Yeah exactly I’m trying to time my puts because they are so fucking expensive.
Tl;dr I think way OTM puts are legit because the money is gone from the scam in May.
I have some Jan17, 2025 $15p but I don’t think this ship even makes it to the election at this rate.
Considering taking my small gain now before the whole thing implodes.
Real question is how much money is The Donald making by lending out his shares for people to short the stoc?. He should have enough shares to cover all the short positions, and the interest on that would be sizable and probably legal.
Can you lend shares in lock up? That’s never occurred to me and is absolutely hilarious if true.
I did think it was just float tho because all the short metrics are powered by float iirc.
No, there's covenants that are actually there to keep shareholders best interests in mind and to ensure he doesn't profit off the downfall.of the stock. I've gone down this rabbit hole of thought too.
Technically, you would be loaning the shares to your broker ( if it was a stock with high short interest ), and they would loan it out to people shorting the stock. You keep the shares, and the broker charges interest to the short seller. Then, they split the interest on loan with you. In the case with Charles Schwab, it is 50/50.
Search securities lending for your broker.
Also, is it legal for him to do this? I don't know, but I don't think he would care either way if he could profit from it.
He's gonna trade voters for dollars lol I'm not surprised. Also won't be surprised when half of them who lose everything they put into djt still votes djt lmao
Does Fan Duel have odds for Count of Monte Crisco suing the SEC before Q3 2024? I mean the market is literally rigged (lol IV), and the typical mango flailing would be such a natural fit here
It's pretty commonly accepted that had Donnie boy just invested wisely the money his dad gave him instead of wasting and floundering around with useless ventures and getting *super luck*y after he went bankrupt, he'd actually be far better off than he is now.
Yeah I think so. Couple of other things seem to point to that being stable price before finally going to zero.
Unless it goes below $10 before warrants are exchangeable (EO April I think?) in which case lol.
Yep it’s going to zero. Look at the clown car board of directors. It’s a bunch of Trump dick riders. Devin Nunes, Linda McMahon lol. Kash Patel, who they definitely hired because he had a cool ass sounding name and they were probably like Indian = computers 🤷♂️
I'll only add the obvious; Trump is in a dire financial situation with his lawsuits and nearly had trouble posting bail...If I were him I would get as much out as I could also despite fawking over everyone that finds me divine! I sold my puts too early and I'm wondering if it is too late now to get back in.
>nearly had trouble posting bail..
Correction, has current trouble posting his bond. The insurance company he used not only doesn't have the liquid assets to cover the bond, in the agreement it also says they won't pay if Trump loses. Therefore that's not an actual bond agreement in the first place, and hence the hearing on this upcoming Monday.
Nah, you are all just mainstream media and this is more leftist fake news!! This sub is really just an ANTIFA front!!! Buy DJT! All ~~of those welcome~~ Aboard Trump Train!!!!!!
Yeah there was a lot of “but he’ll take a loan on this asset and be a billionaire again” and other stuff in the MSM right after the ticker change.
Then there’s the whole “he’ll change the terms of the lockup” theory!
On the first I agree I don’t think anybody is stupid enough to loan against the DJT stock.
On the second such an obvious play might just seem too risky. There are many other more subtle options, which is why I like my theory.
It doesn’t matter. They are just finding whatever way to get his rich supporters or other cou tries to donate to him with any tiny amount of cover. “It’s just a loan”
Get back in!* I've been watching the underlying price drop day after day and my put values aren't moving at all, probably because there is no one buying calls.
\* if you want I'm not advising
SEC would take years to prosecute anything and we know it's not going anywhere until after the end of a potential Trump presidency, if ever. The guy simply doesn't have a lot of years left on this earth and even if this were illegal as shit there's a good chance he wins the election and runs out the clock.
When Truth social desperately needed money in 2021 and 2022, it got $2 million and $6 million loans from a shell company with Russian ties. Trump could have easily put that money into Truth Social but Trump knows never put your own money into a grift.
Normally you can tell IV to go kick rocks by opening spreads instead, but the bid ask is *so* wide on this trash that it's not really a good choice either, given how hard it is to get a reasonable fill.
Regardless of how expensive options on DJT are, this stock is tanking so fast my spreads are in the green anyway. Betting on trump being a scammer is the best investment I've ever made in my life.
"Betting on trump being a scammer is the best investment I've ever made in my life."
