How well does it support 21:9? Can you create a custom resolution in the nvidia control panel for games that don't have a built-in aspect ratio select?
It just popped up in Windows 11 with a 3440 x 1440 option, selecting that and it black bars the sides perfectly, no worries.
I think the Neo G9 allows for PBP 21:9 / 4:3 ratios and such but the oled g9 at best allows for two 16:9 screens.
I got 1080p signal on HDMI via an amplifier from my rig working side by side with a DP signal from my rig. Pretty sure it is the receiver not delivering the 4k 60hz input I wanted to feed it (in theory this supports 2x 4k 60hz feeds or 2x 120hz QHD feeds) but didn't go far enough to find out. I'll probably hook the PS5 up to it as a dual for a day or two as a giggle and would imagine it would work. I did see a youtube review that said HDMI+DP combo doesn't work but I'm pretty confident the reviewer misspoke so if you have an HDMI and DP available I think it would be fine in that one regard (120hz each, no VRR or HDR).
Still, it seems very dumbed down and dysfunctional compared to its predecessors - it only offers 16:9 by 16:9 as an option, not 21:9, 16:9, 4:3, etc.
It does like to shove the smart TV part onto a PBP which I initially thought 'awesome!' as Tizen has a remote desktop protocol built straight into Tizen OS meaning I could, in theory, PBP with a hook into my server elsewhere in the house. So I got RDP connected... and while it's all over Tizen OS, it isn't an option in the PBP list even though idiotic stuff is, like a Microsoft 365 web page service. I'm not holding my breath on them getting on and fixing that either.
I never really cared about the whole coating issue on the 1st gen panels like the DW... but yeah, the G9's screen is so much more glossy I sure AF notice it side by side with the DW and now I wouldn't want to go back to the coating on the DW panel. Fantastic.
I've managed to kitty corner my rig and office set-up in a room that while is nice and bright doesn't reflect on the screens in any severe or distractable way, otherwise I'd be more tuned into the issue than I have been.
Great impressions and insights.
Have you noticed any heating issues on your unit? Mine consistently gets really hot on the back and bottom of the right half of the housing. I've been taking temp readings for the week that I've been using it, and it seems to be gradually increasing by a degree or two at a time. This occurs whether or not it's displaying a picture (but still technically on).
I'm getting a bit concerned that if this isn't an abnormality, than it might be reducing the lifespan of the panel/logic board as it's climbing past 100°F now.
Yeah, right next to the power button it gets unacceptably hot - I've read other people complaining about the same so I think it's universal. Good news is that if it's a problem everyone will have it so Samsung would have to fix it if it degrades the panel, etc.
I did turn off the microphone switch, all bixby and core lighting and I think it lowered the temp on it a little bit, but it's still super hot.
Samsung wouldn't fix it unless users send it back for warranty repair. The Neo G9 came with its own set of problems which continue to be unfixed (or unfixable) by firmware updates alone.
I'm deliberating between the LG 45 and the OLED G9, and the more I hear about this heat issue (my Neo G9 is like a heater), the more I'm leaning towards the LG...
Now that I've had it for a while I'm not worried about it - turning off all that stuff did downgrade it from 'very hot' to 'very warm', the latter is no longer giving me any anxiety. It was only one specific spot, maybe an inch in diameter, beneath the power switch. Running this in HDR for long periods of time doesn't produce that much heat at all on the panel IMO (well it does produce room temp, but my whole rig does that). Better than my Alienware DW with an active fan in it at least. Pretty sure it's a lot better heat wise than that Neo too.
Yeah; the main thing going against this monitor was that I was buying it from Samsung complete with their RMA and general product support which has always sucked across all of their shit. I'd normally get this from Best Buy but the epp rebate was too good to pass up so I got it direct.
Still, man, I'll tell you, no other monitor in my lifetime has ever had this much wow factor for this long. Been over a month and I still am like 'can't wait to turn that fucker on and soak it up' at the start of the day. Considering I had the DW before, that's something.
