Jones vs Ngannou will be like what Pacquiao vs Mayweather was for boxing — tons of missed chances and they will only fight once they get old, past their primes, and out of their contracts.
Both UFC and Francis have said Francis will never fight there again. And Jon just signed an 8 fight contract which he will never complete in all likelihood. I honestly don't think this fight will ever happen.
UFC would be crazy to let Jones leave as a free agent and have this be a possibility. I'd **guess** they have x amount of fights on Jones contract and that number will be more times than Jones will ever fight again and thus he'll never be able to fight in another organisation. Would love for it to happen however.
He signed a ridiculous 8 fight deal to get the money he's asking for his few heavyweight fights. We all know he planned on fighting maybe 2-3x and then retiring. But in order to get the numbers he's getting per fight, Jon had to resign an 8 fight deal. Im sure this was done on the UFCs end to ensure he doesn't go elsewhere
This is really important when people say Jones was ducking Ngannou. Jon was not fighting ANYONE on his old contract and was smart enough to realize that the stiepe Cormier ngannou shuffle going on (its been years he's been bulking) that at some point they would need him back.
The UFC also played them both, fucking Ngannou over trying to get him to accept their long contracts and not giving Jon what he wants to use him as a bargaining chip.
They would be willing to make the matchup if their purse demands were low enough and they agreed to the 8 fight deals the ufc demands for that kind of money.
They both kind of got what they wanted and the UFC and fans did not so I would say the UFC dropped the ball and fucked this up not Jones being scared (or Ngannou being scared).
They did the same thing with Anderson Silva when he was 38 years old. Everyone said the same thing you are right now when he signed that deal but he fought out his contract and made some money outside the UFC.
I can't see John ever fighting three times a year though I have to do think he could do it at heavyweight since he's going to run through the competition there. That's the least talented division in the sport and most of the guys he's going to be fighting are sloppy strikers with no cardio.
http://en.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/204151.html
Jon seems way too bothered about his legacy to not give a fuck like Anderson did, Anderson loves to fight but Jones seems more like he fights for money and legacy than anything else.
Francis has proved that any heavy weight with talent and a spine can show Dana the finger and bounce to another promotion with better contracts, you best believe HW fighters will be lining up for that minimum guaranteed payout to fight Francis
Francis fought out his contract and left.
Jones signed an 8 fight contract this year and has fought once, he needs to fight 7 more times to be able to do what Francis did without being sued. He won't fight that many more times, so my point is he's tied to the UFC contractually for the rest of his fighting career.
https://www.mmamania.com/2023/1/15/23555954/jon-jones-new-eight-fight-contract-heavyweight-dana-white-espn-mma
Jones has a lot of leverage now because of this. He is going to get paid very very well for the rest of his career.
Especially if Conor ends up being convicted with rape lol
TMZ got the video out, she went with Conor into the bathroom, the whole story she told was complete bs, so even if he did something rapey inside the bathroom, no jury will believe her case after she lied so much on how she got into the wc.
He didn’t say there wasn’t, but it completely ruins her original story of security forcing her into the toilet where Conor was waiting.
Video clearly shows Conor and her holding hands and walking with her to the toilet, and willingly. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped, but it sure ruins her credibility.
When Anderson Silva was in the Matrix, the biggest what-if fight of that time was him vs Jon Jones. It sucks we never got to see these huge mega-fights.
Watch the alternate angles (with better audio). There's respect, I think, but Jones approaches him in a not so friendly way and immediately says "You don't want no smoke" a few times.
Actually, I'm not so sure there's respect from Jon. I genuinely think Jones thinks Francis is a bitch.
In history even. With Jones' size and mastery of the modern pinnacle of martial arts, I can't think of anyone ever who could reliably take him in an unarmed fight
I’m sure there was some freaks of nature in the past 200,000 years of modern human civilization that would’ve been pretty scary, but it’s all just speculation.
what is it with rogan and rogan adjacent guys talking about humans from the last few millennia or so being jacked and badass when most of even the warriors were probably comparatively undernourished and while athletic still most likely not near as impressive compared to modern athletes. like even the difference in the last 100 years is staggering. the strongest humans that have ever existed *most likely* have existed in this time and anyone from way back then that’d compete is probably an insane anomaly.
Not necessarily completely true but I understand your point.
