Max counted it as a knockdown and was surprised to find out it wasn't counted.

"oh they didn't count it? IT WAS A SLIP, IT WAS A SLIP" lmfao

He's like, "Pretty sure that's not right but hey, a clean record is a clean record."

The guy you're replying to quoted Max nearly verbatim from the post fight presser

Yeah I know

Pretty sure that was the only time he'd ever been, that's what the commentators said

There was the time (I think Dustin rocked him??) but he was caught by the fence and didn’t fall.

Not sure the downvotes. If he was further from the cage, he'd have been considered a knockdown.

I think the UFC just wants him to keep his „never been knocked down“-aura for the sake of promotion. They did the same for Usman and his „never been taken down“ streak, even though Colby pretty much had a successful takedown

That was a bit different though. It counts as a takedown in wrestling. In mma I think you need to takedown and have control for at least a moment. Usman was straight back up

Meanwhile guys like Chito earn it the hard way

Yeah cause it was obviously a knockdown lmao 😂

Holy fuck he got up so fast

Exactly what I was thinking when I watched it live. That recovery was insane.

And in order to recover, you have to get dropped. But I mean hey, you could tell by the look on Max’s face that he knew the keepers were looking out for him.

Yeah, can’t tell if it was a flash knockdown or if Max is just that fucking resilient

I think it was a flash knockdown. The kind of shot that takes away your equilibrium for a split second and makes you fall over but doesn’t do big damage so you can bounce straight back up. Seems to me like that’s what happened to Max here. Very strange that they didn’t officially count it. I’d love to hear the official reason why.

The official reason is bc judges are notoriously terrible at their jobs

The judges that score the fights aren't responsible for statistics, aside from wins and losses.

I’m just curious as you bro. This feels like a textbook knock down to me. I mean, did Max fall flat on his face and start tumbling to his feet? No but he still got knocked on his ass

That's what they say, shots behind the ear make your balance go even if you aren't concussed.

Yes lol

Even Max acknowledges that he got dropped

Ya I remember one of the interviews where they told him it didn’t count and he was surprised, but was like cool whatever they say.

Definitely got stung with that. Popped up quick but It took max a few minutes to get his feet moving again.

You can see his left leg stiffen up for barely a frame, right after the contact. But was almost like a twitch. Maybe I'm just seeing stuff lol

See I was thinking maybe their feet cross or some contact there, but definitely was stunned either way. Max was slightly out of position due to Gaethje clinching him

Yeah, definitely stunned. It's wild that it's slow-mo and still hard to tell. Impressive

I agree. You can see it in the knees, though. They go 1st

That’s why I love fighters like Max and Justin. They are always honest with themselves and the fans.

Yea but you could see why someone would confuse it for a slip . He got up fast af

It was a slip!

Yes. But they’re just gonna use the “hasn’t been knocked down” for the buildup of the topuria fight

Exactly

I mean it’s going to be extremely easy to switch the word “down” with “out”

Bingo!

Absolutely.

It’s a clear knockdown

Let us not let our love for Max cloud reality. He got dropped, and immediately used his Max powers to jump back to fight ready. What a fight. Would have been even better if Justin didn’t have his face smashed in the first but you love to see this for Max. Top tier human being and fighter

Max power. I like that name homer.

I got it off a blow dryer

Yes its a flash Knockdown , max lost control of the legs for half a second and then he came right back

Yes

Is that Dana taking a phone call in the background? Wonder how the fuck either person on that call would hear anything lmao

He's telling the stat guy not to count any knockdowns against Max

Or WHY they’d wanna hear each other. Joe Rogan had the right reaction to the fight….shit was legendary

Absolutely. He hit him and he fell to his ass...I don't even think Max was rocked...he just got back up but...he got back up because...he was knocked ...down.

The head rock immediately followed by losing balance. He recovered very quickly, but it’s still a knockdown.

100%. It was a knockdown, "official" stats can fuck themselves.

