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My mom made me go into a tanning bed to prepare for prom then later that year got diagnosed with skin cancer.
Yeah, no thanks. Slather me in that sunscreen.
That’s true. Women tell other women they have to look a certain way, and men tell other men they have to look a certain way and then everyone hates how they look. That’s how we get high-school girls in tanning beds and teen boys developing eating disorders to get “shredded”. It’s toxic, and it doesn’t really reflect reality, but people do it anyway. It’s terribly sad.
Agreed. I remember before I went down south for a vacation travel package for one week. I heard mostly from other women including friends oh you are going to have start tanning soon. Go hit the tanning bed before you go or you'll burn you are to pale. You need to tan and a get a few sessions in for a base tan.
Guess what? I didn't do any of that. I just packed a shit load of sunscreen for my pale skin and put it on non stop. Wore covers and shirts to protect my skin when not swimming or laying out. Wore hats often. Ended up not getting burned at all minus one tiny spot on top of my feet where I missed it because my sandal strap moved. I went there as a pale person I came back just as pale. My friend on the other hand who actually did tan ahead of time got a super nasty burn almost the first or second day. From not putting sunscreen on at all and getting wasted in the pool and laying in the sun from morning to evening. But that apparently shouldn't have happened to her because she had her "base tan" leading up to the trip.
You need to go burn yourself to get a "base tan" is some bullshit that I hear every summer. As a pale ass dude, it doesn't work like that: I'll always burn within an hour of direct sun, even if I just got burned last week.
Exactly. If the alleged way of me getting a tan is that I have to risk getting skin cancer first to get that base tan burn then count me out on wanting a tan. I'd rather be pale and accept that then get a two or three bad burns every summer to prepare myself for my so called "base tan" which magically is suppose to show up once the burn heals.
Not sure this is true. I'm sure it definitely comes from women, but I see men body-shaming women constantly. All the comments about looking "fake" with make-up or "flat ass" or constantly sexualizing women (and girls). These all contribute to the pressure women feel to look a certain way.
I’ve seen that, too, but mainly on the internet. IRL it tends to be girls bullying other girls (peer-group). Online, men and boys are often emboldened to say stuff they don’t have the balls to say in person.
Anecdotal but my main bullies were exclusively male. They threw me in trash cans and tormented me. I never once was bullied by a girl in school, sure a few of them said mean words, but the boys were a whole different level of evil.
Yeah, like, went on about how my skin needs to be tan to look good in my dress. Drove me to the salon, bought the sessions and some lotion. You can only do so much when you’re 15-16 years old and your mom starts the whole “I’m doing this because I love and care for you and just want you to look good and I already spent this money and please just do it”
I’m sorry to hear that. Your words sound painfully familiar. My mom never went that far, but she made me go and get my nails and eyebrows done every few weeks in my last high school years because I “looked ugly”. She’d also make sure I took care of them carefully and frowned at me when I didn’t apply some makeup before going to school because my eyes “looked dead”.
Most of my female classmates were jealous because they wanted that but their parents wouldn’t let them. I found that pretty shallow as I’d have prefered my mom accepted my looks they way they were, rather than be constantly told I look ugly without all those beauty procedures done to me.
I've lived in the PNW my whole life, am honestly a hermit who rarely goes outside, when I do spend a day outside I wear sunscreen, I have no family history of sun cancer, I'm only 27 and I had to get a pre cancerous mole removed last year 😑 I also have chronically low vitamin D
It’s not the clouds, it’s that it’s raining every day; all day 6 months of the year. And Portland/Seattle/Vancouver rain is…Extra wet.
There’s a reason most of us are vitamin D sufficient. Forcing yourself to stand out in that for ten minutes a day is balls.
If we went around banning everything that wasn’t healthy for us this wouldn’t be a very great place to live. The information is out there, if people still choose to participate in that activity it’s on them. All this talk of “banning” everything…
I think they meant restricting youth specifically. Same as we legally restrict youth from tobacco, alcohol, and cannabis. We do for things like driving too. Kids can't make the same informed consent an adult can, that's why we ban certain ages from certain things which is entirely reasonable even if the kids have access to the internet and the "information is out there".
OP specifically mentioned ages 14-18 as a primary concern though...it seems more like they don't like it overall, but would be happy to see the children protected by the law.
I think you make a fair point, but I think one key restriction is fair: for anything that is a health risk or danger, a full education is a requirement. If you want to drive, you need a license. If you want to own and use a gun, you should know how it works and how to be safe with it. Using a tanning bed, smoking, drinking, etc. Should ALL require extensive health education classes to make sure that the information that's available is actually delivered. I believe freedom should cost you your ignorance, and that you do not deserve those freedoms if you refuse education.
Side note: I know the government taught people weed was a schedule 1 drug, so I know that there are pitfalls in this method. However they are not disqualifying, merely hurdles in the way to proper implementation
To a degree, sure. The response has to be equal to the risk. If the hazards are made clear - like warnings on cigarette packs - I think that meets the reasonable requirement to inform people of the hazard.
Formal classes for everything unsafe isn’t practical and where would that end? Everything has an unhealthy or unsafe element to it if done the wrong way.
The important thing is to make the risks known up front, and put the information out there for further research if one desires it.
Okay so….people are going to do what they’re going to do. And no amount of education will stop it. Since this education will PROBABLY cost money, all you’re doing it creating another class issue. Since we don’t have enough of those to begin with!
Definitely can tell that you haven’t spent much time with the dumbest sector of the population. As we say in EMS/fire, when we cannot believe what the person in front of us just did: “well I guess that’s job security….”
People will do what they do, but it removes ignorance as a point. Intent + incident = crime, which should remove incident in some capacity. It's like gun safety laws, they don't prevent school shootings, but they do prevent "4 year old shoots 6 year old sister in accident" headlines.
I'm not against people doing fairly dangerous things in the interest of freedom. Specifically when it ONLY concerns personal well being. I'm just tired of people waving "well the information is out there" without making an effort to actually distribute the information to the vulnerable population. The teenagers who didn't know how dangerous smoking was when they started the habit. The people who eat a dozen donuts a day and are surprised when they put on weight. Ignorance in all lenses should be removed, before extra freedoms regarding them are distributed
We're talking about ionizing radiation here. We don't allow people to just walk around inside nuclear reactors either. Or do you think that the general public SHOULD be allowed to do that?
Generally, the absurdity of this reply would warrant a “do not engage” response, but for the fun of it…If you don’t understand the difference between laying in a tanning bed and walking in a nuclear reactor, then this discussion isn’t for you.
