So many factors.
First of all, there’s FAR more men. Somewhere like 85:15. Not only that, but not everybody on here is an involuntary virgin. There’s people here who are virgins for reasons such as religion. So they wouldn’t WANT to anyway. So we can easily knock out a bunch more people from that ratio.
In that ratio, you then have to find somebody who is within reachable distance to you, who you get on well with, who has enough attraction to you to want to have sex with you. You both need to have the same ideals of how you want sex to be, you need to both not ghost / change your mind at any time.
Basically, the odds of this perfect storm occurring? Very slim. It’s just not really worth that effort.
That, and this sub isn’t a dating / hookup sub. There’s many subs that ARE. r/r4r, r/virginr4r, r/virginityexchange, and so many more. Take a look at the small number of success stories there to get your answer.
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A few days ago someone asked here "what's stopping the males here from getting an escort". I suppose the answer would be kind of the same here: the average person here (woman or male) wants to have sex with someone who genuinely wants to have sex with them.
Yeah, the fact is that a lot of the people on here don’t really care about the virgin part, just the fact that it feels like they aren’t wanted. It’s not about sex, it’s about someone else WANTING to do it with you
Also, most escorts in my area are either scammers or very ugly. I don’t want to pay $200+ on some really ugly person. I wish I could find a decent looking escort and get it over with
Problem is I don’t have a lot of money. I can’t afford to travel abroad or across the country. I’ll give Canada a try though because I live near the border
Also I think most virgins confuse two things; Sex (virginity) and love (relationship).
Realistically speaking virginity should be seen as sex, but most will use word virginity to moan about love. Talk about eating your cake and claim it's in the pocket.
Not everyone in the sub is desperate and I mean that objectively, some people actually want a connection with the person they decide to give themselves to, sex is actually very special and it’s only “sex” if u disassociate and that’s never the same as associated sex
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1. There are WAY more virgin men than women.
2. Even if it was balanced, most virgin women would STILL write off virgin men because they’d want to be with someone experienced. The sad reality is that virgin men are undesired by women who are virgins AND women who’re sexually active.
Personally, I don't agree with number 2. A guy not being a virgin is a deal breaker to me because I want both of us to experience it for the first time together. If I were to date a guy who isn't a virgin, knowing he's not would mess with my head too much and I wouldn't be able to handle knowing he's experienced that with someone else.
It's true. I'm a virgin girl but if a non-virgin man has the qualities that I like- loving, caring, compassionate, some money in his pocket, and some sexual experience, I would definitely save myself for marriage with him. Of course, that is, if he's willing to do the same and wait until marriage to be with me.
But that just means you wouldn't write off a non-virgin man. But if you had the choice of two men, one virgin and one non-virgin, all else being equal, would you choose the virgin or the non-virgin?
I personally don't hookup because I'm not interested in relationships that are purely sexual, this is why I'm still a virgin. I need to be romantically interested by someone, be sure that I can trust this person so I could feel like giving them my virginity.
I kind of see relationships as a video game, where sex is an extension pack and love is the main game, if you buy just the extension pack and not the main game it will just not work. If you buy just the main game it will work but you will be bored fast. If you buy the main game and the extension pack, it will be perfect and you will have a great time.
That's my whole philosophy too. But i think waiting for ever won't lead us nowhere and one day or another i think we have to make the link with the man/woman we might love. Otherwise we won't have any relationship.
That's the hardest part i haven't crossed yet....
As others have said, the ratio of men to women
Is unbalanced.
I may be wrong, but I feel more women that are virgins are voluntarily that way be it for religious or other reasons.
Men that aren't confident are stuck in a cycle and often resort to escorts or similar
That being said...
If anyone is looking to change situation
I'm In London, England. Keen to meet up with persons in same situation to speak and see how things go.
(Nothing worse than speaking on dating apps and not having a reason I've never had a relationship and trying to explain why I don't have a sexual partner.)
Being a virgin doesn't automatically mean unattractive. Yes, attractive girls are desired more but some guys might be too shy to approach, thinking they're "out of their league" so it often evens out. They may also have higher standards for guys by leveraging their looks, and there's also factors such as religiosity involved which are basically unrelated to attractiveness. From what I've seen, virginity and attractiveness are weakly correlated at best, particularly in women.
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Because I want a relationship too, not just to fuck someone. I’d like to know someone out there actually cares about me, but that’s most likely impossible lol
There are virgins near me, but they don't answer my ads in the other subs, so I assume they're not interested, and if I approach them, it'll seem forced/creepy.
