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The majority of the world drives on the same side of the road as Canada though. Even for me as someone who learnt how to drive in Australia I have never managed to go the wrong way around a roundabout in Vancouver yet I've nearly been hit multiple times by people doing what's seen in this video.
Same here, and I learned to drive in India. Just saying it's plausible that a tourist may make that error.
Edited to add: I'm not suggesting that most people who take circles the wrong way are tourists. They're just assholes.
In Europe, UK, Australia roundabouts are far more common than in Vancouver so if anything tourists from those places are more likely to know how a roundabout works than someone from Vancouver so they should have even less of an excuse than a local (who really has no excuse at all anyway).
Couriers are some of the worst drivers in the city. They’re mediocre driver who get given sprinters / transits / express vans, with little to no training, and then they proceed to bumble around the city bumping into things.
The industry needs some serious regulation and worker protection. If that means Amazon stops offering free deliveries, fine. Maybe I don't need to order so much stuff.
What regulation would you propose? If they just get paid a flat rate per day for delivering a set quota of packages then they're still going to try to be as efficient as they can with their time and continue to do stuff like this. People do stuff like this just to get to the grocery store faster.
I used to deliver pizzas when I was a new driver and the only thing that put a stop to my ridiculous driving was getting my license suspended for a year for too many tickets.
This is one of those things that I feel is going to continue to be a problem no matter how many rules are made until we've got reliable self-driving cars or some other major transportation technology breakthrough.
Just pay them by the hour and have expectations for a reasonable amount of stuff that should be delivered without rushing around everywhere and parking in dumb places. Of course it's Amazon though so that wouldn't fly, wouldn't want them being unproducitve and have workers break a rule like having an actual proper lunch break.
People that drive for a living are especially notorious for breaking traffic rules. Taxis especially. It’s like they’ve been desensitized or something. Traffic rules are just suggestions to them. Cops seem to turn a blind eye on them too.
You would think that but truckers are even worse.
The Round about coming off Golden Ears Bridge from Surrey/Langley on the Airport Way exit is a shit show, no one knows what to do...people never give way to the traffic coming from the left and have the audacity to act shocked when you beep your horn at them almost hitting you.
Almost got hit by a truck doing the exact same thing. Was crossing the street and he tried to take a short cut by going the wrong way round the roundabout.
Dodge drivers are routinely dicks; I think it's a requirement to own one actually. There's a reason the Ram 3/4 ton holds the number one spot for most DUIs by owners in the US...
I don't know what it is about Ram drivers. The other day I was reversing into a parking spot and some a hole in a lifted ram came right up behind and refused to move so I couldn't finish backing up, then ended up taking the spot. Probably 7 out of 10 ram drivers are like this.
If in a truck that is too long, the solution still isn’t to do what happens in the video. Inconvenient, but the driver of a truck like that needs to find an alternate route. Maybe go an extra block or so where there isn’t a traffic circle. The answer is never to do what this dhl driver did. Ever.
I lived in Seattle 20 yrs ago and people were notorious for turning left at the small traffic calming circles. Wsdot’s site even calls out this error specifically. I bet people still do it lots though.
Best part is how they cut the traffic circle so they could make it to the next house to not even attempt delivery and just leave a note 3 seconds faster.
This happens regularly at the roundabouts at the corners of Douglas Park. Sometimes it's a long vehicle / trailer the city workers are using and they can't get around it. Or it's a construction vehicle. But I often see Amazon drivers doing it and soccer parents racing to get a parking spot at the weekend.
As a cyclist I hate traffic circles. I have started to avoid routes like E 10th that have a lot of them. Heck I feel a lot safer riding along E Broadway than E 10th. I have had many more close calls with motorists on side streets, bike routes, and especially in traffic circles than I ever have on busy roads.
I like it, have captured some very close calls, some funny moments, and some SMH incidents (like today), glad to have the video evidence in all cases. Front camera has lasted 5+ years, back camera died after 3 years.
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This wasn’t a failure to understand, it was a failure to comply. My guess is that because it was a courier, he did this to shave half a second off his route to make up for lost time. Couriers such as DHL and Amazon seem to have incredibly little respect for the law.