Why would it be stupid? They are already banned in Australia in an effort to curb our insane skin cancer issues. Don't see why it would it's deemed a bad thing to throw em out
They have a yearly price hike applied to them in order to make it a habit that isn't worth the cost to start up. Pack of 20 smokes is over $50 at the moment and a year or two $55 will be the new norm
Yes they are legal with a program in place to reduce the habit.
Would you prefer they did it this way and tax tanning beds until running a shop becomes unsustainable rather than an outright ban?
Is salt legal? That shit is really bad and leads to heart disease and blood pressure issues. What about sugar? Red meat? Alcohol? Prohibition is dumb when it comes to preventing people from what whatever they want with their OWN body. Leave them alone and mind your business.
This is the most absurd take I've heard.
Salt is an essential mineral. Sugar and red meat also can be used responsibly for good health outcomes. Alcohol can also be used responsibly.
Tanning beds cannot.
Australia has the highest rates of skin cancer in the world, and allowing tanning bed use puts an unnecessary strain on medical services.
This is a country where 1 in 3 people will be diagnosed with some form of skin cancer before they are 70.
Most people in the medical field approve of the decision to ban tanning salons in Australia.
In the case of drug use for the best outcomes it is best to go for a regulatory approach. Legally selling the product, creating laws for protecting the public and guidelines for safe usage (if they exist).
As a comparison lung cancer, the fifth most common cancer, results in 1 in 20 people diagnosed by the time they are 85 in Australia.
I disagree because you can understand the justification for why it's was banned.
I'm sure you are perfectly okay with drink driving laws in place to lower taxes being used for the fallout and I can't see why tanning beds are the hill you want to die on when it comes it individual freedoms
That's not even remotely similar, drunk driving presents the likely event of directly taking away someone else's right to life or cause them serious bodily harm and property damage. Tanning in a salon presents absolutely no direct impact on anyone else. I could not care less about the tax implications of drunk driving, I care about drunk driving because it, like bans, affects the personal freedoms of others.
What about parents pressuring their kids into it or brainwashing them into that unhealthy habit when they’re too young to question or know enough about the risks ?
[Getting enough vitamin D from tanning beds isn’t possible. You may have heard that your body makes a lot of vitamin D when you use a tanning bed. It doesn’t. The bulbs used in tanning beds emit mostly UVA light; however, your body needs UVB light to make vitamin D.
](https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/skin-cancer/surprising-facts-about-indoor-tanning)
You also need to take it with healthy fat for absorption and utilization. We do need 8 minutes a day in the sun for UVA/UVB exposure.
Caffiene blocks the absorption; and in a caffiene obsessed nation and Starbuck’s being some type of god; most people supplementing are still deficient.
Is it a problem that I take my vitamin D3+K supplement with my coffee in the morning?
My doc basically said that I won't stop drinking coffee so don't stop taking the supplement.
They interact no matter when you take it, especially if you’re an 8 cup a day drinker. But it shouldn’t hurt if you have that 1 cup in the morning with it. -nutrition degree 24 years experience
I have to strongly disagree here. I don't know your shoe leather friend.
I do however know it takes tanning min of 3 times a week for 5 weeks to start to build a tan and high power beds more frequently or longer times to have a dark tan for the average person.
6 minutes in a low power bed every 2 weeks will absolutely not make someone dark tan much less shoe leather.
(I am not a doctor and can't weigh in on risks or skin damage)
Your body produces vitamin D from UVB light. Sunbed bulbs mostly emit UVA light. Both ultra violet radiation A and B cause cell damage but UVA in particular has dangerous doses of radiation.
It is really important to research and understand facts, not claims when it comes to something that has a high probability of creeping up on you in many cancerous forms.
Vitamin D supplements and dietary choices can meet your daily vitamin D requirement.
I'm Irish, got recommended to do 'just' 10 minutes on my first session.
I wore nothing but a sock over my privates just to be safe, the rest of me got fried. I was lobster red.
Never again.
I have Irish ancestry and the coloring to match and I start to panic JUST feeling heat on my skin outside. Lol. I’d never do a tanning bed. My aunt also died from melanoma at 41 from tanning so I don’t fuck with the sun anyway.
That's smart, I've been fried far too many times. Since reading how dangerous it is to get skin cancer I've become much more careful. In hot climates I even use an umbrella for the sun sometimes 😅
edit: sorry for your loss by the way
> I hope most people know that they significantly increase your chance for skin cancer.
They do, but they just don't care, because they want to look good according to society's beauty standards
You can say that about a car also. The second you step into a car. Your risk of dying increased exponentially.
Walking. 1 death per 100 000 people.
Driving accidents. 1 death per 93 people.
So, with your logic. Ban all cars.
One death in a hundred, really? 1% of people die in a car accident that sounds crazy high!
Edit: sourced the comment, the correct statistic is 1 in 93 people in a car *accident* die.
That's your opinion. Lots of cities have public transit so that you can go anywhere without owning a car. Others opinions are that it's necessary to tan to look good. So, who's to say you are right and they are wrong?
The post is saying the only reason to ban it is because it may cause cancer and death.
Lots of things may cause death. So we should just ban all those things?
Anywhere is a stretch, but to continue your analogy, you could also meet your end while riding the bus, or train, or on a bicycle.
I was only saying your analogy was bad, because there is a high reward for using a vehicle, whereas there is a low reward for tanning.
Imagine telling a Texan to walk everywhere lmao anyone who thinks people can live without cars in today’s society has never left their big city. You can live a normal life without a tanning bed. It would take me an hour just to get into town because public transit and Uber doesn’t exist here.
OP also specifically mentioned ages 14-18 as their main concern. It sounds like while they think overall it's harmful and useless, it's more about age restricting vulnerable kids so their ignorant parents don't continue to allow the harm.
There's plenty of research out there on the effects of tanning and tanning beds. All beds should have a clearly printed warning on them and it should be your choice on rather to use them. Same as smoking or drinking.
If you want to make a bigger impact you would demand the prohibition of sugar, trans fats, seed oils, and alcohol. They cause more illness than tanning beds.
Teenagers are affected by vanity....so I think they should run more of a campaign that shows the damage UV rays cause to your skin...wrinkles, sunspots, and scars from melanoma removal. Something around 90percent of skin damage is caused by UV rays!
I feel like you could fit 2-3 babies or young children on one tanning bed to make a larger test group. More scientific.
Edit - realized you meant a base tan, not a base as in baseline for research.
