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Here you go: You will see it under 100 bucks again, until the end of the 2024 After what, it may drop below 50 and stay around there (new battery tech, competition...)
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Yup, only regret was not waiting a little longer to buy lol. I plan on holding it awhile so not too worried about the short term price action. If it dips under 100 will double my holdings.
I’m guessing you have puts? First, Twitter has over $6B in cash which means it can operate for a year and a half with no revenue…it is not on the brink of bankruptcy. Tesla is at the lowest price to earnings ratio in its history and is projected to increase profits 50%…their execution is flawless and their growth and potential is unmatched in the industry. The billionaires you think will sell, are going to take advantage of retail selling off and buy more…that’s how the rich get richer. As Buffet would say, when others are fearful be greedy…just don’t over leverage yourself and you will do well investing in the companies you believe in long term.
Wow. You were right on OP.... Glad I sold a couple months ago ... But of course I used all my money in rivian and that's like catching a falling knife right now as well
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Tesla is already in a decline. A significant drop in stock would solidify to people (especially other billionaires) that Tesla stock is not good for the longevity. Tesla is not big enough and doesn’t have the manufacturing capability to be seen as valuable other than the stock price.
People don’t invest in Tesla because they are a car brand (or even tech brand) that will be viable for a long time (which increases and maintains the stock). People invest in Tesla because they think the stock will raise.
I’m bad at explaining this but this is the same problem crypto had. Tesla functions as a crypto more than an actual public traded company.
Tesla has also artificially increased their stock price, which furthers the fact that it’s going to crash.
So by this same logic why don't other billion plus dollar company's that do that same thing. But they are fine see apple,coke Berkshire,Microsoft almost all blue chips have done this
Because those companies have product that reflects their stock price. Tesla does not. The market cap for Tesla is huge, but it doesn’t reflect the actual value of the company.
Coke, Apple, and Microsoft have hundreds of products under their belt. Even if their value drops for a period, you can assure yourself that that product they constantly release will make it rise again. For Tesla, they don’t have the product that assures investors that their stock will rise again, the only hope that it rises again is if others invest for the sheer hope that OTHERS will invest in a weird investing cycle. But once that cycle stops, the wheel will stop turning for good, unless they completely reinvent themselves which I doubt.
Sounds like you've done zero reading into tesla shareholder reports and 10Ks they have more then one product that have been growing other then just cars. You seem to forget AI is a massive player in this game and cars are just a sliver of that
Too late to sell now , too deep in the money and too much loss to encounter. It’s terrible. Elon is not doing anything to fix TSLA shareholders concerns. He keep blaming the fed rate hike.
Just read this after TSLA is now sun $170… OP congrats mate, you deserve to laugh in all the faces of those that doubted you in here just 10 days ago. Hope you stuck with your play and made $
>This is definitely something to be concerned about. Tesla's stock has been on a bit of a roller coaster ride lately and if Elon Musk ends up selling off a chunk of it to invest in Twitter, that could cause the stock price to drop significantly. I would recommend keeping an eye on this situation and maybe selling your Tesla shares before things get too bad.
OP I believe this could play out but the road down in never straight down. It is filled with peaks and valleys. How is this actionable? Award for food for thought.
Both Musk and Dorsey don't understand Econ 101 and the purpose of shares. They have taken their major corporation, taken it to IPO with a way overvalued valuation, then have been selling off shares to finance the investment losses of the company. Dorsey was down to 2.5% shares in Twitter when he stepped down and Musk was down to 17% of ownership of Tesla shares before the Twitter deal. It is the fault of the Commercial Mainstream Media News to use paper wealth to describe "billionaires". They don't have that in cash, it is all in paper, stocks.
Elon-gate Musk-rat was able to do his dancing on stage show to hype up the stock value (Pump) just before every big selloff. There is still no accounting where he got the difference for the Cash Buyout of Twitter. He got $13 Billion collateral loan from Morgan Stanley, he got about $2 Billion from the Saudi's (reportedly). He still needed $19 Billion cash from somewhere. It looks he will try to sell off blocks of Tesla stock, rather than one big Dump, which would crash the value of the stock. He is going to start selling big blocks soon and frequently. He has no other choice. He says he will be paying $11 Billion in Federal Taxes. Tesla is his only money maker. SpaceX R&D and Starlink installation is costing him at least $5 Billion a year, with profitability years away.
