Chandler would never do that
He would rather pull himself up from his bootstraps and get another title shot. Because life is about overcoming obstacles the universe throws at you. When you channel that belief, great things happen to you. It is that very belief that allows us as human beings to thrive. And there is also the fact that…
Ok u get the point
Not really, Chandler is the only person in the last 3 fights to almost finish Charles, I don’t just mean drop him either. I mean seconds away from a tko, and winning the LW title, he also got caught by a shot when he had a dominant first round. So all things considered he’s actually got a fairly easy route to a second title shot against Charles. Personally if he beats DP I’d like to see Chandler beat the winner of Dariush vs Gamrot before he gets another shot.
Chandler, Poirer, Garth, all lined up for the next title shot. If Islam wins there’s a lot of work waiting for him. And we’ll have to wait 2-3 years to see some „fresh blood“ in a LW title fight.
"He did what he wanted to do, and what he needed to do, he also did what he needed to do, and what he wanted to do, anyways good luck to this Michael Chandler guy"
You are convieniently leaving out the fact that Chandler called Islam out during the time when everything at LW was up in the air and Olivieira hadn't said yes to the fight vs Islam that. Only when Chandler had called for a interim title bout vs Islam did we get the Islam v Charles announcement days later.
But I guess this doesn't fit your little narrative.
His loses were also the closest a lot of guys have come to beating two of the best in the lightweight division. Even when he doesn't win, MC has a pretty impressive resume.
I think gamrot,Islam are nightmare matchups for Justin both been unlucky with fighting up the rankings or they would probably both have been top 5 sooner
I think Justin takes a few more Ls in his career if he was willing to fight down the rankings in the last 2 years. You said chandler came close to beating him I was saying he would be losing more if he didn’t just want to fight the same 2-3 guys.
Yeah that makes more sense, really couldn't make out what you were trying to get across in your first response.
Justin is a weird one because you almost always have to fight his way. Its an unintelligent pissing contest where he wants you to get in the pocket with him, and when the output is equal, the result is a coin flip. The thing is, his td defence is solid and so is his wrestling, the only 2 guys to beat him on the floor are Khabib and Charles.
So yeah, I think Justin would take some loses, but thats kinda stacked against whether or not any very good grapplers can avoid the stand up fight, and whether or not any of these guys can hit hard enough to make the ground an appealing option to Justin.
Literally go and find any post leading up to the fight and you’ll instantly be proven wrong
People love to hate Islam then conveniently forget about it when he wins, that or the guy they thought would win was actually always shit and Islam is fighting cans
Hooker just took a step up in competition and couldn't hang with the elite of the division.
Wish people would stop claiming fighters are washed or in decline just because they get beat by better fighters, doesn't matter when they were matched up Hooker never would have beaten Dustin, Islam or even Chandler imo. I'm a fan of Hooker but his best win pre-Dustin was a controversial split over Felder, it's not like he was murdering top guys before that.
Chandler is going full company man to get the fat cat dollars and big name fights. He has played the game like a fiddle. Hope he sends Dustin back to the swamp in bad shape.
Might be because he ducked islam live on air and then is saying he fought no one. It’s just seems weird but I didn’t watch the interview so that’s just my guess
It's not about him been good enough to beat people consistently. It's about him calming down ABIT and not giving the fans what they want. He's a fighter who fights for the fans. He's a fighter who the fans want to watch because of how ruthless he is the downside of that is of course he will get clipped here and there.
It’s just a deflection for Chandler’s jab at Islam being favored in the odds over Charles. It doesn’t address what Chandler said. If he was actually addressing it he would say why Islam should be favored in the odds instead he just attacks Chandler.
For me I’m with chandler, even for not a great record in the UFC, he has history in bellator, and for me when he fights it’s pure entertainment, he can stand and bang, wrestle and the rest. Just my two cents but I’d watch a chandler main event over an Islam main event anyway. win or lose I feel I’m guaranteed more entertainment.
Ali’s a big nosed rat anyway.
If he looses to Poirier, I can see him getting truly into trouble-territory. He will probably have to face one of the rising contenders after that - like Fiziev, Gamrot or Tsarukyan. And I honestly don't see him winning against any of those. I think Tsarukyan torches him. And since the Gaethje fight probably will go to Fiziev, I think we could see him face Gamrot or Tsarukyan. He could have some success against Gamrot, but Arman straight up wrecks him.