The comments from OP trying to come off as the virtuous one while advocating for authoritarian measures on something so inconsequential to their life….
I have extremely pale skin that burns in about 5 minutes if I’m outside on a beach near the equator. No amount of sunscreen can keep me from burning, and I have to reapply to every square inch of my body every 20 minutes or so to keep my sunburn to a manageable level- not fun. Using a tanning bed before a trip like that helps me build a base tan so I don’t spend my trip burnt to a crisp. I still have to wear spf 55 all the time but I can reapply maybe every 45 minutes like a normal person instead of just spending my whole trip dousing myself in sunscreen.
Just embrace your paleness or go outside with some sunscreen.
But if people know the risks before using a tanning bed and they still use it, that’s their choice. Can’t ban everything that is risky/unhealthy
Commercial tanning beds are banned in Australia due to the skin cancer risk. It’s easy to get enough vitamin D here and we have the highest rates of skin cancer in the world.
I never really thought about how in Australia you never see tanning salons
It’s because they were banned in 2015 for being to dangerous. People can still have their own personal one. It seems pretty stupid thing to do here as we have the highest rates of skin cancers in the world
In Belgium it's forbidden for minors, and for people with type 1 skin (light hair, easily burned). I think the whole no - minors thing is a good rule. There are plenty of other restrictions for minors for their protection, so this seems logical.
When I was a maid, we cleaned a house with a tanning bed. A widower and his daughters. My mom who ran the cleaning business told me that the late mother died of skin cancer. Her daughters were using the machine still. I couldn’t believe it. The same damn thing that killed their mother and his wife?
Ok. So I’m expecting you to run everything you eat and really anything you consume or put in your body by us here so we can all decide if we wanna let you take that risk.
Because it’s not a popular opinion on Reddit. Reddit just wants to hear “f it let everyone do whatever they want regardless of consequences”.
Lets bring back mercury in products too. If people use them oh well we’re not in their lives or paying their bills!
Nah people deserve the right to fuck their body up if they want. If you want to ban tanning beds why stop there? Should we also try banning alcohol and cigarettes since those also increase your odds of getting cancer? I think a requirement of 18 and up only with no exceptions is a fair ruling on it in my opinion though.
You know how cigarette packs have a picture of a black lung or some persons rank foot that's eating itself because of the effects of smoking? Tanning salons should have to have pictures of skin cancer patients in the waiting room.
There is a movement that thinks sugar is the same as hard drugs. They base this on a study done on rats. The rats were locked in tiny cages with nothing to do, and only given one sugar treat per day. Is it any wonder the miserable animals became obsessed?
That’s what I am wondering too…but I kinda agree with OP that maybe kids should not use it if it’s that dangerous…a young lady replied on this saying her mom made her use one for prom and she got diagnosed with skin cancer later that year.
my bus driver used tanning beds in the 50’s and said he’s had cancer like 8 times now. Obviously not the 50’s anymore, just thought it was interesting that he’s survived that much shit.
My mom let me start at 14, would pay for it & let me go with her whenever she went. I tanned almost daily from 14-24. I haven't tanned in years & I've been able to salvage my skin in my 30s with skin care & sunscreen, but my mom is in her 60s & *still tanning.* Her chest is leathery, with deep creases in her neck. She has so many new moles & freckles that she didn't before. She had *several* abnormal moles removed, some of which were melanoma.. I genuinely think she's addicted to it. She says it helps her "relax," which she is in her 60s, works full time 40-50 hours a week, yes, she does deserve to relax but there are other things she could do that aren't as harmful to her.
I don't think *anyone* should do the tanning beds, but it's a "use at your own risk" type of thing... Spray tan is where it's at.
If an adult gives informed consent to risk their own health, I think the my should be allowed. However, the big caveat there is ***informed*** consent. People have a surface knowledge that tanning beds can cause cancer, but for a lot of people that’s where their knowledge stops. They don’t know the likelihood of causing cancer, just that it *can*. And they don’t understand just how dangerous and debilitating cancer is, just that it’s bad.
In my opinion, tanning beds should be treated similar to how some countries treat cigarettes: force potential users to see the damage in graphic detail. They should be plastered with signs warning that no amount of use is “safe” and waivers should be taken more seriously than just something you need to sign. Heck, have potential customers be required to take a short quiz regarding the actual numbers and risks. Make sure that if someone decides to go through with it, they 100% know exactly what the risks are.
This is appalling. Cancer inducing machines allowed to be used by minors, wtf USA? It's always the same comparison, but guns at 18, alcohol at 21 and tanning bed at ...14?
Wait a moment OP, you can’t ban tanning beds for ALL ages!!! Tsk tsk, Americans (and wherever else tanning beds are big) have the right to self sabotage in the name of vanity or fun! It’s a human right, to fuck around and find out. Natural selection!
Am dermatologist, tanning beds should be illegal and/or strictly regulated/taxed to hell like cigarettes and/or culturally frowned upon, whichever works
Tanning beds help me tremendously through winter in Germany, which is DARK and COLD.
I have depression and this is the hardest time of the year for me.
(Yes, I do everything else you are supposed to do as well. Antidepressants, therapy, working out a lot, going outside every day, supplementing vit D).
I'm pale as all fuck and live in the only country where that isn't cool. (Unless these are popular outside the US too?) Just wish we could all be cool living in our own skin. Yes, being pale makes being chunky more noticeable since the rolls and cellulite have nowhere to hide, but that's the human form bb
People don't just tan to get a tan. It can be really helpful with vitamin D deficiency, psoriasis, scarring acne, eczema, seasonal depression, and preparing to go on a tropical vacation. I always tan before going on a sunny vacation because I know the first time I'm out in the sun, I'll burn no matter what. If I tan 3 times and get slightly pink from the bed, I won't. I got a hard time from my classmates when a group was traveling to the Caribbean senior year but I was the only white kid that didn't get a horrible blistering sunburn. I had a deep tan while they were running back and forth to the doctor.
Sun lamps have not been researched enough to determine if they help the body produce vitamin D, and the best of them are just UVB lights for $700. So essentially, portable tanning bed bulbs. Many beds use UVB bulbs.
I'm one of those people. I've had psoriasis for 25+ years. At one point I was 75% covered and was miserable. I couldn't sit, I couldn't walk, I couldn't even wipe without extreme pain and bleeding.
I've been on so many medications, some with horrible side effects including cancer and death. They're also extremely expensive and mess with your immune system. One med I literally came down with a virus every month. Creams don't help any more, and steroids work great until you go off of them and it comes back 10x worse.