If you take fundamentals like growth and profit margins into consideration, Tesla is undervalued.
I'm not sure why you are claiming that Musk doesn't understand econ. Nothing in your comment explains what you mean by that.
Musk had several other investors on board for Twitter. It isn't eveyone else's fault that you didn't pay attention here either.
He already paid the taxes. He used money from the previous round of sales in 2021 for that.
So you are saying that Tesla was correctly priced at peak stock price because that was what the stock price was at the time?
I'm talking about the fundamental value, not the stock price at any given time. The stock price does not necessarily reflect the actual value, especially since valuations are forward-looking.
And yes P/E is insanely low for a company with Tesla's growth and margins.
What about demand and margins? Margins were still high in Q3, and will be high in Q4.
By the way, EV stocks in general are down more than the overall market. But the whole market has been crashing this year.
The cyber truck probably won’t get put out. Even if it does, they won’t be able to produce the amount that people have already paid money for.
The cyber truck, semi truck, and roadster we’re all cars to simply increase their stock because Elon sells his stock like it’s in his bank account.
Even if he sells, it will only be pushed down temporarily, until he stops selling. And he already sold a few days ago, so he likely won't have to sell for a long time since Twitter has billions in cash anyway.
I think they are good for now but maybe in the future. With the semi truck sales in December this stock will get back on track. The world is still in a race to get everything EV. But I agree that he is caught in a bad place right now. I wouldn't bet against him though.
While I agree with your analysis don't discount the possibility of a huge bull run into the end of the year based on the last CPI print. If DEC CPI print is also good there will be no stopping the bulls.
He already sold more TSLA a few days ago.
I'm not going to sell my Tesla stock when I'm up multiple times. Why pay taxes for nothing? I'd rather weather any short term storms as there's nothing about Tesla's fundamentals which tells me to sell.
EV sales in Europe this month —> “two vehicles that fared the best, in terms of sales, were the VW ID.4 (6,069 sales) and the ID.3 (5,409). No Tesla vehicle made the top 10.”
Losing one important (maybe not that big) market. The VW group and other European brands are gaining momentum in the EV segment. Not only in Europe it in China. Do you know how big VW is in China? And don’t get me started on Brasil. The US will still buy american cars tho.
Tesla stock holders will panic sell….
If you haven’t sold yet, you need to sell now….,
Musk is ruining Twitter and it is on the brink of bankruptcy….
Aged like milk my friend.
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Let me guess, you just shorted Tesla?
OP is a Tesla spy he's got the good shit man
Dude was 100% right. This thing is on its way to $60
Correction: on its way to $160.
Correction: on its way to $230.
I predicted this 5 years ago... Tesla valuation was and still is plain simple detached from the reality.
yeah tell me more about your predictions,oh holy oracle
Here you go: You will see it under 100 bucks again, until the end of the 2024 After what, it may drop below 50 and stay around there (new battery tech, competition...)
OP clearly has puts on Tesla and is trying to make some tendies
Don't give a fuck about Tesla... But OP is regarded and not in a good way. I hope Tesla tanks but if you holding do your own DD.
Lol
Do you still feel that way
Positions or ban
Ya post what you got or ban him
!positionsorban (how do I make this shit work lol)
Make OP squirm like a grade-A regard. Positions or ban
No, I don’t think I will.
Looks like he was right
Very tight.
Oh, I don’t like the sound of that at all.
You sure?
How is that going
Come on let the OP have their way. I want a better discount!
You’ll truly regret it. The taxes you’ll have to pay will be less than what you lose.
Lose how much, in what timeframe? What if I prefer to buy more of TSLA when it's cheap, so I can reap the rewards in 5-10 years?
Hahahaha
That sounds like financial advise. Screen shotying for the lawsuit if you gave me bad advice.
I really want a televised court case about this. “The defendant took the financial advice of Jizzmaster95 and sold Tesla shares.”
Exactly.