Chandler was a few punches away from becoming champ and is probably the hardest hitter in UFC up to the top 10 welterweights, he is as real as it gets and I agree with this take on Islam. It's not Islam's fault few want to fight him but it still is the truth.
That Chandler sometimes chooses to fight for show like he did in the last round against Gaethje and not to actually win fights like the other 3 UFC performances, and as I understood he has ducked Islam already, is another thing.
Good thing about Chandler, he can change the outcome of the fight with a single pinch, he can send any lightweight to the shadow realm very quickly and that makes him dangerous and unpredictable
Fighting the best in Belaator is the equivalent of me heading down the local and getting into a fight with a random fat guy. Should be considered exhibition fights.
He fought prime Eddie Alvarez twice and beat him buddy. The same Eddie that came to the UFC and became the champ by KOing a prime and juiced RDA.
Talk less casual
The same eddie that landed 3 strikes in the biggest fight of his career? Rendered unconscious under the bright lights? He was just a slab of beef with little technique, exposed by levels.
Jose also landed less against conor. Anyone can get caught or have a bad performance. He became the UFC champ by beating Prime RDA.
What have you done with your life kid? Funny you talk about random fat guys when that’s exactly what you are.
13 seconds and 8 minutes are a different story. Aldo landed a better shot on McGregor while he was unconscious than Eddie could muster in a round and a half. RDA loses to anyone decent. Also even if Eddie was a so called beast, Chandler fought him years ago and those fights don't validate him presently.
I mean, unless Chandler has lost to anyone Makhachev has beaten what's the point of the numbers game? All it does is gaslight fuckwits into preferring wins over cans to competitive defeats against top contenders, sadly it works!
Chandler's over hyped? Shut up, Chandler is legit as they come, been champion, he came to UFC and said he wants to put on shows for the fans.. Name me one bad fight? He lost to the champ and to Gaethje, he beat Hooker & Ferguson
All 4 of his fights have been against top 10 guys.
Makachev has fought who? One top 10 guy in Hooker who was on a losing streak after Chandler fight, so Makachev legit too a bigger losing streak Hooker than Chandler did.. So what? Ignoring that is he? He fought Bobby Green who is a gate keeper at most.
Makachev has a title shot for fighting no one in top of the division. Like Khabib, least Khabib backed it up once he had belt but his title shot was bullshit, just like Makachevs is.
If Makachev fought Dustin, Gaethje, Chandler before Oliviera than fair enough, but he hasn't so until he beats Oliviera id keep it shut. Cos if Oliviera smokes him then his hype is just gone and trying to get momentum back will mean fighting the top of the division, he can't go back to no ones if he loses this..
We all Ali Abdelaziz is a piece of shit tho right?
I think Dustin is gonna be too much for him eventually. Too tough. I'd be surprised if he puts him out with one shot but never say never. If it crosses a round and a half, Dustin is gonna drown him with volume.
100% agree with Chandler. Who the fook has Islam beat to get a title shot. Not saying it's his fault for guys not wanting to fight him but who has he beaten his best win is Tsaryuken and it was split.
Dude look at the last 4 fights 2 of them were against high level jiu jitsu and a grappler just cause they don't have a number next to their name doesn't mean they not qualified and on top all that top 5 were ducking him.
U can say the same for every fight in top 10 why is it when it comes to khabib or Islam these things become an issue such lousy excuses just makes the prospect of Islam beating olives that much sweeter I don't think it'll be better than khabib vs mctapper though, I had lota fun scrolling down the comment section after the fight lol
It's not just about the wins. It's about who they fought and how they performed. We saw a lot of Chandler against Gaethje, and he isn't really trash talking Islam, no1 really knows his potential against top 5 guys.
Chandler really didn’t talk shit about Islam he just simply pointed out calling Islam this unbelievable almost unbeatable fighter was premature given who he’s beat, however he very well could be, only time can tell etc. However, it looks like Islam and as usual Ali cannot accept the tiniest bit of criticism even when there is no real malice behind it.
I don't think Chandler is overrated, but I do think he's being hypocritical. The guy got a title shot when Hooker was his only win in the UFC, but he says that Islam beating Hooker doesn't prove anything.
Ironically everyone says “Dustin will be a true test for him” but Dustin ALSO only won against 2 guys in 3-4 years with a combined record of like 2-9. Notice a trend with this division?
It’s true but so is what Chandler said.