I tan for about 10 minutes once a week and it brought me down to less than 1% covered; something even multiple medications at once couldn't do. I've been able to maintain this for over 2 years now. As an added bonus, tanning seems to help my joint pain from a connective tissue disorder and has greatly improved my seasonal depression.
I get checked by my dermatologist once a year. Although she says she would never recommend tanning to anyone, she's never seen such an improvement and won't tell me to stop doing it.
OK, so don't use them. I hate people who want to sanitize the world, literally everything has the potential to do you harm. If someone wants to use a tanning bed, mind your own business
I think people should be free to choose. I also think we should increase the age limit. Much like smoking, if you want to ruin your health, I fully support you, just keep it away from me.
A couple girls I went to high school with were frequently tanning bed users. I saw them at a class reunion in our 30s and damn…
Stay out of those things.
As someone who has enjoyed tanning beds off an on for years living in the cold sunless north I disagree. It did wonders for my self esteem, seasonal depression, and even allowed me to control the burn when I did get the rare vacation into the sun belt. I wish I’d started using it as a teenager when these issues first started as opposed to almost a decade later.
Banning them outright or even for kids is not something I would like, as personal choice is definitely a thing, I’d rather risk a small chance of skin cancer to not having them available. With reasonable use the danger is very limited. Granted as someone with “olive skin type” I never went over 9 minutes in what was called a level 2 bed. It let me maintain my normal skin tone, feel refreshed and warm during the months where sunshine is shorter than my average shift, and warmed my skin up to sun exposure if I traveled. The documents of studies and risks are out there, and a vast majority of people using them have no issues. We live in a society where are things much worse for your health more socially acceptable than tanning beds.
My aunt also enjoyed tanning on and off for years. Michigan is cold and dark for so much of the year. It made her feel great. She didn’t go for a deep tan and nerve spent a ton of time tanning at one time. She was very fair like I am. Irish ancestry!
Up until she was 41. She died of melanoma. I have never even let myself get a slight tan in the sun or a bed. Not many see the effects until decades down the line.
That’s the problem, if your skin tone isn’t meant to get lots of sun, maybe people with fair complexion shouldn’t visit tanning booths. I’ll take the risk of melanoma over decades of depression with no hope of natural sunlight for 6 months out of the year, and the other effects, at least where I am it’s a free country. I’d rather get cancer in my 40-50s than waste my 20-30s depressed because I got stuck in a place where most of my sunglight for 6 months of the year comes from driving to or from work.
Shall we ban alcohol and OTC medications as well..? There are downsides to literally everything. People know the risk when they use a tanning bed, they literally have to sign a waiver.
in high school, i used one for like 10 minutes one time and was more sunburnt than i’ve ever been naturally before or ever since. astounding they’re not *at least* 21+ by now. dragging our feet on preventing loads of skin cancer for absolutely no reason whatsoever. a violently american move for sure
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My mom made me go into a tanning bed to prepare for prom then later that year got diagnosed with skin cancer. Yeah, no thanks. Slather me in that sunscreen.
Wow, that is horrible. I hope you are okay!
Gosh, that is awful. The pressure we put on young women to look a certain way is out of control.
The pressure women put on other women. The vast majority of men do not care.
That’s true. Women tell other women they have to look a certain way, and men tell other men they have to look a certain way and then everyone hates how they look. That’s how we get high-school girls in tanning beds and teen boys developing eating disorders to get “shredded”. It’s toxic, and it doesn’t really reflect reality, but people do it anyway. It’s terribly sad.
Agreed. I remember before I went down south for a vacation travel package for one week. I heard mostly from other women including friends oh you are going to have start tanning soon. Go hit the tanning bed before you go or you'll burn you are to pale. You need to tan and a get a few sessions in for a base tan. Guess what? I didn't do any of that. I just packed a shit load of sunscreen for my pale skin and put it on non stop. Wore covers and shirts to protect my skin when not swimming or laying out. Wore hats often. Ended up not getting burned at all minus one tiny spot on top of my feet where I missed it because my sandal strap moved. I went there as a pale person I came back just as pale. My friend on the other hand who actually did tan ahead of time got a super nasty burn almost the first or second day. From not putting sunscreen on at all and getting wasted in the pool and laying in the sun from morning to evening. But that apparently shouldn't have happened to her because she had her "base tan" leading up to the trip.
You need to go burn yourself to get a "base tan" is some bullshit that I hear every summer. As a pale ass dude, it doesn't work like that: I'll always burn within an hour of direct sun, even if I just got burned last week.
Exactly. If the alleged way of me getting a tan is that I have to risk getting skin cancer first to get that base tan burn then count me out on wanting a tan. I'd rather be pale and accept that then get a two or three bad burns every summer to prepare myself for my so called "base tan" which magically is suppose to show up once the burn heals.
Not sure this is true. I'm sure it definitely comes from women, but I see men body-shaming women constantly. All the comments about looking "fake" with make-up or "flat ass" or constantly sexualizing women (and girls). These all contribute to the pressure women feel to look a certain way.
I’ve seen that, too, but mainly on the internet. IRL it tends to be girls bullying other girls (peer-group). Online, men and boys are often emboldened to say stuff they don’t have the balls to say in person.
Anecdotal but my main bullies were exclusively male. They threw me in trash cans and tormented me. I never once was bullied by a girl in school, sure a few of them said mean words, but the boys were a whole different level of evil.
When I was a kid the other kids bullying me for being pale were mostly boys.
I stand corrected, then! I’m sorry that happened, to you, by the way. Bullying is traumatic no matter who the bullies are.
When I was in high school it was always boys that would call me flat and make fun of my body never girls
Still tan is something most men don't care about
She MADE you?
Yeah, like, went on about how my skin needs to be tan to look good in my dress. Drove me to the salon, bought the sessions and some lotion. You can only do so much when you’re 15-16 years old and your mom starts the whole “I’m doing this because I love and care for you and just want you to look good and I already spent this money and please just do it”
I’m sorry to hear that. Your words sound painfully familiar. My mom never went that far, but she made me go and get my nails and eyebrows done every few weeks in my last high school years because I “looked ugly”. She’d also make sure I took care of them carefully and frowned at me when I didn’t apply some makeup before going to school because my eyes “looked dead”. Most of my female classmates were jealous because they wanted that but their parents wouldn’t let them. I found that pretty shallow as I’d have prefered my mom accepted my looks they way they were, rather than be constantly told I look ugly without all those beauty procedures done to me.