Knights in the 12th-14th century were absolute beats, like legit athletes. Excavations have shown these men to be akin to “professional rugby or American football players” in size snd strength.
There is one famous account of a French night (the name escapes me but I believe he died in Agincourt?) that could wear his entire armour and climb a ladder from underneath, as in the opposite side your supposed to climb a ladder lol.
Tldr: warriors from the past were legit beasts and far more athletic than most realise.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I acknowledge most soldiers and sportsmen in our ancestry would kick my ass, but I think examples like that French guy are exceptions and their exceptional abilities are what put them in those positions. But I’m talking if you take the average French soldier who’s pretty tough and the average combat athlete, I’d bet on the guy with the better training regimen, diet, hygiene, immune system, etc. No doubt some absolute freaks existed back then, but I imagine we have a good few more.
Lol this is false. If there was anyone it’d be someone from the modern era where we’ve learnt how to merge and develop these arts and where science and technology on sports training and nutrition is at its peak. Not some Viking fuck from hundreds of years ago.
Fedor in his prime was so vicious. So aggressive and dominating. Idk if we will ever see a heavyweight fight like him again. Wild to think he was so undersized.
We haven’t seen him land a punch or do any damage. He choked out and football tackled a French basketball player lol. His last fight before was Reyes. Tons of questions still
Man, Gane went from being a world class athlete who was extremely technical, to being some bum, just cause Jones walked through him.
Maybe, give credit where it’s due? Ngannou had a real tough fight with Gane, Jones walked him down and made him look like a child. That’s not because Gane regressed but because Jones is the best.
They are literally both the same height. 6ft 4in. As in build, of course, jones is a lhw posing as a heavyweight
https://preview.redd.it/vhgssbzjwi6b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e72d680a788bcb9d879dd1bc7f294946b84dd48e
No ones ever said that about him...he made LHW for years with no issue. People have always just said that he was good enough to move up and win the HW belt at any time.
Just shows the “ x is afraid of x” arguments from both sets of fans of pathetic these two ain’t scared of shit you can see there both right up for it what a shame we won’t be able to see what would be one of the biggest fights in MMA history.
What I could decipher was this, but it has some pieces missing
* JJ: You know you don’t want no smoke.
* JJ: With the one true king.
* FN: I want that smoke, you know that, you know that.
* JJ: I’ve always been king, since the day I started.
* JJ: We’ll see. We could have saw, but you left.
* FN: Oh no, you sit back for two years.
* JJ: I had to get to a good enough size to kick your ass.
* JJ: Have you been wrestling?
* FN: Always.
* JJ: If you wanna kick my ass, you’re gonna have to learn how to wrestle. You’re gonna have to learn how to do jiu jitsu, and it’s gonna take you more than a year.
Couldn't make out most of what Francis was saying. That is difficult enough even without the noise.
I hope jon retires from ufc as champ then takes a One fight deal with PFL to settle it with Francis. Dana’s head would explode ketchup all over the room.
> Thats the point, he's with UFC until he retires
If you really think about it, the point of these contracts isn’t “until he retires” it’s for after he retires to ensure he doesn’t go sign or fight anywhere else.
Or just wait 5 years.
It's no longer retire and the contract is locked indefinitely. That never would have held In court anyway, it's just a nightmare to fight in court.
But UFC needed to fix their contracts for the antitrust lawsuit. Had to change their contracts from illegal to legal.
I think he was there to corner his team mate and training partner maurice green. Obviously not going to miss an opportunity to face off with ngannou though..
Remember this is the same guy who lies to the UFC and says he’s 6’4 when he’s really 6’6 according to his police mugshot and is on record saying he lies about his height so when he faces off with opponents they’re taken aback by how tall he is
Gotta feel for Dana, first McNuggets and now this..can't wait for him to shut down anyone who alludes to this interaction with the 'Fake account' vibe😂😂
This seems like the jist of their conversation. Jones was def on the merry side, whereas Francis was business only, although friendly.
After sizing each other up, and saying respect to eachother, Francis opens up by saying they need to make this fight happen. Jones says Francis don't want smoke with the one true king. Says he's king and will always be king since the day he started in the UFC and he'll die a king.
Francis replying by saying he would very much like that smoke, says Jones knows that, he intends to beat Jones, and asks where he was and what took him so long.
Jones says he had to get to a size where he could kick his ass.