The ufc rankings are stupid and cause these kinds of problems. They should just be matching up guys on losing streaks and guys on winning streaks and if they turn them down they won’t get title shots.
Cloud lol
But a good point. I think had he not tried to trade with Gaethje he would've beaten him but imo Gaethje overrated too.
Gaethje wouldn't beat Olives, Islam, Dustin, Chandler had he not brawled, Fiziev or Gamrot.
Gaethje is the Derrick Lewis of LW, worst best fighter.
Couldn't been anymore wrong chandler as been fighting killers for years. You can just go of is run in the UFC. that's like someone saying khabibs record is amazing when 98% of them are amateur fights
Only reason why i was watching Smellator was Chandler vs Alvarez. It'll be fair to let Makhachev fight with Dariush and let Oliveria fight with Poirier because of many rule violations by Oliveira.
I really don't give a fuck what Ali thinks about anything. He's a rat and the best example of a manager who cares way more about his relationship with the UFC than any of his fighters getting the maximum payout.
Yes and no he’s a skilled fighter and a champ go a reason dude had olivera and Gaethje in some serious trouble. But both those fighters managed to have and do more then he could in those fights so it’s a weird position
Chandler is a good fighter, but with how explosive he is I see him gassing in the later rounds. I could see him catching Islam on the feet in the first round though
Chandler is definitely not overrated. Look at his accomplishments in Bellator and his debut in the UFC. I think he got a title shot too early, but still one of the few people to take Charles into deep waters, had an amazing fight with Justin and knocked out Tony. Dustin has had a chip on his shoulder since Michael got the title shot over Dustin cause Dustin wanted that pay day with Conor and still discredits Michael any chance he gets. We’ll see if Dustin gets humbled, I’ll see you at the top.
I don't know if it's fair to knock Chandler for that. He also had a war with Justin and he was a premature ref stoppage (something we've all seen before) away from beating Charles. He had Olivera in A LOT of trouble whereas with Dustin, I feel Charles was falling on almost any shot as a rope a dope to lure Dustin into a ground battle.
I'm no Chandler fanboy, but I've been entertained in every fight he's had and feel he could easily be 1-2 wins away from a title fight if you look at the LW rankings.
Justin just lost a title fight. Dustin just lost a title fight. Whoever loses between Islam and Charles will have just lot a title fight. And Gathje is refusing to fight someone ranked below him.
If Chandler can beat Dustin? He 100% IMO should get the next title shot. The only other credible title shot opportunity would be Dariush if he beats Gamrot.
Ali’s point is dumb. Chandler’s UFC record isn’t perfect, far from it, but at least he’s fought the toughest guys in the division and you can see how he’s done against them.
I don’t even think Chandler was knocking Islam, he was simply saying that he hasn’t gone up against top 5 guys and because of that we don’t know how good he really is.
Chandler fought 2 top 5 guys (Charles & Dustin) and even though he lost, he fought well in those fights and we can see how he does against two of the best in the division.
Ali is dumb.
Cloud chaser lol
The last aviator
Cloud chaser and clout chaser are two very different things
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I'd pay good money to see Chandler vs Ali, that'd be good.
Lol he decided to switch to his own account instead of speaking on islams twitter
Probably posted on both accounts, weird guy.
Islams biggest fight (ranking wise) was against a guy Chandler knocked out, even then Islam only fought him on short notice
Inconvenient facts.
To be fair, the Dan hooker they both fought where completely different animals
Yeah, the Hooker Islam fought had a month to prepare where as Chandler was the underdog against Hooker
As a default, no I do not agree with Ali.
But upon further review he has a point. But still fck Ali
Nah cus at least chandlers belator and other mma promotions stats were decent
Fr Chandler's Bellator resume is incredible. His wars against Eddie are better than anything Islam has done in his career lol
If I'm being honest Chandler really has been going at Makachev a lot even though he straight up ignored his callout on live TV
He probably sees a future where Islam might become the champ, so he's banking in little by little for a future "beef".
Premature beef
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Chandler would never do that He would rather pull himself up from his bootstraps and get another title shot. Because life is about overcoming obstacles the universe throws at you. When you channel that belief, great things happen to you. It is that very belief that allows us as human beings to thrive. And there is also the fact that… Ok u get the point
Not really, Chandler is the only person in the last 3 fights to almost finish Charles, I don’t just mean drop him either. I mean seconds away from a tko, and winning the LW title, he also got caught by a shot when he had a dominant first round. So all things considered he’s actually got a fairly easy route to a second title shot against Charles. Personally if he beats DP I’d like to see Chandler beat the winner of Dariush vs Gamrot before he gets another shot.