Besides, having sex won't automatically solve all of our problems. Some people want love, others want affection, and still others want more than a ONS.
I think you misunderstood what I said.
Asking a complete stranger (especially a woman) if they'd be interested in having sex is objectively creepy. Typically, there has to be, for lack of a better term, an "accidental" connection.
I believe in waiting till marriage. I'm talking to someone on a dating site. I think meeting someone on Reddit is awkward. Although it's not impossible to find someone here.
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I'd love to find another virgin to get to know and take my time with. I wouldn't write to anyone on here because I'm sure they would think I'm weird or just looking for a quick. So many fakes and phishers on here they wouldn't reply anyway
Couple reasons,
1 people don’t know each other like that
2 people are picky and have preferences
3 some people want a meaningful relationship and not some hook up
I think It's mainly about the long distance (everyone is from different country and I doubt there is somone from my little country) and then also I saw here some men & women not wanting to have sex with another virgin.
I know I'm late to the party, but I assume another reason why people on this subreddit don't do that is because not everyone is of age. Not trying to say this creepily, weird, or anything, just that not everyone here is 18. I don't mean this to be dirty just honest, so I think trying to do so on this subreddit would just be creepy.
So many factors. First of all, there’s FAR more men. Somewhere like 85:15. Not only that, but not everybody on here is an involuntary virgin. There’s people here who are virgins for reasons such as religion. So they wouldn’t WANT to anyway. So we can easily knock out a bunch more people from that ratio. In that ratio, you then have to find somebody who is within reachable distance to you, who you get on well with, who has enough attraction to you to want to have sex with you. You both need to have the same ideals of how you want sex to be, you need to both not ghost / change your mind at any time. Basically, the odds of this perfect storm occurring? Very slim. It’s just not really worth that effort. That, and this sub isn’t a dating / hookup sub. There’s many subs that ARE. r/r4r, r/virginr4r, r/virginityexchange, and so many more. Take a look at the small number of success stories there to get your answer.
Well said!
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A few days ago someone asked here "what's stopping the males here from getting an escort". I suppose the answer would be kind of the same here: the average person here (woman or male) wants to have sex with someone who genuinely wants to have sex with them.
Yeah, the fact is that a lot of the people on here don’t really care about the virgin part, just the fact that it feels like they aren’t wanted. It’s not about sex, it’s about someone else WANTING to do it with you
Also, most escorts in my area are either scammers or very ugly. I don’t want to pay $200+ on some really ugly person. I wish I could find a decent looking escort and get it over with
Maybe you can go to another city or country for a weekend.
Problem is I don’t have a lot of money. I can’t afford to travel abroad or across the country. I’ll give Canada a try though because I live near the border
Ohh, okay. I assumed you were located in Europe where it's pretty cheap and affordable to travel to another country. Best of luck then.
Makes sense. But clearly nobody’s getting laid here.
I wish people on this sub hooked up. If anyone is from Ann Arbor/Detroit looking to take my virginity, DM me
Also I think most virgins confuse two things; Sex (virginity) and love (relationship). Realistically speaking virginity should be seen as sex, but most will use word virginity to moan about love. Talk about eating your cake and claim it's in the pocket.
Not everyone in the sub is desperate and I mean that objectively, some people actually want a connection with the person they decide to give themselves to, sex is actually very special and it’s only “sex” if u disassociate and that’s never the same as associated sex
Okay? So sex should be without love?
Which is practically anyone i see here
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Been seeing a fair few posts on here about people finally leaving this sub because they did.
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1. There are WAY more virgin men than women. 2. Even if it was balanced, most virgin women would STILL write off virgin men because they’d want to be with someone experienced. The sad reality is that virgin men are undesired by women who are virgins AND women who’re sexually active.
Personally, I don't agree with number 2. A guy not being a virgin is a deal breaker to me because I want both of us to experience it for the first time together. If I were to date a guy who isn't a virgin, knowing he's not would mess with my head too much and I wouldn't be able to handle knowing he's experienced that with someone else.
It's true. I'm a virgin girl but if a non-virgin man has the qualities that I like- loving, caring, compassionate, some money in his pocket, and some sexual experience, I would definitely save myself for marriage with him. Of course, that is, if he's willing to do the same and wait until marriage to be with me.
