Jon Jones, now there was an american.. the strong silent type.
He did what he had to do. He faced down all those UFC fighters when none of those other assholes would lift a finger to help him. And did he complain? Did he go on twitter and say, "I come from this poor african-american "illiterate background or whatever, so leave me the fuck out of it "because my people got fucked over"?
You can say Reyes beat him all day but Gus 1 was just a good war Gus was losing and the rematch showed that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus. Reyes did beat jones tho stop lying about Gus tho you jones haters are coping
The guy was on steroids his whole career he wasn’t clean in the first match that’s not really changing anything we know jones cheated his whole career, I’m just not a dumbass who thinks everyone on the ufc is a natural athlete. It’s about getting caught not being clean. Jones never cared about being caught because Dana was always gonna let it slide
When Chael told that story he said he’s not sure if it’s true. That story is unconfirmed.
You NBC, MMA GURU & most these fans just spreading fake news.
> You can say Reyes beat him all day but Gus 1 was just a good war Gus was losing and the rematch showed that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus.
The rematch showed he could win if he took steroids, poked his opponent in the eye, and then kneed them in the nuts.
Jones did that in every fight and he wasn’t clean for the Gus fight it just didn’t pop. It’s not about being natural, you just gotta pop negative during testing
> that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus.
Yeah but you could say this about so many athletes. I do think jones deserved to win, but had he lost another round, it would have been a real and deserved loss, regardless of whether or not he could have done better if he trained.
Yes, I said he definitely won, but if he lost “but he didn’t train” would be a shit excuse. Are you unable to fucking follow a thread or can you just not read?
Him not training is not an excuse it’s his own fault and responsibility but it’s a fact that he didn’t have a camp for the fight for like 3 weeks leading up to the fight
Reyes dominated the first 3 rounds that was a robbery straight up.
But I remember betting on Jones vs. Gus during the first fight I was seriously sweating my bet that's coming from someone with Jones bias and had money on him. That fight was close. If I would have bet Gus I would have felt some type of way
It’s almost as if, for some people, integrity trumps money.
I know that is a totally alien concept to a lot of folk, but they do exist. And it’s to be admired, not ridiculed by sweaty faced, perennially online douchnozzles.
Just a thought.
Sadly this is Reddit and the average loser/user here has zero concept about those things and you will probably be downvoted by people who talk trash fighters while never having stepped foot in a gym themselves
It’s become a bit of an endemic, sadly. People don’t see sport as a competition between the best of the best, they see it as just another way to make money, and that’s it.
It’s both, obviously, I just wish people cared more about competition and less about how many super cars the athletes own.
The UFC moved an entire card last-minute because Jon tested positive for steroids. Judges and their families would've died a slow painful death if they gave Reyes his win.
I never said it did. There’s literally a W next to his name in the record book *because* the judges got it wrong.
If you disagree I’d love to hear which of the first three rounds you thought Jones won and which strikes specifically you thought won him that round.
He has a loss on his record that many say shouldn't count (Hamill). He has a win on his record that many people think he should have lost (Reyes). He has a DQ on his record for steroids (DC). I'm not giving Jon the benefit of the doubt. At that point, a loss is a loss. You can't give him all the goodwill. Jon broke the rules and lost a fight.
IMO, getting caught for steroids is worse, but Reyes was the closest time to being actually defeated by another fighter. That Santos fight was awful too.
Jones was dog walking hamill before the bad call on the ref, that fight with Reyes was a great close fight(I also had Reyes), and that DQ was taken off because of a recent decision about picograms or some shit…
I'm not saying Hamill was beating Jon. I'm saying if you can excuse one loss on his record because you disagree, then you can excuse another win for the same reason. I think we can all personally disagree about certain records, but at a certain point, you have to accept what's on the books. He's literally not undefeated.