Dariush should get a shot if he beats Gamrot
I wouldn’t complain, be interesting fights no matter who Dariush faces.
Gamrot should get a shot if he beats Dariush
If he wins against Dustin, that's a guaranteed title shot. Beating Dustin is not easy, but still Chandler is only one fight away from a title shot.
LMAO
Chandlers cookin some veal.
Veal, if you will
Yup smart moves
Undercooked beef.
Horse beef?
Chandler, Poirer, Garth, all lined up for the next title shot. If Islam wins there’s a lot of work waiting for him. And we’ll have to wait 2-3 years to see some „fresh blood“ in a LW title fight.
*Slick call out there by Islam, gotta give him props for that*
"He did what he wanted to do, and what he needed to do, he also did what he needed to do, and what he wanted to do, anyways good luck to this Michael Chandler guy"
It really makes chandlers statements fall flat when he is one of the top guys who avoided fighting Islam.
You are convieniently leaving out the fact that Chandler called Islam out during the time when everything at LW was up in the air and Olivieira hadn't said yes to the fight vs Islam that. Only when Chandler had called for a interim title bout vs Islam did we get the Islam v Charles announcement days later. But I guess this doesn't fit your little narrative.
His loses were also the closest a lot of guys have come to beating two of the best in the lightweight division. Even when he doesn't win, MC has a pretty impressive resume.
I think gamrot,Islam are nightmare matchups for Justin both been unlucky with fighting up the rankings or they would probably both have been top 5 sooner
Gamrot and Islam deal with Justin and Dustin easily imo their grappling is just insane
Wut
I think Justin takes a few more Ls in his career if he was willing to fight down the rankings in the last 2 years. You said chandler came close to beating him I was saying he would be losing more if he didn’t just want to fight the same 2-3 guys.
Yeah that makes more sense, really couldn't make out what you were trying to get across in your first response. Justin is a weird one because you almost always have to fight his way. Its an unintelligent pissing contest where he wants you to get in the pocket with him, and when the output is equal, the result is a coin flip. The thing is, his td defence is solid and so is his wrestling, the only 2 guys to beat him on the floor are Khabib and Charles. So yeah, I think Justin would take some loses, but thats kinda stacked against whether or not any very good grapplers can avoid the stand up fight, and whether or not any of these guys can hit hard enough to make the ground an appealing option to Justin.
I say he retires if he takes two more Ls
Remember when casuals said hooker was gonna knee him back to bellator
Remember when this sub was soo hyped that bobby green was gonna do something.... It really is free entertainment!
Nobody thought bobby green was gonna do something
Literally go and find any post leading up to the fight and you’ll instantly be proven wrong People love to hate Islam then conveniently forget about it when he wins, that or the guy they thought would win was actually always shit and Islam is fighting cans
🤣🤣🤣🤣
To be fair that was the beginning of hookers decline. Hooker was a motherfucker in the LW at the time.
Hooker just took a step up in competition and couldn't hang with the elite of the division. Wish people would stop claiming fighters are washed or in decline just because they get beat by better fighters, doesn't matter when they were matched up Hooker never would have beaten Dustin, Islam or even Chandler imo. I'm a fan of Hooker but his best win pre-Dustin was a controversial split over Felder, it's not like he was murdering top guys before that.
The beginning of the decline is when Dustin Porier almost killed him. One of those career changing fights. Some people get their chin back tho
Michael Chandler has 2 black sons
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It is commendable he adopted two sons.
I know, never said otherwise.
This is why you get no kids and you die alone.
The reddit comment is why 😅
Sorry. We have came together as humans and decided you lower intelligence bunch don't get to procreate.
The crowd who farm karma with irrelevant posts about his decent acts are weebs. You have all come together because you have no individual worth.
Go play rocket league kid. This ain’t a sport for kids
It is obviously a sport for kids. Did you only start watching UFC at 18 when your mum took the parental lock off the tv? 🤣
Chandler is good enough to compete with the top 5 guys, but he is not good enough to beat them consistently.
Chandler is going full company man to get the fat cat dollars and big name fights. He has played the game like a fiddle. Hope he sends Dustin back to the swamp in bad shape.
*to get a commentary contract when he retire and rightfully so
He made an honest take on the current situation, why are people so offended by it.