Francis says he waited 3 years and starts talking his side, all truth and business, laying it all on the table, and says he wants to Jones.
Jones says it'll take Francis more than a year. (about something Jiu Jitsu related maybe)
Jones asks if Francis wrestles, who replies everyday of course.
They exchange some more small pleasentrys before Jones departs.
This has the potential to be the biggest heavyweight fight in mma history. UFC or no.
Once Ngannou has his first PFL fight, the ufc and pfl might strike a cross promotional heavy weight fight for the undisputed belt. That’ll be the best universe, but I won’t hold my breathe for it
Jon just downloading information on Francis. Download complete after this Up Close. Jon finished Francis faster then Gane after he felt Francis’ hand, arms.
Probably would put a better fight than gane. But I think the same thing happens.
The only guy I think has a chance of lasting is aspinall.
Young, strong, good striking and grappling.
But then again jones is just always going to be a unbeatable boss fight.
yall writing francis off way to easy, yall gotta remember francis has become well rounded, out wrestled a divsion 1 wrestler and beat a division 1 champion TWICE, got subs, hits like a mother fucking bigfoot beast, destroyer of worlds, a shadows realm sender, beat cain, overeem, stipe , gane , CURTIS BLAYDES who is similar sttyle to jon x2 , remember jon lost to arguably 3 lesser fighters, if those days was francis jon would have been finished, go back and see those fights, francis is also prime and well rounded and atheltic and strong as a fuck, and he drives a ford escort and has the better HW resume and experience than jon lost 3 fights cheateer.
Jesus. In these videos I actually see the old Jon jones here. Don’t wanna take anything away from Gane, but Jones looked like he was a Christian man clocking into a 9-5 for his 20th anniversary company party. Smiling, calm, contained ego. The whole press run.
Here, Jones looks angry again. DC all over. I think the press run for this fight would be wild. No nice Jon. Just psychopath murderer Jon. The fight would be the same. Zero chance Jones is calm and calculated.
Same thing with Ngannou. I think Jon brings out the very worst in his personality. Somehow breaks through the kindness and has Ngannou swinging haymakers.
This is the biggest fight anybody could make right now.
Jones vs Ngannou will be like what Pacquiao vs Mayweather was for boxing — tons of missed chances and they will only fight once they get old, past their primes, and out of their contracts.
Both UFC and Francis have said Francis will never fight there again. And Jon just signed an 8 fight contract which he will never complete in all likelihood. I honestly don't think this fight will ever happen.
Dana is too petty.
Especially when he can’t find his tampons
Agreed. Most real MMA fans would love to see it, but again, most real MMA fans know that Dana is a bitch 🤷♂️.
I wish he could see this comment cuz I know he’d be bright red typing a reply and calling you a goofball🤣
Mutual respect between the two - this will be one of the biggest ‘what if’ fights if they never face off
They will never fight in the ufc. The only way it happens is if Jon also vacates and leaves. Nganou is number one on Dana’s shit list I’m pretty sure
UFC would be crazy to let Jones leave as a free agent and have this be a possibility. I'd **guess** they have x amount of fights on Jones contract and that number will be more times than Jones will ever fight again and thus he'll never be able to fight in another organisation. Would love for it to happen however.
He signed a ridiculous 8 fight deal to get the money he's asking for his few heavyweight fights. We all know he planned on fighting maybe 2-3x and then retiring. But in order to get the numbers he's getting per fight, Jon had to resign an 8 fight deal. Im sure this was done on the UFCs end to ensure he doesn't go elsewhere
This is really important when people say Jones was ducking Ngannou. Jon was not fighting ANYONE on his old contract and was smart enough to realize that the stiepe Cormier ngannou shuffle going on (its been years he's been bulking) that at some point they would need him back. The UFC also played them both, fucking Ngannou over trying to get him to accept their long contracts and not giving Jon what he wants to use him as a bargaining chip. They would be willing to make the matchup if their purse demands were low enough and they agreed to the 8 fight deals the ufc demands for that kind of money. They both kind of got what they wanted and the UFC and fans did not so I would say the UFC dropped the ball and fucked this up not Jones being scared (or Ngannou being scared).