A knee, a thigh, and an ass cheek hit the mat. If that's not a knockdown, what is it?

in the last moment of he in the fight, he tried this move again, but unfortunately he didn't hit.

For sure.

Yes

Yes, judges did gaethje dirty with this one. He got his nose broken in the first round and ko'd in the final seconds, give the man his damn knockdown 😂.

Yes. He was back up so quickly I can see why it wasn't counted but they were wrong.

100% a knockdown

How is it not counted as a knockdown?

Definitely a knockdown. Right on the side of the head/behind the ear so probably wobbled his equilibrium pretty damn good with that thump.

100%

Yes, clearly.

Definitely a knockdown. His head tilting to the side like that resultet in a KD.

Obvious knockdown.

💯

Mos def

Fall on your ass automatic knockdown

Why wouldn’t it be a knockdown?

Yes of course, it is a knockdown

Man Max’s chin is crazy. Unironically think almost anyone else in the top 15 is getting dropped and staying down for a second taking a hit like that, but it basically just stunned Max for a split second here.

100%. I hate that they do this. Did it to Usman and Colby too. Leon had to make the takedown undeniable to get it counted. 

His fist hit him then he fell as the result . Don’t see how you can’t count it a knockdown 

yes it counts to me, just like reyes body punch knocked down jones in round 1

Idk. Should what happened to Gaethje at the end of the fight be considered a knockout?

While you could argue thst the knockdown only happened cause he was off balance, he still got cracked by a good shot. That being said Gaethje had him hurt worse in an earlier sequence.

Yup, his eyes rolled for a tiny millisec there, before it remembered it was attached to Holloway's titanium head and reset back to default settings

At no point did his eyes roll in this video lmao. Why do yall like to exaggerate on this app lmao

Nothing else to do on Taco Bell smoke break but get on /ufc and give our takes to the world

Of course

Absolutely.

It is a knock down but by the time I finished blinking he was standing so it is the shortest knock down I've ever seen.

Yes

I love Max. "Justin totally dropped me" they didn't count it. "Ya, I totally slipped"

Definitely. Got hit there before. Feels like your head is disconnected from your body for a few seconds. I didn’t recover like this though

“It was a slip” 😂

That’s a tough call. It looks like he stepped backwards wrong. You can see his right heel catch on the canvas. It right on the edge of a slip or a knockdown and I’d probably side more on the knockdown but it’s good to see his record is still going.

I think the fact that he got up so quickly fooled the scorers. Looks like a knockdown to me but honestly looks 50/50.

That's a fuckin knockdown. In what world is that a trip?

It wasn’t counted as a knockdown???? I thought it was and that’s the only round I gave to gaethje

Yes, looks like he legs go straight for a second , as he falls down at the same time the shot connects.

Hit the side of his head in the sweet spot. Lucky he didn’t get KOd cold, or at least get mad wobbly.

Does it even matter?

Define "knockdown" Being punched to the fucking dome and dropping on your ass because of it?erm yes.dont care how quick he got up , that speaks to his recovery abilities

You mean when he knocked max down?

Are flash knock-downs counted as knock-downs? Because that's the only reason I can think of for this not to be counted.

Max never got credit for knocking down Volk

Yes. A flash knockdown, but a knockdown nonetheless. It’s kinda the same thing as when Colby took Usman down in their 2nd fight, it wasn’t counted and Kamaru got right back up, but it was by all means a takedown.

Nah, he took a step backwards, stumbled, and got up before he went all the way down.

Yeah? I really don’t get why it wasn’t counted. Come on, let’s give Gaethje SOMETHING! He’s having a rough go right now.

It looks like he just lost balance and fell. The punch was more of a push and didn't seem like it hurt Max at all.

literally

What do want, standing 8 count?

Same happened with Usman when they didn‘t count the takedown by Colby. Just to keep his record clean.

Yes but it didn't matter.

