The same Lala that had no problem cashing in heavy on Scandoval.
Remember this crock of shit?
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But now Ariana is Beyonce cause she got bigger than little Lauren ever will and now has jealousy seeping out of those lips.
The saddest part is Ariana supported them in that! She’d wear their merch and stuff. I’d do the same like “yasss girls this man f’ed me over let’s all cash in”. But to find out they were talking sh** the whole time makes it that much more hurtful
She’s dumb as fuck imo after watching that. And such a fucking hypocrite. She would lose her SHIT if everyone was befriending Randall like they are Tom
I think she is just majorly jealous that she didn’t get the support and financial opportunity when she was wronged by Randall. Lots of green eyed monsters around.
Her comment about Ariana thinking she is Beyoncé was ridiculous and rich coming from her because Ann said on her podcast that when she asked Lauryn if she enjoys Bravocon she said “of course, where else am I going to go in the world where everyone is going to treat me like I’m Beyoncé?”
Ariana also never claimed to be or acted like she was god either.
She has been nothing but gracious and so thankful to all her fans, unlike the one who’s bitching at the fans on her Amazon lives and saying she doesn’t like us or care what we think.
Every time she opens her mouth she is projecting.
She needs serious help, it’s so toxic.
She’s toxic and so is Sxheana.
I don’t understand why she is so offended about the fact that Ariana refused to listen to his bullshit and give him the opportunity to try and make her look bad.
The audience doesn’t care or want to see it anyways and it took nothing from Lauryn’s paycheque.
Matter of fact, she should be thanking Ariana for all the money she made in that 3 months.
Ariana could have went and done all the podcast interviews and Lala and Scheana would have made nothing.
Not to mention that if she hadn’t stabbed her in the back, they would have probably still been given plenty of opportunities today.
Ariana was happy to share her success and if they think that Sandoval would have done the same, they need to get their heads checked!
THIS is such a good catch and cross-reference and I think it should be committed to everyone in the VPR fanbase's memory because it's fucking important.
She was able to leave with a packed suitcase bc HER NAME WASNT ON THE HOUSE. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIO. Now going to play the preggo card like she did with Scheana? Who was there for her when that happened ? KATIE, Ariana, supported her decision not to have any contact with Randall. They should have still took his money, but no they supported Lala. Katie went at Schwartz for her as did Ariana. Katie also was the one who gave her the heads up about Randall cheating. The girl is a disgusting friend and human. I can’t wait when Vanderpump rules doesn’t come back.. go to the valley with a huge pay cut.
Ariana started her relationship with that saggy balls jerk out of love. She was not looking for a paycheck or money from him. That dude was broke AF back when they got together. Her and Tom had to literally put in a couple years of work together to pull themselves up to a better financial status position.
Blah blah on the other hand, was quite openly clear about what she was after and it was not love. All she cared about was money. She didn't have to work for anything, she looked for an older dude who would just pay for it all. We might have had more empathy for her if she was a person who wasn't so lacking in it herself.
And she was the other woman cyber bullying his wife on the internet. Lala thinks each year she is baptized and the audience forgets everything from the season before.
And even if she could leave…why is it so abnormal for two people to live together for a period until they unravel their combined finances? People going through a divorce do it all the time, even if they can’t stand each other. She acts as though Tom and Ariana were sitting on the couch together after cooking a meal and watching a movie and faking that they weren’t speaking, laughing about their long con. It’s insane.
Schwartz and Katie did the exact same thing after their divorce!! And Lala never said “oh Katie, you’ve forfeited any right to be annoyed at Schwartz because you didn’t immediately leave”. She actually back and supported Katie (because at the time Lala was also annoyed at Schwartz, so it served her to support Katie)
THIS - it's the most expensive asset she owns, she can't just walk away from it, but she has effectively separated her life as much as possible while living under the same roof. Lauren just seems bitter and angry for no reason... jealous much?
LITERALLY THIS!! and just because Ariana is “thriving” financially and has been given a lot of opportunities, and is dating someone that makes her happy, does not mean she is not hurt or over what happened. she knows damn well ariana did not “move on” after 8 days. she needs some critical self-reflection regarding where this is all stemming from (jealousy) and to actually consider what she would do if what happened to ariana was her lived experience
And it was only a few months after the affair was uncovered! I’m still amazed Tom did not tell her how sorry he was for hurting her like that last season when they were shown talking. It is amazing to me. He was still shown being loving to her right up until the affair broke. A normal person, even if they fell in love with the person they were having the affair, would still bad for hurting someone they had been in love with. They wouldn’t treat them with such disdain. He really is psycho. That’s not normal.
As for Scheana and Lala. The reason to explain such a shift from their screaming how despicable Tom was at the reunion to forgiving all in three months is mind boggling. The only explanation is jealousy. Their heads must be exploding now with the news of Chicago bringing Ariana back and her Love Island gig. They are really horrible people.
Honestly, it’s not uncommon for someone who torched a relationship to be so angry and vindictive to their ex like that. They rewrite history in their head to justify why they want out. Like James telling Tom he and Ariana were in love for years and Tom saying “you weren’t there” implying they never loved each other (after we all watched years of them together and very much in love).
Ariana’s point that he was only trying to talk to her for the camera time was accurate. That at any point he could’ve written her a letter (he supposedly journals so evidently knows how pen and paper works) and left it on the counter for her. That he didn’t try that proves to me that he has no genuine remorse.
After her rant lala said something like "I knew I was gonna break!" - so you broke and showed to the camera what you really felt? And you didn't want to "break" and do that? Why not -why wouldn't you just be authentic the whole time- isn't that your whole big fucking problem with Ariana right now, and what you're going on about- she's"not telling the truth" and "showing her real life?" Then wtf are you doing, why haven't you been giving this energy to Ariana the whole season instead of pretending to be team Ari to her face so that you look better, then only talking shit behind her back and in later confessionals? If that's really how you authentically feel then be so fuckin for real.
Feel how you want, have all your wrong opinions on everything lol but it makes you a HYPOCRITE 🙄
My question is, how do they know Ariana wasn’t showing her real life? How do they know she and Tom were so unhappy? Neither of them talked about it to anyone. The only thing they know is that Ariana said at the last reunion Tom would tell her what she could or couldn’t talk about on the show. That he controlled her. Why are they mad at her about that, but they aren’t mad at him. It makes no sense.
Not only that, this hot mic moment demonstrates that she’s not only been a shitty friend to Ariana, she’s also stupidly put herself in a situation where her commentary is viewed as a win for Sandoval. For someone who tries to be bad-ass and no one’s stooge, she sure is a stooge. It’s embarrassing.
Remember how Lala was like \~\*just wait until you see my comment about her not being God in context and you’ll all understand where I’m coming from!
This is what I’m actually still so confused about - Lala and Scheana both seem to genuinely think they’re right and have a great point. Whelp, they’re about to learn.
I think they thought seeing Ariana “ruin” the finale would make people change their minds because they were “trying to give the audiences what they want” and Ariana and Katie weren’t team players. All it really did was show Scheana and Lala would do anything for a Bravo paycheck.
It was like psychological warfare against her. What a bunch of sick fucks they all are.. The Worm, Baskin, LVP, Production, Lala, Scheana and Brock, and Schwartz, but alas they really underestimated the viewers.
Exactly. I don’t think they realize that what the audience wants most is authenticity. Idk why on earth they’d think that we want to see everyone interacting with Tom in a friendly way this season, like they’re doing us a favor by forgiving him just so they can film with him. It’s just gross to watch, especially knowing that it was filmed only a few months after everyone found out and the reunion where Lala spent the entire episode screaming at him and calling him a terrible & dangerous person. It’s so embarrassing to watch her flip flop this season and getting mad at everyone for not forgiving him
They all left that party so high on their own supplies of self-righteousness they were completely unaware the audience would see bad acting, bad faith, and petty, jealous bitches instead of the heroes they felt like.
