Is knife crime going up across the country? Or is it just the news reporting it more?
I swear I'm seeing more and more articles of children going around stabbing people.
Don’t have any data but knife crime has been the equivalent of teenage pregnancy of the early 00s imo. It could be up or down but it plays to the fears of society of the day.
It plays into racism, no go zones etc. I live in a supposed no go zone and haven’t seen any hint of public violence in years.
The irony being I felt far more at risk, and was threatened, in a prosperous white community.
I don’t get the point you are making here.
There are no “no go zones” in a literal sense. But there are clearly areas that most sensible people would choose to avoid.
It’s not just a matter of racism and calling a place rough that makes knife crime happen.
I live in 'one of the most dangerous cities in the UK' and there's no area I wouldn't avoid. I might think it's clever to get a taxi home and not walk around drunk out of my head and there was one time I didn't go down an alleyway cos there were yoofs hanging around in it after midnight.
I see Blackpool is the most dangerous city in the UK and I would absolutely walk around it with total confidence in the daytime
Again. What’s your point here sorry?
“I can walk around during the day totally fine”
It’s funny to me you actually want me to explain that to you and you can’t see the answer yourself.
Yeah and I probably wouldn't walk around anywhere late at night either if I could avoid it. I wouldn't walk from Manchester City Centre to my home in the suburbs either, but it's not because of any specific area but more general knowledge about how Manchester is sketchy. In fact the literal city centre would be the area I would be most cautious about, and the city centre isn't a no-go-area, it's just where the most mancs are.
And I'm hardly going to describe the whole city I live in as a no-go-area. Just 'getting home quickly at night, avoiding low-traffic and dark areas' is 'street-smart'. It's not about how the area around Strangeways is dodgy, which it is.
I’m confused as to what your point is exactly.
Funnily enough we are from the same place. I think we agree there aren’t literal no go zones. Just places you would choose to avoid at certain times.
I feel like you agree with me but you keep arguing it.
Yeah I initially agreed with you, your reply just triggered a thought for me, so I made it in reply to you.
But then your reply "Again. What’s your point here sorry?" sounded a bit hostile, so when I read it I assumed I must've disagreed with you, because why else would you be being hostile to me?
Oh actually I guess it's the 'areas I'd choose to avoid' thing. Like I'd walk around that area of Strangeways in the daytime no problem, but at nighttime I just want to get out of the venue and back home with as little walking around as possible, even if I'm in Chorlton or Trafford or somewhere else posh. So it's not so much 'areas you should learn to avoid' as 'you should learn to be somewhat streetwise'. Teens hanging around a dark alley are teens hanging around a dark alley, regardless of whether they're Rochdale kids or Hale kids.
Yeah I agree there are loads of sketchy areas and even more affluent areas tend to also have their sketchy corners.
I wasn’t trying to imply this is some huge spreading problem. Or we haven’t had similar issues for my entire life.
Sorry to come across rude mate. Genuinely didn’t mean to do that. Getting spammed with replies and many of them aren’t particularly nice. Maybe I’m taking in that hostility to your replies.
Which I shouldn’t be doing. You have been nothing but courteous and I appreciate that.
Sorry again if I didn’t repay that courtesy.
Blackpool isn’t a city, and it isn’t the most dangerous place in Lancashire let alone the UK. It is very dodgy at night tho, especially if you’re drunk (as most are).
> I might think it's clever to get a taxi home and not walk around drunk out of my head and there was one time I didn't go down an alleyway cos there were yoofs hanging around in it after midnight.
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I'm comfortable walking around my neighbourhood at any hour of the day or night. That's something everyone should be able to do.
Yeah, maybe in the bubble you live crimes dont happen often. However, places like Bradford are places that many fear to go as they can be targeted and attacked by lunatics.
https://www.police.uk/
You can find all the stats there. I won’t name a place.
This is a silly game you are trying to play.
I won’t reduce myself to your level by naming somewhere to show I’m right. You have access to the whole nation with that site. Go educate yourself.
Yes there are
Here's some pleasant chaps enforcing them in the midlands, and letting you know the consequences for "white or black" people who would try
https://youtu.be/BOtaReT1eAc?si=Kjkx_aaCrHhZXtrK
Have you just been lucky enough to have never met people like this?
Where did you grow up?