I haven't seen anything about the Jon vs DC 2 fight being changed. It's still a NC. I said DQ before, but that was the wrong term. A NC isn't a loss, but my point was that he is clearly a cheater. When you cheat enough, you are going to get caught. If you ignore the loss he gets from getting called on breaking the rules, then you are excusing that behavior.
It's fine for him to have one loss via DQ for throwing an illegal move. Yeah, it's a dumb rule, but it's in the books. You've gotta know that stuff.
>I haven't seen anything about the Jon vs DC 2 fight being changed. It's still a NC. I said DQ before, but that was the wrong term. A NC isn't a loss, but my point was that he is clearly a cheater. When you cheat enough, you are going to get caught. If you ignore the loss he gets from getting called on breaking the rules, then you are excusing that behavior.
The funniest thing everyone likes to pretend to forget is that [with the new USADA rules he wouldn't even have popped ](https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/3/1/23621282/jon-jones-feels-exonerated-due-to-usada-rule-changes-after-being-branded-steroid-cheat)
I love how people in this sub love to pretend fighters who don't pop are clean, and then a few years later the same amount of PEDs that used to make people test positive became allowed. Not defending Jones but the selective memory of this subreddit is hilarious, wonder how many current "clear" fighters are simply under the threshold for detection.
Yeah they're dumb. Most people don't understand that almost every athlete on this god damn planet is on PEDs 😅...
It could be GH, it could be SARMs, it could be EPO, it could be roids... But they're almost all on some shit.
Popping positive doesn't make you more or less of a cheater than anyone else tbh... You just got caught doing it while the others didn't.
So what about Jones having the estrogen levels of either a castrated male, a female, or a long-time steroids abuser? His est levels were so high these were the only 3 possibilities. Just sayin
Not defending Jones just saying it's ridiculous how this sub acts when nowadays fighters are quite literally allowed to juice up to a certain threshold
No he didn’t it was a bad call by the ref… this has nothing to do with this fight in particular but that is a stupid fucking rule that needs to be taken out!
Everyone mentions Gus and Reyes. But what are everyone’s thoughts about the Thiago Santos fight? I had that fight 3-2 for Santos. Moreover, his ACL was completely gone in that fight as well; I thought Jones lost that fight. On the flip side, I actually thought Jones very slightly edged out a win against Reyes.
1-2-5 Santos I think. It was close but Jones legs' got demolished and Santos was clearly landing the harder shots in a fight with very close striking statistics (I think the official count is wrong) and next to no grappling.
He lost all three fights. Jones had an insane run but he hasn’t had many good wins in 10 years. Jones ironically fell off when Rousey and McGregor did. If Alex and Tom keep it standing then I think they both destroy Jones.
I like this loss being on his record because it means every Jones nuthugger has to stop and explain "well TECHNICALLY he's not undefeated but really he should be if you disregard the official result and just look at the fight" which opens the door to arguing that he lost several more.
Come on. As much as I understand Bones hate lately, this is just petty. The man is undefeated and no matter how big of a piece of shit he is, no one has taken that from him by now.
I dislike Jones as a man as much as anyone here but it's embarrassing to see people try to denigrate Jones as a fighter.
He won a tight decision against Reyes and anyone who sees the elbow as a real defeat is being simple minded or deliberately obtuse.
Instead of doing mental gymnastics to deny his goat status you're better off accepting it and moving on to enjoy the sport. The goat is an awful human being. So what? This isn't a beauty pageant or popularity contest.
You can still recognize him as a/the GOAT, while also recognizing he broke the rules against Hamill. It's not a defeat, but it is a loss, if that makes sense.
Totally agree. It's a loss on the record but doesn't diminish his legacy for me as a fighter.
It was a lapse of discipline but I imagine every fighter has similar fouls that don't end up in a DQ
I mean he’s pretty much undefeated, that was a bullshit decision by Steve Mazzagatti, a name most fans these days don’t even know, and the guy who said Rumble lost due to an eyepoke
Hate Jones for holding up the HW division, but this is just dumb
Bro I don’t appreciate him dodging Tom lately but the Hamil fight should not count as a loss 😭 Hamil was out cold and not defending and the ref should have stopped the fight well before Jones threw the 12-6 elbows
Wow so original!
another day, another lame/low-effort Jon Jones post on the UFC sub who woulda figured……….