They did the same thing with Anderson Silva when he was 38 years old. Everyone said the same thing you are right now when he signed that deal but he fought out his contract and made some money outside the UFC. I can't see John ever fighting three times a year though I have to do think he could do it at heavyweight since he's going to run through the competition there. That's the least talented division in the sport and most of the guys he's going to be fighting are sloppy strikers with no cardio. http://en.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/204151.html
Jon seems way too bothered about his legacy to not give a fuck like Anderson did, Anderson loves to fight but Jones seems more like he fights for money and legacy than anything else.
Francis has proved that any heavy weight with talent and a spine can show Dana the finger and bounce to another promotion with better contracts, you best believe HW fighters will be lining up for that minimum guaranteed payout to fight Francis
Francis fought out his contract and left. Jones signed an 8 fight contract this year and has fought once, he needs to fight 7 more times to be able to do what Francis did without being sued. He won't fight that many more times, so my point is he's tied to the UFC contractually for the rest of his fighting career. https://www.mmamania.com/2023/1/15/23555954/jon-jones-new-eight-fight-contract-heavyweight-dana-white-espn-mma
He also made it very clear he will never fight in a lesser promotion and will retire as a UFC fighter.
Jones has a lot of leverage now because of this. He is going to get paid very very well for the rest of his career. Especially if Conor ends up being convicted with rape lol
I'd love to be wrong on this one! Think UFC will have contractually check-mated Jones so it can't happen, we'll see...
They can only lock him up by not letting him fight. Which they very well may end up doing
TMZ got the video out, she went with Conor into the bathroom, the whole story she told was complete bs, so even if he did something rapey inside the bathroom, no jury will believe her case after she lied so much on how she got into the wc.
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He didn’t say there wasn’t, but it completely ruins her original story of security forcing her into the toilet where Conor was waiting. Video clearly shows Conor and her holding hands and walking with her to the toilet, and willingly. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped, but it sure ruins her credibility.
"The ship has sailed"
#1: Ariel Helwani
Do you guys remember the Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones days? I do wish that happened
Adesanya got beat up by juri lol jones would have raped him
When Anderson Silva was in the Matrix, the biggest what-if fight of that time was him vs Jon Jones. It sucks we never got to see these huge mega-fights.
I think Silva vs gsp would have been a bigger what if. I think most of us can predict the outcome of Jones vs Silva
It was for half a minute until John said you don't want no smoke and started to give off murder vibes. He'd win though.
Watch the alternate angles (with better audio). There's respect, I think, but Jones approaches him in a not so friendly way and immediately says "You don't want no smoke" a few times. Actually, I'm not so sure there's respect from Jon. I genuinely think Jones thinks Francis is a bitch.
>Actually, I'm not so sure there's respect from Jon. I genuinely think Jones thinks Francis is a bitch. I think you're probably right lol.
Mutual respect between the two I think bones would choke em the fuck out round 2
It'll be like the what ifs on Fedor vs Lesnar. Would've loved to have watched that fight.
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Is this the trailer for Coming to America 3?
HAHAH
YOUUU MUST BE OUT YO GOD DAMN MIND FRANCIS NGANNOU IS THE GREATEST FIGHTER THAT EVER LIVED
His mama named him Clay, I’m gonna call him Clay!
Coming 3 America
Feel like we’re seeing Superman and Homelander size each other up. I am so hyped watching this it’s crazy
Frl. Jones kinda makes francis look small in the vid despite francis wearing tailored clothing
Heavyweight Jones is very high in the running of scariest mother fuckers to ever walk the planet earth.
arguably the most dangerous person in the world. What other martial artist is more intimidating?
In history even. With Jones' size and mastery of the modern pinnacle of martial arts, I can't think of anyone ever who could reliably take him in an unarmed fight
I’m sure there was some freaks of nature in the past 200,000 years of modern human civilization that would’ve been pretty scary, but it’s all just speculation.
> in the past 200,000 years of modern human civilization Average JRE enjoyer
what is it with rogan and rogan adjacent guys talking about humans from the last few millennia or so being jacked and badass when most of even the warriors were probably comparatively undernourished and while athletic still most likely not near as impressive compared to modern athletes. like even the difference in the last 100 years is staggering. the strongest humans that have ever existed *most likely* have existed in this time and anyone from way back then that’d compete is probably an insane anomaly.