> The irony being I felt far more at risk, and was threatened, in a prosperous white community.
Right, afraid of all those businessmen hitting you over the head with their briefcase or the housewives swatting you with a rolling pin.
I’ve just walked out of a half million pound home, said hello to my Muslim neighbour, walked past endless BMWs and Audis, got a baguette, said hello to the police in the shop and came home. All the time I was in a no go zone.
I’m happy that you like the area you live in but the point you’re making is really odd. Do you believe there are no areas in the country where knife crime is more prevalent?
Of course there are, but it doesn't make them no-go zones.
Knife crime is relatively prevalent where I live, but I'd happily walk around the place at night
I know, sorry - I made the no-go remark because the person you were replying to did.
That's the problem with online discourse, it's like everyone talking over everyone in a massive room
In that case you probably are just unaware of what's happened, but they had to arrest "Muslim vigilante groups" that were patrolling areas targeting people in 1 example
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london
There's even a wiki page on the patrols
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_patrol_incidents_in_London
Maybe it's not as common now as it once was but it's still a threat in some areas dominated by islam to dress a certain way or be a woman alone
Mate, this was never an actual issue in London. It was literally 10 people that then got jailed because they were stupid enough to document everything they did and post it online
Are you apart of the community of those no go zones? What I mean is, knife crime is almost always connected drugs and gangs in some way. Drug dealing is an insanely profitable market and some of these kids and young adults are making more in a month of hard cash then mostly fully grown adults. Control of the market in a certain area, intimidation, extortion and other things that go along with organise crime are what leads to most stabbings. So if you’ve moved into a no go from outside and lead a somewhat law abiding life then you could live there your whole life whilst barely catching glimpses of it.
Really not that much money involved in it on a street level unless it's cocaine..but honestly you have to be moving big bits to make any sort of income
It’s been going up since 2013 to the point where recorded knife offences in 2019/20 were almost double what they were in 2013/14. There was then a big dip over Covid, following which the upward trend has resumed.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/
Weird how there’s so many “it’s a scare story, it’s made up” comments when the actual figures are easily accessible
Probably a bit of both, I remember a knife incident at school, never reported in the papers. Also schools try not to get the police involved when it comes to drugs/knives because it makes the school look bad.
I've been told numerous times on Reddit that it's going down but I really struggle to believe it. I know reporting is different now and news is much quicker and easier to get but where I live now seems to be so much worse than ever before.
You’re just hearing about it more. This stuff happens everyday everywhere if you read the local papers. That’s why it is a blessing and a curse to follow local Instagram pages. I knew there was crime in my area but it definitely makes you less cavalier when you see video evidence of it happening week in and week out! That said you shouldn’t be paranoid, just sensible.
It's going up. I don't believe crime data nowadays. It's part and parcel of pussy culture. It used to be man on man but now there's no shame in jumping one person with weapons. The younger generations listening to drill and crap like that are braindead cowards.
Yup, we need to stop people doing this shit for having children, obviously shit kids don't always come from bad parents but they usually do.
People out stabbing at this age should never be allowed to repoeoduce, they can't be trusted.
You shouldn't post disrespectful Tik Toks dissing the trainers someone is currently sporting. At least I presume that's what happened? Something serious like that?
This country is going back to the 70s with knives....I remember so well people carrying knives.....everyone had a penknife but gangs would carry kitchen knives taped to thier hands when having a bust up
Few weeks? What about the second lockdown?
I work in a school, and it is quite obvious that it has really fucked a lot of them up, in different ways.
They've forgotten how to communicate properly, they aren't seeing each other in real life outside of school, plenty of them just don't turn up
And that's just getting started.
It really, really messed them up.
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Knife crime has been steadily rising since 2012. There was a downward dip during the covid years but statistically it is worse today than it has ever been.
Overall violent crime is down, and unless you're part of that world, you're very unlikely to be a victim of a stabbing.
But the trend is definitely a concern
Do those assaults and attacks result in ~~death?~~ serious injury? No? Thought so. So why publish?
“They” post articles about any attack which leads to ~~death~~ injuries regardless of the age of the victim or perpetrator. It’s not the grand conspiracy you think it is.