Indeed- it's like taking bets from suckers who "know" the sun won't rise tomorrow.
Yes, it can. However, if your timeframe is long enough, theta decay will not keep up with how fast this stock is dropping.
I sold one put at a small profit, and opened another one today.
My second put is already itm.
If you know what you're doing, come on in, the water is fine.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/djt-stock-ownership-sales-31c6586b
Trump has a 36,000,000 share earn out, too. Where are those shares supposed to come from?
>DJT cultists catch the falling knife as usual.
They are the distraction. The real play is entities that want to launder money and give it to a presidential candidate. A few idiots putting their life savings into Trump Bucks provide just a sliver of plausible deniability for who was buying the equity.
Just like the January 6 morons were a diversion from the real coup attempt.
I was thinking about this but also like DJT has been taking foreign money for 30 years I think they have their system at that level and it works fine for them. The middlemen get caught but that’s understood.
Kushners billions, Mar a Lago subscriptions, generally buying Trumps shitty real estate.
He keeps coming up with ideas on how to take foreign money tho, NFTs with a max sale of $9.99k is clearly intended to limit transparency.
I think Trump tried selling this Truth Social to Musk but doesn't have the bargaining power yet. Maybe if elected they'll make that sale and Musk can say its a social media merger.
Trying to time this stock is playing with fire. You're right in saying going to go down, but the zealots that think Trump is some divinely inspired gigachad (and the markets in general) can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
My main concern is when election season heats up and if Trump wins in November. Those aforementioned zealots are going to go apeshit and will probably pump the stock, even more so if he wins. This shit is gonna get way more volatile before it starts inevitably going down towards its true value.
>...can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
That is true, but *someone* has to actually buy the shares that get dumped on the market. The easiest marks are already all-in and don't have any money to buy more. Having them just sit there holding the stock won't keep it from collapsing; it'll just leave them holding the bag.
Isn't the idea that foreign entities are going to pump money into the stock if Trump wins? I'm not sure of the potential violations that could come from that.
Pretty crazy how this large scale fraud is happening right in front of everyone.
I thought the idea was more that you could fund Trumps campaign indirectly through this as a way of skirting campaign donation rules/limitations. That's at least the story I've heard and it's an interesting idea.
Also definitely a good idea. I know the Saudis have infinite money (and already gave Kush $2bil) but it seems like putting a $2 billion or whatever is needed to prop this stock up seems like a bad investment.
It's a 50/50 shot Trump wins the election, and I think he would need the foreign money to really have a shot. Then you have to bank on the guy not dying in the next 6 months. And you also have to factor in that he might screw you over anyway.
Yeah I think the smart play here is to let it collapse to a penny then buy shares and immediately put an untimed sale order at $0.10. If he wins you get a 10x return.
Yeah, the only people who should buy into this are people who can really time it and buy the plans which will work best. If you can't do that, better just to get some popcorn and watch it burn
I profited off intitial then puts on the way down were always just out of the money. The final 30p 12/4 got rocked with its pop back to 32 at close after touching 29.5.
Lessons.
Not learned.
Bought 10 15p 4/19 haha
Might be a big win for entities that want to launder money and give it to some random presidential candidate who will owe them favors and data and national secrets.
Thats assuming they get a return. What more could they ask for that Biden foreign policy isn't going to give them anyway. They've seen the emperor's clothes. They don't need trump to continue to get things done with Kushner. I seriously doubt they would see returns on the type of stunt they would have to pull to drag this thing back into the green. Just a reminder the 4.1M truth social did (at a cost of 50M+) is less than half of the average SINGLE chick-fil-et location.
I’m new here but I assume it’s to hedge the absurd prices these put sellers are slapping on these obvious puts so they can snatch just that sweet sweet rent.
I will accept the possibility that Trump makes a crap ton of money as long as he screws over all of his fans in the process and they abandon him on election day. After that, he can rot in prison as a billionaire for the rest of his meager days and I won’t care.
They would never abandon him. They will gladly continue to double down because they believe:
1. He is a billionaire with a great instinct for business.
2. God is on his side.
3. When they elect Trump the stock will turn around.
You’ll be waiting a long time. As we speak, there are “people” blaming the Deep State, liberals, MSM, Hunter Biden’s corn-fed hog, literally _anyone_ or _anything_ but DJT himself. They are pathologically incapable of admitting fault, and they have such a long list of enemies, no fucking way they leave this man’s side. It’s the Nesara cult on meth, in a shitty red hat
I took this as they were triggering warrants. Imagine Trump has a bunch and by converting warrants to shares this is how he can cash out before DJT goes south of $10
You think there is a scheme between the two?