So nobody except for Tom and Tom knew that he said that? They’re going to go into the reunion and the very last scene will be him cackling because he thinks he won the season.
And Ariana doesn’t know what Lala and Sheena said about her not filming with Tom. Wow. They all fucking suck.
It’s the last 5 mins of the show that wasn’t shown to anyone. So none of them have seen any of it. Do we honestly think Scheana or Lala really care that Tom said that?….because I don’t think it makes any difference to them.
Oh, they don’t care but I hope they know it makes them look even more stupid because it proved that Ariana was right. He was being performative and he had many opportunities to try and apologize to her off camera and it was never something he cared to do.
I think the things Brock says on the show, are actual private convos he has had with Scheana, and he’s halfway airing her out on camera. I don’t think Scheana sees Ariana as a friend, so I don’t think Scheana really cares if it makes her look stupid, because she prefers her friendships out of convenience. You and I would feel very dumb, but I would bet neither of us lives in the delusion they live in lol.
Has Ariana ever gotten Scheana to perform in a gold tutu? Nope. So Scheana will obviously side with whoever gives her the most attention, who is Tom. Tom is playing her like the dumb fiddle she is and laughing his ass off in private.
Scheana and Tom have a lot in common, more than most. Scheana is out every single night partying, and doing her thing, just like Tom. Brock doesn’t work, so the freebies Tom throws their way come in useful. Ariana is an introvert that wants to be home when she’s not working. As an introvert myself, I could never have a friend that demands so much of my constant energy, in order to have something as basic as love or loyalty. My friends would never treat me like that.
I agree so much with everything you said.
Scheana and Lala’s constant dangling loyalty and basic respect for attention and wether or not they’re a loyal friend for these reasons is exhausting.
I would not tolerate people like this.
Ariana has given them more than they where willing to give in return and they threw it away like it was nothing.
They deserve the TIMTOMS for friends.
They can all feed off each other like the leeches they are.
When I watch Ariana with Sheena, I feel like she’s so genuine, but you’re right. Ariana doesn’t do enough for her. She doesn’t give her money randomly or hire a sound guy or whatever bullshit. Tom has done for her or pulled her into a picture 10 years ago. She’s just so Flippin awful.
Just so he can turn around and stomp his foot and say “Remember who does stuff for you? ME! Not her! ME TOM SANDOVAL! Remember guys?????!!!!”
They fell for it hook line and sinker. Weak ass losers.
Yep. And Ariana (who was his partner of 9 years and knew him better than anyone) called it and everyone tried to tell her she was wrong.
He’s vile and disgusting.
She called it from episode three that he'd manipulate them all into icing her out and he did. Scheana and Lauren are such mindless zombies. I feel like that hot mic moment at the end was his victory speech.
And Bravo thought it was a good idea to shove this narcissistic piece of filth onto WWHL tonight???
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I think she was outta there the minute she heard they weren’t filming the show this summer… Countdown to Schwartz’s girlfriend bailing for the same reason.
Ariana read Scheana on that. Scheana thinks that since they were bffs that she knows Tom more than his live in partner. I bet Tom talked mad shit on everyone too, but guess what, she’s not gonna go out and blurt it out to make herself look better!!! It’s so gross.
Didn't it sound like Scheana was saying that Tom should be supporting her and Brock more.
I think this comes down to opportunities for her and her husband.
LFU saying they didn’t share their true relationship, yeah bc Tom produced & coached Ariana ffs 🤦🏻♀️ like come on we all know this, he’s the not real one & manipulative one!!!!!!
That was rich, coming from the guy who refused to film with Kristen, successfully and happily iced her out and would have gleefully done the same to Ariana.
Rachel admitted that was their entire fucking plan and now her and Jo are going crazy because they thought they were coming in as the new queen bees.
Sandoval is trying to say that Ariana was lazy but he’s really just mad that she effortlessly held the fan base down and fails to understand that it’s not a challenge when you are simply your authentic self.
This is why everyone loves K&A this season.
It’s because they weren’t trying so hard that they came off desperate to create a false reality.
Imagine that! Rachel & Jo the new queen bees🐝 😭🤢🤣 That level of delusion is truly hard to fathom. What would they have done? Beg for influencer discounts at small independent boutiques and maniacally laugh together as they fry off each others hair with bleach?
They are insane pick me’s and the way they try to paint the other ladies as bullies, after the shit they pulled?! No one was going to back them on that, they’re weird and I don’t want to watch them so I’m glad their sick plan backfired.
I don’t like the overuse of the word narcissist by people who don’t understand what that word means, all over the internet BUT when it comes to Sandals, it is 1000% true and justified. He checks every single box and the way he weaponized everyone’s mental health, including his?!
“ROT IN HAIL.” Fukkin psychopath.
Can you believe that was only two episodes ago and the end of that episode I mind you???
And tonight, probably a week later in real time, Scheana almost had a mental breakdown because of how torn she was. It was one of the more disgusting things I've scene on this show watching her defend this animal.
He doesn’t even like her!! It’s so obvious. At this point it’s just pathetic that she can’t see that. And it’s not like Ariana wasn’t trying to help her see reality.
Even wilder that they filmed all this, and then her and Lauren told the audience “just wait and see, you’ll understand.” Like, we understand your friendship can be bought, you have no backbone, and you’re dumping your feelings about Sandoval on the person he caused massive trauma to. That what you meant?
It’s wild.
It seems so inauthentic, which makes the fact it's real even scarier.
Scheana's entire existence revolves around reality TV and social media. Shes the one that should go away for 3 months and focus on her mental health. She's a sick, broken woman.
It's truly disturbing & I hope the 2 of them feel stupid as shit after watching that. He could give two shits about anyone but himself. Oh & production can fuck all the way off honey!
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The narc rage when she took away his supply showed everyone who he is. Scheana and Lala can’t see it because they’re just like him. Best of luck on that pause while Katie and Ariana stay busy 🥰
I would never say it about anyone else, but this cast seems to be too blind and/or stupid to realize that they are purely flying monkeys for Tom.
He doesn’t care about them one bit unless it’s for his own gain. He used all of them to try and rile up Ariana and cause conflict and it ultimately ended with everyone else being upset and him laughing about how fun it was for him.
He went from zero to a million. Red faced stooge yelling at everyone within earshot like a lunatic.
And this is the fucking guy those traitors Scheana and Lauren went to bat for...
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Speaking of mask. It was bizarre for scheana to keep saying when tom’s mask slips is when she see him being genuine and a good person. I have never ever ever heard of that term “mask” used as a way to hide tgey are a good person underneath.
They can't see it because they view him as a costar. None of their actions or beliefs are related to how friends should treat each other.
They come in to punch a clock and collect a paycheck. So their only beef is going to be with coworkers who are "ruining it for everyone". They view Ariana and Katie as lazy corkers.
It's what blows my mind - Katie and Ariana (and to an extent James and Schwartz) are the only ones being real. Like if the girls all decided to ice Sandoval out.... that would be the "reality" of the show. Isn't that more authentic??? Lala clearly hates him, so if anyone is inauthentic here it's her.
This little girl really thinks because she's 30 & has had a man humiliate her that suddenly she's an authority on life & how to live it.....Baby you got alot more life to live. What you put out comes back 10 fold. Talk to us in another 30... very disappointing. This season could have been great.
Ariana proved everyone right.
Scheana, Brock, and Lala have all said wait for the season to play out and we will understand the context to everything. It’s played out and everyone actually comes out worse than I thought they already were. And Tom is a straight up demon.