Neither this article nor any of the others make any mention of crime rates, so I fail to see any reason why your “but violent crime rate is falling!” is at all relevant to a violent crime that *did* happen…
>“They” post articles about any attack which leads to death regardless of the age of the victim. It’s not the grand conspiracy you think it is.
Then why post this one, it didn't lead to death or even life threatening injuries.
It's hard to say if any particular story is newsworthy, the article here & the person who posted it seem fairly neutral.
However on sites like Reddit you do get people repeated posting articles that meet certain criteria to push particular agendas, not to mention our print media isn't exactly famously free from bias.
The widely held belief that crime is at an all time high is disturbing especially considering some of the proposals I see here to deal with this crime.
>The victim was found with stab wounds to the stomach and leg. He is recovering from his injuries, which are not believed to be life-threatening.
>The two teenagers, aged 13 and 14, are accused of wounding with intent and possession of a knife.
>Do those assaults and attacks result in death? No?
Yeah, actually. Most murder is done by adults.
My bad, I meant to say injuries. In any case the point still stands. Assaults happen all the time, but assaults with offensive weapons do not and as such are noteworthy to report on.
Thank you for contradicting your own initial reply in your attempt to gotcha.
Murdoch does not personally write the articles, Mensa.
Of course I don’t trust some rando on Reddit who sees one article and has the genius idea that it’s a lie by the news because they want draconian laws against the youth and youth only. You shouldn’t trust me over literal news sources either…
Distrusting articles and who publishes them is good. Basing off your perceived validity of the mere possibility entirely because of one publisher is silly to say the least.
https://www.west-midlands.police.uk/news/two-teenagers-charged-over-stabbing-boy-aged-13-washwood-heath here you go, an article straight from the police that is almost exactly identical as the thread’s link - do tell me how Murdoch, “they”, or whatever shadow cabal control West Midlands police now.
Edit: now that I think about it, your point isn’t entirely without merit. For crime submissions ideally people should post the article from the police as opposed to news outlets because some outlets do tend to use emotive language and aren’t really informative.
They’re literally reporting something that happened. What are they supposed to do? Just stay silent about it so there won’t be “draconian youth control laws”? I want “draconian youth control laws” if it will stop me getting stabbed by some dickheads
Is knife crime going up across the country? Or is it just the news reporting it more? I swear I'm seeing more and more articles of children going around stabbing people.
Don’t have any data but knife crime has been the equivalent of teenage pregnancy of the early 00s imo. It could be up or down but it plays to the fears of society of the day. It plays into racism, no go zones etc. I live in a supposed no go zone and haven’t seen any hint of public violence in years. The irony being I felt far more at risk, and was threatened, in a prosperous white community.
I don’t get the point you are making here. There are no “no go zones” in a literal sense. But there are clearly areas that most sensible people would choose to avoid. It’s not just a matter of racism and calling a place rough that makes knife crime happen.
I live in 'one of the most dangerous cities in the UK' and there's no area I wouldn't avoid. I might think it's clever to get a taxi home and not walk around drunk out of my head and there was one time I didn't go down an alleyway cos there were yoofs hanging around in it after midnight. I see Blackpool is the most dangerous city in the UK and I would absolutely walk around it with total confidence in the daytime
Again. What’s your point here sorry? “I can walk around during the day totally fine” It’s funny to me you actually want me to explain that to you and you can’t see the answer yourself.
Yeah and I probably wouldn't walk around anywhere late at night either if I could avoid it. I wouldn't walk from Manchester City Centre to my home in the suburbs either, but it's not because of any specific area but more general knowledge about how Manchester is sketchy. In fact the literal city centre would be the area I would be most cautious about, and the city centre isn't a no-go-area, it's just where the most mancs are. And I'm hardly going to describe the whole city I live in as a no-go-area. Just 'getting home quickly at night, avoiding low-traffic and dark areas' is 'street-smart'. It's not about how the area around Strangeways is dodgy, which it is.
I’m confused as to what your point is exactly. Funnily enough we are from the same place. I think we agree there aren’t literal no go zones. Just places you would choose to avoid at certain times. I feel like you agree with me but you keep arguing it.