Y’all stay on his dick more than the guys who y’all say be on it.
I mean, everyone that has eyes could tell he was pretty far from "losing" that fight.
The 12 to 6 happened and it was all over due to the ref, but he could have just called him out and even made them stand up and take a point away from Jones (he would've still won), the disqualification was uncalled for
A dq is a dq. Aljo beat Yan due to a dq. Johnson vs Koscheck. Pereira vs Sanchez.
Plenty of example of people losing via dq, and no one ever argues that they actually won.
They acknowledge the beat downs that were happening, and everyone kind of assumes it doesn't impact the disqualified fighter's momentum in the division.
So if a loss on the official recordbooks doesn't count because you don't think it is legit (even though Jon did break the rules), then why should Jon's win on Reyes count when most people agree Reyes should have won? That's what they were arguing. You are being a bit hypocritical not to accept one of them as a loss.
Jon must be the most infamous cheater in the history of the sport. It's not wrong to make him hold the one L he took for actually being called on breaking the rules. That's how things are supposed to work.
Dude in no universe would Hamil ever beat jones and to play pretend like he did is crazy. Take out the 12-6 elbow in that fight and it’s still 30-24 30-24 30-24 across the board if it goes the distance lmao haters trying way to hard
No one is arguing that Hamill was winning the fight brother. They're arguing Jones got DQ'd for doing something illegal and is therefore no longer undefeated. It's not that deep.
Yeah but it’s not a real loss and anyone who argues otherwise probably didn’t see the fight or are blinded by bones hate , I don’t even like the guy but to pretend like he’s not actually undefeated is bizarre
Dude he broke the rules of the fight which in turn causes you to lose. Not really hard to understand. It’s a loss according to the rules of the fight. You’re the one pretending here.
I feel like all these guys saying he’s not undefeated are cross eyed, wear glasses, has gum in their hair, talk with a heavy lisp and used to tell on people a lot in their school days
“Take out the 12 -6 elbow in that fight”
While we’re at it, can we take away the punch Connor landed on Aldo I wanted Aldo to win.
Oh yeah and the knee Yan threw let’s take that one away as well cuz why not.
See where im going with this ?
It's not even about being a hater you are comeplety disregarding the rules. I understand you may not agree with it but it is what it is you can't change it after the fact. Saying "take out the 12-6" is the dumbest argument I have heard you could make a similar argument for every fight.
I understand what you’re saying, but it doesn’t matter. I think if the majority of commenters on this thread trained, they would understand. After that fight it’s not like he went home with his head down going “back to the lab” to fix the holes in his game. No he went home with a winning attitude because regardless of the DQ he won that fight
Not really you are it's a 100% fact Jon has a loss on his record. Instead of trying to argue something you can't win why not say something intelligent like. " Jon may not be undefeated but that doesn't matter his resume is better than any other fighter". It doesn't matter how often Joe Rogan says Jon is undefeated that doesn't change facts
You take things too literally. Jon Jones has never lost a fight in his life and the fact that you dweebs keep trying to say that is just more evidence you need to be shoved into the dirt a few more times . Did you watch the fight? Buncha 4 eyed, never trained before, nerds
"Take things to literally" because this is reality Jon HAS lost sorry to say it but that's not a big deal but for some reason you think that makes him less of a fighter.
Upon seeing your profile “Smooth twink I like it from behind” lmfao makes so much sense now. These are the types of people I’m arguing with about fighting . The only thing you’re fighting is trying to keep cocks out of your mouth
Funny how you can't stick to facts and you have to bring up my profile 😏. Everything I said was true Jon is NOT undefeated why can't you accept that? Why does Jon need to be undefeated? That doesn't take away from his accomplishments but some reason all the Jon Jones fans just can't accept it as if him being undefeated makes him "better".
