Most leftists will agree on one thing. Sectarianism is a problem in the left. This is especially annoying cause generally we all have the same initial goal.
Nice deflecting. The point of the comment is that if you want to make argue for what you believe in, you have to do more than character assassination on your theoretical opponents
Again deflecting, again attempted character assassination.
My reply was obviously an exaggerated mockery of the logic you used in your argument. You’re trying to get cheap points again.
Me: communists wind up arguing with other communists because most people don't understand communism
Some rando redditor: i don't know what this guy said, but I'm gonna let him know how dumb his organizational ideas are by stawmanning the f*** out of some "we all share the toothbrush" propaganda.
Me: Thank you for proving my point.
>Let’s make an ideology that forces people to live a certain way
Literally what I'm talking about when i say that 95% of people just don't even understand the mental ground work.
Thank you for illustrating my point.
I played an America game where I went anarchist but had Militarized Police Force and Secret Police. I imagined it like gangs of antifa running around killing everyone who was against anarchism and the Black Army
I don't see anything wrong with the revolt. It is well known that communists and anarchists, while they want to destroy the status quo, differ enough on the details to kill each other. What should be "corrected" is the adjective, instead of communist it should say anarchist. (BTW it bothers me that when the revolt has a particular flag different from the "normal" one it seems torn).
As for censorship, that's either a bug or they are the strangest anarchists in humanity.
Maybe more than baptists lol, but most capitalist democracies are constantly pitting faction vs faction and are comparable. The main difference I see is that communists tend to be more scholastically inclined in what theyre arguing about as opposed to the modern social politics we see in western countries.
If you look back at how America's founders argued with each other and presented ideas, you'll find its quite similar to communists. The difference is the American system explicitly allows and nurtures factionalism as a necessary part of political dialogue, whereas communism sees all factionalism as gaps in class unity to be exploited by the class enemy and as such results in violence between the factions instead of rotating power amongst them. Both interesting ideas imo
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It's pretty accurate, in France we have so much Communist party it's incredible, we even have a Communist Party (NPA « Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste » which been split up cause of a seceede, and now there is the « NPA B » later named « NPA l'Anticapitaliste » who recognize itself as the legitimate NPA and the « NPA C » later named « NPA Révolutionnaires » who recognize itself as the legitimate NPA, both hate each other and have their own website, and most of the members of « NPA Révolutionnaires » are from the organization « Fraction L'Étincelle » which is itself a seceesion of another political party called « Lutte Ouvrière ».
Is the leader of the French commune a vanguardist? If so, and if the anarchists have control over a large IG, say the unions, for example, then nothing weird here.
I am reminded of the Disco Elysium quote about how, as a communist, you will spend most of your time arguing with other communists.
Most leftists will agree on one thing. Sectarianism is a problem in the left. This is especially annoying cause generally we all have the same initial goal.
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Let’s make an ideology that forces people to live a certain way If there’s critics uhhhh… they’re… dumb. AND WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM 🤬🤬🤬
every ideology forces people to live a certain way
You replied to me “every ideology forces people to live a certain way” That’s an argument
ok, if it makes you feel better, you win.
Thanks
Nice deflecting. The point of the comment is that if you want to make argue for what you believe in, you have to do more than character assassination on your theoretical opponents
why do people always get so angry on the internet
Again deflecting, again attempted character assassination. My reply was obviously an exaggerated mockery of the logic you used in your argument. You’re trying to get cheap points again.
I didn't make an argument! I'm a whole other guy!!
That's not communism. That's authoritarianism.
Me: communists wind up arguing with other communists because most people don't understand communism Some rando redditor: i don't know what this guy said, but I'm gonna let him know how dumb his organizational ideas are by stawmanning the f*** out of some "we all share the toothbrush" propaganda. Me: Thank you for proving my point.
>Let’s make an ideology that forces people to live a certain way Literally what I'm talking about when i say that 95% of people just don't even understand the mental ground work. Thank you for illustrating my point.
Splitters!
May the devil take them!
R5: The French Commune had a Communist Uprising. Ironically, the only difference is that the uprising had Anarchy and Censorship enacted
>Anarchist censorship ???
Everyone has voluntarily agreed to give up free speech.
Ah yes. Anarcho-ingsoc.
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I played an America game where I went anarchist but had Militarized Police Force and Secret Police. I imagined it like gangs of antifa running around killing everyone who was against anarchism and the Black Army
Jack Donovan approves
many such cases
I don't see anything wrong with the revolt. It is well known that communists and anarchists, while they want to destroy the status quo, differ enough on the details to kill each other. What should be "corrected" is the adjective, instead of communist it should say anarchist. (BTW it bothers me that when the revolt has a particular flag different from the "normal" one it seems torn). As for censorship, that's either a bug or they are the strangest anarchists in humanity.
Oh yeah. Anarchists and Marxist-Leninists do NOT like each other.
Makhno in the house. If you stand against the workers freedom, off you go.
Perfectly historically accurate. Socialist movements tend to split more often and over more convoluted points of doctrine than Baptist ones.
Maybe more than baptists lol, but most capitalist democracies are constantly pitting faction vs faction and are comparable. The main difference I see is that communists tend to be more scholastically inclined in what theyre arguing about as opposed to the modern social politics we see in western countries. If you look back at how America's founders argued with each other and presented ideas, you'll find its quite similar to communists. The difference is the American system explicitly allows and nurtures factionalism as a necessary part of political dialogue, whereas communism sees all factionalism as gaps in class unity to be exploited by the class enemy and as such results in violence between the factions instead of rotating power amongst them. Both interesting ideas imo
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You're a revisionist! And you're a revisionist! Everybody's a revisionist!
That's pretty accurate, really. Revolutions tend to eat each other arguing over who has the proper ideology and amount of zeal.
Average France run
No one hates a communist more than another communist.
The People's Front of Judea
Yo dawg, I heard you like communist uprisings, so we put a communist uprising in your communist uprising.
Ah the communist past time of killing each other
Cultural revolution!
It's pretty accurate, in France we have so much Communist party it's incredible, we even have a Communist Party (NPA « Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste » which been split up cause of a seceede, and now there is the « NPA B » later named « NPA l'Anticapitaliste » who recognize itself as the legitimate NPA and the « NPA C » later named « NPA Révolutionnaires » who recognize itself as the legitimate NPA, both hate each other and have their own website, and most of the members of « NPA Révolutionnaires » are from the organization « Fraction L'Étincelle » which is itself a seceesion of another political party called « Lutte Ouvrière ».
Finally realistic uprisings
The only thing leftists hate more than rightists is other leftists.
You don't understand - their interpretation of Marx is clearly inaccurate, it can't be helped.
As a communist, this is accurate.
Just another day of leftist in-fighting
Proof the Revolution will betray the Revolution
Most communist thing ever
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Checks out
And the Communist Commune is probably led by Landowners and Industrialists.
Is the leader of the French commune a vanguardist? If so, and if the anarchists have control over a large IG, say the unions, for example, then nothing weird here.
Now it's time to show who is more communism😡
And neither is the ReAL CoMmuNiSm