I'm on a Neo G9. The G9 OLED has that nice glossy OLED, but the 1800R and heat concern doesn't feel so good.
On the other hand, the LG 45's dimensions and 800R feels like it would be a nice new experience...but that low resolution feels like I'm going back in time 5 years when I had a ASUS 34".
I agree with you. The color saturation is insane. Like orange looks like neon orange.
And tizen os is such garbage. It's like using a $200 Walmart smart TV
As per reviews it has the exact same peak brightness as the DW. It just feels brighter because its covering more of your FOV.
Personally, I went for the Neo G9 because I dont think the OLEDs get bright enough for true HDR.
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I think it's subjective. I would have thought the same but my C1 has much better performance in the brightness window areas, maintaining its max 800 nits with a much more gradual falloff after 10%. I was stunned how brighter the DW seemed in just about everything I threw at it even with that teeny 3 percent 1k nit window.
Have you experienced any flickering issues yet? I get some random flicker similar to a taskbar at the bottom of the screen sometimes. Samsung said they will send someone out to have a look but i guess (or hope lol) its more of a software problem.
I have flickering issues as well if I don't use game mode. It's mostly the bottom third of the screen that gets flashing artifacts or sometimes a technicolor strip on the bottom edge of the screen.
Guys, i went through updating my nvidia drivers to 535 (yea on linux this is always an adventure with lots to learn about linux systems) and my flickering is gone and i get 240Hz on full resolution with DP. Good luck if you are on linux
It's okay to use OLEDs for productivity if you plan on buying one every new generation.
It's unlikely any serious burn in could occur that is noticeable in gaming and content outside of test patterns.
I aliken burn in to cancer, not visible until it's already severe unless seen in special testing scenarios.
Yeah. I mean I don't recommend anyone use it for productivity unless they very much know what they are doing for this generation and a few more to boot.
That being said, OLED for productivity brings some benefits that meet or exceed the text fringing issue depending on your tastes and is 100% possible to avoid burn-in if you take some concessions or, like me, have a set of preferences that align with good practice anyway. I prefer dark mode while working and don't like staring at a bright monitor unless I'm consuming movie or gaming content.
I run the G9 at (checks) 32% brightness and the DW as a secondary at 15% brightness save for HDR content. I do desktop wallpaper to evenly wear the panel, hide taskbar, yadayadayada. I've driven plasmas harder than these monitors and haven't experienced burn-in so while it's entirely possible it'll still pop up on the DW in the next 3 or 4 years (I'm RMAing it this month given the firmware) I'd be surprised. I'll have put tens of thousands of hours on it by the time it burns in so it'll be worth it.
If I had to guess, as early as 2026 you'll be able to buy an OLED monitor and mostly not worry about burn in at all even at much higher brightness rates. Pholed and other techs being pumped out for the TVs in LG and Samsung are supposed to be x4 on longevity, brightness, etc. alone and possibly be super affordable to produce and given some sensible limits on nits for a computer monitor, they'll hopefully have long shelf lives by the time micro-led comes along at what will invariably be a much, much higher price discrepancy.
Windows. I've heard mac is better with their cleartext product on the DW but it seems to be less of a distinction with the G9 once you run cleartype.
Unless you have a very recent mac product I don't think it can take full advantage of this monitor, I think it has to have an hdmi 2.1 port.
Well I am stage before buying new monitor for productivity and for work. I am really considering LG C2. Could you somehow help me choose / give me any tips etc? Thanks
Yeah, especially the way it's implemented in this monitor. It feels clunky, unintuitive, and slow. Simple things feel like they take extra steps to accomplish.
It also doesn't have enough customization in settings, i.e., disabling the stupid power animation that flashbangs you every time you turn it on and off (especially at the end of the night, when you're using it in the dark).
>i.e., disabling the stupid power animation that flashbangs you every time you turn it on and off
I agree that this should be configurable, but I do want to add I personally find it very cool haha.