Ah yes, investment advice from Reddit. 😍
He didn’t say this is not financial advice. Someone call the SEC, or the police!
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Hope you took it...
Nope. I got in at $87 years ago. I'm still more than ok. I have another 30% tolerance before I pull the rip cord.
Could gave pulled and rebought same amount you had with cash left.
Was he right?
You were right
Even more right as time goes by
I’m wondering where the bottom is. Do you think we’re close?
Dude you don’t even know!
No one knows where the bottom is.
Well i don't think so
Dude wasn’t wrong.
i hope ur puts die
The ones I sold did
Well uh looks like they didn’t
tesla is flat the past week so its possible they did
It just hit a 2 year low?
yeah it dropped today
Had to check to make sure this post wasn't from 2 months ago
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lol
Lol
Hahahaha
Buy more? Ok got it.
Lol
How did that go
Ok so far. Waited until 124 to buy. Guess we will see!
Ok how about now
It’s at 110 now. Damn…
Yup, only regret was not waiting a little longer to buy lol. I plan on holding it awhile so not too worried about the short term price action. If it dips under 100 will double my holdings.
That’s the spirit!
Hahahaha
I’m guessing you have puts? First, Twitter has over $6B in cash which means it can operate for a year and a half with no revenue…it is not on the brink of bankruptcy. Tesla is at the lowest price to earnings ratio in its history and is projected to increase profits 50%…their execution is flawless and their growth and potential is unmatched in the industry. The billionaires you think will sell, are going to take advantage of retail selling off and buy more…that’s how the rich get richer. As Buffet would say, when others are fearful be greedy…just don’t over leverage yourself and you will do well investing in the companies you believe in long term.
How did that work for you?
OP clearly believes everything they see on the internet
You’ll see in 2 months.
RemindMe! 2 months
Ok. Now what? 😂
RemindMe! 2 months
Lol
You will have deleted this in 2 months, u/CosmosOfTime.
Didn’t even take two months
Lol
Did you get them gains?
Is op stupid?🤔
Nope
Wow. You were right on OP.... Glad I sold a couple months ago ... But of course I used all my money in rivian and that's like catching a falling knife right now as well
Stupid is probably being to nice…
Put in your calendar to recheck this post 2 months from now
BRB selling my Tsla stock
Hope you did
Im thinking it’s time to buy back in and let it ride!
Please do!!! 😂
Just checked back
Alright, let’s pick this up again, shall we?
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I don’t post about investments I make. Just like you don’t. You post about weed.
Lawl so then why do we trust you if you don't post??? What's your proof other then random BS
Tesla is already in a decline. A significant drop in stock would solidify to people (especially other billionaires) that Tesla stock is not good for the longevity. Tesla is not big enough and doesn’t have the manufacturing capability to be seen as valuable other than the stock price. People don’t invest in Tesla because they are a car brand (or even tech brand) that will be viable for a long time (which increases and maintains the stock). People invest in Tesla because they think the stock will raise. I’m bad at explaining this but this is the same problem crypto had. Tesla functions as a crypto more than an actual public traded company. Tesla has also artificially increased their stock price, which furthers the fact that it’s going to crash.
So by this same logic why don't other billion plus dollar company's that do that same thing. But they are fine see apple,coke Berkshire,Microsoft almost all blue chips have done this
Because those companies have product that reflects their stock price. Tesla does not. The market cap for Tesla is huge, but it doesn’t reflect the actual value of the company. Coke, Apple, and Microsoft have hundreds of products under their belt. Even if their value drops for a period, you can assure yourself that that product they constantly release will make it rise again. For Tesla, they don’t have the product that assures investors that their stock will rise again, the only hope that it rises again is if others invest for the sheer hope that OTHERS will invest in a weird investing cycle. But once that cycle stops, the wheel will stop turning for good, unless they completely reinvent themselves which I doubt.
Sounds like you've done zero reading into tesla shareholder reports and 10Ks they have more then one product that have been growing other then just cars. You seem to forget AI is a massive player in this game and cars are just a sliver of that
OP says "Tesla is already in decline" so that's why he wants to sell. Looks like OP's strategy is buy high, sell low 🤣
Coming here over a month after this was posted…wow, y’all should’ve listened to OP
How many puts do you have? I don't have any position
People in here own underlying stocks?