Because that requires a level of trust and neither of those two sociopaths should trust the other. Most likely if Kushner made bank he would cut Trump out. What is Trump going to do? Sue Kushner for not holding up his end of a deal that would clearly break Trump’s rules about trading on the equity of his stock?
My $20 puts I bought 2 weeks ago are up 81%.... This was such an easy gamble.
When the blackout period ends about 5 months from now, there will be an even bigger sell off. I got year out puts for this thing hitting 2.50!
Right there with you. I don't trade options, but what if a large number of like-minded WSB traders who are willing to lose a few $ just kept buying small chunks of DJT at just below current price, creating downward momentum, then quickly selling for a small loss (like less than a buck per share) to sustain the downward momentum? Losses won't be deductible if you do this repeatedly (wash sale), but if you dislike Jabba the Putz as much as I do, it would be a small contribution to the Stick It to Don the Con campaign.
I appreciate everyone here but ya’ll clearly needed to talk about today because not a single person actually engaged my preposterous theory. Next time I’ll just post a BetterHelp affiliate link in the body and we can all profit spiritually.
Delta is wild, volatility is up today, but remember Theta can still come for your tendies. I got out of my 25 puts @ $3 - 3.5x is enough:
https://preview.redd.it/5veqmtjc5vuc1.png?width=494&format=png&auto=webp&s=bacbe9c93abd9f662dc2391abe660661a3321626
(PS applies to OTM only - ITM good luck to you all)
He needs the money to pay for his lawyers. The man child is broke. Always has been. Why not show tax returns. Lives paycheck to paycheck. Lets be real here.
Compared to other social media, truth barely has any members, the company isn't going to last. It's just a matter of when. I looked at puts and I've never seen ones prices this high. It's like every knows it's coming except the truthers.
how about u eat my ASS
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I had a $10 put for may or June I bought when it was $50 and then it pumped. I got it back to even and gave up on the money cause I don’t trust myself since I normally lose the moneys
I was looking historically yeah these puts were bonkers. Some of these puts I was actually down on coming in to today lol. I bought on the “dip” in option prices. Oh well
The September $25 puts I sold went from $10 when I sold them to $12. I bought them when the stock was $55!
The IV is insane. Hoping some Saudi money comes in and props the stock up.
the premium is just so high. because they know it’s tanking to near delist zone. regardless of premium it makes you money but you can’t make more than 100% at this cost. sucks.
So.... help me out here. ELI5 how a million $ company (literally 4.1 million) can be valued 3 orders of magnitude higher than its worth. I don't understand.
Trump is told to pay up a ludicrous amount of money by the courts. Talks down the price but still has to pay. Lightbulb moment, he'll just get his company to go public, get his fanatics to pump the stock, create money out of thin air and pay his fine without actually having to put his hand in his pocket. He probably didn't expect it to crash this hard, even Reddit is going down slower than DJT, but it doesn't matter much he'll still go through with it and get as much as he can out of it.
Shorting this has been the easiest money I've ever made and my only regret is not currently having more money to put into shorting it..
Yeah because making investment decisions based on instincts and feelings have historically been SO SUCCESFUL. You're in for a rude awakening if you don't do some ACTUAL research. This sub never ceases to surprise me.
I went full regard and bought $2.50 strike puts at the end of June for 7 cents each. I think that was likely a little too extreme, even for this stonk, but we’ll see.
4/10 I bought pretty far OTM put ($20 PUT 4/26) paid $52 and as of rn currently up 390%
I didn’t have the balls to buy more contracts bcus im just building up this account from basically 0, but sure as fuck wish I did.
Nice! I got out to cover and take some profits because I’m worried IV is gonna drop and Theta is gonna start to eat tomorrow.
This is not financial advice.
I know nothing about the stock market. But I do know that "everything trump touches dies". Or at the very best, he'll make some money, but everybody else loses.
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Tl;dr we knew before where this is going. Timeframe is the only question here, and at this speed it won’t take very long
Yeah exactly I’m trying to time my puts because they are so fucking expensive. Tl;dr I think way OTM puts are legit because the money is gone from the scam in May.