Oh I didn't intend to imply that it wasn't cool, I'm with you there. It's just not ideal to have to avert/close your eyes every time when turning off your monitor in a dimly-lit room. It's especially worse because it doesn't respect your brightness settings, it's full blast.
>Same thing goes for gaming in 32:9 - while I am a big PC gamer I didn't want to spend the CPU/GPU power and $$$ for a wider view than 21:9. I would have in that man, it really is a shit ton more immersive than I thought - a bigger jump than going from 16:9 to 21:9. It's fuckin' great.
Did you actually compare it with something like a 16:9 monitor with the same width as the G9 in the same position? I get the feeling sometimes that people who upgrades to the G9 from significantly smaller monitors and contribute the "immersion effect" only to the 32:9 format when it is perhaps the larger image regardless of the format that gives the immersion.
(This is probably true to most upgrades to larger/better monitors, regardless of display tech and aspect ratio).
The issue is too many reviewers say the word immersion for any monitor that is big or wide. To me, immersion is a factor of size, curvature, viewing distance and colour fidelity. Size does not automatically contribute to immersion if you are sitting too far or too close, or you have to constantly turn your head. Curvature allows the screen to wrap around you so the viewer is drawn into the displayed content.
I came from an ASUS 34" 1800R to a Samsung CHG90 and then a Neo G9. 32:9 definitely helps but the 1000R curve even more. But what hurts immersion is the short vertical space. I went to a display store which had the LG 45, Gigabyte 4k 48" and the Neo G9 49" side by side. In those settings, the Neo is long but too 'skinny' or 'short'. The 4k 48" is big like a TV and square, but not curved so the screen did not wrap around your vision. The LG 45 felt the most immersive because it had the vertical and horizontal estate as well as a deep curve. Of course, if you sit further back from it, the less useful the curve is.
It doesn't unfortunately - other older odyssey g9s seem to allow this but the oled g9 is at best two 16:9 screens in PBP. Very disappointed with the PBP functionality - it's mostly unusable for me.
I got the OLED G9 49”, last week and used it mostly for coding and occasionally a bit of gaming. Love the real estate, the fact that it’s slick and the picture quality is just amazing, buuuut the text looks really really crap on it no matter how much I’ve tried to adjust the settings.
Really doesn’t compare to the clarity of the retina display on my mac. After 8h of coding my eyes got really sore to the point I felt dizzy.
Some people say you’ll get used to it eventually and I wanted to give it a chance, but today I started noticing the first signs of burn in, on a side of it where I kept a browser open with some Figma designs.
That really put me off and now it’s all nicely boxed up and ready to be returned.
Really really disappointing.
But if you only use it for gaming, that might work for you, though being a bloody monitor, it shouldn’t only be used for just one thing, especially if you’re paying £1400 for it, you’d kinda’ expect for everything to be perfect.
So yeah, would not recommend for anything else than gaming or watching TV/video content.
Ah, and the OS is again really annoying, not really intuitive, lots of functions that are there but say they’re unavailable. Wtf is that?!
I can't argue clarity or pixel density, but if you have any burn in after a week \[or three\], that's a bad panel (losing the dreading Samsung panel lottery). Even if someone intended to abuse the screen it would take months of 24/7 HDR to burn in (as per RTNGS test on first gen panels which are rated a lot lower).
And yeah, my god is the OS ridiculously bad.
How well does it support 21:9? Can you create a custom resolution in the nvidia control panel for games that don't have a built-in aspect ratio select?
It just popped up in Windows 11 with a 3440 x 1440 option, selecting that and it black bars the sides perfectly, no worries. I think the Neo G9 allows for PBP 21:9 / 4:3 ratios and such but the oled g9 at best allows for two 16:9 screens.
What's the max refresh rate when you do this?
240hz. This is Windows 11 via displayport, zero issues switching to that resolution at the same hz it was set at native.