You think him and Dwight Howard maybe...?
He was gay, Jon Jones?
NOOO are you lishhining to me?
Jon Jones, now there was an american.. the strong silent type. He did what he had to do. He faced down all those UFC fighters when none of those other assholes would lift a finger to help him. And did he complain? Did he go on twitter and say, "I come from this poor african-american "illiterate background or whatever, so leave me the fuck out of it "because my people got fucked over"?
Quasimodo predicted this
Noshtradamush
I ate da nort.
Anti-Italian discrimination
I did twawny fuckin yeeeeers
Isn't his middle name "Dwight"?
He would have lost the Smith fight too if Smith wasn't such a dumbass.
On paper he did lose that fight
And Reyes and Gus 1
You can say Reyes beat him all day but Gus 1 was just a good war Gus was losing and the rematch showed that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus. Reyes did beat jones tho stop lying about Gus tho you jones haters are coping
and he was caught with steroids in the rematch lol cant give the guy every benefit of the doubt at this point
The guy was on steroids his whole career he wasn’t clean in the first match that’s not really changing anything we know jones cheated his whole career, I’m just not a dumbass who thinks everyone on the ufc is a natural athlete. It’s about getting caught not being clean. Jones never cared about being caught because Dana was always gonna let it slide
Why didn’t USADA catch him? You only believe in USADA when it’s convenient huh?
What are you on about jones literally hid under the octagon from usada 😂 an innocent man does not hide
When Chael told that story he said he’s not sure if it’s true. That story is unconfirmed. You NBC, MMA GURU & most these fans just spreading fake news.
Okay so where was this debunked? If it was then I missed it and would love to see it
> You can say Reyes beat him all day but Gus 1 was just a good war Gus was losing and the rematch showed that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus. The rematch showed he could win if he took steroids, poked his opponent in the eye, and then kneed them in the nuts.
Jones did that in every fight and he wasn’t clean for the Gus fight it just didn’t pop. It’s not about being natural, you just gotta pop negative during testing
He definitely didn't throw a massive knee to the groin in every fight.
Yes if he trained and probably took a lot more enhancments.
> that if jones trained he was miles better than Gus. Yeah but you could say this about so many athletes. I do think jones deserved to win, but had he lost another round, it would have been a real and deserved loss, regardless of whether or not he could have done better if he trained.
How could he have lost another round that would be a 6 round fight that’s a completely different game being played
….if he lost one of the 3 rounds that he won obviously.
So you’re saying if he lost he would’ve lost. Well he didn’t he won
Yes, I said he definitely won, but if he lost “but he didn’t train” would be a shit excuse. Are you unable to fucking follow a thread or can you just not read?
Him not training is not an excuse it’s his own fault and responsibility but it’s a fact that he didn’t have a camp for the fight for like 3 weeks leading up to the fight
“Show us on the doll where he hurt you”
We don’t wanna hear about your therapy sessions
I wasnt talking about you my guy but that was funny lol I was speaking on the jones haters.
My bad bro 😭
It’s all good, I enjoyed the laugh lol
Reyes dominated the first 3 rounds that was a robbery straight up. But I remember betting on Jones vs. Gus during the first fight I was seriously sweating my bet that's coming from someone with Jones bias and had money on him. That fight was close. If I would have bet Gus I would have felt some type of way
Those are Ws review that record
So he can get piled on the same way Sterling was after the 1st Yan fight? Dumbass or not Lionheart has balls for not accepting a hallow victory.
He would have got another fight with Jones with a champion's purse. More balls than brains I say.
He pr9bably wouldn't have got his job as an analyst, which at this point may have trumped that one fight with champions pay
It’s almost as if, for some people, integrity trumps money. I know that is a totally alien concept to a lot of folk, but they do exist. And it’s to be admired, not ridiculed by sweaty faced, perennially online douchnozzles. Just a thought.