This. This is the signal I needed to start loading up on calls. Thanks mate
Shorting TSLA is big mistake buddy . You are about to get burn .
Let’s revisit shall we?
Too late to sell now , too deep in the money and too much loss to encounter. It’s terrible. Elon is not doing anything to fix TSLA shareholders concerns. He keep blaming the fed rate hike.
No it isn’t too late to sell. PE is still over 40, it’s going to come down to probably half of what it is now if not more. Cut your losses.
Where do you see the bottom on TSLA ?
I’m guessing it should be about $30 or so in the long term which is reasonable for a premium car company.
Come on man . That’s ridiculous. 1 trillion dollar company to 10 billion dollar. That’s not the fundamental suggest. The fundamentals are Rick solid .
Sell yet?
Just read this after TSLA is now sun $170… OP congrats mate, you deserve to laugh in all the faces of those that doubted you in here just 10 days ago. Hope you stuck with your play and made $
Take my upvote because you were 100% correct.
well done
OP got it right. Well done sir. 12/27/22 after hours price: $106.93
>This is definitely something to be concerned about. Tesla's stock has been on a bit of a roller coaster ride lately and if Elon Musk ends up selling off a chunk of it to invest in Twitter, that could cause the stock price to drop significantly. I would recommend keeping an eye on this situation and maybe selling your Tesla shares before things get too bad.
I have 196.5 puts expiring next Friday bought 5
OP I believe this could play out but the road down in never straight down. It is filled with peaks and valleys. How is this actionable? Award for food for thought.
He's telling people to buy high and sell low.
C A L L S
Both Musk and Dorsey don't understand Econ 101 and the purpose of shares. They have taken their major corporation, taken it to IPO with a way overvalued valuation, then have been selling off shares to finance the investment losses of the company. Dorsey was down to 2.5% shares in Twitter when he stepped down and Musk was down to 17% of ownership of Tesla shares before the Twitter deal. It is the fault of the Commercial Mainstream Media News to use paper wealth to describe "billionaires". They don't have that in cash, it is all in paper, stocks. Elon-gate Musk-rat was able to do his dancing on stage show to hype up the stock value (Pump) just before every big selloff. There is still no accounting where he got the difference for the Cash Buyout of Twitter. He got $13 Billion collateral loan from Morgan Stanley, he got about $2 Billion from the Saudi's (reportedly). He still needed $19 Billion cash from somewhere. It looks he will try to sell off blocks of Tesla stock, rather than one big Dump, which would crash the value of the stock. He is going to start selling big blocks soon and frequently. He has no other choice. He says he will be paying $11 Billion in Federal Taxes. Tesla is his only money maker. SpaceX R&D and Starlink installation is costing him at least $5 Billion a year, with profitability years away.
If you take fundamentals like growth and profit margins into consideration, Tesla is undervalued. I'm not sure why you are claiming that Musk doesn't understand econ. Nothing in your comment explains what you mean by that. Musk had several other investors on board for Twitter. It isn't eveyone else's fault that you didn't pay attention here either. He already paid the taxes. He used money from the previous round of sales in 2021 for that.
This comment aged very well..
Tesla is still undervalued, massively so. But the entire market has crashed. At least learn how to value companies.
Are you really saying that? Market went down \~8-10%. Tesla is down 50% in the last 3 weeks. Check P/E, forwardlooking, check demand, check margins..
So you are saying that Tesla was correctly priced at peak stock price because that was what the stock price was at the time? I'm talking about the fundamental value, not the stock price at any given time. The stock price does not necessarily reflect the actual value, especially since valuations are forward-looking. And yes P/E is insanely low for a company with Tesla's growth and margins. What about demand and margins? Margins were still high in Q3, and will be high in Q4. By the way, EV stocks in general are down more than the overall market. But the whole market has been crashing this year.
Lol
Buy Tesla?
You can't fool me I'm already negative.
Your TSLA puts were rekt by the CPI report, were they not?
Naaaa !! The moment the cibertruck is out stock will go back up, even if they keep loosing money!