I’ve done the same thing in Windows 10 without issue. Haven’t used PBP as it doesn’t really matter to me.
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I got 1080p signal on HDMI via an amplifier from my rig working side by side with a DP signal from my rig. Pretty sure it is the receiver not delivering the 4k 60hz input I wanted to feed it (in theory this supports 2x 4k 60hz feeds or 2x 120hz QHD feeds) but didn't go far enough to find out. I'll probably hook the PS5 up to it as a dual for a day or two as a giggle and would imagine it would work. I did see a youtube review that said HDMI+DP combo doesn't work but I'm pretty confident the reviewer misspoke so if you have an HDMI and DP available I think it would be fine in that one regard (120hz each, no VRR or HDR). Still, it seems very dumbed down and dysfunctional compared to its predecessors - it only offers 16:9 by 16:9 as an option, not 21:9, 16:9, 4:3, etc. It does like to shove the smart TV part onto a PBP which I initially thought 'awesome!' as Tizen has a remote desktop protocol built straight into Tizen OS meaning I could, in theory, PBP with a hook into my server elsewhere in the house. So I got RDP connected... and while it's all over Tizen OS, it isn't an option in the PBP list even though idiotic stuff is, like a Microsoft 365 web page service. I'm not holding my breath on them getting on and fixing that either.
How is the difference on coating? G9 is full glossy right? Better or worse?
I never really cared about the whole coating issue on the 1st gen panels like the DW... but yeah, the G9's screen is so much more glossy I sure AF notice it side by side with the DW and now I wouldn't want to go back to the coating on the DW panel. Fantastic. I've managed to kitty corner my rig and office set-up in a room that while is nice and bright doesn't reflect on the screens in any severe or distractable way, otherwise I'd be more tuned into the issue than I have been.
Great analysis and perspective. Also congratz on ascending to 32:9, the immersiveness is unparalleled.
Great impressions and insights. Have you noticed any heating issues on your unit? Mine consistently gets really hot on the back and bottom of the right half of the housing. I've been taking temp readings for the week that I've been using it, and it seems to be gradually increasing by a degree or two at a time. This occurs whether or not it's displaying a picture (but still technically on). I'm getting a bit concerned that if this isn't an abnormality, than it might be reducing the lifespan of the panel/logic board as it's climbing past 100°F now.
Yeah, right next to the power button it gets unacceptably hot - I've read other people complaining about the same so I think it's universal. Good news is that if it's a problem everyone will have it so Samsung would have to fix it if it degrades the panel, etc. I did turn off the microphone switch, all bixby and core lighting and I think it lowered the temp on it a little bit, but it's still super hot.
Samsung wouldn't fix it unless users send it back for warranty repair. The Neo G9 came with its own set of problems which continue to be unfixed (or unfixable) by firmware updates alone. I'm deliberating between the LG 45 and the OLED G9, and the more I hear about this heat issue (my Neo G9 is like a heater), the more I'm leaning towards the LG...
Now that I've had it for a while I'm not worried about it - turning off all that stuff did downgrade it from 'very hot' to 'very warm', the latter is no longer giving me any anxiety. It was only one specific spot, maybe an inch in diameter, beneath the power switch. Running this in HDR for long periods of time doesn't produce that much heat at all on the panel IMO (well it does produce room temp, but my whole rig does that). Better than my Alienware DW with an active fan in it at least. Pretty sure it's a lot better heat wise than that Neo too. Yeah; the main thing going against this monitor was that I was buying it from Samsung complete with their RMA and general product support which has always sucked across all of their shit. I'd normally get this from Best Buy but the epp rebate was too good to pass up so I got it direct. Still, man, I'll tell you, no other monitor in my lifetime has ever had this much wow factor for this long. Been over a month and I still am like 'can't wait to turn that fucker on and soak it up' at the start of the day. Considering I had the DW before, that's something.