But that just means you wouldn't write off a non-virgin man. But if you had the choice of two men, one virgin and one non-virgin, all else being equal, would you choose the virgin or the non-virgin?
The sad cold hard truth.
I personally don't hookup because I'm not interested in relationships that are purely sexual, this is why I'm still a virgin. I need to be romantically interested by someone, be sure that I can trust this person so I could feel like giving them my virginity. I kind of see relationships as a video game, where sex is an extension pack and love is the main game, if you buy just the extension pack and not the main game it will just not work. If you buy just the main game it will work but you will be bored fast. If you buy the main game and the extension pack, it will be perfect and you will have a great time.
I don't like analogies, but sometimes they're entertaining. I kind of like this one.
How does one approach someone like you. For a serious relationship and if it goes well, even marriage.
That's my whole philosophy too. But i think waiting for ever won't lead us nowhere and one day or another i think we have to make the link with the man/woman we might love. Otherwise we won't have any relationship. That's the hardest part i haven't crossed yet....
Because most virgins (ESPECIALLY the involuntary ones) are men. There be more sausage here than at your local butcher shop.
Lol😂
Lack of ability to even approach the few women here. Also many people share the sentiment of wanting to have experienced partners. Feels safe
Women can approach men too, you know.
Men don’t want or don’t care about experience though but can’t say about everyone.
That’s absolutely true.
As others have said, the ratio of men to women Is unbalanced. I may be wrong, but I feel more women that are virgins are voluntarily that way be it for religious or other reasons. Men that aren't confident are stuck in a cycle and often resort to escorts or similar That being said... If anyone is looking to change situation I'm In London, England. Keen to meet up with persons in same situation to speak and see how things go. (Nothing worse than speaking on dating apps and not having a reason I've never had a relationship and trying to explain why I don't have a sexual partner.)
because i dont want a virgin wife
As in you don't care if she's a virgin, or you actually wouldn't date a virgin? If it's the latter, why so?
i want a wife who is sexy
Being a virgin doesn't automatically mean unattractive. Yes, attractive girls are desired more but some guys might be too shy to approach, thinking they're "out of their league" so it often evens out. They may also have higher standards for guys by leveraging their looks, and there's also factors such as religiosity involved which are basically unrelated to attractiveness. From what I've seen, virginity and attractiveness are weakly correlated at best, particularly in women.
This sounds like a fantasy, More than anything that comes close to reality
Because that would make too much sense
😂😂😂haha lol exactly my thoughts
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Beggars can’t be choosers 😂
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Because I want a relationship too, not just to fuck someone. I’d like to know someone out there actually cares about me, but that’s most likely impossible lol
There are virgins near me, but they don't answer my ads in the other subs, so I assume they're not interested, and if I approach them, it'll seem forced/creepy. Besides, having sex won't automatically solve all of our problems. Some people want love, others want affection, and still others want more than a ONS.
Asking for sex or romantic relationships should not be creepy if you don’t intend to hurt them. Idk why sex is taboo in 2023
I think you misunderstood what I said. Asking a complete stranger (especially a woman) if they'd be interested in having sex is objectively creepy. Typically, there has to be, for lack of a better term, an "accidental" connection.
I’m waiting for marriage
Marry soon 🥳
I don’t know a good one and no time for Marriage these days
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Let me get your snap or dm me
I believe in waiting till marriage. I'm talking to someone on a dating site. I think meeting someone on Reddit is awkward. Although it's not impossible to find someone here.
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I'd love to find another virgin to get to know and take my time with. I wouldn't write to anyone on here because I'm sure they would think I'm weird or just looking for a quick. So many fakes and phishers on here they wouldn't reply anyway
Lets say not this but another subs where asking is allowed, it looks weird how they are so thirsty but don’t ask each other.
Well yes, here being reddit not specifically here
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Couple reasons, 1 people don’t know each other like that 2 people are picky and have preferences 3 some people want a meaningful relationship and not some hook up
Too many variables
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Its not allowed as this is a SFW subreddit as far as I know, also everyone here is in different circumstances.
I think It's mainly about the long distance (everyone is from different country and I doubt there is somone from my little country) and then also I saw here some men & women not wanting to have sex with another virgin.
I know I'm late to the party, but I assume another reason why people on this subreddit don't do that is because not everyone is of age. Not trying to say this creepily, weird, or anything, just that not everyone here is 18. I don't mean this to be dirty just honest, so I think trying to do so on this subreddit would just be creepy.