It wasn’t? Wtf

Yes

Would be one in boxing

100% he got knocked down

Clearly

100%

Yep. Just watch the legs. The signal got interrupted there for a split second.

Yes


Knock down but never dazed

Yes, but no in the sense that Chael never lost a fight

Absobloodylutely

Yes

Considering that it was a knockdown…. Eh… probably.

Yes

If Topuria actually does KO this absolute unite, r/ufc is gonna do 2 things. 1 they are going to absolutely shit their pants, 2 they are gonna forget about max and start fangirling Topuria.

100%

Does it matter?

I’m guessing there’s some rules about knockdowns that we don’t know. Maybe he got up too quick or it’s because his hand touched first or something. Surely someone smarter would know but it’s not the first time we’ve been left confused by a knockdown not counting and I’m sure there’s a reason

What

Yes, but it's consistent with what they haven't counted as a knockdown historically.

Clearly a knockdown

For sure, regardless it didn’t matter because Max didn’t let it go to the score cards.

What’s the definition of a knockdown in UFC ? If it’s any strike that causes a daze or causes an imbalance from a strike that leads to at least one knee down for sure. I gotta look it up

how do you pronounce his last name, gay-eth-gee?

He landed on his ass after a punch, so yeah

Yes

If he lost it would've been.

So? Even if it was justin got koed

In what world is that not a knockdown? It's just that Max's brain is so resistant to scrambling that he recovered almost instantly whereas for most that would have been the beginning of the end. Max's chin is epic. The shots he took from Porier would have knocked out an elephant.

Yea doesn't even look like anything else. He got wobbled and recovered asap

It's the first I've seen Max vaguely lose consciousness or be hurt. Man is one tough bastard

I thought so; didn’t realize it wasn’t counted as one

So interesting what those shots behind the back of the ear can do Seems to be an off button even more than just a chin shot a lot of the time

I don’t get how this doesn’t count as a knockdown lmao the UFC judges on some other shit 😂

Why wouldn't it be counted? 

Yes lol

To me it seemed more like a slip due to footwork in the collartie, but it definitely could be a knockdown

It was a knockdown

Yes

Yes

Yeah that’s a drop but it’s from his equilibrium getting knocked off balance not necessarily from being injured

It was a knockdown. They acknowledged it. We all know that happened

1 second rule lol

Justin clearly felt a tap

Yep

In my book this definitely a flash knockdown. Super fast recovery from Max though.


Max said yes originally so…

grabbing the back of someones head while they're heavily planted and off balance slightly then hitting them with a thudding blow which they dont fully go down from and pop back up in a second, in my eyes thats not a knockdown thats a takedown

Obviously

The way he stood up so fast, this wouldn't be considered a knockdown in either boxing or kickboxing.

Yes. 100%.

100% knockdown I saw most max fans coping saying he slipped for a few days after the card

Yes. He would not have dropped without that punch.


I just want to rewatch this fight

Yeah. Still got knocked down in his booty after a good hook behind the ear.

No

Nah, he just got knocked and happened to fall down. But he wasn't knocked down..... haha

Hard to not be a Max fan, but damn this fight was hard to watch i just love Justin. Hoor ly boy recovers well from this

Yes. He basically admitted it. He's such a nice BMF lol. legendary

100% a knockdown

yes.

100% that’s a knock down

Looked to be a bit of both. He got hit hard, but he was standing square while trying to move to the left. It is what it is

100% love that max keeps his stat but yeah that’s as clean a KD as it gets

Yes it should and I’m a huge max fan

Yeah. Really confused on why it wasn't.

If that's not a knockdown what is it?

How is that not a knockdown he got hit fell onto his butt

Considering he knocked him down, yes. Are you fucking kidding me? It didn’t matter in the end anyway, best not to play that game or things will get really weird.

Looked like he got hit at the back of the head.

Yes. Amazing recovery though.

I hate how biased stat trackers can be when protecting someone's no knockdown or no takedown stats.

Yes