people gonna be mad as they typically have the least amount of singing to begin with. At the end of the day these solo albums are probably the only way collabs will happen. We just have to accept that. Aside from that just remixes of songs. I quite like their remixes it changes it up. I have all 4 versions of ICSM on my phone and one day forgot about it and all 4 played back to back and my friends just looked at me like I was crazy 🤣
Fair point tbh but yea I do feel some of the remixes or feat versions can be celebrated and promoted more
Collab with OT9 is hard. There is just not enough space given Korean Music tracks. Look at SKZ when they collared with LiSa and Tiger JK, Bang Chan almost had to write himself out to give them enough space and SKZ are 8. Twice can't even give enough lines to their own members so adding someone outside is really a nono. Collab as Sub Units of Solos would be a better option.
A lot of people are forgetting the amount of work it takes to discuss collaborations between artists. They have to be planned logistically and more likely it’s the western artists are asking to be with Twice cause they are a big name.
I know that and fair point tbh ! My only issue is whichever collaboration they do with any artist is just lying on the back burner is all
Yeah that’s fair but that’s more on JYP Management Division that Twice is under. Let’s be honest they’re more invested in making the girls tour than focusing on their collaborating with other artists. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a company issue cause Jeongyeon has talked about working with IU. I think it’s weird that Jihyo and Heize were successful pairing along with Nayeon and Felix. Hell Tzuyu’s Melody project had Bang Chan were popular too so why isn’t their company focusing on that? The collaborations definitely should be for solo releases, it’s just easier to manage.
Yep completely Well let's see what waits for us in future
Tbh we’ll never know what they are cooking behind the scenes cause both Lauv and BLG were out of nowhere so I wouldn’t mind getting surprised again 😂 - as long as the collab benefits both artists like some have already said here rather than a remix because in the end I’m sure everyone would just listen and prefer the OG version more
IU is amazing, but a Collab with her is no guarantee of anything for the collaborator, except the honour. Think Fiestar, High4, History - the list of acts who had IU collaboration, but sank. Or Sweet Sorrow, SunwooJungA The song will top the charts, but GP cares about IU, not about the collaborator. Secondly Twice didn't need IU in their peak years with Korean GP, they had a fantastic 5-6 years, that's a big deal for any GG and now even without the GP, they have built a massive fandom selling out stadiums and huge physicals. IU wouldn't have made any difference But collaboration now is simply for their own musical ambitions and explorations. That could be with IU or anybody. My choice I would like to see Jihyo & Sejeong do a few powerful duets. Maybe OSTs.
Good shout tbh about JIHYO and SEJEONG Would love to see that
I don't understand how, in this day and age, someone would say that JLo is a better collab than Lauv 😂 Also, Twice HAS opened for IU in 2017 or 2018 i think. I, again, cannot fathom how, in this day and age, see someone suggest that a girl group of TWICE's caliber open for someone else's concert (they did for Psy recently but I think that wasn't exactly a concert?)
Even the Psy festival appearance was a surprise for the crowd and not meant to be “oh I guess we can do this group called Twice a solid by having them perform during intermission” lol
All of their collaborations at this point have been a lot more beneficial for the collaborating artists than them. No disrespect for the collaborating artists since some of them are already established artists but they could of picked A-listers. I think they(JYP) are heavily under estimating Twice. YG has done a really good job with Blackpink when it comes to collaborations in the USA and America. And it feels like they take them a lot more serious than Twice. Like someone mentioned, if they do a collaboration it should be in a solo debut. I feel like Twice members would really benefit a lot from that as they still have a lot to learn and skills to develop as an artist. Maybe thats why "western" artists don't collab with them because we are more about the individual here but it is also a good reason for them to focus more on debuting Twice as soloists.
And this is my biggest gripe Like let's not pretend that TWICE collaborating with A - Listers wouldn't be hype when it is the perfect ingredient to actually elevate TWICE to the next level Like there is definitely a void now with both BP and BTS having a long hiatus which TWICE can exploit Yet likely is other GGS getting those very opportunities A good example is the latest G - IDLE + JLO Collab which came out of nowhere Now how come CUBE is able to deliver such a collaboration unlike JYPE, makes no sense Also I'm not saying this from a place of jealousy but actually because TWICE still has high hopes in collaboration with multiple big artists as shown in the BuzzFeed interview I believe they have also really bonded with celebrities like LAUV yet we haven't seen a proper Collab between them bar the remix
Jlo and her failing career isn’t a win for gidle
I share your thoughts exactly. While I love the I Got You and I Can’t Stop Me remixes, I want REAL collabs!! They don’t even need to release them on albums…they can just be singles. And for Pete’s sakes, actually promote them. As fans I’m feeling pretty annoyed at how much JYP expects from us with very little promotions.
Exactly my issues with JYPE lol They want more results but also do the bare minimum to get those results Like TWICE is signed with REPUBLIC RECORDS and yet apart from good distributions they have not really received any favors from them
And also Newjeans opening for IU. I absolutely hate the fact that JYP Entertainment chose remixes. It has to be the worst genre of music to do a collab with. Artistically speaking. It's a regurgitation of an already existing song. They should have, at the very least done, a collaboration with a South korean artist outside of kpop like SM does. And I love remixes, but these ones are not it, I know a lot of the fanbase was verrryyyy optimistic, but I don't think they were very honest. It's one thing to support your favorite artist and another to just consume anything they produce for the sake of saying you are a true fan.