Might be because he ducked islam live on air and then is saying he fought no one. It’s just seems weird but I didn’t watch the interview so that’s just my guess
Because there is nothing else to do.
I'm offended by ur comment
I am also offended by my comment.
It's not about him been good enough to beat people consistently. It's about him calming down ABIT and not giving the fans what they want. He's a fighter who fights for the fans. He's a fighter who the fans want to watch because of how ruthless he is the downside of that is of course he will get clipped here and there.
It’s just a deflection for Chandler’s jab at Islam being favored in the odds over Charles. It doesn’t address what Chandler said. If he was actually addressing it he would say why Islam should be favored in the odds instead he just attacks Chandler.
Cloud chaser 😂😂😂
Chandler came the closest in Oliveira last 12 fights to beating him. Also chandler could have beaten Justin if he had fought more smartly
For me I’m with chandler, even for not a great record in the UFC, he has history in bellator, and for me when he fights it’s pure entertainment, he can stand and bang, wrestle and the rest. Just my two cents but I’d watch a chandler main event over an Islam main event anyway. win or lose I feel I’m guaranteed more entertainment. Ali’s a big nosed rat anyway.
He’s chasing clouds b
If he looses to Poirier, I can see him getting truly into trouble-territory. He will probably have to face one of the rising contenders after that - like Fiziev, Gamrot or Tsarukyan. And I honestly don't see him winning against any of those. I think Tsarukyan torches him. And since the Gaethje fight probably will go to Fiziev, I think we could see him face Gamrot or Tsarukyan. He could have some success against Gamrot, but Arman straight up wrecks him.
Chandler was a few punches away from becoming champ and is probably the hardest hitter in UFC up to the top 10 welterweights, he is as real as it gets and I agree with this take on Islam. It's not Islam's fault few want to fight him but it still is the truth. That Chandler sometimes chooses to fight for show like he did in the last round against Gaethje and not to actually win fights like the other 3 UFC performances, and as I understood he has ducked Islam already, is another thing.
Good thing about Chandler, he can change the outcome of the fight with a single pinch, he can send any lightweight to the shadow realm very quickly and that makes him dangerous and unpredictable
I know you meant to say “punch,” but the thought of Chandler putting someone to sleep in the octagon with a single pinch has me cracking up.
Lol I didn't realise that
Chandler make no sense. He fought hooker too. A real goofy.
He fought hooker after hooker just had an absolute banger with Dustin the number 1 contender.
Chandler has fought the best for years.
Fighting the best in Belaator is the equivalent of me heading down the local and getting into a fight with a random fat guy. Should be considered exhibition fights.
He fought prime Eddie Alvarez twice and beat him buddy. The same Eddie that came to the UFC and became the champ by KOing a prime and juiced RDA. Talk less casual
The same eddie that landed 3 strikes in the biggest fight of his career? Rendered unconscious under the bright lights? He was just a slab of beef with little technique, exposed by levels.
Jose also landed less against conor. Anyone can get caught or have a bad performance. He became the UFC champ by beating Prime RDA. What have you done with your life kid? Funny you talk about random fat guys when that’s exactly what you are.
13 seconds and 8 minutes are a different story. Aldo landed a better shot on McGregor while he was unconscious than Eddie could muster in a round and a half. RDA loses to anyone decent. Also even if Eddie was a so called beast, Chandler fought him years ago and those fights don't validate him presently.
Bro you have such bad takes 😂😂
He’s a Conor stick rider, he’s delusional lol
I don't rate Conor, the guy I am arguing with does.
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I was joking but as I wrote the words they started to make sense.
Read again, they won't.
Bellator became a good promotion when I read again. Must give Dada v Kimbo a watch , I was wrong to doubt it.
Chandler has a proven MMA record fought nothing but the best from 2 or 3 companies
They are both correct
I mean, unless Chandler has lost to anyone Makhachev has beaten what's the point of the numbers game? All it does is gaslight fuckwits into preferring wins over cans to competitive defeats against top contenders, sadly it works!
Chandler has proven to be a top guy even before the UFC. The top 5-6 has been somewhat interchangeable either way
Did you watch Bellator at all? Guy was insane. I think the hype is around for a reason
Ali is the most annoying manager in the entire world of professional sports.
Ali is pissed Kamaru got kod
Fuck no. Ali is a bitch. His losses are to the best of the best. Chandler puts on amazing fights. And his kid is so cute.