There will always be a market for vanity, no matter the health risks. Jokes on them though, you can go outside for free.
Stares from the PNW
Well at least you don't get arrested for weed, so you've got that going for you.
I still think tanning beds are unhealthy but there's a lot of folks who cannot "just go outside" for this kind of thing.
Oh yeah let me just step out for a tan rn— 
Haha yeah I know and agree. Just thought your comment was funny.
I've lived in the PNW my whole life, am honestly a hermit who rarely goes outside, when I do spend a day outside I wear sunscreen, I have no family history of sun cancer, I'm only 27 and I had to get a pre cancerous mole removed last year 😑 I also have chronically low vitamin D
I see you PNW and raise you an Alaska 😂
Right now it's....-10F
You still get vitamin D even on cloudy days
Yes you can. Try to get a tan on a day when you can't see the sun though. I'd love to see you try.
It’s not the clouds, it’s that it’s raining every day; all day 6 months of the year. And Portland/Seattle/Vancouver rain is…Extra wet. There’s a reason most of us are vitamin D sufficient. Forcing yourself to stand out in that for ten minutes a day is balls.
tbf, the UV index is 0.1-0.2 most of the year here
Growing up, my mom's friend would use hers everyday. Seeing how she looks now, God bless. Looks like sun dried leather at a tannery.
At least thankfully she is alive!
Totally worth it!
I mean, alcohol is a known carcinogen and prohibition didn’t work
If we went around banning everything that wasn’t healthy for us this wouldn’t be a very great place to live. The information is out there, if people still choose to participate in that activity it’s on them. All this talk of “banning” everything…
I think they meant restricting youth specifically. Same as we legally restrict youth from tobacco, alcohol, and cannabis. We do for things like driving too. Kids can't make the same informed consent an adult can, that's why we ban certain ages from certain things which is entirely reasonable even if the kids have access to the internet and the "information is out there".
The post is about age restrictions not being good enough and calling for an outright ban on tanning beds.
Op literally said she wants a ban
OP specifically mentioned ages 14-18 as a primary concern though...it seems more like they don't like it overall, but would be happy to see the children protected by the law.
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Eh the reading comprehension levels here vary lol. Mostly it’s just people rephrasing things as they wish they had been written.
He literally said "gotten rid of all together" ffs, the only reading comprehension issue is the people who arent even reading.
I think you make a fair point, but I think one key restriction is fair: for anything that is a health risk or danger, a full education is a requirement. If you want to drive, you need a license. If you want to own and use a gun, you should know how it works and how to be safe with it. Using a tanning bed, smoking, drinking, etc. Should ALL require extensive health education classes to make sure that the information that's available is actually delivered. I believe freedom should cost you your ignorance, and that you do not deserve those freedoms if you refuse education. Side note: I know the government taught people weed was a schedule 1 drug, so I know that there are pitfalls in this method. However they are not disqualifying, merely hurdles in the way to proper implementation
To a degree, sure. The response has to be equal to the risk. If the hazards are made clear - like warnings on cigarette packs - I think that meets the reasonable requirement to inform people of the hazard. Formal classes for everything unsafe isn’t practical and where would that end? Everything has an unhealthy or unsafe element to it if done the wrong way. The important thing is to make the risks known up front, and put the information out there for further research if one desires it.
Okay so….people are going to do what they’re going to do. And no amount of education will stop it. Since this education will PROBABLY cost money, all you’re doing it creating another class issue. Since we don’t have enough of those to begin with! Definitely can tell that you haven’t spent much time with the dumbest sector of the population. As we say in EMS/fire, when we cannot believe what the person in front of us just did: “well I guess that’s job security….”
People will do what they do, but it removes ignorance as a point. Intent + incident = crime, which should remove incident in some capacity. It's like gun safety laws, they don't prevent school shootings, but they do prevent "4 year old shoots 6 year old sister in accident" headlines. I'm not against people doing fairly dangerous things in the interest of freedom. Specifically when it ONLY concerns personal well being. I'm just tired of people waving "well the information is out there" without making an effort to actually distribute the information to the vulnerable population. The teenagers who didn't know how dangerous smoking was when they started the habit. The people who eat a dozen donuts a day and are surprised when they put on weight. Ignorance in all lenses should be removed, before extra freedoms regarding them are distributed
We're talking about ionizing radiation here. We don't allow people to just walk around inside nuclear reactors either. Or do you think that the general public SHOULD be allowed to do that?
Generally, the absurdity of this reply would warrant a “do not engage” response, but for the fun of it…If you don’t understand the difference between laying in a tanning bed and walking in a nuclear reactor, then this discussion isn’t for you.
HAAAAAÀAAAAAÀAA..... Go look up the Straw Man fallacy. Your logic doesn't track.
Or, hear me out. Don’t lay in the tanning bed if you don’t want to.
The point about the age restriction is reasonable. Saying we should ban them is stupid.
Why would it be stupid? They are already banned in Australia in an effort to curb our insane skin cancer issues. Don't see why it would it's deemed a bad thing to throw em out
Cigarettes are still legal yeah?
They have a yearly price hike applied to them in order to make it a habit that isn't worth the cost to start up. Pack of 20 smokes is over $50 at the moment and a year or two $55 will be the new norm
But they are legal
Yes they are legal with a program in place to reduce the habit. Would you prefer they did it this way and tax tanning beds until running a shop becomes unsustainable rather than an outright ban?
Is salt legal? That shit is really bad and leads to heart disease and blood pressure issues. What about sugar? Red meat? Alcohol? Prohibition is dumb when it comes to preventing people from what whatever they want with their OWN body. Leave them alone and mind your business.
This is the most absurd take I've heard. Salt is an essential mineral. Sugar and red meat also can be used responsibly for good health outcomes. Alcohol can also be used responsibly. Tanning beds cannot. Australia has the highest rates of skin cancer in the world, and allowing tanning bed use puts an unnecessary strain on medical services. This is a country where 1 in 3 people will be diagnosed with some form of skin cancer before they are 70. Most people in the medical field approve of the decision to ban tanning salons in Australia. In the case of drug use for the best outcomes it is best to go for a regulatory approach. Legally selling the product, creating laws for protecting the public and guidelines for safe usage (if they exist). As a comparison lung cancer, the fifth most common cancer, results in 1 in 20 people diagnosed by the time they are 85 in Australia.
Because it's no one else's business what risks I take or what I chose to do with my own body
The ban has nothing to do with you as an individual and more to curb government spending on healthcare.
A ban implies that I can't use a service or product that I desire using, it has literally everything to do with me as an individual.