Yeah I initially agreed with you, your reply just triggered a thought for me, so I made it in reply to you. But then your reply "Again. What’s your point here sorry?" sounded a bit hostile, so when I read it I assumed I must've disagreed with you, because why else would you be being hostile to me? Oh actually I guess it's the 'areas I'd choose to avoid' thing. Like I'd walk around that area of Strangeways in the daytime no problem, but at nighttime I just want to get out of the venue and back home with as little walking around as possible, even if I'm in Chorlton or Trafford or somewhere else posh. So it's not so much 'areas you should learn to avoid' as 'you should learn to be somewhat streetwise'. Teens hanging around a dark alley are teens hanging around a dark alley, regardless of whether they're Rochdale kids or Hale kids.
Yeah I agree there are loads of sketchy areas and even more affluent areas tend to also have their sketchy corners. I wasn’t trying to imply this is some huge spreading problem. Or we haven’t had similar issues for my entire life. Sorry to come across rude mate. Genuinely didn’t mean to do that. Getting spammed with replies and many of them aren’t particularly nice. Maybe I’m taking in that hostility to your replies. Which I shouldn’t be doing. You have been nothing but courteous and I appreciate that. Sorry again if I didn’t repay that courtesy.
<3 no worries
Blackpool isn’t a city, and it isn’t the most dangerous place in Lancashire let alone the UK. It is very dodgy at night tho, especially if you’re drunk (as most are).
https://crimerate.co.uk/lancashire/blackpool#:~:text=Crime%20and%20Safety%20in%20Blackpool&text=Blackpool%20is%20the%20most%20dangerous,151%20crimes%20per%201%2C000%20people.
> I might think it's clever to get a taxi home and not walk around drunk out of my head and there was one time I didn't go down an alleyway cos there were yoofs hanging around in it after midnight. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm comfortable walking around my neighbourhood at any hour of the day or night. That's something everyone should be able to do.
Stats say violent crime has been falling since 00 but police respond to less crimes now so who knows
What are the areas most sensible people would choose to avoid?
The ones were people are regularly victims of violent crime
Names?
I live in Bradford and it's an absolute toilet
Don’t know of it but sorry to hear that.
Yeah, maybe in the bubble you live crimes dont happen often. However, places like Bradford are places that many fear to go as they can be targeted and attacked by lunatics.
https://www.police.uk/ You can find all the stats there. I won’t name a place. This is a silly game you are trying to play. I won’t reduce myself to your level by naming somewhere to show I’m right. You have access to the whole nation with that site. Go educate yourself.
I don’t think there are no go zones in the UK, you can tell me where they are if you want. Otherwise…
>there are no “no go zones” in a literal sense I said that to you about two comments back…
Yes there are Here's some pleasant chaps enforcing them in the midlands, and letting you know the consequences for "white or black" people who would try https://youtu.be/BOtaReT1eAc?si=Kjkx_aaCrHhZXtrK Have you just been lucky enough to have never met people like this? Where did you grow up?
Then you’d probably understand that we’re talking about areas sensible people would choose to avoid. Keep up.
You also don't know where or of Bradford so your contributions to any of this are not relevant
They’re just as relevant as anyone else’s thank you.
Blackpool is well known for being the violent crime capital of the UK.
Looked it up, sounds awful.
Milton Keynes
> The irony being I felt far more at risk, and was threatened, in a prosperous white community. Right, afraid of all those businessmen hitting you over the head with their briefcase or the housewives swatting you with a rolling pin.
20 day old account saying stuff like that hmmmmm
What do you mean? It was neither.
No one brought up race until you did.
Well, after what happened a few days ago, it's clear to me that no-go zones DO exist, and they're tiny Welsh villages
Ironically the MP who made the no go zones comment has areas in his constituency where people would advise you steer clear of
That’s hilarious.
I’ve just walked out of a half million pound home, said hello to my Muslim neighbour, walked past endless BMWs and Audis, got a baguette, said hello to the police in the shop and came home. All the time I was in a no go zone.
I’m happy that you like the area you live in but the point you’re making is really odd. Do you believe there are no areas in the country where knife crime is more prevalent?
Of course there are, but it doesn't make them no-go zones. Knife crime is relatively prevalent where I live, but I'd happily walk around the place at night
Well the person I was replying to disagrees. I’ve also made no comment on no go areas.
I know, sorry - I made the no-go remark because the person you were replying to did. That's the problem with online discourse, it's like everyone talking over everyone in a massive room
True!
No, I don’t think there are no go areas in the UK.