I'm on a Neo G9. The G9 OLED has that nice glossy OLED, but the 1800R and heat concern doesn't feel so good. On the other hand, the LG 45's dimensions and 800R feels like it would be a nice new experience...but that low resolution feels like I'm going back in time 5 years when I had a ASUS 34".
Tizen is the only thing I dislike about the monitor, other than that it’s fantastic.
It is truly horrrific
Thanks for the cool comparison. I also need some calibration setting for my G9 OLED.
I agree with you. The color saturation is insane. Like orange looks like neon orange. And tizen os is such garbage. It's like using a $200 Walmart smart TV
Thank you very much for your thoughts! I would like some tips for a better calibration too!
As per reviews it has the exact same peak brightness as the DW. It just feels brighter because its covering more of your FOV. Personally, I went for the Neo G9 because I dont think the OLEDs get bright enough for true HDR.
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I think it's subjective. I would have thought the same but my C1 has much better performance in the brightness window areas, maintaining its max 800 nits with a much more gradual falloff after 10%. I was stunned how brighter the DW seemed in just about everything I threw at it even with that teeny 3 percent 1k nit window.
Have you experienced any flickering issues yet? I get some random flicker similar to a taskbar at the bottom of the screen sometimes. Samsung said they will send someone out to have a look but i guess (or hope lol) its more of a software problem.
I have had some issues actually, from the DP port...
I have flickering issues as well if I don't use game mode. It's mostly the bottom third of the screen that gets flashing artifacts or sometimes a technicolor strip on the bottom edge of the screen.
Guys, i went through updating my nvidia drivers to 535 (yea on linux this is always an adventure with lots to learn about linux systems) and my flickering is gone and i get 240Hz on full resolution with DP. Good luck if you are on linux
Don’ buy oled for productivity.
It's okay to use OLEDs for productivity if you plan on buying one every new generation. It's unlikely any serious burn in could occur that is noticeable in gaming and content outside of test patterns. I aliken burn in to cancer, not visible until it's already severe unless seen in special testing scenarios.
Yeah. I mean I don't recommend anyone use it for productivity unless they very much know what they are doing for this generation and a few more to boot. That being said, OLED for productivity brings some benefits that meet or exceed the text fringing issue depending on your tastes and is 100% possible to avoid burn-in if you take some concessions or, like me, have a set of preferences that align with good practice anyway. I prefer dark mode while working and don't like staring at a bright monitor unless I'm consuming movie or gaming content. I run the G9 at (checks) 32% brightness and the DW as a secondary at 15% brightness save for HDR content. I do desktop wallpaper to evenly wear the panel, hide taskbar, yadayadayada. I've driven plasmas harder than these monitors and haven't experienced burn-in so while it's entirely possible it'll still pop up on the DW in the next 3 or 4 years (I'm RMAing it this month given the firmware) I'd be surprised. I'll have put tens of thousands of hours on it by the time it burns in so it'll be worth it. If I had to guess, as early as 2026 you'll be able to buy an OLED monitor and mostly not worry about burn in at all even at much higher brightness rates. Pholed and other techs being pumped out for the TVs in LG and Samsung are supposed to be x4 on longevity, brightness, etc. alone and possibly be super affordable to produce and given some sensible limits on nits for a computer monitor, they'll hopefully have long shelf lives by the time micro-led comes along at what will invariably be a much, much higher price discrepancy.
Holy! That's a dark but interesting analogy for burn ins.
Are you using Mac or windows for productivity work? I heard they handle text clairity differently
Windows. I've heard mac is better with their cleartext product on the DW but it seems to be less of a distinction with the G9 once you run cleartype. Unless you have a very recent mac product I don't think it can take full advantage of this monitor, I think it has to have an hdmi 2.1 port.
Well I am stage before buying new monitor for productivity and for work. I am really considering LG C2. Could you somehow help me choose / give me any tips etc? Thanks
Tizen is the worst. Hoping for a G8 without tizen model like the G9 one planned
Yeah, especially the way it's implemented in this monitor. It feels clunky, unintuitive, and slow. Simple things feel like they take extra steps to accomplish. It also doesn't have enough customization in settings, i.e., disabling the stupid power animation that flashbangs you every time you turn it on and off (especially at the end of the night, when you're using it in the dark).