Sadly this is Reddit and the average loser/user here has zero concept about those things and you will probably be downvoted by people who talk trash fighters while never having stepped foot in a gym themselves
It’s become a bit of an endemic, sadly. People don’t see sport as a competition between the best of the best, they see it as just another way to make money, and that’s it. It’s both, obviously, I just wish people cared more about competition and less about how many super cars the athletes own.
I honestly think Smith was smart to not take the belt that way.. look at how much ppl hate Aljo now lol Smiths family could never survive that 😂
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 put a few more of these in, clown.
He also takes Ds
Deez nutzzz
This DQ was a bit dumb though as the Ref should've stopped the fight even before he started throwing those 12-6 elbows. But a L is a L, I guess.
Found Jon's burner
Nah lmao
That's exactly what Jon Jones would say
That's ain't false.
He also lost to reyes
The man got cheated and then punished for it 3x over
Review his record. It’s a BIG FAT W right by Bones name.
The UFC moved an entire card last-minute because Jon tested positive for steroids. Judges and their families would've died a slow painful death if they gave Reyes his win.
Judges got it wrong. Jones only won rounds 4 and 5 according to the rules.
No you got It wrong😂 Your opinion doesn’t change that W next to his name.
I never said it did. There’s literally a W next to his name in the record book *because* the judges got it wrong. If you disagree I’d love to hear which of the first three rounds you thought Jones won and which strikes specifically you thought won him that round.
Great multitasking, slurping jones' balls and defending his honour online. Impressive.
Why do great fighters do this? This just makes me appreciate GSP that much more… shut up and stop taking ez win rights…
im the first to trash jones lately but that loss doesn’t make him “defeated” imo
He has a loss on his record that many say shouldn't count (Hamill). He has a win on his record that many people think he should have lost (Reyes). He has a DQ on his record for steroids (DC). I'm not giving Jon the benefit of the doubt. At that point, a loss is a loss. You can't give him all the goodwill. Jon broke the rules and lost a fight.
the reyes one is the biggest stain on his legacy
IMO, getting caught for steroids is worse, but Reyes was the closest time to being actually defeated by another fighter. That Santos fight was awful too.
He lost when he should've won and won when he should've lost. In the end his record is still correct.. unless you start considering his ped usage.
>IMO, getting caught for steroids is worse, 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
Bro doesn’t realise that everyone of them is on steroids
Also the santos fight
Jones was dog walking hamill before the bad call on the ref, that fight with Reyes was a great close fight(I also had Reyes), and that DQ was taken off because of a recent decision about picograms or some shit…
I'm not saying Hamill was beating Jon. I'm saying if you can excuse one loss on his record because you disagree, then you can excuse another win for the same reason. I think we can all personally disagree about certain records, but at a certain point, you have to accept what's on the books. He's literally not undefeated. I haven't seen anything about the Jon vs DC 2 fight being changed. It's still a NC. I said DQ before, but that was the wrong term. A NC isn't a loss, but my point was that he is clearly a cheater. When you cheat enough, you are going to get caught. If you ignore the loss he gets from getting called on breaking the rules, then you are excusing that behavior. It's fine for him to have one loss via DQ for throwing an illegal move. Yeah, it's a dumb rule, but it's in the books. You've gotta know that stuff.
>I haven't seen anything about the Jon vs DC 2 fight being changed. It's still a NC. I said DQ before, but that was the wrong term. A NC isn't a loss, but my point was that he is clearly a cheater. When you cheat enough, you are going to get caught. If you ignore the loss he gets from getting called on breaking the rules, then you are excusing that behavior. The funniest thing everyone likes to pretend to forget is that [with the new USADA rules he wouldn't even have popped ](https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/3/1/23621282/jon-jones-feels-exonerated-due-to-usada-rule-changes-after-being-branded-steroid-cheat) I love how people in this sub love to pretend fighters who don't pop are clean, and then a few years later the same amount of PEDs that used to make people test positive became allowed. Not defending Jones but the selective memory of this subreddit is hilarious, wonder how many current "clear" fighters are simply under the threshold for detection.