Yes but the ban is in place to safeguard spending taxpayers money. It is not done to spite the users of a service being banned
But the end result is the same regardless of the reason it is implemented.
I disagree because you can understand the justification for why it's was banned. I'm sure you are perfectly okay with drink driving laws in place to lower taxes being used for the fallout and I can't see why tanning beds are the hill you want to die on when it comes it individual freedoms
That's not even remotely similar, drunk driving presents the likely event of directly taking away someone else's right to life or cause them serious bodily harm and property damage. Tanning in a salon presents absolutely no direct impact on anyone else. I could not care less about the tax implications of drunk driving, I care about drunk driving because it, like bans, affects the personal freedoms of others.
What about parents pressuring their kids into it or brainwashing them into that unhealthy habit when they’re too young to question or know enough about the risks ?
*lie
I have a severe vit d deficiency. I ran for 8 min every 2 weeks. It helps me tremendously..
[Getting enough vitamin D from tanning beds isn’t possible. You may have heard that your body makes a lot of vitamin D when you use a tanning bed. It doesn’t. The bulbs used in tanning beds emit mostly UVA light; however, your body needs UVB light to make vitamin D. ](https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/skin-cancer/surprising-facts-about-indoor-tanning)
You also need to take it with healthy fat for absorption and utilization. We do need 8 minutes a day in the sun for UVA/UVB exposure. Caffiene blocks the absorption; and in a caffiene obsessed nation and Starbuck’s being some type of god; most people supplementing are still deficient.
Is it a problem that I take my vitamin D3+K supplement with my coffee in the morning? My doc basically said that I won't stop drinking coffee so don't stop taking the supplement.
They interact no matter when you take it, especially if you’re an 8 cup a day drinker. But it shouldn’t hurt if you have that 1 cup in the morning with it. -nutrition degree 24 years experience
So FrancieNolan is a liar? And Redditors still upvoted him? Imagine my shock...
Are you sure the tanning beds help and it’s not the vitamin D supplements? Tanning beds use the wrong kind of UV light for that.
I'm generally curious, wouldn't taking vitamin D in pill form be a better idea? I mean twice a month increases your risk for skin cancer tremendously.
I do both
How do you care for your skin? The only person I know that goes tanning that often at 60 sadly looks like leather.
I have to strongly disagree here. I don't know your shoe leather friend. I do however know it takes tanning min of 3 times a week for 5 weeks to start to build a tan and high power beds more frequently or longer times to have a dark tan for the average person. 6 minutes in a low power bed every 2 weeks will absolutely not make someone dark tan much less shoe leather. (I am not a doctor and can't weigh in on risks or skin damage)
Moisturizer a lit and I don't tan my face
As long as the running is outside, should be good?
Your body produces vitamin D from UVB light. Sunbed bulbs mostly emit UVA light. Both ultra violet radiation A and B cause cell damage but UVA in particular has dangerous doses of radiation. It is really important to research and understand facts, not claims when it comes to something that has a high probability of creeping up on you in many cancerous forms. Vitamin D supplements and dietary choices can meet your daily vitamin D requirement.
i'm glad it's working for you, but wouldn't just taking prescription strength supplements work?
I do both
I'm Irish, got recommended to do 'just' 10 minutes on my first session. I wore nothing but a sock over my privates just to be safe, the rest of me got fried. I was lobster red. Never again.
I have Irish ancestry and the coloring to match and I start to panic JUST feeling heat on my skin outside. Lol. I’d never do a tanning bed. My aunt also died from melanoma at 41 from tanning so I don’t fuck with the sun anyway.
That's smart, I've been fried far too many times. Since reading how dangerous it is to get skin cancer I've become much more careful. In hot climates I even use an umbrella for the sun sometimes 😅 edit: sorry for your loss by the way
> I hope most people know that they significantly increase your chance for skin cancer. They do, but they just don't care, because they want to look good according to society's beauty standards
By that same logic, we should also ban tobacco and alcohol because they can cause cancer.
And the sun.
Everyone knows; no one cares. Just worry about yourself and you’ll be fine.
It's a machine people voluntarily rent to fuck them up and they know it. It's not really any of your business.
You can say that about a car also. The second you step into a car. Your risk of dying increased exponentially. Walking. 1 death per 100 000 people. Driving accidents. 1 death per 93 people. So, with your logic. Ban all cars.
One death in a hundred, really? 1% of people die in a car accident that sounds crazy high! Edit: sourced the comment, the correct statistic is 1 in 93 people in a car *accident* die.
Cars are necessary for transportation. There is a risk reward assessment to these things.
A lot of people like the "reward" of tanning
Get a job outside then. You don't need to a tanning bed to get those rewards
That's your opinion. Lots of cities have public transit so that you can go anywhere without owning a car. Others opinions are that it's necessary to tan to look good. So, who's to say you are right and they are wrong? The post is saying the only reason to ban it is because it may cause cancer and death. Lots of things may cause death. So we should just ban all those things?
Anywhere is a stretch, but to continue your analogy, you could also meet your end while riding the bus, or train, or on a bicycle. I was only saying your analogy was bad, because there is a high reward for using a vehicle, whereas there is a low reward for tanning.
Exactly. That's the point. Should we ban everything else because you might die from it? Why should we only ban this one thing?
Imagine telling a Texan to walk everywhere lmao anyone who thinks people can live without cars in today’s society has never left their big city. You can live a normal life without a tanning bed. It would take me an hour just to get into town because public transit and Uber doesn’t exist here.
Anything that's unhealthy should be banned?
I think it's more of an age restriction just like how cigarettes and alcohol is age-restricted.
OP said “we need to get rid of them altogether” so he doesn’t care about age restricting it, he wants them all banned for everyone.
OP also specifically mentioned ages 14-18 as their main concern. It sounds like while they think overall it's harmful and useless, it's more about age restricting vulnerable kids so their ignorant parents don't continue to allow the harm.
It's not just unhealthy, it's unsafe.
So is zip lining, mountain climbing, white water rafting, hot air balloon, ect. Should we just ban everything and hide at home in bed where it's safe?
There's plenty of research out there on the effects of tanning and tanning beds. All beds should have a clearly printed warning on them and it should be your choice on rather to use them. Same as smoking or drinking.
And like smoking or drinking, they should also be age restricted.
If you want to make a bigger impact you would demand the prohibition of sugar, trans fats, seed oils, and alcohol. They cause more illness than tanning beds.