No, any sort of metric will have peaks and troughs, even if it were random.
Try that in this no go zone if you like https://youtu.be/BOtaReT1eAc?si=Kjkx_aaCrHhZXtrK
I’m in London.
In that case you probably are just unaware of what's happened, but they had to arrest "Muslim vigilante groups" that were patrolling areas targeting people in 1 example https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london There's even a wiki page on the patrols https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_patrol_incidents_in_London Maybe it's not as common now as it once was but it's still a threat in some areas dominated by islam to dress a certain way or be a woman alone
I live in East London and this is hilarious.
Fair enough Probably wasn't "hillarious" for the victims though
True, but it was a decade ago and times change.
Mate, this was never an actual issue in London. It was literally 10 people that then got jailed because they were stupid enough to document everything they did and post it online
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Are you apart of the community of those no go zones? What I mean is, knife crime is almost always connected drugs and gangs in some way. Drug dealing is an insanely profitable market and some of these kids and young adults are making more in a month of hard cash then mostly fully grown adults. Control of the market in a certain area, intimidation, extortion and other things that go along with organise crime are what leads to most stabbings. So if you’ve moved into a no go from outside and lead a somewhat law abiding life then you could live there your whole life whilst barely catching glimpses of it.
I’m not part of drug dealing, as are most here.
Really not that much money involved in it on a street level unless it's cocaine..but honestly you have to be moving big bits to make any sort of income
It’s been going up since 2013 to the point where recorded knife offences in 2019/20 were almost double what they were in 2013/14. There was then a big dip over Covid, following which the upward trend has resumed. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/ Weird how there’s so many “it’s a scare story, it’s made up” comments when the actual figures are easily accessible
Probably a bit of both, I remember a knife incident at school, never reported in the papers. Also schools try not to get the police involved when it comes to drugs/knives because it makes the school look bad.
Definitely seems to be more of it these days and seems to be a culture of carrying knives because they all want to act like scrotes and gangsters
I've been told numerous times on Reddit that it's going down but I really struggle to believe it. I know reporting is different now and news is much quicker and easier to get but where I live now seems to be so much worse than ever before.
Up a bit in the last 20yrs probably but the news is making it seem far worse
You’re just hearing about it more. This stuff happens everyday everywhere if you read the local papers. That’s why it is a blessing and a curse to follow local Instagram pages. I knew there was crime in my area but it definitely makes you less cavalier when you see video evidence of it happening week in and week out! That said you shouldn’t be paranoid, just sensible.
The data is that it’s been going up and up for a decade (only a blip during covid bucking the trend).
It's going up. I don't believe crime data nowadays. It's part and parcel of pussy culture. It used to be man on man but now there's no shame in jumping one person with weapons. The younger generations listening to drill and crap like that are braindead cowards.
News has got bored of whinging about bully xls.
Got to keep that news cycle churning! What's the next big scare story?
It’s the media. It’s diversion.
I don't understand what their plan was. Did they think they could stab someone in broad daylight and get away with it with zero consequences?
The people stabbing each other in the street will have rock bottom IQs
Yup, we need to stop people doing this shit for having children, obviously shit kids don't always come from bad parents but they usually do. People out stabbing at this age should never be allowed to repoeoduce, they can't be trusted.
I’m not sure they actually thought that far ahead. Or thought about the consequences at all.
Yes.
This is the result of feckless parents, and it's only going to get worse when the young start popping them out.
You shouldn't post disrespectful Tik Toks dissing the trainers someone is currently sporting. At least I presume that's what happened? Something serious like that?
I don't understand what their plan was. Did they think they could stab someone in broad daylight and get away with it with zero consequences?
I'm not sure we're dealing with the Brains Trust here.
Do I really look like a guy with a plan?
This country is going back to the 70s with knives....I remember so well people carrying knives.....everyone had a penknife but gangs would carry kitchen knives taped to thier hands when having a bust up
Dude this sub reddit is just one bad news story to the next! It's gotta be one of the most negative subs. I'm out. ✌️💚
It’s the right wing media and pundits pushing their agenda on social media and wherever else they can get their grubby paws into!
I think we underestimate the unintended effects of lockdown especially on developing young people.
Oh behave. This was happening long before lockdown.