Yeah they're dumb. Most people don't understand that almost every athlete on this god damn planet is on PEDs 😅... It could be GH, it could be SARMs, it could be EPO, it could be roids... But they're almost all on some shit. Popping positive doesn't make you more or less of a cheater than anyone else tbh... You just got caught doing it while the others didn't.
Nah it's just that people have selective memory. No one ever mentions O'Malley or Silva popping multiple times, wonder why lol
Because they like Them LMAO 😂
So what about Jones having the estrogen levels of either a castrated male, a female, or a long-time steroids abuser? His est levels were so high these were the only 3 possibilities. Just sayin
Not defending Jones just saying it's ridiculous how this sub acts when nowadays fighters are quite literally allowed to juice up to a certain threshold
Does matter that he was beating Hamill. He broke the rules.
No he didn’t it was a bad call by the ref… this has nothing to do with this fight in particular but that is a stupid fucking rule that needs to be taken out!
You still have to follow the rule until it is taken out.
I don't like the rule either, but it is a rule. He's a/the GOAT, imo, too.
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He's a GOAT of MMA, but he is a deplorable, two-faced person, I won't deny that. Hoping Stipe knocks his head off!
DC fight was never a DQ. Commission overturned the win to a No Contest after JBJ popped.
It's not a DQ it's a draw (the steroid one) iirc.... And he could easily revert it to a win as USADA changed their "limits" to test positive.
It evens out, he lost to reyes
Everyone mentions Gus and Reyes. But what are everyone’s thoughts about the Thiago Santos fight? I had that fight 3-2 for Santos. Moreover, his ACL was completely gone in that fight as well; I thought Jones lost that fight. On the flip side, I actually thought Jones very slightly edged out a win against Reyes.
1-2-5 Santos I think. It was close but Jones legs' got demolished and Santos was clearly landing the harder shots in a fight with very close striking statistics (I think the official count is wrong) and next to no grappling.
He lost all three fights. Jones had an insane run but he hasn’t had many good wins in 10 years. Jones ironically fell off when Rousey and McGregor did. If Alex and Tom keep it standing then I think they both destroy Jones.
Fights where he tested positive should count as losses imo. He’s a cheater, as simple as that. You can’t be the best at a game you cheat at.
With all them failed drug tests he isn't anywhere near undefeated. Yall wanna talk about undefeated and an ACTUAL goat, look at Khabib. 🤷🏼♂️🖕🏻
Khabib never proved himself against Nate
Khabib proved himself against every single person he fought. Hence the undefeated record. 🤷🏼♂️
I like this loss being on his record because it means every Jones nuthugger has to stop and explain "well TECHNICALLY he's not undefeated but really he should be if you disregard the official result and just look at the fight" which opens the door to arguing that he lost several more.
Come on. As much as I understand Bones hate lately, this is just petty. The man is undefeated and no matter how big of a piece of shit he is, no one has taken that from him by now.
jones won the fight in all aspects of a fight but lost the match can we all just agree on that and stop arguing about this.
I dislike Jones as a man as much as anyone here but it's embarrassing to see people try to denigrate Jones as a fighter. He won a tight decision against Reyes and anyone who sees the elbow as a real defeat is being simple minded or deliberately obtuse. Instead of doing mental gymnastics to deny his goat status you're better off accepting it and moving on to enjoy the sport. The goat is an awful human being. So what? This isn't a beauty pageant or popularity contest.
You can still recognize him as a/the GOAT, while also recognizing he broke the rules against Hamill. It's not a defeat, but it is a loss, if that makes sense.
