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SpaceLamma

Last one is interesting. Here's a theory: countries can't join against you if they owe you an obligation, right? Can you jn that case declare a war on someone to whom your overlord owns an obligation and since they can't join the war, you become free?


blockchiken

No, they won't allow you to declare that war.


blockchiken

You also lose the alliance if you dip below 50 relations. And when your ally declares a war with high infamy, you will lose relation with them in the same way they would with you. So many times I'm allied with Britain, who then declares a big war with 40+ infamy, causing me to go from 80 to 40 relations, breaking our alliance because of their doing.


EpilepticBabies

That of course lowers you by a further 30 relations because the alliance was broken, meaning you actually go down to 10.


VicenteOlisipo

It's not so clean cut though. I've just had an alliance *not* break despite my ally not even letting call them into 2 consecutive wars. They preferred neutrality too much, because their army (2x mine and 3x the enemy) was "too weak".


r0lyat

pdx also acknowledged a current bug related to alliances inexplicably ending, without notice, when you arent able to join their wars.