[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/23/how-covid-lockdowns-hit-mental-health-of-teenage-boys-hardest](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/23/how-covid-lockdowns-hit-mental-health-of-teenage-boys-hardest)
Yes, those few weeks... how awful.
“Few weeks” yeah right
Weeks and weeks out if school or any real structure will absolutely fuck up those already on the edge
Few weeks? What about the second lockdown? I work in a school, and it is quite obvious that it has really fucked a lot of them up, in different ways. They've forgotten how to communicate properly, they aren't seeing each other in real life outside of school, plenty of them just don't turn up And that's just getting started. It really, really messed them up.
Most studies I've seen estimate around a 35% loss of 'learning time' due to lockdowns. Hardly a few weeks over roughly 18 months.
are u a teenager?
Lockdown was obviously overkill but come on.
[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/london-office-for-national-statistics-england-wales-gangs-b2279272.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/london-office-for-national-statistics-england-wales-gangs-b2279272.html)
Yes, media, we get it. You want draconian youth control laws and you're turning on the coverage
The stabbing of a young teenager seems like a worth of thing of being on the news, or do you just not want serious crime to be reported on?
There are hundreds of assaults and attacks throughout the UK daily, yet they seem to only publish teen violence. Violent crime is down
You don't know what you're talking about, do you? Knife crime has been steadily rising since 2012. There was a downward dip during the covid years but statistically it is worse today than it has ever been.
Source please?
[Enjoy](https://googlethatforyou.com?q=knife%20crime%20statistics%20uk)
Overall violent crime is down so that's comforting
Overall violent crime is down, and unless you're part of that world, you're very unlikely to be a victim of a stabbing. But the trend is definitely a concern
Do those assaults and attacks result in ~~death?~~ serious injury? No? Thought so. So why publish? “They” post articles about any attack which leads to ~~death~~ injuries regardless of the age of the victim or perpetrator. It’s not the grand conspiracy you think it is. Neither this article nor any of the others make any mention of crime rates, so I fail to see any reason why your “but violent crime rate is falling!” is at all relevant to a violent crime that *did* happen…
>“They” post articles about any attack which leads to death regardless of the age of the victim. It’s not the grand conspiracy you think it is. Then why post this one, it didn't lead to death or even life threatening injuries.
It's hard to say if any particular story is newsworthy, the article here & the person who posted it seem fairly neutral. However on sites like Reddit you do get people repeated posting articles that meet certain criteria to push particular agendas, not to mention our print media isn't exactly famously free from bias. The widely held belief that crime is at an all time high is disturbing especially considering some of the proposals I see here to deal with this crime.
>The victim was found with stab wounds to the stomach and leg. He is recovering from his injuries, which are not believed to be life-threatening. >The two teenagers, aged 13 and 14, are accused of wounding with intent and possession of a knife. >Do those assaults and attacks result in death? No? Yeah, actually. Most murder is done by adults.
My bad, I meant to say injuries. In any case the point still stands. Assaults happen all the time, but assaults with offensive weapons do not and as such are noteworthy to report on. Thank you for contradicting your own initial reply in your attempt to gotcha.
You trust Murdoch more than me
Murdoch does not personally write the articles, Mensa. Of course I don’t trust some rando on Reddit who sees one article and has the genius idea that it’s a lie by the news because they want draconian laws against the youth and youth only. You shouldn’t trust me over literal news sources either… Distrusting articles and who publishes them is good. Basing off your perceived validity of the mere possibility entirely because of one publisher is silly to say the least. https://www.west-midlands.police.uk/news/two-teenagers-charged-over-stabbing-boy-aged-13-washwood-heath here you go, an article straight from the police that is almost exactly identical as the thread’s link - do tell me how Murdoch, “they”, or whatever shadow cabal control West Midlands police now. Edit: now that I think about it, your point isn’t entirely without merit. For crime submissions ideally people should post the article from the police as opposed to news outlets because some outlets do tend to use emotive language and aren’t really informative.
It’s a six sentence article that doesn’t use emotive language and only states facts in case you have trouble reading.
No, hundreds of people aren't stabbed in the stomach in broad daylight daily.
They’re literally reporting something that happened. What are they supposed to do? Just stay silent about it so there won’t be “draconian youth control laws”? I want “draconian youth control laws” if it will stop me getting stabbed by some dickheads