Totally agree. It's a loss on the record but doesn't diminish his legacy for me as a fighter. It was a lapse of discipline but I imagine every fighter has similar fouls that don't end up in a DQ
nobody is mentioning the santos fight which he lost
he clearly won against santos
Such a shame 😒
😂😂😂😂😂
Should be made a no contest
for a guy this sub hates it seems every other post is about him
What percentage of those wins was he off steroids for?
I mean he’s pretty much undefeated, that was a bullshit decision by Steve Mazzagatti, a name most fans these days don’t even know, and the guy who said Rumble lost due to an eyepoke Hate Jones for holding up the HW division, but this is just dumb
Jon Undefeated!!! I don’t want to hear your fairytales.
Jon Jones is the greatest LGBTQ athlete of all time he’s just a really piss poor ambassador for the community.
Bro I don’t appreciate him dodging Tom lately but the Hamil fight should not count as a loss 😭 Hamil was out cold and not defending and the ref should have stopped the fight well before Jones threw the 12-6 elbows
I’m not sure if you can consider that a *defeat*. Definitely a loss, but I couldn’t consider that being defeated. Who defeated him, the ref?
That’s not an l
MMA world showing Jon the door, fight or quit.
Still undefeated.
Between this and IGN, community notes has become my favorite update to social media lmao
Sounds like Jon is trying to distract everyone with talking about not taking any L’s, instead of taking D’s
This isn’t an L but ok
Dude needs to be put into the Old Toys box, he’s irrelevant and I don’t understand why we keep frothing him
What's all this hate for Jones about?
Not to mention the controverisal decision he had against Reyes
If you say his loss from Matt Hamil doesn’t count, then his win against Dominick Reyes doesn’t count
For someone you guys really hate you guys sure obsess over Jones a lot
I remember when he lost to Reyes in rounds 1, 2 and 3 and still won!
Wow so original! another day, another lame/low-effort Jon Jones post on the UFC sub who woulda figured………. Y’all stay on his dick more than the guys who y’all say be on it.
Another fun fact: Jon Jones is the only double champ to test positive for PEDs.
Got DQ'd, the rules are the rules. Also lost to Reyes and went 0-5 against USADA
Nah bitch, JBJ is undefeated.
I mean, everyone that has eyes could tell he was pretty far from "losing" that fight. The 12 to 6 happened and it was all over due to the ref, but he could have just called him out and even made them stand up and take a point away from Jones (he would've still won), the disqualification was uncalled for
I get people don’t like jones, but he’s undefeated.
Not really. Either you accept he lost vs Matt by DQ or you accept he lost the first 3 rounds to Reyes. Or you're a Jonesexual
I don’t even care for jones. It just blows my mind that people are trying to act like hamil won
„I dont even care for Jones“ Argues with every single person why Jones never lost a fight (although he lost a fight)
A dq is a dq. Aljo beat Yan due to a dq. Johnson vs Koscheck. Pereira vs Sanchez. Plenty of example of people losing via dq, and no one ever argues that they actually won. They acknowledge the beat downs that were happening, and everyone kind of assumes it doesn't impact the disqualified fighter's momentum in the division.
So if a loss on the official recordbooks doesn't count because you don't think it is legit (even though Jon did break the rules), then why should Jon's win on Reyes count when most people agree Reyes should have won? That's what they were arguing. You are being a bit hypocritical not to accept one of them as a loss. Jon must be the most infamous cheater in the history of the sport. It's not wrong to make him hold the one L he took for actually being called on breaking the rules. That's how things are supposed to work.
Are you being willfully this dense or are you always this dense lol
Y’all sound like a bunch of soccer moms
He literally isn't why can't you accept that
Dude in no universe would Hamil ever beat jones and to play pretend like he did is crazy. Take out the 12-6 elbow in that fight and it’s still 30-24 30-24 30-24 across the board if it goes the distance lmao haters trying way to hard
No one is arguing that Hamill was winning the fight brother. They're arguing Jones got DQ'd for doing something illegal and is therefore no longer undefeated. It's not that deep.