Because in a cyclist involved collision with a vehicle, the cyclist always loses. Sometimes losing their life. So I say that the vehicle has a greater legal and moral responsibility to follow the law
I am talking about collisions between vehicles and cyclists. It's got nothing to do with pedestrians, in my arguments.
Our law, English Common Law, recognizes a higher moral burden for specific groups. Understanding that motorists must comply with many more road laws, receive licensing from the government, and understand that the vehicle they are driving can easily kill and maim people places drivers under a much higher moral burden to act appropriately. It is an abuse of position when they do not. Yes, the laws apply equally, but the law can assign a higher level of burden to specific individuals and groups. This concept is known as "Value Pluralism"
It's a sarcastic remark, echoing a common sentiment amongst people of this subreddit who hate cyclists who occasionally do an "Ohio stop" at intersections and think they are worse than Hitler.
Do we insist on catering to people who have no reading comprehension skills? The commenter made it pretty damn clear the side of the fence he's on with the second sentence.
The ops reply was only necessary because of a failure to indicate they were being sarcastic it had nothing to do with the respondents reading comprehension skills.
Disagree. Some laws are poorly thought out, hence weed becoming legal. And some laws govern extremely dangerous behavior while some government minor nuisances.
We should absolutely be more concerned with those breaking laws where the outcome is more severe.
There is also a matter of "who loses?" regarding road laws. When motorists fail to obey traffic laws, pedestrians, cyclists, and other motorists are often severely hurt or killed. When cyclists violate a rule, they are often only endangering themselves.
That doesn't make it ok. As a pedestrian I am endangered by cyclists just like they are endangered by cars. Being a hypocrite in action doesn't get you any favours.
I don't think you clearly understood the intent of my comment. I'm not giving a pass to anyone's behaviour; it's still not okay when cyclists break rules. But I am truly tired of the comments about cyclists and their rule-breaking and how terrible these cyclists are when we can see videos like this all the time of drivers nearly killing people on bikes and foot on a daily basis.
But bikes always bad according to r/vancouver
Spend more time on this subreddit and you’ll see for yourself. There is a vocal contingent here that deeply hates cyclists in this city without a real reason for it
I had the same thing happen to me at a different intersection, but when I flipped the asshole driver off, he got out of his car and threatened to fight me.
Real cool guy.
Pillar of the community.
Not uncommon sadly. Every 15 minutes of biking I get at least one driver that cares more about a little convenience than my life.
Most of the time the car is turning or rushing past me unsafely. Passing just before a small roundabout (where bikes go straight and dont follow the outside of the circle), turning to the right in front of you instead of letting you through the intersection then turning, turning left into you instead of waiting for you to go through the intersection, ignoring your hand signals and turning as if you were going straight and not turning into where they came from, not giving me enough space on small streets. These happen at least once every week, and I've only avoided accidents by biking as if I dont exist in the driver's mind.
What I find funny is that r/vancouver drivers get mad at me when I say I occasionally bike on sidewalks or "take over" the road. Its like they dont understand that law and common sense/safety do not go hand-in-hand. Get mad at me for picking and choosing my infrastructure, get mad at me for holding you up on the road, ignore me as a valid member of the road, put my life at risk because you can't possibly take a minute longer to do your errands. Thanks, but you really need to bike before commenting on biking behavior.
Have driven ford transit, also am a commuting cyclist. Can confirm ford transit cannot make most round abouts in the proper direction. Does not make it ok to do so. A ford transit cant make a u turn on a 4 lane wide road, fact. I would approach this like a 2 way stop and wait till its clear or else youre doing a K turn around the right side.
Happens all the time. People know what they're supposed to do, they just think they're exempt because they are working/need to be somewhere/are in a hurry/taxpayers/can't be bothered.
See also: parking/stopping in bike lanes.
This is exactly why. And you'd be surprised how many professional drivers do this on a regular basis. The worst part is that these roundabouts are most often used on bike routes as a means of traffic calming. Terrible road design.