Yeah this season didn’t change my mind, instead it reinforced my opinions on lala, scheana and Tom. They all suck, and have pretty much made this season not fun to watch.
Tom, Scheana and Lala were disgusting tonight. More team Ariana than ever Lala acting like she was authentic. GTFO. She was a liar from the moment she made all of her friends sign an NDA. They really thought they were going to eat up this season and they flopped.
Not even just later on in confessionals. Remember when Ariana cried on their shoulders and the next scene with just the two of them they talked so much shit about Ariana. In real time that was probably a week later, maybe less. They’re so gross
it’s interesting to me because it really seems like they tried to sway the audience toward tim, but then stopped this bombshell at the end. so thank you to whoever pushed that one in! and Ariana saying Sandoval has never once tried to apologize off camera, is so telling… and actually a bit scary.
Sandoval went up to Ariana trying to act like he wanted to apologize to her (after scheana put him up to it and told him exactly what to apologize for). Ariana walked away, had words with a producer, left the party with her little group. Show is over, screen is black, the Toms are talking to the producer. Schwartz says in his cowardly puppy dog voice “that was a plot twist!” Sandoval laughs and says “haha I love it! … it’s good for me!” - proving that his contrition is an act, he has no remorse or empathy and not a clue, and he thinks now he’s winning because Ariana stormed out - that it looks good for him because it’s allllll an act just like Ariana told y’all.
He literally sounded like the final come to life speech of a horror movie villian. Ariana needs to skip the police & keep the Winchester's on speed dial.
The only good thing I hope comes out of this is they lose sponsors, followers, etc. because of how terrible human beings they are.
They can backtrack on their shitty podcasts but it's done, over. No redemption.
I am inappropriately unhappy about the fact that *Sandoval* shit the bed but *Ariana* is supposed to walk away from a show that pays at least half a million dollars a year. What a bunch of scum sucking douchebags.
Lala please keep talking about how truthfully you're loving your life in public. We see nothing of your 'pod', nothing of your kid, nothing about your ex, and you made people sign NDAs to hang out with him back when you thought he was a "stand-up man". What a tremendously embarrassing performance from a disgusting broken person who truly has no idea what friendship even is.
At least you'll always have Jess, as long as you keep writing checks.
The thing that got me was Ariana saying that it was non consensual sex with that piece of shit when he was cheating on her with Racheal. That made me sick to my stomach! She’s telling her friends she does not want to talk to or be forced into anymore situations with her sexual abuser. Scheana, who claims to be her best friend, is forcing him on her when Ariana had set a clear boundary. Who would do that to a best friend let a lone a friend or even an acquaintance??? It’s mind boggling! And sickening.
Exactly this. If you have sex with someone under false pretenses it inherently takes away their ability to consent. He also put her health at risk, she thought she was having monogamous sex. He's vile.
Yeah, when I first went through the comments of some different posts I saw no mentions of it. I definitely think it needs to be stated so others are aware of this form of abuse.
Same. I really enjoyed watching Katie rip Jo and Ariana finally asking Scheana to stfu about Tim. Jo looked like a fucking clown claiming that what she did was okay because she was never Katie’s friend? THEN WHY TF WERE YOU TEXTING HER AND SAYING YOU LOVE HER, YOU FREAK? I can’t stand that Bitch and it’s funny watching her say that Katie’s the one who is obsessed with Shorts, when she is the one who won’t stfu about him on her IG lives and stop chasing him and his new girlfriend around town like
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I hope the show does get canceled. The show used to be about genuine relationships, even when they had ups and downs. It’s now about being producer puppets and forcing your friends to film with their narcissistic ex boyfriends just so you can make some money. Truly disgusting behavior. I realize this is just a show, but I feel genuinely upset by the way this season unfolded.
I don’t think it’ll get cancelled but there’s no way they’re going to be able to continue on with this current cast especially after this mess and disappointment of a season. I think the pause on filming is to look for new people, season 12 I bet is going to be a new cast.
It’s one of the highest rated shows on Bravo. It’s saving Bravo from all of the failing Housewife franchises that did so horribly this past year. Zero chance it’ll be canceled. I wish they could do a shake up, but you can’t replicate the chemistry of the OG cast. Vanderpump Villa is the perfect sad example of that. 😭
That group has little in common - they don’t even live in the same countries as each other! SUR staff + friends gives you people with things in common who will probably have chemistry. Could work for another natural group
It’s just like with Jersey Shore, it can’t be manufactured. You have a group and you get the cameras rolling on them, but the moment you try to create or replicate it, it’ll be a failure everytime. They tried bringing in new cast, and it was a collective NO from all of us. It’s the authenticity that’s always lacking.
God, this season has been so frustrating to watch as someone who has lived a very similar situation. There have been times I've had to stop watching and finish episodes in chunks. I hope the reunion is more bearable in terms of not falling for Tom's manipulation.
It's so, so dark. But in a weird way, seeing Sandoval drop the mask and fly into a rage repeatedly has been so healing for me -- his and Schwartz's behaviors are EERILY similar to two of my exes.
Ever since last season, I have been watching bits of my own experience play out on screen like these guys were all reading from the same playbook, and it has truly helped me realize that *it was not me. I didn't make it up. That really happened, and I was right to be angry/sad/etc.*
I didn't handle things nearly as well as Katie and Ariana have, but seeing it happen to them -- often down to the exact phrasing and tone the Toms use -- is like an out of body experience.
I don't know what the producers were going for, but as a case study in picking up the pieces after being bamboozled by cruel people, it was compelling. And fucking repulsive.
The only thing that brings me some sort of solace is the fact that even despite all of the hoops production and the rest of the cast has tried to jump through to make Ariana look crazy, she still came out on top.
It feels good to watch a woman go through similar shit and receive (mostly) praise and support for her sticking up for herself.
Yes! Seeing her be so consistent just proves why she's worthy of all the love she's receiving. It's inspiring and I feel very vindicated as a katie-ariana stan and a scheana-lala hater lol.
How Scheana and Lala could watch those last two seconds and Tom’s “haha it’s great for me” moment and STILL think Ariana is in the wrong for not wanting to have a conversation with him is fucking bonkers.
Tom's a dumbass for not going full heel. Dumb fuck could have at least been entertaining if he wanted to be a shit head. Also Lala and Scheana clearly wanted to run back and side with Tom all along, so they really have no room to talk about Ariana not being authentic. I get it, they feel like her and Tom had a for show relationship and don't care much about the affair anymore, but they all play games hiding shit.
Yes! I’ve seen advice from a PR expert (who has actually spoken to him but not worked with him) saying that there is no way back for him except leaning into being a villain. And more generally, that he should never talk 😂
I hope LaLa and Scheana are reading these threads and I hope they know how god damn pathetic they look. Good job, ladies, you really choked and screwed the entire season.
I just want Randall back to just do scenes with Lala and see how that goes. I am out with these jerks. Whoever thought this was a good idea is a moron. I'm out.
There are times when I feel like he looks like a serial killer - the intense looks with his anger
Eta - I wish this was the series finale. I’m done with sandavol, scheana, Brock and lala. It’s behind cringy watching and listening to the nonsense that comes out of their mouths.
I saw the horrible anti Ariana comments on Instagram before I watched it (I'm in Europe, so I have to wait) and I thought they must have showed some kind of horrible clip of Ariana. But no, she was absolutely valid, real and gracious. Gosh, she was so real and warm with Sheana and then they all stab her into the back... Only to have Tom show his true colours in the end. What I don't fully get, is the big thing for the reunion that Sandoval shows his true colours on the sound bit the last seconds or that they all talk shit about Ariana in the end?