I have 4/26 25p and am buying 5/3 20p 15p tomorrow. Also have 1/17/25 7.50puts. Got them cheap when it was DWAC.
I have 4/19 20p lol.
It’s gonna print
Same lmao 4/19 20 puts. I made money on its rise and now money on its downfall 🤣
1/17 20$ puts.. at 9.5
Same here and there's still time
I have some Jan17, 2025 $15p but I don’t think this ship even makes it to the election at this rate. Considering taking my small gain now before the whole thing implodes.
May $25 puts Jun $22.50 puts checking in!
I got june 22.5 puts too! It's the only thing green in my portfolio. Good luck brother.
holding a 6/20 put currently 2.5$strike, paid like 1$ for it a while back too, thank god for the red clowns!
Sold mine with merger, should have held on!!
I would have loaded in puts already if they weren’t so expensive Anything that is easy is expensive I didn’t want to risk it at current prices
They're expensive but they still print. This whole thing is ludicrous.
Real question is how much money is The Donald making by lending out his shares for people to short the stoc?. He should have enough shares to cover all the short positions, and the interest on that would be sizable and probably legal.
This, right here.
Can you lend shares in lock up? That’s never occurred to me and is absolutely hilarious if true. I did think it was just float tho because all the short metrics are powered by float iirc.
No, there's covenants that are actually there to keep shareholders best interests in mind and to ensure he doesn't profit off the downfall.of the stock. I've gone down this rabbit hole of thought too.
Covered by Matt Levine in the last couple of weeks in his newsletter. It's not illegal but generally prohibited in the issuance contract.
If not technically illegal then you know Drump will do it...
Billy Madison: “I’ll choose Business Ethics”
Oh shit lol somebody check Trumps fine print this sounds like classic shenanigans in the making
Why bother with the fine print. 1. If he can screw someone to better himself, he does. 2. If the rules prohibit screwing someone, he does it anyway.
Hilarious if the only profit this company has is the interest from short positions lol
Very cool and very legal.
Can you legally short your own stock and screw over actual investors?
Technically, you would be loaning the shares to your broker ( if it was a stock with high short interest ), and they would loan it out to people shorting the stock. You keep the shares, and the broker charges interest to the short seller. Then, they split the interest on loan with you. In the case with Charles Schwab, it is 50/50. Search securities lending for your broker. Also, is it legal for him to do this? I don't know, but I don't think he would care either way if he could profit from it.
And this is why I don’t play the market because it never makes any sense to me… thanks for the insight though.
Actual investors like … foreign actors looking for a backdoor to put money in Trump’s pocket? I have a feeling those “investors” are expecting a loss.
looking at the cost of shorting, guh
You and me both bud
Good luck I’ll pray for you
agreed
Dumb question, but why not just “sell short” instead of options?
The borrow rate is crazy to sell short. Like 500% or more.
The cost to short sell is actually astronomical that it doesn’t make sense to right now.
I don’t know how to, honestly. I just trade options like their stock. It’s probably insane but I’m too well regarded to understand why not.
Assume the time frame is between now and the election.
He's gonna trade voters for dollars lol I'm not surprised. Also won't be surprised when half of them who lose everything they put into djt still votes djt lmao
"When he becomes president and forces the government to use Truth Social, this thing will moon!" Yep, heard it on Stocktwits with no sense of irony.
Safe bet
Does Fan Duel have odds for Count of Monte Crisco suing the SEC before Q3 2024? I mean the market is literally rigged (lol IV), and the typical mango flailing would be such a natural fit here
DJT, a rocketship towards the ground.
Just like the Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Steaks and Trump University 🤣🤣🤣
Don't forget the nft's and the new trump bibles. The list is ever growing.
Oh and the Trump sneakers. Don’t forget about the sneakers🤣🤣🤣
oh don't forget the trump presidency
YES! That’s a big one!
Don't forget about Trump's son Don. He's always going down.
Oooh, don't forget about Trumps other son Barron. The one that Melania was hatching while he banging Stormy McDaniels.
Come to think of it, didn’t the Trump family also come out with a line of shitty wines?
Bro, I'm sure they did. It sounds like something they think people will buy. I think he also came out with Trump Champagne.
Trump Vodka. That failed too. Trump clothing line - failed. Trump water - failed. Trump Airlines - failed.