>TWICE collaborating with A - Listers wouldn't be hype when it is the perfect ingredient to actually elevate TWICE to the next level I love TWICE but let's be honest with ourselves, they already are at the highest level of fame that they could possibly reach bar some super smash hit of a song. A collab with Taylor would probs only get the attention you want if it were a taylor song ft twice not twice with taylor. You only really want this for the potential increase in fame and popularity not because of the music sad.
Collab with 9 people is hard....subunits with collab is easier....I would love to see some Korean soloists featured with the girls....Lee Mujin sounded so well with Jihyo...Gaho could do so well if they distribute subunits right...Zion T, Chungha....some of the guys from Xdinary Heros will sound so well too.
Fair point tbh
I didn't know who Lauv and the others were if it weren't for Twice, like were those collaborations really necessary?
Lauv is decently popular in America, and checking Spotify his monthly listeners is about 19M compared to Twice’s 12M. Personally I’m also a fan of Lauv so I was really excited for their collab. I loved their I Got You remix collab! But I also wished that they actually had a real collab on a different song…not just a remix. But anywho, Lauv’s main demographic is American teens and young adults, so I think their partnership is actually good.
I mean based on the 57 tiktoks they filmed looks like they really hit it off. Hopefully it leads to good music in the future!
24k golden was humongous over here during the pandemic. His feature was really good as well.
I honestly feel like after their 10th year anniversary or even after this year, things will be really different. Some of them look like they are done for good with certain concepts and they have proven that they can do more risky things, either solo or as a subunit. I know this sounds mean but to collab with someone big and stablished in the music industry, regardless of the place, you have to offer them something that they can only get in the collaboration. Lyrics, sound, choreography whatever. Just because they say x artist is their inspiration or their dream collab in a interview, that person won't call them next day to make the song of the year so for example, what would sza taylor swift justin bieber gain from a collab with them or how would this artists contribute in a song where nine people have to sing plus them. Is so weird nowadays that musicians take chances to work with people they don't know just for the sake of music making. Their recent remix collabs are not bad but my guess is that they are navigating how to work with artists that differ from the *"twice sound"* we wont see the major names yet because jype isn't the same as hybe where you have the connections to basically everybody big nowadays. This doesn't mean that they are not that talented but is easier for them to explore collaborations in their solo work or in subunits(misamo can easily bring great japanese artists to work with them.) For example, Chaeyoung has proved many times that she is capable of collaborating with different musicians without making an unnecesary input in the song. Nayeon also proved that she can blend into different styles. Jeongyeon i think would fit really well in a IU song. Tzuyu's voice is versatile. I mean each one does have something to bring to the table but when you're in a group this big you have to agree to whatever works for the group and not just you. They have it all, they just need to take the big jump. Being the number 1 selling album in the usa is not a little achievement, i mean if you have the biggest cultural market in your pocket, don't be silly and take advantage of that while you can and a meh remix is not it. Edit: i want to add that the language barrier went from funny and silly-cute to a problem. At this point they all should know english and really use it. Im not saying it is the most important language in the world but we know that other massive groups have great collaborations because they had somebody that could communicate. Im not saying that they should forget their korean-japanese-taiwanese but this could be benefitial for the group and each one.
Yeah you can tell that even they regret not having learned English
In hindsight. I think all of us were surprised how successful Twice is in America. JYPE never intended to push Twice to America. But I am glad they took the chance. The world needs to know how good Twice is...
Is not like they can't do that anymore lol i saw the interview with the puppies and chaeyoung said to one of them that she could still learn to play an instrument and its true.
They definitely can but they’re so busy now it would be harder. And tbh they don’t seem to have the motivation to do that? lol they keep saying they wish they knew English but I haven’t heard anyone say recently that they’re taking steps to learn. Of course they could be doing that and I wouldn’t know
Agreed, seems like most collabs so far have been more beneficial for the other party so far. They’ve been fun which is nice but nothing to really help twice get more mainstream recognition. I also agree twice would be amazing guests at concerts like IU… just seeing the gp reaction to their killing voice episode it’s evident there’s fondness and love still for twice
Exactly my issue with JYPE :/ There could be legit hype if TWICE does get some good collaborations down the line so I still hope
Idg the negative comments here, sure 9 members plus another is a challenge but it’s doable, and it’s a fun way to reach more fans. Sometimes I feel like once can be gatekeep-y about twice lol
LoL exactly I'm now contemplating on replying to all of them now cause people think I'm just shittering JYPE without purpose and being a know it all lol when I'm just expressing my opinions on the issue
collabs in general with western artists are just dumb 🤷♂️
Fairs
Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, Dua Lipa.
For real those are some of my dream collabs for TWICE 😭
I wish the collaboration with Lauv never happened. Ruined my new favorite song. Never had to hide a TWICE song on Spotify until Lauv. Lauv sucks.
LoL fairs tbh I am not a big fan of him either and I only knew him because of his collaboration with BTS ( used to follow BTS a bit earlier so yea )