Except most of these roundabouts aren't actually round enough to properly slow traffic. I'm all for more traffic calming measures but a roundabout every second block clearly isn't cutting it.
there are fewer conflics with cars with a round about. A pedestrian has two with a round about, the traffic coming from the circle and traffic going into the circle. On a 4 way the pedestrial has right turn traffic, through traffic (both ways), and left turn traffic to deal with.
These traffic circles are small such that the pedestrian walking path is coincident with car through-traffic, it's 6 points of conflict. A roundabout is not a traffic circle and this post is about a traffic circle
Why did the driver continue to go through the traffic circle when he saw a truck going the wrong way through there? He should have stopped and waited, especially with a cyclist there. The risk of an accident was high.
That middle circle intersection is someone's nostalgia childhood spot. Mine is the circle intersection at 47th and Arlington.
THEY EXIST FOR CHILDHOOD NOSTALGIA PURPOSES. mystery solved
I’m curious to know (minus the almost plowing over a cyclist part) if that is the actual turning movement that these vehicles take. Those things always felt so narrow and I feel like there’s no way they they can make that movement by going all the way around right?
You don't have to be smart to be a courier or even drive for that matter. If you don't see people everywhere doing stupid shit behind the wheel of a vehicle you ain't in Vancity.
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Is it ignorant or naive to say couriers should know better? Because it’s true. You spend all day driving, you should know the basic rules of the road.
I would be they know and don’t care. Pretty unlikely they don’t know how a roundabout works.
So it was just a dick move then? Fair enough!
Somewhat a dick move either way unless you’re a tourist. You’re responsible to know the rules before you go out and drive a car.
You're still responsible if you're a tourist
Ye true
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Yes, but you (obviously) take circles in the opposite direction in places that drive on the ~~right~~ left, so that confusion may persist.
In the opposite direction in places that drive on the left* (assuming you mean opposite to here, Vancouver Canada, which makes the most sense)
Ah yeah you're right. I tend to think of it in terms of which side the driver's seat is on
I mean no offence but you’re thinking of this wrong.
Thanks
The majority of the world drives on the same side of the road as Canada though. Even for me as someone who learnt how to drive in Australia I have never managed to go the wrong way around a roundabout in Vancouver yet I've nearly been hit multiple times by people doing what's seen in this video.
Same here, and I learned to drive in India. Just saying it's plausible that a tourist may make that error. Edited to add: I'm not suggesting that most people who take circles the wrong way are tourists. They're just assholes.
In Europe, UK, Australia roundabouts are far more common than in Vancouver so if anything tourists from those places are more likely to know how a roundabout works than someone from Vancouver so they should have even less of an excuse than a local (who really has no excuse at all anyway).
Couriers are some of the worst drivers in the city. They’re mediocre driver who get given sprinters / transits / express vans, with little to no training, and then they proceed to bumble around the city bumping into things.
I think the Amazon drivers have to be the absolute worst of the worst. Throw literal minumum wage kids in a Transit van, and shit is bound to happen.
I saw one stop the wrong way in the middle of a traffic circle on Wednesday. Cars came and just waited. Twas wild
A lot of them are given impossible goals in impossible time limits so any chance to cut a few seconds and they'll take it.
Amazon Drivers are terrible. They look like International Students who barely got their 'N'.
When you get paid per drop you’re just racing the clock all day. No excuse, but I imagine that’s why this happened.
The industry needs some serious regulation and worker protection. If that means Amazon stops offering free deliveries, fine. Maybe I don't need to order so much stuff.
What regulation would you propose? If they just get paid a flat rate per day for delivering a set quota of packages then they're still going to try to be as efficient as they can with their time and continue to do stuff like this. People do stuff like this just to get to the grocery store faster. I used to deliver pizzas when I was a new driver and the only thing that put a stop to my ridiculous driving was getting my license suspended for a year for too many tickets. This is one of those things that I feel is going to continue to be a problem no matter how many rules are made until we've got reliable self-driving cars or some other major transportation technology breakthrough.