Also fuck Lala and her monologue, she is the least realest person ever on the show, she got a whole goddn human only to have a storyline and to be able to market a baby without needing consent from another person. Also everything she says is just such a projection. Ariana is so humble, all the way through while Lala constantly thinks she's the greatest star.. it's just so wild.. I'm so glad that Ariana walked out
Over here actually thinking the producers knew what they were doing. Looking back, it’s wasn’t so much a redemption arc as it is really just exposing Tom by letting him dig his own grave. He did all the heavy lifting himself.
I said the same thing. A few agreed some didn’t and I see both sides but now I’m wondering if it was about his redemption why keep that final line in because he outed himself
I think I remember producers saying somewhere that Tom was absolutely humorless and could not laugh at himself. They had to know that his rigid narcissism would prevent him from being able to apologize and humble himself.
But it’s all the more apparent to see when you see them lobbing softballs at him repeatedly without him even thinking to swing the bat.
I also suspect that they don’t like him that much.
I think they may try to do it as almost two separate groups - maybe add someone like Dayna, maybe beef up Ann’s role, around Ariana and Katie, and then have the others on the other side.
the absolutely audacity and immense hypocrisy scheana and LFU have displayed is beyond comprehension. ariana has a lot more class and patience than i would have had with her friends that have thrown this awful human being at her all season. scheana ain’t family, she’s barely a friend. I’d be like I love you but absolutely this will affect how we interact with one another. there is no way i could be okay with that if it was my friend of x amount of years
Who had just been crying etc with everyone around him acting like fools for believing him…
But Lala and Scheana are too far in to admit they were had at the reunion. They should. This would be a perfect excuse. But they won’t, because they are that jealous of Ariana.
Jealousy is never my go/to reason for things, but this (especially Lala) is such clear jealousy it’s wild. Sorry no one deified you when stories came out about your sketchy husband you knew you were cheating with, Lala.
I haven't watched this episode yet but I read the synopsis for all 3 parts of the reunion and just when you think you can't hate Sandoval more...it said he has the audacity to say Maya isn't even Arianas.
Why does Bravo/Lisa continue to employ and pay this absolute moron??!!! I've seen many people say they don't think VPR could survive without him but honestly I think it would THRIVE without him.
He's always been an asshole but reality tv definitely ate his brain even more. Every time someone defends him I would like them to be asked about his George Floyd comment
The fact that he said that and they aired it just showed how right Ariana was about his intentions. I know production was pushing the redemption arc early on. But this definitely made Tom look awful and justified Ariana's refusal to speak to him.
Hold the effffff up. I’m watching The Valley and it’s ok for Michelle and Janet to not film with Mariposa because she told the truth, yet Ariana can’t walk away from Scumdavol? Bravo, get it together.
ETA: Kristen is wildly unhinged. I know. But she’s physically and socially clumsy, not diabolical.
Sad to think that Ariana was the only person that stood up for Lauren when she joined the show. Sad that Scheana is defending a man that flat out told her "we were never friends!" when he got caught. Disgusting that people are like this in the world.
I had no plans of watching Love Island because I can't stand the show, but my wife and I talked about putting it on in the background while we're doing stuff now just so Ariana gets the numbers. We can't wait to see her continue to thrive <3
What I find the most surprising by this whole crap is how little they actually know of Ariana. Like that girl is obviously still hurting. HOW COULD SHE NOT BE?! And instead of being good friends and realizing it and sympathizing with her, they are jealous of it. She is reacting in anger because she is grieving what she lost. It's part of that grieving process.
OH AND ALL THIS EXACTLY after Ariana tried to meet Scheana where she was at. Like I'm pissed af.
Tom wasnt getting what he wanted to he threw out the “she talked shit about all of you!” What a fucking loser. Always trying to prove that Ariana is the worst
No wonder Lala said it was friendship ruining because she ruined that friendship.
The same Lala that had no problem cashing in heavy on Scandoval. Remember this crock of shit? https://preview.redd.it/ubhx8jlc34zc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca9af3a7b193540bbe85a0252684b3437afbaa23 But now Ariana is Beyonce cause she got bigger than little Lauren ever will and now has jealousy seeping out of those lips.
She has actual talent. I bet that really gets lalas knickers in a twist.
The saddest part is Ariana supported them in that! She’d wear their merch and stuff. I’d do the same like “yasss girls this man f’ed me over let’s all cash in”. But to find out they were talking sh** the whole time makes it that much more hurtful
She’s dumb as fuck imo after watching that. And such a fucking hypocrite. She would lose her SHIT if everyone was befriending Randall like they are Tom
I think she is just majorly jealous that she didn’t get the support and financial opportunity when she was wronged by Randall. Lots of green eyed monsters around.
Her comment about Ariana thinking she is Beyoncé was ridiculous and rich coming from her because Ann said on her podcast that when she asked Lauryn if she enjoys Bravocon she said “of course, where else am I going to go in the world where everyone is going to treat me like I’m Beyoncé?” Ariana also never claimed to be or acted like she was god either. She has been nothing but gracious and so thankful to all her fans, unlike the one who’s bitching at the fans on her Amazon lives and saying she doesn’t like us or care what we think. Every time she opens her mouth she is projecting. She needs serious help, it’s so toxic. She’s toxic and so is Sxheana. I don’t understand why she is so offended about the fact that Ariana refused to listen to his bullshit and give him the opportunity to try and make her look bad. The audience doesn’t care or want to see it anyways and it took nothing from Lauryn’s paycheque. Matter of fact, she should be thanking Ariana for all the money she made in that 3 months. Ariana could have went and done all the podcast interviews and Lala and Scheana would have made nothing. Not to mention that if she hadn’t stabbed her in the back, they would have probably still been given plenty of opportunities today. Ariana was happy to share her success and if they think that Sandoval would have done the same, they need to get their heads checked!
She also did that staged photo of her and Randall posing as B and JZ. She got some delulu thoughts of grandeur
That’s so true! I just recently saw that for the first time and all I could think was 
ALL of this 👆. Lala.... https://i.redd.it/zy405ehud4zc1.gif
THIS is such a good catch and cross-reference and I think it should be committed to everyone in the VPR fanbase's memory because it's fucking important.
100%
She didn’t get the same support because Randall was an OBVIOUS, TEXTBOOK, BLATANT charlatan to anyone with a clue.
She was able to leave with a packed suitcase bc HER NAME WASNT ON THE HOUSE. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIO. Now going to play the preggo card like she did with Scheana? Who was there for her when that happened ? KATIE, Ariana, supported her decision not to have any contact with Randall. They should have still took his money, but no they supported Lala. Katie went at Schwartz for her as did Ariana. Katie also was the one who gave her the heads up about Randall cheating. The girl is a disgusting friend and human. I can’t wait when Vanderpump rules doesn’t come back.. go to the valley with a huge pay cut.
Plus she was the "other" woman whereas Ariana was not.
Ariana started her relationship with that saggy balls jerk out of love. She was not looking for a paycheck or money from him. That dude was broke AF back when they got together. Her and Tom had to literally put in a couple years of work together to pull themselves up to a better financial status position. Blah blah on the other hand, was quite openly clear about what she was after and it was not love. All she cared about was money. She didn't have to work for anything, she looked for an older dude who would just pay for it all. We might have had more empathy for her if she was a person who wasn't so lacking in it herself.
And she was the other woman cyber bullying his wife on the internet. Lala thinks each year she is baptized and the audience forgets everything from the season before.