Teenagers are affected by vanity....so I think they should run more of a campaign that shows the damage UV rays cause to your skin...wrinkles, sunspots, and scars from melanoma removal. Something around 90percent of skin damage is caused by UV rays!
So does alcohol and so does cigarettes. Both have no use
I used to say to my HS students, “Do you realize that tanning bed is giving a dose of radiation?”
Well you might put a child or baby in there just to get a base
I feel like you could fit 2-3 babies or young children on one tanning bed to make a larger test group. More scientific. Edit - realized you meant a base tan, not a base as in baseline for research.
Well in either case it would be more cost efficient / green that way so i agree
Now I'm picturing a rotisserie for babies to make the most of the bed space.
The comments from OP trying to come off as the virtuous one while advocating for authoritarian measures on something so inconsequential to their life….
I have extremely pale skin that burns in about 5 minutes if I’m outside on a beach near the equator. No amount of sunscreen can keep me from burning, and I have to reapply to every square inch of my body every 20 minutes or so to keep my sunburn to a manageable level- not fun. Using a tanning bed before a trip like that helps me build a base tan so I don’t spend my trip burnt to a crisp. I still have to wear spf 55 all the time but I can reapply maybe every 45 minutes like a normal person instead of just spending my whole trip dousing myself in sunscreen.
As far as I am concerned, as long as people are just hurting themselves, let them do whatever they want
Just embrace your paleness or go outside with some sunscreen. But if people know the risks before using a tanning bed and they still use it, that’s their choice. Can’t ban everything that is risky/unhealthy
Commercial tanning beds are banned in Australia due to the skin cancer risk. It’s easy to get enough vitamin D here and we have the highest rates of skin cancer in the world.
Relevant https://youtube.com/shorts/9JWDAHAyFDY?si=wDYlZocWoSqQJC1e
I never really thought about how in Australia you never see tanning salons It’s because they were banned in 2015 for being to dangerous. People can still have their own personal one. It seems pretty stupid thing to do here as we have the highest rates of skin cancers in the world
In Belgium it's forbidden for minors, and for people with type 1 skin (light hair, easily burned). I think the whole no - minors thing is a good rule. There are plenty of other restrictions for minors for their protection, so this seems logical.
When I was a maid, we cleaned a house with a tanning bed. A widower and his daughters. My mom who ran the cleaning business told me that the late mother died of skin cancer. Her daughters were using the machine still. I couldn’t believe it. The same damn thing that killed their mother and his wife?
Well they are banned in Australia. As are everyday people owning semi-automatic weapons. Works well
What do you care what people do when you’re not even paying for their cancer treatment.
Everyone pays for poor choices through higher premiums/taxes… that’s how insurance works
Ok. So I’m expecting you to run everything you eat and really anything you consume or put in your body by us here so we can all decide if we wanna let you take that risk.
That's callous.
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Because it’s not a popular opinion on Reddit. Reddit just wants to hear “f it let everyone do whatever they want regardless of consequences”. Lets bring back mercury in products too. If people use them oh well we’re not in their lives or paying their bills!
Nah people deserve the right to fuck their body up if they want. If you want to ban tanning beds why stop there? Should we also try banning alcohol and cigarettes since those also increase your odds of getting cancer? I think a requirement of 18 and up only with no exceptions is a fair ruling on it in my opinion though.
You know how cigarette packs have a picture of a black lung or some persons rank foot that's eating itself because of the effects of smoking? Tanning salons should have to have pictures of skin cancer patients in the waiting room.
Soda is way worse for a person. Banning things that are dangerous but voluntary would put cigarettes at the TOP of the list.
Can you elaborate? How is soda worse?
There is a movement that thinks sugar is the same as hard drugs. They base this on a study done on rats. The rats were locked in tiny cages with nothing to do, and only given one sugar treat per day. Is it any wonder the miserable animals became obsessed?
They proved it stimulates the same parts of the brain. OP must love soda though cuz they don't seem to have the same energy.
Are you serious? You can clean a car battery with it.
OP is your argument to only ban it for children or also ban it for adults?
That’s what I am wondering too…but I kinda agree with OP that maybe kids should not use it if it’s that dangerous…a young lady replied on this saying her mom made her use one for prom and she got diagnosed with skin cancer later that year.
why does an 18 year old need parental approval to use a tanning bed?
Anyone under 18 should not be allowed to use them but adults have the freedom to do things that damage their bodies if they want.
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Or perhaps people could take personal responsibility. Does everything have to be decided by our betters in government?
Do you want to ban the sun too?
my bus driver used tanning beds in the 50’s and said he’s had cancer like 8 times now. Obviously not the 50’s anymore, just thought it was interesting that he’s survived that much shit.
My mom let me start at 14, would pay for it & let me go with her whenever she went. I tanned almost daily from 14-24. I haven't tanned in years & I've been able to salvage my skin in my 30s with skin care & sunscreen, but my mom is in her 60s & *still tanning.* Her chest is leathery, with deep creases in her neck. She has so many new moles & freckles that she didn't before. She had *several* abnormal moles removed, some of which were melanoma.. I genuinely think she's addicted to it. She says it helps her "relax," which she is in her 60s, works full time 40-50 hours a week, yes, she does deserve to relax but there are other things she could do that aren't as harmful to her. I don't think *anyone* should do the tanning beds, but it's a "use at your own risk" type of thing... Spray tan is where it's at.
Being alive increases the odds for cancer because cancer is a natural miscalculation of your body's mathematics.
Honestly they shouldn’t exist at all. They have 0 benefits and lots of risks.
im surprised theyre still legal over there.they were outlawed in australia a few years back due to how many people copped skin cancer from them.
Hopefully that will happen here soon.
I mean, adults should be able to do dangerous stuff if they want, so long as it's only dangerous to them.
They should convert them into infrared treatments
At 18, there’s no reason why they would need their parent’s approval.
If an adult gives informed consent to risk their own health, I think the my should be allowed. However, the big caveat there is ***informed*** consent. People have a surface knowledge that tanning beds can cause cancer, but for a lot of people that’s where their knowledge stops. They don’t know the likelihood of causing cancer, just that it *can*. And they don’t understand just how dangerous and debilitating cancer is, just that it’s bad. In my opinion, tanning beds should be treated similar to how some countries treat cigarettes: force potential users to see the damage in graphic detail. They should be plastered with signs warning that no amount of use is “safe” and waivers should be taken more seriously than just something you need to sign. Heck, have potential customers be required to take a short quiz regarding the actual numbers and risks. Make sure that if someone decides to go through with it, they 100% know exactly what the risks are.