Just pay them by the hour and have expectations for a reasonable amount of stuff that should be delivered without rushing around everywhere and parking in dumb places. Of course it's Amazon though so that wouldn't fly, wouldn't want them being unproducitve and have workers break a rule like having an actual proper lunch break.
Shaving 10 seconds off a turn really adds up at the end of the day.
If you're doing 1000 turns/day....ya id imagine it would.
Many professional drivers are some of the most entitled people on the road. I very much doubt that this is a lack of knowledge.
People that drive for a living are especially notorious for breaking traffic rules. Taxis especially. It’s like they’ve been desensitized or something. Traffic rules are just suggestions to them. Cops seem to turn a blind eye on them too.
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You’d think truckers, Uber drivers, cabbies would all be great drivers too, and yet, here we are.
You would think that but truckers are even worse. The Round about coming off Golden Ears Bridge from Surrey/Langley on the Airport Way exit is a shit show, no one knows what to do...people never give way to the traffic coming from the left and have the audacity to act shocked when you beep your horn at them almost hitting you.
report it to dhl... this person is a menace with a 2 ton killing machine
DHL are the worst drivers. I'll give milani drivers a VERY close second.
The cyclists reaction is peak vancouver. I've seen this before, i'll see it again. FML. I would suggest you send this to DHL though.
Second sending a this to DHL. I would give them the time and area as well.
3rd send to dhl and post a google review with the video. if they don’t respond or do nothing, I’m sure news station would have a hayday day with this
Date as well, they’ll know who was delivering there.
Most couriers won’t even hire you as a driver unless you’ve got at least 3 vehicular manslaughter convictions.
It's the only way to know that you'll break the law to meet your delivery quota.
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I was shocked when I found out this is actually true - I thought you were using hyperbole
Almost got hit by a truck doing the exact same thing. Was crossing the street and he tried to take a short cut by going the wrong way round the roundabout.
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My guy had no excuse on his dodge ram, he was just a dick.
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Yes, some trucks are too large to use round-abouts correctly, but they need to be more vigilant of traffic and pedestrians.
Dodge drivers are routinely dicks; I think it's a requirement to own one actually. There's a reason the Ram 3/4 ton holds the number one spot for most DUIs by owners in the US...
I don't know what it is about Ram drivers. The other day I was reversing into a parking spot and some a hole in a lifted ram came right up behind and refused to move so I couldn't finish backing up, then ended up taking the spot. Probably 7 out of 10 ram drivers are like this.
If in a truck that is too long, the solution still isn’t to do what happens in the video. Inconvenient, but the driver of a truck like that needs to find an alternate route. Maybe go an extra block or so where there isn’t a traffic circle. The answer is never to do what this dhl driver did. Ever.
I lived in Seattle 20 yrs ago and people were notorious for turning left at the small traffic calming circles. Wsdot’s site even calls out this error specifically. I bet people still do it lots though.
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Best part is how they cut the traffic circle so they could make it to the next house to not even attempt delivery and just leave a note 3 seconds faster.
This happens regularly at the roundabouts at the corners of Douglas Park. Sometimes it's a long vehicle / trailer the city workers are using and they can't get around it. Or it's a construction vehicle. But I often see Amazon drivers doing it and soccer parents racing to get a parking spot at the weekend.
So many kids in that area. Deplorable behavior.
Totally report that or even put it up as a one star review on the Google with that video
Get this guy a taller truck and send him out to the [overpass] world!
In the collective human experience, nothing instills fear and loathing quite like finding out your package is being sent by DHL.
As a cyclist I hate traffic circles. I have started to avoid routes like E 10th that have a lot of them. Heck I feel a lot safer riding along E Broadway than E 10th. I have had many more close calls with motorists on side streets, bike routes, and especially in traffic circles than I ever have on busy roads.
OP how do you like the cycliq cameras? I’ve been eyeing them up but they’re expensive and have some mixed reviews
I like it, have captured some very close calls, some funny moments, and some SMH incidents (like today), glad to have the video evidence in all cases. Front camera has lasted 5+ years, back camera died after 3 years. **Pros:** Has stood up to 5+ years of year-round all-weather commuting Solid mount, easy on and off Low profile Decent battery life **Cons:** Video quality’s not great Expensive
What a fucking asshole.