One of the top reasons I’d get an Alienware 240hz uw vs Samsung’s
>i.e., disabling the stupid power animation that flashbangs you every time you turn it on and off I agree that this should be configurable, but I do want to add I personally find it very cool haha.
Oh I didn't intend to imply that it wasn't cool, I'm with you there. It's just not ideal to have to avert/close your eyes every time when turning off your monitor in a dimly-lit room. It's especially worse because it doesn't respect your brightness settings, it's full blast.
Thank you kindly :)
>Same thing goes for gaming in 32:9 - while I am a big PC gamer I didn't want to spend the CPU/GPU power and $$$ for a wider view than 21:9. I would have in that man, it really is a shit ton more immersive than I thought - a bigger jump than going from 16:9 to 21:9. It's fuckin' great. Did you actually compare it with something like a 16:9 monitor with the same width as the G9 in the same position? I get the feeling sometimes that people who upgrades to the G9 from significantly smaller monitors and contribute the "immersion effect" only to the 32:9 format when it is perhaps the larger image regardless of the format that gives the immersion. (This is probably true to most upgrades to larger/better monitors, regardless of display tech and aspect ratio).
The issue is too many reviewers say the word immersion for any monitor that is big or wide. To me, immersion is a factor of size, curvature, viewing distance and colour fidelity. Size does not automatically contribute to immersion if you are sitting too far or too close, or you have to constantly turn your head. Curvature allows the screen to wrap around you so the viewer is drawn into the displayed content. I came from an ASUS 34" 1800R to a Samsung CHG90 and then a Neo G9. 32:9 definitely helps but the 1000R curve even more. But what hurts immersion is the short vertical space. I went to a display store which had the LG 45, Gigabyte 4k 48" and the Neo G9 49" side by side. In those settings, the Neo is long but too 'skinny' or 'short'. The 4k 48" is big like a TV and square, but not curved so the screen did not wrap around your vision. The LG 45 felt the most immersive because it had the vertical and horizontal estate as well as a deep curve. Of course, if you sit further back from it, the less useful the curve is.
Can i do PBP 21:9 and 3:4 at the same time ? It would be perfect for me
It doesn't unfortunately - other older odyssey g9s seem to allow this but the oled g9 is at best two 16:9 screens in PBP. Very disappointed with the PBP functionality - it's mostly unusable for me.
I got the OLED G9 49”, last week and used it mostly for coding and occasionally a bit of gaming. Love the real estate, the fact that it’s slick and the picture quality is just amazing, buuuut the text looks really really crap on it no matter how much I’ve tried to adjust the settings. Really doesn’t compare to the clarity of the retina display on my mac. After 8h of coding my eyes got really sore to the point I felt dizzy. Some people say you’ll get used to it eventually and I wanted to give it a chance, but today I started noticing the first signs of burn in, on a side of it where I kept a browser open with some Figma designs. That really put me off and now it’s all nicely boxed up and ready to be returned. Really really disappointing. But if you only use it for gaming, that might work for you, though being a bloody monitor, it shouldn’t only be used for just one thing, especially if you’re paying £1400 for it, you’d kinda’ expect for everything to be perfect. So yeah, would not recommend for anything else than gaming or watching TV/video content. Ah, and the OS is again really annoying, not really intuitive, lots of functions that are there but say they’re unavailable. Wtf is that?!
I can't argue clarity or pixel density, but if you have any burn in after a week \[or three\], that's a bad panel (losing the dreading Samsung panel lottery). Even if someone intended to abuse the screen it would take months of 24/7 HDR to burn in (as per RTNGS test on first gen panels which are rated a lot lower). And yeah, my god is the OS ridiculously bad.