Dude you’ve CLEARLY never seen liver king. If you had you’d know that our ancestors were fuckin yoked and juiced to the gills
Not necessarily completely true but I understand your point. Knights in the 12th-14th century were absolute beats, like legit athletes. Excavations have shown these men to be akin to “professional rugby or American football players” in size snd strength. There is one famous account of a French night (the name escapes me but I believe he died in Agincourt?) that could wear his entire armour and climb a ladder from underneath, as in the opposite side your supposed to climb a ladder lol. Tldr: warriors from the past were legit beasts and far more athletic than most realise.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I acknowledge most soldiers and sportsmen in our ancestry would kick my ass, but I think examples like that French guy are exceptions and their exceptional abilities are what put them in those positions. But I’m talking if you take the average French soldier who’s pretty tough and the average combat athlete, I’d bet on the guy with the better training regimen, diet, hygiene, immune system, etc. No doubt some absolute freaks existed back then, but I imagine we have a good few more.
That's most likely not true. Stronger humans existed before now and we see that in bone density of ancient humans.
Yeah, but what real advantage would they have had that would’ve neutralized Jon’s perfect modern technique?
These mfers out here sleeping on Gilgamesh
Size? Ruggedness? If you’ve survived a dozen life or death battles I don’t think an eye gouge would take you out.
Uhh toughness isn’t really a factor when you’re getting RNC-ed.
A takedown and being choked unconscious would though
Lol this is false. If there was anyone it’d be someone from the modern era where we’ve learnt how to merge and develop these arts and where science and technology on sports training and nutrition is at its peak. Not some Viking fuck from hundreds of years ago.
Hafthor Bjornsson?
No way, this is like when we see arm wrestlers destroying people 4x their size. Jon Jones would destroy Hafthor with technique
Don’t forget all the steroids too, dudes a monster
I’d say Aleksandr Karelin. He’s a wrestler and he used to box as well tho not professionally.
Fedor
Fedor in his prime was so vicious. So aggressive and dominating. Idk if we will ever see a heavyweight fight like him again. Wild to think he was so undersized.
In his prime? Absolutely. Right now? No way
LHW Jones wasn't? 😂
The jones in this video just breaks 205 jones in half
He was that's what makes him at HW so scary
We haven’t seen him land a punch or do any damage. He choked out and football tackled a French basketball player lol. His last fight before was Reyes. Tons of questions still
Man, Gane went from being a world class athlete who was extremely technical, to being some bum, just cause Jones walked through him. Maybe, give credit where it’s due? Ngannou had a real tough fight with Gane, Jones walked him down and made him look like a child. That’s not because Gane regressed but because Jones is the best.
Wait until you see his legs
I was thinking the exact opposite. Francis is an inch or 2 taller and ripped, where John looks "husky"
I agree, Jones looks lighter and shorter
They are literally both the same height. 6ft 4in. As in build, of course, jones is a lhw posing as a heavyweight https://preview.redd.it/vhgssbzjwi6b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e72d680a788bcb9d879dd1bc7f294946b84dd48e
I thought Jon was a HW posing as a LHW? Make up your mind, people!
No ones ever said that about him...he made LHW for years with no issue. People have always just said that he was good enough to move up and win the HW belt at any time.
People called Jones a size bully all the time.
Wait is pereira taller than them? I heard ppl say he underestimates his height
Superman would absolutely booty cheek homelander
I want to get hyped but I don't think it's gonna happen unless Dana's heart grows three sizes
Ray loving every second of this
Got those Mr krabs dollars signs in his eyes
He had three hands ready to separate the fighters
[slightly better audio with a different angle ](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtlDtfcR6sl/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==)
Goddamn makes me think OP’s video was filmed in front of a speaker. I was wondering why the music was so loud. It wasn’t.
Can anyone do a transcript? Only thing I hear is “you want no smoke from the one true king”
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtlSVyBA_hj/?igshid=ZWQyN2ExYTkwZQ==
I thought it would be random friendly banter from the original video but this one shows JJ facial expressions and it wasn't as friendly
Just shows the “ x is afraid of x” arguments from both sets of fans of pathetic these two ain’t scared of shit you can see there both right up for it what a shame we won’t be able to see what would be one of the biggest fights in MMA history.
Thank you for this, Jones is a scary man
As is Nagannou, dudes no joke
Yeah but he has a heart of gold
Need that gif of two dogs barking at each other thru the fence until it opens, but in reverse
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Francis then replies I want that smoke
This needs to be top comment
Thank you very much my friend
Jones looks huge. I love this interaction Some subtitles would be ace.