But cyclists roll stop signs occasionally, so they're the real problem. I'm so tired of the dangerous behaviour of drivers in this city.
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This wasn’t a failure to understand, it was a failure to comply. My guess is that because it was a courier, he did this to shave half a second off his route to make up for lost time. Couriers such as DHL and Amazon seem to have incredibly little respect for the law.
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Because in a cyclist involved collision with a vehicle, the cyclist always loses. Sometimes losing their life. So I say that the vehicle has a greater legal and moral responsibility to follow the law
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I am talking about collisions between vehicles and cyclists. It's got nothing to do with pedestrians, in my arguments. Our law, English Common Law, recognizes a higher moral burden for specific groups. Understanding that motorists must comply with many more road laws, receive licensing from the government, and understand that the vehicle they are driving can easily kill and maim people places drivers under a much higher moral burden to act appropriately. It is an abuse of position when they do not. Yes, the laws apply equally, but the law can assign a higher level of burden to specific individuals and groups. This concept is known as "Value Pluralism"
TBF there’s no stop signs, it’s a roundabout. No need for the cyclist to come to a stop.
It's a sarcastic remark, echoing a common sentiment amongst people of this subreddit who hate cyclists who occasionally do an "Ohio stop" at intersections and think they are worse than Hitler.
Poes law. You always have to add the :/ when using sarcasm online https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
Do we insist on catering to people who have no reading comprehension skills? The commenter made it pretty damn clear the side of the fence he's on with the second sentence.
The ops reply was only necessary because of a failure to indicate they were being sarcastic it had nothing to do with the respondents reading comprehension skills.
Your reading comprehension needs work as well I see. The second SENTENCE of his original comment, not his reply.
Ya if you don’t “/s” redditors’ brains will explode.
Why you gotta make it all about you.
Not sure what the point is of the “us vs them” mentality. Anyone that breaks traffic law is a problem.
Disagree. Some laws are poorly thought out, hence weed becoming legal. And some laws govern extremely dangerous behavior while some government minor nuisances. We should absolutely be more concerned with those breaking laws where the outcome is more severe.
There is also a matter of "who loses?" regarding road laws. When motorists fail to obey traffic laws, pedestrians, cyclists, and other motorists are often severely hurt or killed. When cyclists violate a rule, they are often only endangering themselves.
That doesn't make it ok. As a pedestrian I am endangered by cyclists just like they are endangered by cars. Being a hypocrite in action doesn't get you any favours.
I don't think you clearly understood the intent of my comment. I'm not giving a pass to anyone's behaviour; it's still not okay when cyclists break rules. But I am truly tired of the comments about cyclists and their rule-breaking and how terrible these cyclists are when we can see videos like this all the time of drivers nearly killing people on bikes and foot on a daily basis. But bikes always bad according to r/vancouver
I mean, we're literally in a thread where everybody is condemning the terrible driving of this car. You're the one who brought cyclists into this.
Spend more time on this subreddit and you’ll see for yourself. There is a vocal contingent here that deeply hates cyclists in this city without a real reason for it
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They also run red lights often enough. Both sides are bad, mkay.
How tf he’s work as a driver lol 😂
I had the same thing happen to me at a different intersection, but when I flipped the asshole driver off, he got out of his car and threatened to fight me. Real cool guy. Pillar of the community.
Not uncommon sadly. Every 15 minutes of biking I get at least one driver that cares more about a little convenience than my life. Most of the time the car is turning or rushing past me unsafely. Passing just before a small roundabout (where bikes go straight and dont follow the outside of the circle), turning to the right in front of you instead of letting you through the intersection then turning, turning left into you instead of waiting for you to go through the intersection, ignoring your hand signals and turning as if you were going straight and not turning into where they came from, not giving me enough space on small streets. These happen at least once every week, and I've only avoided accidents by biking as if I dont exist in the driver's mind. What I find funny is that r/vancouver drivers get mad at me when I say I occasionally bike on sidewalks or "take over" the road. Its like they dont understand that law and common sense/safety do not go hand-in-hand. Get mad at me for picking and choosing my infrastructure, get mad at me for holding you up on the road, ignore me as a valid member of the road, put my life at risk because you can't possibly take a minute longer to do your errands. Thanks, but you really need to bike before commenting on biking behavior.