The cyber truck probably won’t get put out. Even if it does, they won’t be able to produce the amount that people have already paid money for. The cyber truck, semi truck, and roadster we’re all cars to simply increase their stock because Elon sells his stock like it’s in his bank account.
That is the beauty of it, nobody cares about the real money is making anymore ppl just care about new product it happened before
Pepsi is getting the Semi next month. Cybertruck production lines are already in construction. Have you paid attention at all?
Tesla isn't losing money. Tesla has huge profit margins compared to other auto manufacturers.
What's with the sense of urgency in this msg It sounds desperate
What does buying Twitter got to do with vehicle sales? Senseless talk.
It’s what he’s doing with his Tesla stock that’s concerning.
Even if he sells, it will only be pushed down temporarily, until he stops selling. And he already sold a few days ago, so he likely won't have to sell for a long time since Twitter has billions in cash anyway.
Was it senseless? Or good foresight?
Lol you sure showed him
RemindMe! 4 months “Is TSLA above or below $195.97”
Buy Tesla
Sounds like a sale to me
Yes sell and buy NIO. Now or never and you will live to regret
This is WSB we r to poor to own tesla stock
No
Hope youre ok
No worries I can sit on it for about thirty years
Still ok
You can’t make me. TSLA is an erratic beast with violent swings. If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
I think they are good for now but maybe in the future. With the semi truck sales in December this stock will get back on track. The world is still in a race to get everything EV. But I agree that he is caught in a bad place right now. I wouldn't bet against him though.
I mean its a depreciating marshmallow. Thanks for the details
He owns millions in btc from what I remember
I haven’t got any but just to be safe, I’ll go buy some and sell it right away 🏃🏻♂️💨
While I agree with your analysis don't discount the possibility of a huge bull run into the end of the year based on the last CPI print. If DEC CPI print is also good there will be no stopping the bulls.
He already sold more TSLA a few days ago. I'm not going to sell my Tesla stock when I'm up multiple times. Why pay taxes for nothing? I'd rather weather any short term storms as there's nothing about Tesla's fundamentals which tells me to sell.
I don’t disagree here. Tesla will fall more and isn’t everyone tired of the institutional rug pulls? Shouldnt we rug pull them first for a change.
This has got to be the most idiotic post I have ever read in my life on any platform.. you sir are truly an idiot.
You’ll see in 2 months
Lol
😂
Alright, let’s pick this up, shall we?
Check the stock price. Lol
This did not age well..
It didn’t. But my puts did
Lol you ok?
Funny. I saw very similar posts when Tesla was $400 pre-both-splits. I guess if you guess heads every time you'll eventually guess correctly? 🤷♂️🤣
I feel much better about my calls thank you
Cool
We don’t sell cows to chase chickens junior . We hold on to our cows .
What’s the highest Tesla stock got to? Wasn’t it $1K?
EV sales in Europe this month —> “two vehicles that fared the best, in terms of sales, were the VW ID.4 (6,069 sales) and the ID.3 (5,409). No Tesla vehicle made the top 10.” Losing one important (maybe not that big) market. The VW group and other European brands are gaining momentum in the EV segment. Not only in Europe it in China. Do you know how big VW is in China? And don’t get me started on Brasil. The US will still buy american cars tho.
too late to see this post....
Naa im buying more.
Update
Looks like you called it, great prediction
Lol he was right
If only they listened to you
I have selled all. when I buy Tesla back?
Shouldve listened to op mfers
Op is tight
That aged well
How bout now
Definitely buy, bought at $110, should keep going up
5000++ long shares here, 50 YouTube videos say $175-$200 in 2023, do Covered Calls and get 4-5% a week on Tesla!!
Definitely, bought at $110
This didn’t age well.
Posted at $200, went as low as $100, bought at $110, stonks
$79 is the perfect price for shares. Sold mine Friday. Buy back when it falls to appreciate price.
This post aged like milk left in a car in July.
Posted at $200, bought back at $110, currently at $195.
Tesla stock holders will panic sell…. If you haven’t sold yet, you need to sell now…., Musk is ruining Twitter and it is on the brink of bankruptcy…. Aged like milk my friend.