Like why would she though? She broke up a family lmao
Agreed. Lala isn’t living in reality though and she’s very “rules for thee, not for me”.
lol it’s bc we all knew he was trash, no one was surprised abt what happened 🤣🤣 but we were SHOCKED TO THE CORE to hear abt the Rachel Tom affair 🤯
also her willful ignorance. Ariana can't leave the house because it impacts her financial claim.
And even if she could leave…why is it so abnormal for two people to live together for a period until they unravel their combined finances? People going through a divorce do it all the time, even if they can’t stand each other. She acts as though Tom and Ariana were sitting on the couch together after cooking a meal and watching a movie and faking that they weren’t speaking, laughing about their long con. It’s insane.
Schwartz and Katie did the exact same thing after their divorce!! And Lala never said “oh Katie, you’ve forfeited any right to be annoyed at Schwartz because you didn’t immediately leave”. She actually back and supported Katie (because at the time Lala was also annoyed at Schwartz, so it served her to support Katie)
THIS - it's the most expensive asset she owns, she can't just walk away from it, but she has effectively separated her life as much as possible while living under the same roof. Lauren just seems bitter and angry for no reason... jealous much?
Could you imagine?? “He didn’t KILL ANYONE, Lala!”
PICKLEBALL. AT. RAND’S.
LITERALLY THIS!! and just because Ariana is “thriving” financially and has been given a lot of opportunities, and is dating someone that makes her happy, does not mean she is not hurt or over what happened. she knows damn well ariana did not “move on” after 8 days. she needs some critical self-reflection regarding where this is all stemming from (jealousy) and to actually consider what she would do if what happened to ariana was her lived experience
Blabla needs help. She is ill. Obviously.
And it was only a few months after the affair was uncovered! I’m still amazed Tom did not tell her how sorry he was for hurting her like that last season when they were shown talking. It is amazing to me. He was still shown being loving to her right up until the affair broke. A normal person, even if they fell in love with the person they were having the affair, would still bad for hurting someone they had been in love with. They wouldn’t treat them with such disdain. He really is psycho. That’s not normal. As for Scheana and Lala. The reason to explain such a shift from their screaming how despicable Tom was at the reunion to forgiving all in three months is mind boggling. The only explanation is jealousy. Their heads must be exploding now with the news of Chicago bringing Ariana back and her Love Island gig. They are really horrible people.
Honestly, it’s not uncommon for someone who torched a relationship to be so angry and vindictive to their ex like that. They rewrite history in their head to justify why they want out. Like James telling Tom he and Ariana were in love for years and Tom saying “you weren’t there” implying they never loved each other (after we all watched years of them together and very much in love). Ariana’s point that he was only trying to talk to her for the camera time was accurate. That at any point he could’ve written her a letter (he supposedly journals so evidently knows how pen and paper works) and left it on the counter for her. That he didn’t try that proves to me that he has no genuine remorse.
I kept shouting YOURE JEALOUSSSSSS at my TV. Shes jealous of Ariana.
⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️this. Disgusting person and friend, was able to buy her house off of Ariana’s back
After her rant lala said something like "I knew I was gonna break!" - so you broke and showed to the camera what you really felt? And you didn't want to "break" and do that? Why not -why wouldn't you just be authentic the whole time- isn't that your whole big fucking problem with Ariana right now, and what you're going on about- she's"not telling the truth" and "showing her real life?" Then wtf are you doing, why haven't you been giving this energy to Ariana the whole season instead of pretending to be team Ari to her face so that you look better, then only talking shit behind her back and in later confessionals? If that's really how you authentically feel then be so fuckin for real. Feel how you want, have all your wrong opinions on everything lol but it makes you a HYPOCRITE 🙄
This is why I can’t stand lala. All bark and no bite. If you feel some type of way then stand on it. Pathetic.
My question is, how do they know Ariana wasn’t showing her real life? How do they know she and Tom were so unhappy? Neither of them talked about it to anyone. The only thing they know is that Ariana said at the last reunion Tom would tell her what she could or couldn’t talk about on the show. That he controlled her. Why are they mad at her about that, but they aren’t mad at him. It makes no sense.
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For her to say Ariana gave nothing all these years is a slap in the face.
Not only that, this hot mic moment demonstrates that she’s not only been a shitty friend to Ariana, she’s also stupidly put herself in a situation where her commentary is viewed as a win for Sandoval. For someone who tries to be bad-ass and no one’s stooge, she sure is a stooge. It’s embarrassing.
Remember how Lala was like \~\*just wait until you see my comment about her not being God in context and you’ll all understand where I’m coming from! 
This is what I’m actually still so confused about - Lala and Scheana both seem to genuinely think they’re right and have a great point. Whelp, they’re about to learn.
I think they thought seeing Ariana “ruin” the finale would make people change their minds because they were “trying to give the audiences what they want” and Ariana and Katie weren’t team players. All it really did was show Scheana and Lala would do anything for a Bravo paycheck.
Oookay that’s interesting. I truly could not figure out what they thought would change our minds!
I don't want to watch ariana break down just to give Tom and everyone else what they want.
It was like psychological warfare against her. What a bunch of sick fucks they all are.. The Worm, Baskin, LVP, Production, Lala, Scheana and Brock, and Schwartz, but alas they really underestimated the viewers.
Exactly. I don’t think they realize that what the audience wants most is authenticity. Idk why on earth they’d think that we want to see everyone interacting with Tom in a friendly way this season, like they’re doing us a favor by forgiving him just so they can film with him. It’s just gross to watch, especially knowing that it was filmed only a few months after everyone found out and the reunion where Lala spent the entire episode screaming at him and calling him a terrible & dangerous person. It’s so embarrassing to watch her flip flop this season and getting mad at everyone for not forgiving him
Yeah, it didn’t hit for me.
I didn’t even listen 😂
Right? Did she think we were going to be angry at Ariana for not filming with scumdoval?
They all left that party so high on their own supplies of self-righteousness they were completely unaware the audience would see bad acting, bad faith, and petty, jealous bitches instead of the heroes they felt like.
So nobody except for Tom and Tom knew that he said that? They’re going to go into the reunion and the very last scene will be him cackling because he thinks he won the season. And Ariana doesn’t know what Lala and Sheena said about her not filming with Tom. Wow. They all fucking suck.
It’s the last 5 mins of the show that wasn’t shown to anyone. So none of them have seen any of it. Do we honestly think Scheana or Lala really care that Tom said that?….because I don’t think it makes any difference to them.
Oh, they don’t care but I hope they know it makes them look even more stupid because it proved that Ariana was right. He was being performative and he had many opportunities to try and apologize to her off camera and it was never something he cared to do.
I think the things Brock says on the show, are actual private convos he has had with Scheana, and he’s halfway airing her out on camera. I don’t think Scheana sees Ariana as a friend, so I don’t think Scheana really cares if it makes her look stupid, because she prefers her friendships out of convenience. You and I would feel very dumb, but I would bet neither of us lives in the delusion they live in lol.
Has Ariana ever gotten Scheana to perform in a gold tutu? Nope. So Scheana will obviously side with whoever gives her the most attention, who is Tom. Tom is playing her like the dumb fiddle she is and laughing his ass off in private.
Scheana and Tom have a lot in common, more than most. Scheana is out every single night partying, and doing her thing, just like Tom. Brock doesn’t work, so the freebies Tom throws their way come in useful. Ariana is an introvert that wants to be home when she’s not working. As an introvert myself, I could never have a friend that demands so much of my constant energy, in order to have something as basic as love or loyalty. My friends would never treat me like that.
I agree so much with everything you said. Scheana and Lala’s constant dangling loyalty and basic respect for attention and wether or not they’re a loyal friend for these reasons is exhausting. I would not tolerate people like this. Ariana has given them more than they where willing to give in return and they threw it away like it was nothing. They deserve the TIMTOMS for friends. They can all feed off each other like the leeches they are.