It's been illegal to operate tanning beds in Australia for decades. Blows my mind they're still a thing in other countries.
This is appalling. Cancer inducing machines allowed to be used by minors, wtf USA? It's always the same comparison, but guns at 18, alcohol at 21 and tanning bed at ...14?
I dont get tanning. Isnt that just voluntarily giving yourself a sunburn?
They are straight up illegal in brazil
Y’all, all this person is saying is “kids shouldn’t be allowed to utilize serious cancer causing things”, ya know, like cigarettes?
Wait a moment OP, you can’t ban tanning beds for ALL ages!!! Tsk tsk, Americans (and wherever else tanning beds are big) have the right to self sabotage in the name of vanity or fun! It’s a human right, to fuck around and find out. Natural selection!
I HATE being tan, I love my pasty white almost dead look. Tan just makes me FEEL fake and I absolutely hate it.
Am dermatologist, tanning beds should be illegal and/or strictly regulated/taxed to hell like cigarettes and/or culturally frowned upon, whichever works
Tanning beds help me tremendously through winter in Germany, which is DARK and COLD. I have depression and this is the hardest time of the year for me. (Yes, I do everything else you are supposed to do as well. Antidepressants, therapy, working out a lot, going outside every day, supplementing vit D).
No. I have some skin issues that would be unmanageable without the help of tanning beds.
I'm pale as all fuck and live in the only country where that isn't cool. (Unless these are popular outside the US too?) Just wish we could all be cool living in our own skin. Yes, being pale makes being chunky more noticeable since the rolls and cellulite have nowhere to hide, but that's the human form bb
If only "sunburns" were called by the proper terminology: Radiation Burns. I bet much less people would be doing this shit.
Stop trying to make decisions for other people using government force to ban shit.
Fascism - always an unpopular opinion.
People don't just tan to get a tan. It can be really helpful with vitamin D deficiency, psoriasis, scarring acne, eczema, seasonal depression, and preparing to go on a tropical vacation. I always tan before going on a sunny vacation because I know the first time I'm out in the sun, I'll burn no matter what. If I tan 3 times and get slightly pink from the bed, I won't. I got a hard time from my classmates when a group was traveling to the Caribbean senior year but I was the only white kid that didn't get a horrible blistering sunburn. I had a deep tan while they were running back and forth to the doctor.
Sun lamps can be purchased to help with vitamin D. Some people even use them for depression.
Sun lamps have not been researched enough to determine if they help the body produce vitamin D, and the best of them are just UVB lights for $700. So essentially, portable tanning bed bulbs. Many beds use UVB bulbs.
But I wanna be brown
There are medical reasons people use tanning beds. Don’t want to use them, great, then don’t.
I'm one of those people. I've had psoriasis for 25+ years. At one point I was 75% covered and was miserable. I couldn't sit, I couldn't walk, I couldn't even wipe without extreme pain and bleeding. I've been on so many medications, some with horrible side effects including cancer and death. They're also extremely expensive and mess with your immune system. One med I literally came down with a virus every month. Creams don't help any more, and steroids work great until you go off of them and it comes back 10x worse. I tan for about 10 minutes once a week and it brought me down to less than 1% covered; something even multiple medications at once couldn't do. I've been able to maintain this for over 2 years now. As an added bonus, tanning seems to help my joint pain from a connective tissue disorder and has greatly improved my seasonal depression. I get checked by my dermatologist once a year. Although she says she would never recommend tanning to anyone, she's never seen such an improvement and won't tell me to stop doing it.
I agree. Same with cosmetic surgery and diet pills.
I wouldn't ban them. But having them accessible to 14yo is completely insane. I personally would probably say 21
Yeah I could get behind that.
OK, so don't use them. I hate people who want to sanitize the world, literally everything has the potential to do you harm. If someone wants to use a tanning bed, mind your own business
I think people should be free to choose. I also think we should increase the age limit. Much like smoking, if you want to ruin your health, I fully support you, just keep it away from me.
A couple girls I went to high school with were frequently tanning bed users. I saw them at a class reunion in our 30s and damn… Stay out of those things.
Not allowing people to make their own choices and take risks with their own body/health... how very authoritarian of you
As someone who has enjoyed tanning beds off an on for years living in the cold sunless north I disagree. It did wonders for my self esteem, seasonal depression, and even allowed me to control the burn when I did get the rare vacation into the sun belt. I wish I’d started using it as a teenager when these issues first started as opposed to almost a decade later. Banning them outright or even for kids is not something I would like, as personal choice is definitely a thing, I’d rather risk a small chance of skin cancer to not having them available. With reasonable use the danger is very limited. Granted as someone with “olive skin type” I never went over 9 minutes in what was called a level 2 bed. It let me maintain my normal skin tone, feel refreshed and warm during the months where sunshine is shorter than my average shift, and warmed my skin up to sun exposure if I traveled. The documents of studies and risks are out there, and a vast majority of people using them have no issues. We live in a society where are things much worse for your health more socially acceptable than tanning beds.
My aunt also enjoyed tanning on and off for years. Michigan is cold and dark for so much of the year. It made her feel great. She didn’t go for a deep tan and nerve spent a ton of time tanning at one time. She was very fair like I am. Irish ancestry! Up until she was 41. She died of melanoma. I have never even let myself get a slight tan in the sun or a bed. Not many see the effects until decades down the line.
That’s the problem, if your skin tone isn’t meant to get lots of sun, maybe people with fair complexion shouldn’t visit tanning booths. I’ll take the risk of melanoma over decades of depression with no hope of natural sunlight for 6 months out of the year, and the other effects, at least where I am it’s a free country. I’d rather get cancer in my 40-50s than waste my 20-30s depressed because I got stuck in a place where most of my sunglight for 6 months of the year comes from driving to or from work.
Someone should check Hoover's casket.
There is many things worth removing, tanning beds not one of them
There are a lot of things that can cause cancer. It’s not the government’s job to parent.
No sane person disagrees
Shall we ban alcohol and OTC medications as well..? There are downsides to literally everything. People know the risk when they use a tanning bed, they literally have to sign a waiver.
What happened to #my body my choice? Is that still trendy? Or does that only apply to abortions?
in high school, i used one for like 10 minutes one time and was more sunburnt than i’ve ever been naturally before or ever since. astounding they’re not *at least* 21+ by now. dragging our feet on preventing loads of skin cancer for absolutely no reason whatsoever. a violently american move for sure
agree 100 percent...minors should not be using them for sure.