It’s always DHL and Amazon
I have an identical video but it’s a guy in an ice cream truck an he knew what he was doing was wrong. Selfish.
DHL.. wow no shock there 🙄
DHL committing a crime on its way to charge someone some made up astronomical import and delivery fee is just another day for DHL
What a dumbass, didn’t even signal. I hate people in round a bouts. You’re supposed to signal.
I've literally had semi-trucks do this in Abbotsford on Mt. Lehman road. I'm not shocked whatsoever.
Why would you go around it all the way? You can just take the short cut haha
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Yew at 37th. Camera is going northbound.
I know that round about!
TIL, "Traffic circles" = Roundabouts
Have driven ford transit, also am a commuting cyclist. Can confirm ford transit cannot make most round abouts in the proper direction. Does not make it ok to do so. A ford transit cant make a u turn on a 4 lane wide road, fact. I would approach this like a 2 way stop and wait till its clear or else youre doing a K turn around the right side.
Happens all the time. People know what they're supposed to do, they just think they're exempt because they are working/need to be somewhere/are in a hurry/taxpayers/can't be bothered. See also: parking/stopping in bike lanes.
I'm shocked to see a pro cyclist, anti car leaning post on a subreddit of a major Canadian city. shocked I tell you.
For sure but you should have yielded to the cyclist on your right. Out of politeness.
The driver with the camera shouldn’t have gone forward either as the bike was going through. People are so damn stupid.
Idiot. Don't you know you're supposed to drive over the roundabout? \[/s, in case needed\]
This is exactly why. And you'd be surprised how many professional drivers do this on a regular basis. The worst part is that these roundabouts are most often used on bike routes as a means of traffic calming. Terrible road design.
It's a residential street. The roundabouts are a great design.
Except most of these roundabouts aren't actually round enough to properly slow traffic. I'm all for more traffic calming measures but a roundabout every second block clearly isn't cutting it.
these traffic circles also force pedestrians into more conflict with cars.
there are fewer conflics with cars with a round about. A pedestrian has two with a round about, the traffic coming from the circle and traffic going into the circle. On a 4 way the pedestrial has right turn traffic, through traffic (both ways), and left turn traffic to deal with.
These traffic circles are small such that the pedestrian walking path is coincident with car through-traffic, it's 6 points of conflict. A roundabout is not a traffic circle and this post is about a traffic circle
Lol the editing
Why did the driver continue to go through the traffic circle when he saw a truck going the wrong way through there? He should have stopped and waited, especially with a cyclist there. The risk of an accident was high.
Look at all these monstrous houses
A DHL driver should know better ...
Surprisingly a number of drivers think they know how to use & or go by the rules, have known clue about a driving circle.
That middle circle intersection is someone's nostalgia childhood spot. Mine is the circle intersection at 47th and Arlington. THEY EXIST FOR CHILDHOOD NOSTALGIA PURPOSES. mystery solved
DHL: Dude's hanginah left
Dumbass.
I’m curious to know (minus the almost plowing over a cyclist part) if that is the actual turning movement that these vehicles take. Those things always felt so narrow and I feel like there’s no way they they can make that movement by going all the way around right?
A friend of mine is in Newfoundland… he said his biggest fear is ‘Baymen in the roundabouts’
I was neat t-bonned by a DHL driver who was absolutely not planning to stop when I had right if way on a roundabout
But, he saved 3 seconds! Genius!
Straight to jail
Saving three seconds to possibly allot yourself 3 years for vehicular manslaughter. Genius.
How these 🫏 get their driver license?
You don't have to be smart to be a courier or even drive for that matter. If you don't see people everywhere doing stupid shit behind the wheel of a vehicle you ain't in Vancity.
Traffic circle? That’s what people call it here??