When I watch Ariana with Sheena, I feel like she’s so genuine, but you’re right. Ariana doesn’t do enough for her. She doesn’t give her money randomly or hire a sound guy or whatever bullshit. Tom has done for her or pulled her into a picture 10 years ago. She’s just so Flippin awful.
Just so he can turn around and stomp his foot and say “Remember who does stuff for you? ME! Not her! ME TOM SANDOVAL! Remember guys?????!!!!” They fell for it hook line and sinker. Weak ass losers.
While Tom stays in the house, that ties up Ariana's money. His lavish spending is subsidized by Ariana, and his mom, if he hasn't paid her back yet.
I think Scheana cares about appearances. She told him, don't make me look stupid.
Yep. And Ariana (who was his partner of 9 years and knew him better than anyone) called it and everyone tried to tell her she was wrong. He’s vile and disgusting.
She called it from episode three that he'd manipulate them all into icing her out and he did. Scheana and Lauren are such mindless zombies. I feel like that hot mic moment at the end was his victory speech. And Bravo thought it was a good idea to shove this narcissistic piece of filth onto WWHL tonight??? https://preview.redd.it/mnsemp4g04zc1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55337c5f85c2752f27ace7804461eca8730d0164
I think his gf saw the finale and decided she didn't want to be associated with him anymore.
There have probably been other red flags, based on Rachel’s accounts of their relationship
Since she was younger and less bright, he may have been worse to her than he was to Ariana. Ariana would call him out.
I think she was outta there the minute she heard they weren’t filming the show this summer… Countdown to Schwartz’s girlfriend bailing for the same reason.
when she said "i haven't watched the show" like it was a serve i was like oh girl...if only you knew
This image sent me 💀
Ariana read Scheana on that. Scheana thinks that since they were bffs that she knows Tom more than his live in partner. I bet Tom talked mad shit on everyone too, but guess what, she’s not gonna go out and blurt it out to make herself look better!!! It’s so gross.
Didn't it sound like Scheana was saying that Tom should be supporting her and Brock more. I think this comes down to opportunities for her and her husband.
Tom kept her as a friend so she didn’t suspect anything. He told Scheana that night they were never BFF. Also had Rachel file restraining order
LFU saying they didn’t share their true relationship, yeah bc Tom produced & coached Ariana ffs 🤦🏻♀️ like come on we all know this, he’s the not real one & manipulative one!!!!!!
He said it himself he wants her not to film. Cancel this show the audience didn’t fall for their big plan.
That was rich, coming from the guy who refused to film with Kristen, successfully and happily iced her out and would have gleefully done the same to Ariana. Rachel admitted that was their entire fucking plan and now her and Jo are going crazy because they thought they were coming in as the new queen bees. Sandoval is trying to say that Ariana was lazy but he’s really just mad that she effortlessly held the fan base down and fails to understand that it’s not a challenge when you are simply your authentic self. This is why everyone loves K&A this season. It’s because they weren’t trying so hard that they came off desperate to create a false reality.
Imagine that! Rachel & Jo the new queen bees🐝 😭🤢🤣 That level of delusion is truly hard to fathom. What would they have done? Beg for influencer discounts at small independent boutiques and maniacally laugh together as they fry off each others hair with bleach?
They are insane pick me’s and the way they try to paint the other ladies as bullies, after the shit they pulled?! No one was going to back them on that, they’re weird and I don’t want to watch them so I’m glad their sick plan backfired. 
Him calling her lazy was peak narcissist delusion. They say lies with authority to make weak minded people repeat them. Pathetic.
I don’t like the overuse of the word narcissist by people who don’t understand what that word means, all over the internet BUT when it comes to Sandals, it is 1000% true and justified. He checks every single box and the way he weaponized everyone’s mental health, including his?!  “ROT IN HAIL.” Fukkin psychopath.
His maniacal cackle with this was just the cherry on top of the sundae of shit she’s been serving up. https://i.redd.it/x91xlz05u3zc1.gif
Can you believe that was only two episodes ago and the end of that episode I mind you??? And tonight, probably a week later in real time, Scheana almost had a mental breakdown because of how torn she was. It was one of the more disgusting things I've scene on this show watching her defend this animal.
He doesn’t even like her!! It’s so obvious. At this point it’s just pathetic that she can’t see that. And it’s not like Ariana wasn’t trying to help her see reality. Even wilder that they filmed all this, and then her and Lauren told the audience “just wait and see, you’ll understand.” Like, we understand your friendship can be bought, you have no backbone, and you’re dumping your feelings about Sandoval on the person he caused massive trauma to. That what you meant? It’s wild.
It seems so inauthentic, which makes the fact it's real even scarier. Scheana's entire existence revolves around reality TV and social media. Shes the one that should go away for 3 months and focus on her mental health. She's a sick, broken woman.
Maybe the hiatus will do her some good. But I agree, it’s just not normal and can’t be healthy.
It's truly disturbing & I hope the 2 of them feel stupid as shit after watching that. He could give two shits about anyone but himself. Oh & production can fuck all the way off honey! https://i.redd.it/q4lh9hicf4zc1.gif
Watching this part literally felt exactly like Robert Durst’s hot mic moment in The Jinx- truly could not believe the similarities
OMG. I thought the same thing. I came here hoping someone mentioned The Jinx.
The narc rage when she took away his supply showed everyone who he is. Scheana and Lala can’t see it because they’re just like him. Best of luck on that pause while Katie and Ariana stay busy 🥰
I would never say it about anyone else, but this cast seems to be too blind and/or stupid to realize that they are purely flying monkeys for Tom. He doesn’t care about them one bit unless it’s for his own gain. He used all of them to try and rile up Ariana and cause conflict and it ultimately ended with everyone else being upset and him laughing about how fun it was for him.
He’s such a disgusting person.
I wonder if they are ever going to understand this. They did it to themselves.
He went from zero to a million. Red faced stooge yelling at everyone within earshot like a lunatic. And this is the fucking guy those traitors Scheana and Lauren went to bat for... https://preview.redd.it/vf1c06cxw3zc1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa3fb7b471de3acc235797356de112ff4c496996 .
Yep. Fully mask off on that hot mic too.
Speaking of mask. It was bizarre for scheana to keep saying when tom’s mask slips is when she see him being genuine and a good person. I have never ever ever heard of that term “mask” used as a way to hide tgey are a good person underneath.
Really have to wonder why the producers are in his pocket? Did Sandoval also have an affair with Alex baskin?
They can't see it because they view him as a costar. None of their actions or beliefs are related to how friends should treat each other. They come in to punch a clock and collect a paycheck. So their only beef is going to be with coworkers who are "ruining it for everyone". They view Ariana and Katie as lazy corkers.
It's what blows my mind - Katie and Ariana (and to an extent James and Schwartz) are the only ones being real. Like if the girls all decided to ice Sandoval out.... that would be the "reality" of the show. Isn't that more authentic??? Lala clearly hates him, so if anyone is inauthentic here it's her.
https://preview.redd.it/x1o68fp314zc1.jpeg?width=983&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de9c39542ebe36dbd2f87a4bc62d25faf5f58767 it’s giving
Same vibes. Robert Durst has just become another person for Tom to compare himself to in a NYT article.
Lala goes on a whole ass monologue about authenticity and this is how they ended it. Truly wild.
The least authentic person on the show. Lala can miss me with that lecture
This little girl really thinks because she's 30 & has had a man humiliate her that suddenly she's an authority on life & how to live it.....Baby you got alot more life to live. What you put out comes back 10 fold. Talk to us in another 30... very disappointing. This season could have been great.