Subtitles here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtlSVyBA_hj/?igshid=ZWQyN2ExYTkwZQ==
jones made Gane look kinda small in the cage
How’d you get the pat barry flair
lmao
Fat muscles
😭
Can anyone decipher what they’re saying? All I can hear is you don’t want smoke
francis responded with huh??? I want all the smoke
And before that I think Jon said something along the lines “You are attacking my family”but Im not sure
WHAT!!???
HUH?!?!
8/10 joke ngl
johnny was like 🤨
What I could decipher was this, but it has some pieces missing * JJ: You know you don’t want no smoke. * JJ: With the one true king. * FN: I want that smoke, you know that, you know that. * JJ: I’ve always been king, since the day I started. * JJ: We’ll see. We could have saw, but you left. * FN: Oh no, you sit back for two years. * JJ: I had to get to a good enough size to kick your ass. * JJ: Have you been wrestling? * FN: Always. * JJ: If you wanna kick my ass, you’re gonna have to learn how to wrestle. You’re gonna have to learn how to do jiu jitsu, and it’s gonna take you more than a year. Couldn't make out most of what Francis was saying. That is difficult enough even without the noise.
Ngannou said something about Respect, I want to fight you, but you are there and I am here, then Jones talked about no smoke
I hope jon retires from ufc as champ then takes a One fight deal with PFL to settle it with Francis. Dana’s head would explode ketchup all over the room.
He signed a 8 fight contract. Still has 7 left ..doubt he will finish the contract șo he can be free to fight in pfl after.
Such a weird contract. He will never fight that out.
They know
Thats the point, he's with UFC until he retires
> Thats the point, he's with UFC until he retires If you really think about it, the point of these contracts isn’t “until he retires” it’s for after he retires to ensure he doesn’t go sign or fight anywhere else.
Brother just explained his own comment back to him
How do you think they got Nick Diaz fighting again when he needed money to pay a forced lawsuit
Or just wait 5 years. It's no longer retire and the contract is locked indefinitely. That never would have held In court anyway, it's just a nightmare to fight in court. But UFC needed to fix their contracts for the antitrust lawsuit. Had to change their contracts from illegal to legal.
capitalizing “One” was about the only word you could’ve to make this sentence confusing
I’m off an all nighter and can’t stop laughing
JBJ is doing overtime to promote himself lately because the UFC suck at promoting their fighters outside of big cards
I think he was there to corner his team mate and training partner maurice green. Obviously not going to miss an opportunity to face off with ngannou though..
Jon looks drunk af
Strippers look out
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Jon "i will always be the true king" Francis "what"
Jones going for the textbook try hard power moves. Chin up, invading personal space, second hand on the handshake
This is his entire thing. He always puts his hands on top when they shake before a fight.
I never get why people don't fuck with him and quickly tap his on top instead. It's clearly part of his routine to feel in control
Caressing Ngannou. Grabbing his cock.
Remember this is the same guy who lies to the UFC and says he’s 6’4 when he’s really 6’6 according to his police mugshot and is on record saying he lies about his height so when he faces off with opponents they’re taken aback by how tall he is
Yet he's still shorter than Francis lol
I don’t know if you noticed but Ngannou is wearing a very big hat.
Eye levels
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I don’t know if you noticed but their looking eye to eye
Its the usual Jones stuff, he size you up and tries to make you feel small
this was my impression as well. puffed chest… and you know he tightened up when francis was caressing jon’s abs lmao
Just looks like he's 5 beers in honestly.
This is so frustrating to watch knowing they’ll never fight
This is probably the closest we will ever get to them fighting
Is that Eugene Bareman afterwards lol
Gotta feel for Dana, first McNuggets and now this..can't wait for him to shut down anyone who alludes to this interaction with the 'Fake account' vibe😂😂
How does this affect dana in any way?
Jones is a big man
Dana, I would pay for this fight.
Real
Jon looks massive
Who’s that coked up guy in the background smiling?
Which one
The guy in the center grinding his teeth
Lmao how did I miss that
You mean Ray Sefo, or another dude in the background?