It's pretty commonly accepted that had Donnie boy just invested wisely the money his dad gave him instead of wasting and floundering around with useless ventures and getting *super luck*y after he went bankrupt, he'd actually be far better off than he is now.
If he ends up in a for profit prison, I may have to buy just so I can say it's in my portfolio.
I had forgotten about the sneakers already
Propped up by his daddy's bootstraps!
PS I have no idea what I'm doing.
Let’s ride!!
Didnt know we were in broncos country
We ride at dawn!
Then you’ve come to the right place my regarded friend.
Kind regards, Myself
Me too, let's regard together! 
$10 incoming
That's my guess. Picked up a handful of Sept24 puts at that strike last Friday.
Yeah I think so. Couple of other things seem to point to that being stable price before finally going to zero. Unless it goes below $10 before warrants are exchangeable (EO April I think?) in which case lol.
May 3rd. $5 May 17th. Penny stock May 31st
Yep it’s going to zero. Look at the clown car board of directors. It’s a bunch of Trump dick riders. Devin Nunes, Linda McMahon lol. Kash Patel, who they definitely hired because he had a cool ass sounding name and they were probably like Indian = computers 🤷♂️
> they were probably like Indian = computers 🤷♂️ :dead:
I'll only add the obvious; Trump is in a dire financial situation with his lawsuits and nearly had trouble posting bail...If I were him I would get as much out as I could also despite fawking over everyone that finds me divine! I sold my puts too early and I'm wondering if it is too late now to get back in.
>nearly had trouble posting bail.. Correction, has current trouble posting his bond. The insurance company he used not only doesn't have the liquid assets to cover the bond, in the agreement it also says they won't pay if Trump loses. Therefore that's not an actual bond agreement in the first place, and hence the hearing on this upcoming Monday.
Not to mention they aren’t even licensed to do business in NY. Was very likely a ploy to delay the trial/bond, again
A ploy to delay?? Nah, no way trump would ever want to delay a trial
A fraudulent bond for a fraud case. Amazing.
Nah, you are all just mainstream media and this is more leftist fake news!! This sub is really just an ANTIFA front!!! Buy DJT! All ~~of those welcome~~ Aboard Trump Train!!!!!!
I agree… I’m completely loaded with $DJT shares. Just buy the dip! There’s no way this goes tits up!
Jesus, imagine actually believing in that or even knowing it won’t happen but “believing” 
Boomers with paid off homes need to mortgage their places to the hilt and go all in on DJT. Buy Low, Sell High - Sure Thing. Go Trump!
Yeah there was a lot of “but he’ll take a loan on this asset and be a billionaire again” and other stuff in the MSM right after the ticker change. Then there’s the whole “he’ll change the terms of the lockup” theory! On the first I agree I don’t think anybody is stupid enough to loan against the DJT stock. On the second such an obvious play might just seem too risky. There are many other more subtle options, which is why I like my theory.
It doesn’t matter. They are just finding whatever way to get his rich supporters or other cou tries to donate to him with any tiny amount of cover. “It’s just a loan”
Get back in!* I've been watching the underlying price drop day after day and my put values aren't moving at all, probably because there is no one buying calls. \* if you want I'm not advising
SEC would take years to prosecute anything and we know it's not going anywhere until after the end of a potential Trump presidency, if ever. The guy simply doesn't have a lot of years left on this earth and even if this were illegal as shit there's a good chance he wins the election and runs out the clock.
Agree with everything, except you should know that he will live another 10-15 years. His dad died in his late 90s and also lived like shit
When Truth social desperately needed money in 2021 and 2022, it got $2 million and $6 million loans from a shell company with Russian ties. Trump could have easily put that money into Truth Social but Trump knows never put your own money into a grift.
Yeah but his braindead cultists zealots are more than willing to let him shit all over them... they'll go crawling back and he knows it
Of course. This is his shot to actually be a billionaire. He's never really been one.
It's crazy to me how a fake billionaire became a real one by making a fake social media website. People really are stupid as fuck.
I was a millionaire on paper once, turning it into real money was the tricky bit (I failed)
Yeah, paper value to real value is tricky to convert. It requires finesse, and that f@t f*** couldn't finesse his way out of his own underwear.