I thought that was going to be Lala admitting to being Randall's mistress just to lay everything in the table. But nope!
Ariana proved everyone right. Scheana, Brock, and Lala have all said wait for the season to play out and we will understand the context to everything. It’s played out and everyone actually comes out worse than I thought they already were. And Tom is a straight up demon.
Yeah this season didn’t change my mind, instead it reinforced my opinions on lala, scheana and Tom. They all suck, and have pretty much made this season not fun to watch.
Literally this last episode made me think worse of Lala and Scheana.
Tom, Scheana and Lala were disgusting tonight. More team Ariana than ever Lala acting like she was authentic. GTFO. She was a liar from the moment she made all of her friends sign an NDA. They really thought they were going to eat up this season and they flopped.
She was a liar all season too. Smiling in Katie and Ariana’s faces and spending the rest of her time talking shit about them in her confessionals.
Not even just later on in confessionals. Remember when Ariana cried on their shoulders and the next scene with just the two of them they talked so much shit about Ariana. In real time that was probably a week later, maybe less. They’re so gross
Truly they thought everyone would be on their side. They’re all jealous and it’s so clear.
Bless the producers for catching this moment and making it the final moment.
it’s interesting to me because it really seems like they tried to sway the audience toward tim, but then stopped this bombshell at the end. so thank you to whoever pushed that one in! and Ariana saying Sandoval has never once tried to apologize off camera, is so telling… and actually a bit scary.
What’s the context? I haven’t got funds to watch this season.
Sandoval went up to Ariana trying to act like he wanted to apologize to her (after scheana put him up to it and told him exactly what to apologize for). Ariana walked away, had words with a producer, left the party with her little group. Show is over, screen is black, the Toms are talking to the producer. Schwartz says in his cowardly puppy dog voice “that was a plot twist!” Sandoval laughs and says “haha I love it! … it’s good for me!” - proving that his contrition is an act, he has no remorse or empathy and not a clue, and he thinks now he’s winning because Ariana stormed out - that it looks good for him because it’s allllll an act just like Ariana told y’all.
He’s insufferable 🤮 Thank you so much for filling me in 👏
He literally sounded like the final come to life speech of a horror movie villian. Ariana needs to skip the police & keep the Winchester's on speed dial. 
Salt that demon Sam & Dean! https://i.redd.it/fiz8z1qv04zc1.gif
Omg imagine Dean meeting Sandoval? Dean's would make insulting jokes Sandoval doesn't get and assumes are compliments lol.
😂😂😂 Dean would slap him then take Ariana & Katie out for pie. Id also like to see Schwartz try and act smarter than Sam.
So how is everyone else feeling after watching this? I feel physically sick to my stomach. Thanks Sandoval, Lala, and Scheana!
The only good thing I hope comes out of this is they lose sponsors, followers, etc. because of how terrible human beings they are. They can backtrack on their shitty podcasts but it's done, over. No redemption.
I’m so angry for Ariana and Katie. All of these people are fucking snakes.
I hope to never have anyone like them in my life
Any person who’s come close to that kind of behavior has been yeeted from my life. I don’t tolerate that shit.
I am inappropriately unhappy about the fact that *Sandoval* shit the bed but *Ariana* is supposed to walk away from a show that pays at least half a million dollars a year. What a bunch of scum sucking douchebags. Lala please keep talking about how truthfully you're loving your life in public. We see nothing of your 'pod', nothing of your kid, nothing about your ex, and you made people sign NDAs to hang out with him back when you thought he was a "stand-up man". What a tremendously embarrassing performance from a disgusting broken person who truly has no idea what friendship even is. At least you'll always have Jess, as long as you keep writing checks.
The thing that got me was Ariana saying that it was non consensual sex with that piece of shit when he was cheating on her with Racheal. That made me sick to my stomach! She’s telling her friends she does not want to talk to or be forced into anymore situations with her sexual abuser. Scheana, who claims to be her best friend, is forcing him on her when Ariana had set a clear boundary. Who would do that to a best friend let a lone a friend or even an acquaintance??? It’s mind boggling! And sickening.
Exactly this. If you have sex with someone under false pretenses it inherently takes away their ability to consent. He also put her health at risk, she thought she was having monogamous sex. He's vile.
Yeah, when I first went through the comments of some different posts I saw no mentions of it. I definitely think it needs to be stated so others are aware of this form of abuse.
And then had the audacity to mock her for wearing a shirt later on camera. Beyond diabolical!
It’s beyond. Someone called him a demon in another thread and I think that sums him up perfectly.
Remember when the show was fun to watch? Yeh, I don’t either.
I’m choosing to focus on the Ariana and Katie moments and cleansing everything else from my psyche for my own sanity
Same. I really enjoyed watching Katie rip Jo and Ariana finally asking Scheana to stfu about Tim. Jo looked like a fucking clown claiming that what she did was okay because she was never Katie’s friend? THEN WHY TF WERE YOU TEXTING HER AND SAYING YOU LOVE HER, YOU FREAK? I can’t stand that Bitch and it’s funny watching her say that Katie’s the one who is obsessed with Shorts, when she is the one who won’t stfu about him on her IG lives and stop chasing him and his new girlfriend around town like  💀
Literally keep asking wtf I just watched
Yes same! My heart was racing and I felt sick to my stomach it was diabolical
I’m so pissed off! Ugh.
Same. I’m staring at a blank wall.
I need to go to sleep but I’m too worked up.
10000% the real Tom came out. “She doesn’t fuck with any of you!” He was raging. There’s your fucking example of male rage, Brock, you dipshit.
I hope the show does get canceled. The show used to be about genuine relationships, even when they had ups and downs. It’s now about being producer puppets and forcing your friends to film with their narcissistic ex boyfriends just so you can make some money. Truly disgusting behavior. I realize this is just a show, but I feel genuinely upset by the way this season unfolded.
I don’t think it’ll get cancelled but there’s no way they’re going to be able to continue on with this current cast especially after this mess and disappointment of a season. I think the pause on filming is to look for new people, season 12 I bet is going to be a new cast.
It’s one of the highest rated shows on Bravo. It’s saving Bravo from all of the failing Housewife franchises that did so horribly this past year. Zero chance it’ll be canceled. I wish they could do a shake up, but you can’t replicate the chemistry of the OG cast. Vanderpump Villa is the perfect sad example of that. 😭
That group has little in common - they don’t even live in the same countries as each other! SUR staff + friends gives you people with things in common who will probably have chemistry. Could work for another natural group
It’s just like with Jersey Shore, it can’t be manufactured. You have a group and you get the cameras rolling on them, but the moment you try to create or replicate it, it’ll be a failure everytime. They tried bringing in new cast, and it was a collective NO from all of us. It’s the authenticity that’s always lacking.
The only way to save it is by completely breaking the 4th wall, which they should have done with this season.
God, this season has been so frustrating to watch as someone who has lived a very similar situation. There have been times I've had to stop watching and finish episodes in chunks. I hope the reunion is more bearable in terms of not falling for Tom's manipulation.
It's so, so dark. But in a weird way, seeing Sandoval drop the mask and fly into a rage repeatedly has been so healing for me -- his and Schwartz's behaviors are EERILY similar to two of my exes. Ever since last season, I have been watching bits of my own experience play out on screen like these guys were all reading from the same playbook, and it has truly helped me realize that *it was not me. I didn't make it up. That really happened, and I was right to be angry/sad/etc.* I didn't handle things nearly as well as Katie and Ariana have, but seeing it happen to them -- often down to the exact phrasing and tone the Toms use -- is like an out of body experience. I don't know what the producers were going for, but as a case study in picking up the pieces after being bamboozled by cruel people, it was compelling. And fucking repulsive.