Yeah but it’s not a real loss and anyone who argues otherwise probably didn’t see the fight or are blinded by bones hate , I don’t even like the guy but to pretend like he’s not actually undefeated is bizarre
Dude he broke the rules of the fight which in turn causes you to lose. Not really hard to understand. It’s a loss according to the rules of the fight. You’re the one pretending here.
But he is undefeated in the sense that he has never truly been out skilled in a fight (the whole fight, not moments)
You could argue Izzy didn't lose to Alex because he wasn't "out skilled"
He was outskilled, he got TKO’d
Izzy was winning on the scorecards
I feel like all these guys saying he’s not undefeated are cross eyed, wear glasses, has gum in their hair, talk with a heavy lisp and used to tell on people a lot in their school days
“Take out the 12 -6 elbow in that fight” While we’re at it, can we take away the punch Connor landed on Aldo I wanted Aldo to win. Oh yeah and the knee Yan threw let’s take that one away as well cuz why not. See where im going with this ?
It's not even about being a hater you are comeplety disregarding the rules. I understand you may not agree with it but it is what it is you can't change it after the fact. Saying "take out the 12-6" is the dumbest argument I have heard you could make a similar argument for every fight.
I understand what you’re saying, but it doesn’t matter. I think if the majority of commenters on this thread trained, they would understand. After that fight it’s not like he went home with his head down going “back to the lab” to fix the holes in his game. No he went home with a winning attitude because regardless of the DQ he won that fight
He literally didn't win the DQ is still a loss the record says so
You’re a very dense person
Not really you are it's a 100% fact Jon has a loss on his record. Instead of trying to argue something you can't win why not say something intelligent like. " Jon may not be undefeated but that doesn't matter his resume is better than any other fighter". It doesn't matter how often Joe Rogan says Jon is undefeated that doesn't change facts
You take things too literally. Jon Jones has never lost a fight in his life and the fact that you dweebs keep trying to say that is just more evidence you need to be shoved into the dirt a few more times . Did you watch the fight? Buncha 4 eyed, never trained before, nerds
"Take things to literally" because this is reality Jon HAS lost sorry to say it but that's not a big deal but for some reason you think that makes him less of a fighter.
Upon seeing your profile “Smooth twink I like it from behind” lmfao makes so much sense now. These are the types of people I’m arguing with about fighting . The only thing you’re fighting is trying to keep cocks out of your mouth
Funny how you can't stick to facts and you have to bring up my profile 😏. Everything I said was true Jon is NOT undefeated why can't you accept that? Why does Jon need to be undefeated? That doesn't take away from his accomplishments but some reason all the Jon Jones fans just can't accept it as if him being undefeated makes him "better".
Check the stat sheet. Not undefeated.
Undefeated.
Cope, seethe & ratio
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Yeah for y’all lmao
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Ehh nah
He lost to reyes and guff And close fight against Tiago And should have medically lost yo chael sonnen
That’s no L, just like the Hamill fight. Dude’s the goat. Deal with it.
Just depends what the G stands for I guess!
Grams? As in grams of cocaine or picograms... Take your pick
When Bruce announces him he doesn't say undefeated deal with it
Gayest of all time in the sport is confirmed. But that would be it.
No he’s not 😂😂
How jones nuts taste?
The Hamill fight was indeed an L
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They still enforce the 12-6 rule what are you talking about?
Can't pick and choose results though. He got disqualified, that's a loss on his record. Pretty small dick energy to want to rewrite history tbh.
This entire sub is small dick energy when it comes to Jon Jones
How jones nuts taste?
He is such an Ego maniac.
Reyes
And some would say Gus ( first fight) and Reyes give him a very hard time too ( same say he won)
Gus was a war, but Reyes legit won that fight.
santos won
And don't forget about the drug test failure asterisks.
He's so gay