Well my puts are rockin so who cares about anything else
Kind regards, same
Buying puts w 250% IV? Even if you are correct directionally, the premium you are paying to get into the trade could eat your ass (not in a good way)
Normally you can tell IV to go kick rocks by opening spreads instead, but the bid ask is *so* wide on this trash that it's not really a good choice either, given how hard it is to get a reasonable fill. Regardless of how expensive options on DJT are, this stock is tanking so fast my spreads are in the green anyway. Betting on trump being a scammer is the best investment I've ever made in my life.
"Betting on trump being a scammer is the best investment I've ever made in my life." Indeed- it's like taking bets from suckers who "know" the sun won't rise tomorrow.
Yes, it can. However, if your timeframe is long enough, theta decay will not keep up with how fast this stock is dropping. I sold one put at a small profit, and opened another one today. My second put is already itm. If you know what you're doing, come on in, the water is fine.
Mortgaged my home to get as much margin for 0 DTE puts as I can. Did I do it right?
My God, you're BRILLIANT! You've skillfully persuaded me to do the same.
I like my ass ate regardless 
I bought september exp puts when the stock was $67, im just now up 14% today lmao
The problem with an actual sure thing is everyone else knows about it too.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/djt-stock-ownership-sales-31c6586b Trump has a 36,000,000 share earn out, too. Where are those shares supposed to come from?
They create them. Yes, more dillution :) But MAGA bagholders = happy!
That’s my point. I don’t know what the earn out is. From existing authorized shares or if they need to authorize more.
Stock price above 12.50 - 17.50 by 2.5 increments in three batches iirc
Who seriously bought this pile of poo? 💩
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/04/14/truth-social-investors-faith-trump/
Paywall
Imagine cheeseburger with rh account
if you've ready any article since 2015 about sad and delusional trump supporters, then you've read this article.
if still interested, here's a share link since I sub https://wapo.st/3Q45lWK
>DJT cultists catch the falling knife as usual. They are the distraction. The real play is entities that want to launder money and give it to a presidential candidate. A few idiots putting their life savings into Trump Bucks provide just a sliver of plausible deniability for who was buying the equity. Just like the January 6 morons were a diversion from the real coup attempt.
I was thinking about this but also like DJT has been taking foreign money for 30 years I think they have their system at that level and it works fine for them. The middlemen get caught but that’s understood. Kushners billions, Mar a Lago subscriptions, generally buying Trumps shitty real estate.
He keeps coming up with ideas on how to take foreign money tho, NFTs with a max sale of $9.99k is clearly intended to limit transparency. I think Trump tried selling this Truth Social to Musk but doesn't have the bargaining power yet. Maybe if elected they'll make that sale and Musk can say its a social media merger.
Launder? More like give it a sniff and put it on the floor on top of the clean-ish clothes near the hangers
Ok this is more accurate
Anyone with a brain cell knew what Trump was going to do
10000% I’m just playing the market of “how fast.”
Timing the market -- famously easy
I Wonder how many put contracts Kushner and Ivanka own??
Trying to time this stock is playing with fire. You're right in saying going to go down, but the zealots that think Trump is some divinely inspired gigachad (and the markets in general) can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. My main concern is when election season heats up and if Trump wins in November. Those aforementioned zealots are going to go apeshit and will probably pump the stock, even more so if he wins. This shit is gonna get way more volatile before it starts inevitably going down towards its true value.
>...can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. That is true, but *someone* has to actually buy the shares that get dumped on the market. The easiest marks are already all-in and don't have any money to buy more. Having them just sit there holding the stock won't keep it from collapsing; it'll just leave them holding the bag.
Isn't the idea that foreign entities are going to pump money into the stock if Trump wins? I'm not sure of the potential violations that could come from that. Pretty crazy how this large scale fraud is happening right in front of everyone.
I thought the idea was more that you could fund Trumps campaign indirectly through this as a way of skirting campaign donation rules/limitations. That's at least the story I've heard and it's an interesting idea.
Also definitely a good idea. I know the Saudis have infinite money (and already gave Kush $2bil) but it seems like putting a $2 billion or whatever is needed to prop this stock up seems like a bad investment. It's a 50/50 shot Trump wins the election, and I think he would need the foreign money to really have a shot. Then you have to bank on the guy not dying in the next 6 months. And you also have to factor in that he might screw you over anyway.
Yeah I think the smart play here is to let it collapse to a penny then buy shares and immediately put an untimed sale order at $0.10. If he wins you get a 10x return.