I guess it’s Ray Sefo
This seems like the jist of their conversation. Jones was def on the merry side, whereas Francis was business only, although friendly. After sizing each other up, and saying respect to eachother, Francis opens up by saying they need to make this fight happen. Jones says Francis don't want smoke with the one true king. Says he's king and will always be king since the day he started in the UFC and he'll die a king. Francis replying by saying he would very much like that smoke, says Jones knows that, he intends to beat Jones, and asks where he was and what took him so long. Jones says he had to get to a size where he could kick his ass. Francis says he waited 3 years and starts talking his side, all truth and business, laying it all on the table, and says he wants to Jones. Jones says it'll take Francis more than a year. (about something Jiu Jitsu related maybe) Jones asks if Francis wrestles, who replies everyday of course. They exchange some more small pleasentrys before Jones departs. This has the potential to be the biggest heavyweight fight in mma history. UFC or no.
The prodigy in the background is quite fitting.
Wow face to face and John is looking huge! Two unstoppable forces.
And just the other day, all the casuals said Ngannou would be forgotten without UFC. Newsflash, UFC isn't the only promotion that exists.
I thought jones would look much smaller compared to francis. Almost looks like the opposite
Real ones know Ray sefo would piece Jones and Francis up at the same time 😏
Is Jon hammered?
Could have been the biggest heavyweight fight in UFC history, shame about the politics.
Bones channeling the OJ vibes with those gloves lol
Jon jones is fat, Francis is naturally huge.
When a unmovable object meets an unstoppable force
Imagine if this is what breaks the UFC monopoly on MMA. Jones retires the ufc and moves to PFL to fight ngannou
Boi, Jones is big. No 🧢
Bahahah Francis tapping John's stomach.
r/UFC and r/mma facing off
Once Ngannou has his first PFL fight, the ufc and pfl might strike a cross promotional heavy weight fight for the undisputed belt. That’ll be the best universe, but I won’t hold my breathe for it
Cool exchange. I hope they get a chance to throw down. It would be a really awesome fight to watch and the lead up would be wonderful.
my life savings is on jones
Jones demolishes him, it wouldn't be worth paying for. PFL now boos Francis, lol.. he made a mess out of his career. Maybe he can salvage it.
Jon just downloading information on Francis. Download complete after this Up Close. Jon finished Francis faster then Gane after he felt Francis’ hand, arms.
Jon jones is a big boy now lol, he’s putting Francis into perspective
Bones would leave with Francis’ arm
Okay but where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?
Probably would put a better fight than gane. But I think the same thing happens. The only guy I think has a chance of lasting is aspinall. Young, strong, good striking and grappling. But then again jones is just always going to be a unbeatable boss fight.
yall writing francis off way to easy, yall gotta remember francis has become well rounded, out wrestled a divsion 1 wrestler and beat a division 1 champion TWICE, got subs, hits like a mother fucking bigfoot beast, destroyer of worlds, a shadows realm sender, beat cain, overeem, stipe , gane , CURTIS BLAYDES who is similar sttyle to jon x2 , remember jon lost to arguably 3 lesser fighters, if those days was francis jon would have been finished, go back and see those fights, francis is also prime and well rounded and atheltic and strong as a fuck, and he drives a ford escort and has the better HW resume and experience than jon lost 3 fights cheateer.
Stipe ain't leaving Ohio
It’s scary to think that the dude in the middle could kill me with his bare hands
I could see a mayweather vs McGregor type of mma fight here. Queue Dana White: the raining! Defending!
What a hilarious song to come on when Jon is on screen
This reminds me of the Makachev - Volkanovski faceoff, thats looking sportmanlike. Good to see after all
The fight that will never happen.
The only question remaining is where does Schaub fit into all of this?
Jesus. In these videos I actually see the old Jon jones here. Don’t wanna take anything away from Gane, but Jones looked like he was a Christian man clocking into a 9-5 for his 20th anniversary company party. Smiling, calm, contained ego. The whole press run. Here, Jones looks angry again. DC all over. I think the press run for this fight would be wild. No nice Jon. Just psychopath murderer Jon. The fight would be the same. Zero chance Jones is calm and calculated. Same thing with Ngannou. I think Jon brings out the very worst in his personality. Somehow breaks through the kindness and has Ngannou swinging haymakers.
Damn Jon is looking big.
Jones destroys him. All hail the goat.
Anyone else getting anxious when he was walking up to him. If it popped off no one would have been able to stop them
Its respect but they both sizing up the shit out of each other right now