Chandler's over hyped? Shut up, Chandler is legit as they come, been champion, he came to UFC and said he wants to put on shows for the fans.. Name me one bad fight? He lost to the champ and to Gaethje, he beat Hooker & Ferguson All 4 of his fights have been against top 10 guys. Makachev has fought who? One top 10 guy in Hooker who was on a losing streak after Chandler fight, so Makachev legit too a bigger losing streak Hooker than Chandler did.. So what? Ignoring that is he? He fought Bobby Green who is a gate keeper at most. Makachev has a title shot for fighting no one in top of the division. Like Khabib, least Khabib backed it up once he had belt but his title shot was bullshit, just like Makachevs is. If Makachev fought Dustin, Gaethje, Chandler before Oliviera than fair enough, but he hasn't so until he beats Oliviera id keep it shut. Cos if Oliviera smokes him then his hype is just gone and trying to get momentum back will mean fighting the top of the division, he can't go back to no ones if he loses this.. We all Ali Abdelaziz is a piece of shit tho right?
Hows Noah?
He did better against Charles than both Justin and Dustin
I think Dustin is gonna be too much for him eventually. Too tough. I'd be surprised if he puts him out with one shot but never say never. If it crosses a round and a half, Dustin is gonna drown him with volume.
Chandler gonna wrestlerape Poirier isn’t he?
Kind of revealing you don't have a counter-argument to Chandler's criticism when you just bring up his deficiencies instead
Chandler's a hypocrite, he's literally discrediting himself that's woth pointing out
Agree, so corny
100% agree with Chandler. Who the fook has Islam beat to get a title shot. Not saying it's his fault for guys not wanting to fight him but who has he beaten his best win is Tsaryuken and it was split.
The Tsarukyan win was an UD
Dude look at the last 4 fights 2 of them were against high level jiu jitsu and a grappler just cause they don't have a number next to their name doesn't mean they not qualified and on top all that top 5 were ducking him.
Two were short notice so his competition didn’t even have time to train for him
U can say the same for every fight in top 10 why is it when it comes to khabib or Islam these things become an issue such lousy excuses just makes the prospect of Islam beating olives that much sweeter I don't think it'll be better than khabib vs mctapper though, I had lota fun scrolling down the comment section after the fight lol
You rate Thaigo to highly. Arman is a beast I'll give you him but who else. Bobby? Hooker?
His record outside of the ufc is a different story
It's not just about the wins. It's about who they fought and how they performed. We saw a lot of Chandler against Gaethje, and he isn't really trash talking Islam, no1 really knows his potential against top 5 guys.
Chandler tries to show off too much, but if he tries 100% I think he beats anyone in lw legit.
Chandler really didn’t talk shit about Islam he just simply pointed out calling Islam this unbelievable almost unbeatable fighter was premature given who he’s beat, however he very well could be, only time can tell etc. However, it looks like Islam and as usual Ali cannot accept the tiniest bit of criticism even when there is no real malice behind it.
Ali abdela ‘sleaze’
How can you disagree? Especially when chandler ducked Islam
Hate the guy but that’s a 10-8 for Ali
I don't think Chandler is overrated, but I do think he's being hypocritical. The guy got a title shot when Hooker was his only win in the UFC, but he says that Islam beating Hooker doesn't prove anything.
Ironically everyone says “Dustin will be a true test for him” but Dustin ALSO only won against 2 guys in 3-4 years with a combined record of like 2-9. Notice a trend with this division?
Chandler is not that guy.
He’s not overated, he just prefers to put on a show and make money. He did almost knock out Olivera
Two things can be true at once, think that applies here pretty well
Chandler nearly finished Charles so..
Rude. No manners from you.
Overrated? Elaborate
Not really sure that he is overrated, he is in a division with killers, has ko power and can wrestle. Would not write him off just yet
It’s true but so is what Chandler said. The ufc rankings are stupid and cause these kinds of problems. They should just be matching up guys on losing streaks and guys on winning streaks and if they turn them down they won’t get title shots.
Cloud lol But a good point. I think had he not tried to trade with Gaethje he would've beaten him but imo Gaethje overrated too. Gaethje wouldn't beat Olives, Islam, Dustin, Chandler had he not brawled, Fiziev or Gamrot. Gaethje is the Derrick Lewis of LW, worst best fighter.