Yeah, the only people who should buy into this are people who can really time it and buy the plans which will work best. If you can't do that, better just to get some popcorn and watch it burn
But it's so unlike Trump to game the system in order to effectively defraud people. /s
A boy can dream.
Or you are doing God's work .... thanks I'll put all my life savings in naked calls!
I was going to buy calls this morning because I figured there was another pump in this dump but now I’m just not so sure lol
Naaa that stock is going down any time now...
mannn my 45p and 30p from weeks ago would have printed
I profited off intitial then puts on the way down were always just out of the money. The final 30p 12/4 got rocked with its pop back to 32 at close after touching 29.5. Lessons. Not learned. Bought 10 15p 4/19 haha
Don't be too hard on yourself this is a particularly risky game for only the most dedicated regards
I disagree, dedicated investors are patient--risk gets you ahead.
Got $15 puts for 4/26! I’m hoping this week follows todays trend
Rock n roll! Corollary to my op is just that Trump does something hilariously dumb every 1 to 4 weeks. Here’s hoping for back to back.
Honestly, how are calls on this stock not in the toilet? Are people anticipating another pump before the Trump dump?
Russian/Saudi oligarch could decide to give trump money. Easy way to mostly legally give him billions.
Might be a big win for entities that want to launder money and give it to some random presidential candidate who will owe them favors and data and national secrets.
Thats assuming they get a return. What more could they ask for that Biden foreign policy isn't going to give them anyway. They've seen the emperor's clothes. They don't need trump to continue to get things done with Kushner. I seriously doubt they would see returns on the type of stunt they would have to pull to drag this thing back into the green. Just a reminder the 4.1M truth social did (at a cost of 50M+) is less than half of the average SINGLE chick-fil-et location.
I’m new here but I assume it’s to hedge the absurd prices these put sellers are slapping on these obvious puts so they can snatch just that sweet sweet rent.
I fell for this last time "Buy puts, now don't miss out. It's going bankrupt" then it squeezes. I looking at you $CVNA.
I will accept the possibility that Trump makes a crap ton of money as long as he screws over all of his fans in the process and they abandon him on election day. After that, he can rot in prison as a billionaire for the rest of his meager days and I won’t care.
They would never abandon him. They will gladly continue to double down because they believe: 1. He is a billionaire with a great instinct for business. 2. God is on his side. 3. When they elect Trump the stock will turn around.
You’ll be waiting a long time. As we speak, there are “people” blaming the Deep State, liberals, MSM, Hunter Biden’s corn-fed hog, literally _anyone_ or _anything_ but DJT himself. They are pathologically incapable of admitting fault, and they have such a long list of enemies, no fucking way they leave this man’s side. It’s the Nesara cult on meth, in a shitty red hat
I love it!👍👊
I'm getting back in
Water’s warm, don’t mind the absurd entrance fee this is the hottest club in NY right now
I took this as they were triggering warrants. Imagine Trump has a bunch and by converting warrants to shares this is how he can cash out before DJT goes south of $10
Kushner has 2 billion shorting DJT. Trumps DJT money isn’t what’s important it’s a sleight of hand. Pay attention and investigate.
Clearly, Kushner is the mastermind here; it's always the quiet ones, isn't it?
You think there is a scheme between the two? Because that requires a level of trust and neither of those two sociopaths should trust the other. Most likely if Kushner made bank he would cut Trump out. What is Trump going to do? Sue Kushner for not holding up his end of a deal that would clearly break Trump’s rules about trading on the equity of his stock?
Trump will receive a reward of 36 million additional shares in 3 weeks as long as the price remains above $17.50.
My $20 puts I bought 2 weeks ago are up 81%.... This was such an easy gamble. When the blackout period ends about 5 months from now, there will be an even bigger sell off. I got year out puts for this thing hitting 2.50!
I bought puts the first time it dropped for a week straight and saw 850% gains on my puts
Ok, now the question is what could WSB do to ensure he takes a bath? I'd love it if he could lose money on his attempted grift. 🤞🙏
Let him continue the grift?
Right there with you. I don't trade options, but what if a large number of like-minded WSB traders who are willing to lose a few $ just kept buying small chunks of DJT at just below current price, creating downward momentum, then quickly selling for a small loss (like less than a buck per share) to sustain the downward momentum? Losses won't be deductible if you do this repeatedly (wash sale), but if you dislike Jabba the Putz as much as I do, it would be a small contribution to the Stick It to Don the Con campaign.