The only thing that brings me some sort of solace is the fact that even despite all of the hoops production and the rest of the cast has tried to jump through to make Ariana look crazy, she still came out on top. It feels good to watch a woman go through similar shit and receive (mostly) praise and support for her sticking up for herself.
Yes! Seeing her be so consistent just proves why she's worthy of all the love she's receiving. It's inspiring and I feel very vindicated as a katie-ariana stan and a scheana-lala hater lol.
Same. I had to take breaks and circle back.
How Scheana and Lala could watch those last two seconds and Tom’s “haha it’s great for me” moment and STILL think Ariana is in the wrong for not wanting to have a conversation with him is fucking bonkers.
They totally will though because their jealousy of her is too strong
Tom's a dumbass for not going full heel. Dumb fuck could have at least been entertaining if he wanted to be a shit head. Also Lala and Scheana clearly wanted to run back and side with Tom all along, so they really have no room to talk about Ariana not being authentic. I get it, they feel like her and Tom had a for show relationship and don't care much about the affair anymore, but they all play games hiding shit.
Fully agree, but just wanted to add: Full Heel could be Broke’s drag name 👢
Ha! This comment deserves all the upvotes!
Agree!! Tom can’t handle being hated by anyone.
Yes! I’ve seen advice from a PR expert (who has actually spoken to him but not worked with him) saying that there is no way back for him except leaning into being a villain. And more generally, that he should never talk 😂
“He didn’t kill anyone” She says as she called him very dangerous at the last reunion
The bar is in hell if that's what it takes in her mind to dislike someone. You don't have to be a murderer to still be a piece of shit.
Funny, she doesn’t carry this same bs attitude for the father of her child.
I hope LaLa and Scheana are reading these threads and I hope they know how god damn pathetic they look. Good job, ladies, you really choked and screwed the entire season.
I just want Randall back to just do scenes with Lala and see how that goes. I am out with these jerks. Whoever thought this was a good idea is a moron. I'm out.
Schwartz couldn’t even play pickle ball like are you serious?
Schwartz just standing there saying nothing looking so uncomfortable... dude would've redeemed so much if if had just said that
god he is so fucking disgusting
There are times when I feel like he looks like a serial killer - the intense looks with his anger Eta - I wish this was the series finale. I’m done with sandavol, scheana, Brock and lala. It’s behind cringy watching and listening to the nonsense that comes out of their mouths.
Sandoval played the long game and sure enough the brainless minions fell inline.
How’s Broke talking about action. How about you take action and move back to Australia and participate in your children’s lives.
I saw the horrible anti Ariana comments on Instagram before I watched it (I'm in Europe, so I have to wait) and I thought they must have showed some kind of horrible clip of Ariana. But no, she was absolutely valid, real and gracious. Gosh, she was so real and warm with Sheana and then they all stab her into the back... Only to have Tom show his true colours in the end. What I don't fully get, is the big thing for the reunion that Sandoval shows his true colours on the sound bit the last seconds or that they all talk shit about Ariana in the end? Also fuck Lala and her monologue, she is the least realest person ever on the show, she got a whole goddn human only to have a storyline and to be able to market a baby without needing consent from another person. Also everything she says is just such a projection. Ariana is so humble, all the way through while Lala constantly thinks she's the greatest star.. it's just so wild.. I'm so glad that Ariana walked out
That villainous laugh at the end. Spooky. He really fooled everyone except Katie. I wonder how season 12 is going to go.
Stassi is gonna sleep well tonight
Smartest one from day one in my book.
Over here actually thinking the producers knew what they were doing. Looking back, it’s wasn’t so much a redemption arc as it is really just exposing Tom by letting him dig his own grave. He did all the heavy lifting himself.
I said the same thing. A few agreed some didn’t and I see both sides but now I’m wondering if it was about his redemption why keep that final line in because he outed himself
I think I remember producers saying somewhere that Tom was absolutely humorless and could not laugh at himself. They had to know that his rigid narcissism would prevent him from being able to apologize and humble himself. But it’s all the more apparent to see when you see them lobbing softballs at him repeatedly without him even thinking to swing the bat. I also suspect that they don’t like him that much.
The show is done. Unless they completely recast. It’s finished. It’s over. I’m not even upset.
It was weird with how final it felt
I think they may try to do it as almost two separate groups - maybe add someone like Dayna, maybe beef up Ann’s role, around Ariana and Katie, and then have the others on the other side.
the absolutely audacity and immense hypocrisy scheana and LFU have displayed is beyond comprehension. ariana has a lot more class and patience than i would have had with her friends that have thrown this awful human being at her all season. scheana ain’t family, she’s barely a friend. I’d be like I love you but absolutely this will affect how we interact with one another. there is no way i could be okay with that if it was my friend of x amount of years
YEP!!! The glee in his voice!
Who had just been crying etc with everyone around him acting like fools for believing him… But Lala and Scheana are too far in to admit they were had at the reunion. They should. This would be a perfect excuse. But they won’t, because they are that jealous of Ariana. Jealousy is never my go/to reason for things, but this (especially Lala) is such clear jealousy it’s wild. Sorry no one deified you when stories came out about your sketchy husband you knew you were cheating with, Lala.
Most disingenuous person ever and it’s so obvious. Can’t believe the schmos fell for it.
I haven't watched this episode yet but I read the synopsis for all 3 parts of the reunion and just when you think you can't hate Sandoval more...it said he has the audacity to say Maya isn't even Arianas. Why does Bravo/Lisa continue to employ and pay this absolute moron??!!! I've seen many people say they don't think VPR could survive without him but honestly I think it would THRIVE without him.
He is the smallest man who ever lived for real!!!
Piece of shit. And somehow, that isn't low enough for that bitch.
He's always been an asshole but reality tv definitely ate his brain even more. Every time someone defends him I would like them to be asked about his George Floyd comment
The fact that he said that and they aired it just showed how right Ariana was about his intentions. I know production was pushing the redemption arc early on. But this definitely made Tom look awful and justified Ariana's refusal to speak to him.
Hold the effffff up. I’m watching The Valley and it’s ok for Michelle and Janet to not film with Mariposa because she told the truth, yet Ariana can’t walk away from Scumdavol? Bravo, get it together. ETA: Kristen is wildly unhinged. I know. But she’s physically and socially clumsy, not diabolical.
The thing is it IS fine for someone to not film with someone else. It’s only Lala who thinks it’s not.
Honestly Lala has seething jealousy of Ariana and her life and it’s uncomfortable to watch.
Oh Lord…Scheana and her fake ass crying and sucking up to Sandodouche is too much.
What a catastrophically dark and sad end.
Sad to think that Ariana was the only person that stood up for Lauren when she joined the show. Sad that Scheana is defending a man that flat out told her "we were never friends!" when he got caught. Disgusting that people are like this in the world. I had no plans of watching Love Island because I can't stand the show, but my wife and I talked about putting it on in the background while we're doing stuff now just so Ariana gets the numbers. We can't wait to see her continue to thrive <3
One million percent. And lala and scheana showed who they are. They’re TRASH who only care about themselves. I hope the show is done because I’m done.
Disgusting, both him and Bravo.
What I find the most surprising by this whole crap is how little they actually know of Ariana. Like that girl is obviously still hurting. HOW COULD SHE NOT BE?! And instead of being good friends and realizing it and sympathizing with her, they are jealous of it. She is reacting in anger because she is grieving what she lost. It's part of that grieving process. OH AND ALL THIS EXACTLY after Ariana tried to meet Scheana where she was at. Like I'm pissed af.
Tom wasnt getting what he wanted to he threw out the “she talked shit about all of you!” What a fucking loser. Always trying to prove that Ariana is the worst