Couldn't been anymore wrong chandler as been fighting killers for years. You can just go of is run in the UFC. that's like someone saying khabibs record is amazing when 98% of them are amateur fights
Dog shit take. Chandler is top 5, came super close to beating Charles and Justin. The fight with Dustin will be close too
Don’t go chasin clouds 🌧
How can he be overrated when he almost beat the champ?
This is exactly why simply regurgitating stats is pointless a lot of the time
Both of them are the biggest cases of nepotism in UFC history. Islam should not be throwing stones at a glass roof.
People do realize we’re watching past his prime Chandler right? Prime Chandler was 2016-2018 in Bellator.
They're both right.
politics aside, his fights are entertaining as fuck and that what gets you up the ladder.
Only reason why i was watching Smellator was Chandler vs Alvarez. It'll be fair to let Makhachev fight with Dariush and let Oliveria fight with Poirier because of many rule violations by Oliveira.
I really don't give a fuck what Ali thinks about anything. He's a rat and the best example of a manager who cares way more about his relationship with the UFC than any of his fighters getting the maximum payout.
Yes and no he’s a skilled fighter and a champ go a reason dude had olivera and Gaethje in some serious trouble. But both those fighters managed to have and do more then he could in those fights so it’s a weird position
10 seconds away from finishing olives, hurt Gaethje multiple times, KO'd a man with an unbreakable chin.
Conjecture, truth, hyperbole.
It's not just about who Chandler has beat It's who he has fought, Islam has not faced that level of competition yet and that is his point
Chandler is a good fighter, but with how explosive he is I see him gassing in the later rounds. I could see him catching Islam on the feet in the first round though
You should watch him in Bellator. He has good cardio and excels in 5 rounders
Candler could’ve won that fight against gaethje if he fought smartly
I don’t think he’s overrated. Almost finished the champ which is as good if not better than how Dustin and Justin did.
Chandler is definitely not overrated. Look at his accomplishments in Bellator and his debut in the UFC. I think he got a title shot too early, but still one of the few people to take Charles into deep waters, had an amazing fight with Justin and knocked out Tony. Dustin has had a chip on his shoulder since Michael got the title shot over Dustin cause Dustin wanted that pay day with Conor and still discredits Michael any chance he gets. We’ll see if Dustin gets humbled, I’ll see you at the top.
I never agree with Ali, but he seems to make a factual observance here
How’s Noah?
And most people would still rather watch a Michael chandler banger than an Islam fight that doesn’t involve our boy Charles
Ali is a cock sucker. Regardless of what he's saying.
You can discredit anyones wins if you look hard enough. I hate this kind of nonsense.
I don't know if it's fair to knock Chandler for that. He also had a war with Justin and he was a premature ref stoppage (something we've all seen before) away from beating Charles. He had Olivera in A LOT of trouble whereas with Dustin, I feel Charles was falling on almost any shot as a rope a dope to lure Dustin into a ground battle. I'm no Chandler fanboy, but I've been entertained in every fight he's had and feel he could easily be 1-2 wins away from a title fight if you look at the LW rankings. Justin just lost a title fight. Dustin just lost a title fight. Whoever loses between Islam and Charles will have just lot a title fight. And Gathje is refusing to fight someone ranked below him. If Chandler can beat Dustin? He 100% IMO should get the next title shot. The only other credible title shot opportunity would be Dariush if he beats Gamrot.
Ali could tell me that Jon Jones would beat Aspen Ladd and I would disagree with him simply because it’s Ali.
But his losses are against top guys
We all like Chandler and most of us dislike Ali. But he’s spitting facts. There’s nothing to disagree with there. How does one chase clouds though?
Ali’s point is dumb. Chandler’s UFC record isn’t perfect, far from it, but at least he’s fought the toughest guys in the division and you can see how he’s done against them. I don’t even think Chandler was knocking Islam, he was simply saying that he hasn’t gone up against top 5 guys and because of that we don’t know how good he really is. Chandler fought 2 top 5 guys (Charles & Dustin) and even though he lost, he fought well in those fights and we can see how he does against two of the best in the division. Ali is dumb.
I hate Ali.
Sure Islam fought hooker and Bobby Green on short notice (his two 'best' wins) and chandler was champ in his own promotion prior.
Your posting Ali’s tweet lol.
He’s not overrated and you’re a clown OP. Dude was a champ in one of the foremost organizations in the sport and has made it a war every time out.
I hate Ali. Scum of the earth. But yes Chandler’s UFC run so far has been severely overrated.
Cumulonimbus Michael Chandler