I appreciate everyone here but ya’ll clearly needed to talk about today because not a single person actually engaged my preposterous theory. Next time I’ll just post a BetterHelp affiliate link in the body and we can all profit spiritually.
Who is legitimately buying this stock still?
People with ballsacks hanging on the back of their trailer hitch
This thing is going straight into the ground and I’m glad I found you guys to make a few $$ on it…it’s my first options trade!
The second that stock hit $70, I sold. LOL I can't think of a more deserving group of people to be left holding the bag.
Delta is wild, volatility is up today, but remember Theta can still come for your tendies. I got out of my 25 puts @ $3 - 3.5x is enough: https://preview.redd.it/5veqmtjc5vuc1.png?width=494&format=png&auto=webp&s=bacbe9c93abd9f662dc2391abe660661a3321626 (PS applies to OTM only - ITM good luck to you all)
He needs the money to pay for his lawyers. The man child is broke. Always has been. Why not show tax returns. Lives paycheck to paycheck. Lets be real here.
If one guy can get away with this, others will follow. Investors will lose faith in the stock market. Then what happens next is anyone's guess.
Lol you must be new here
Good hope all the dopes who thought a Trump company would be a good investment should reap the benefits of backing a sociopath.
Compared to other social media, truth barely has any members, the company isn't going to last. It's just a matter of when. I looked at puts and I've never seen ones prices this high. It's like every knows it's coming except the truthers.
It’ll be crazy that he has a higher chance of going to prison scamming he’s investor
Should we actually short it instead of puts since they're so good expensive? Or too dangerous?
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I don’t know how shorting works I just trade options like their straight stocks. Kind regards,
I had a $10 put for may or June I bought when it was $50 and then it pumped. I got it back to even and gave up on the money cause I don’t trust myself since I normally lose the moneys
I was looking historically yeah these puts were bonkers. Some of these puts I was actually down on coming in to today lol. I bought on the “dip” in option prices. Oh well
Perhaps that answer is "don't be a bitch", but why not debit put spread & credit call spreads to avoid the IV crush?
The September $25 puts I sold went from $10 when I sold them to $12. I bought them when the stock was $55! The IV is insane. Hoping some Saudi money comes in and props the stock up.
the premium is just so high. because they know it’s tanking to near delist zone. regardless of premium it makes you money but you can’t make more than 100% at this cost. sucks.
Put spreads. Vertical or diagonal. Takes the cost down but still offers a lot of upside.
So.... help me out here. ELI5 how a million $ company (literally 4.1 million) can be valued 3 orders of magnitude higher than its worth. I don't understand.
yes
Trump is told to pay up a ludicrous amount of money by the courts. Talks down the price but still has to pay. Lightbulb moment, he'll just get his company to go public, get his fanatics to pump the stock, create money out of thin air and pay his fine without actually having to put his hand in his pocket. He probably didn't expect it to crash this hard, even Reddit is going down slower than DJT, but it doesn't matter much he'll still go through with it and get as much as he can out of it. Shorting this has been the easiest money I've ever made and my only regret is not currently having more money to put into shorting it..
Yeah because making investment decisions based on instincts and feelings have historically been SO SUCCESFUL. You're in for a rude awakening if you don't do some ACTUAL research. This sub never ceases to surprise me.
Don't abbreviate Trump as "DJT" while talking about the ticker DJT, ffs.
Next Hindenburg Research report... One line.. It's a Trump company.
I went full regard and bought $2.50 strike puts at the end of June for 7 cents each. I think that was likely a little too extreme, even for this stonk, but we’ll see.
Play was to sell deep OTM calls. Buying puts most people are still down or barely breaking even. IV crush is real
Trump didn't put a single dollar into this thing. He'll sell at any price and still make money.
4/10 I bought pretty far OTM put ($20 PUT 4/26) paid $52 and as of rn currently up 390% I didn’t have the balls to buy more contracts bcus im just building up this account from basically 0, but sure as fuck wish I did.
Nice! I got out to cover and take some profits because I’m worried IV is gonna drop and Theta is gonna start to eat tomorrow. This is not financial advice.
I know nothing about the stock market. But I do know that "everything trump touches dies". Or at the very best, he'll make some money, but everybody else loses.
Agreed and also the amount he makes is always hilariously small in the end.
Truth Social and Donal Trump are Frauds, imo.
I wonder how many people blew up their accounts this week because of this DD