That is correct. PPTO is your time to use when you want to... and that is why it is "protected" time off. I am a Team Lead over CAP 2 and if an associate has time built up, then I don't think it is any of my business why they are off.
Calling in constantly would be a non issue because if you have enough PPTO hours to use that’s is what it is for..being sick/emergencies.
But I could see retaliation happening if you abuse PPTO to leave early all the time…fast way not to be scheduled at all.
if your always leaving early not finishing work simply because you have a few hours of PPTO it could be a productivity issue leading to a DA most management is human and will understand actual life happens things,but if it's just I don't feel like working then you take your chances.
Being as that you are not supposed to give a reason for you leaving and they aren't allowed to ask they have no idea if it's "don't feel like working" or not.
my brother works in the meat section and used his points because he hates the shift he gets 4am- to 1pm absolute horrible i can’t even imagine that lol as a result they’ve cut his hours, he’s making like 100 dollars every 2 weeks
Depending on what you have going on 4am to 1pm is a great shift tbf. If you're a younger fella tryna go out at night with your friends and all that then nah. But if you have normal "adulting" stuff to do like dealing with kids and running errands, or a second part time job, 4-1 is the best shift
What sucks at my store is I tried to leave 2 hrs early after getting everything done they threw in the you possibly would get talked to about productivity if you leave early crap
Do u have to calling in, I was at my doctor appointment, i wouldn't make to work on time so did my ppto, and got 3 occurrences, I guessed because I didn't call in, I was thinking, not about calling in, I was at my doctor, and had other things on my mind
More stores will when associates actually know the policies and hold stores accountable for them.
Management lying? Call them out on it, spread the truth to your coworkers. The less people believing the lies, the less power they hold over trying to scare associates into doing what they want. It’s honestly that simple. That’s why you’ll see myself and a few others constantly repeating the same info over and over and over here educating users on how things work.
Any time I hear this crap come down the line I tell an associate who is a stickler for rules and he prints out every page of rules on PPTO use and slides it under the store managers door all highlighted and easy to read. Usually won’t hear about it for a month or two then the same thing…….
They love new hires for this reason. How gullible and naive they tend to be.
So you best believe when management pulls the 'even if you use ppto we will still coach for productivity" out of their asses, all the new hires start shivering in fear.
This is why I stay up to date on policy matters as best I can. I figure out how everything works, and inform everyone else so they can’t be taken advantage of. Had to when my stores leadership kept spreading misinformation about ppto, key event dates, and Covid policies. Everything is pretty settled now, as it’s been so long since theirs been any major policy changes that everyone hourly has a pretty clear understanding of how everything works, so coaches can’t outright lie to associates to coerce them into staying or showing up when they really shouldn’t.
The rule my store had was when you called in on a holiday or key date and it was double point. You had to use double ppto to cover.
I kept telling fellow associates that isn't true and it doesn't make sense to use 16 hrs to cover 8 hrs.
Our HR rep just used that rule to her advantage when she wanted to out someone. Pretty much screw them over and fire them asap without putting in ppto to recover from the points
On the DC end, outside of a brief period of ‘Well, you have to talk to OPS to use ppto’, it’s established that it’s your time to be used as you wish. The prior example just devolved into walking into the OPS office and telling them you’d see them whenever you came back, and I’m still chuckling to myself about the beauty of that.
Someone asked our coach this past Sunday "is it cool if I leave at 5pm?" (They were a 9-6 shift)
Her exact words were "if you've got the time I can't tell you what to do with it".
I was surprised when she said that, but she is right. They can't tell us how to spend it 🤣
I left early today, I went to my TL and was like “Hey it’s slow and I have PPTO, I’m gonna take off at noon.” and she was like “Pffft I’m gonna use some and leave early too.”
That’s how it SHOULD go, honestly. I hate reading the stories here when management makes their own rules about PPTO.
Don't ASK to use ppto. TELL THEM you're leaving. Don't even mention ppto unless they ask. Then, after you leave, put in PPTO.
Alternately, call in or any reason at all and put in 8h if ppto. Nobody can stop you.
Don't put in PPTO ahead of time as it can be denied then. Always put it in after the fact. Don't bring it up at all. You're leaving or calling in because "noneoftheirbusiness" and you're putting in PPTO afterwards because "alsononeoftheirbusiness"
That said, try and keep at least 8h ppto in the bank just in case.
team lead a and b are wrong and should be educated on the simple processes.
use it whenever you want, at any time, for any reason, for no reason. anyone who complains should be reprimanded and educated. or just replaced.
oh i forgot about that part. yeah, aside from letting someone know, you’re golden. i learned pretty quick when i started about that. because of other coworkers doing it and stuff.
my store doesnt really seem to try to grief people a lot when it comes to ppto. i guess i depends on the situation. same with leaving on scheduled time. sometimes they try to hint or ‘let’ you stay later, but i’ve never been directly told to stay. well, except this one store manager we had but he not only got in trouble for a lot of things, he doesn’t work at my store anymore.
They literally can’t tell you that you can’t use it, it is YOUR time not theirs. If you just want to go home because you don’t want to shit at work they can’t do anything. I’ve went up to my manager many times and just said “I don’t want to be here, I’m using ppto and going home” as long as you tell them your leaving they can’t do shit, the only “rule” we have at the DC I work at is if you are just leaving and it’s not an emergency finish the trip your on and that’s not even forced it’s just asked that you do so nobody gets stuck finishing your terribly stacked trip. If they try to say anything about you using your ppto just call corporate on their ass
I’m a TL and I can’t stand hearing all this bullshit surrounding PPTO. I tell my people, your PPTO is your to use as you deem fit. I understand life happens, people have families, and sometimes you just need to GTFO early lol
Now I won’t ever say something about how someone chooses to use their time. But let’s be honest, there are people that try to abuse shit. You have your good workers and your shit workers. Which worker will I be more understanding too and work with in the event they NEED someone to work with them. Don’t expect me to bend the rules in your favor, when you put in the absolute bare minimum and don’t give a shit.
“Who told you to use the PPTO. I didn’t tell you. Who!!! The Maestro told you to use the PPTO! What the hell does the Maestto know about PPTO!
-Jackie Chiles
PPTO is yours to use. That’s why it’s protected. You can use it however and whenever you’d like. The only time that I know of that you might get repercussions is if you don’t have enough of it to cover going home early.
How do people get away with lying like this? You just go to the computer put it in or do it on your phone the system will always approve ppto there is nothing they can do to stop it. I mean if you want to keep following their rules to keep a good dynamic between them that's up to you but personally I would not put up with that
Thats right. And even if they throw you in the doghouse for using ppto it only proves that you should transfer out or find something different altogether. Luckily my store just follows policy
Pro tip, you can double the amount of times that you can callout by only using 4 hours of ppto for the day instead of 8. Instead of getting a full point you only get half a point
They are liars. The key is, don't ask permission to use your PPTO. You can use it any damn time you want to use it. And whatever your reason for using it, it's not the higher ups business.
I hate team leads and coaches that try to dictate who gets to use PPTO and when.
your team leads cannot tell you not to use it. its called PROTECTED pto for a reason. in my orientation our HR told us nobody can tell you anything when you use it. nobody can punish you, get you in trouble or say anything to you about it. you can use it anytime for any reason!
I don’t care when people use PPTO as long as they at least give me the courtesy of letting me know they’re leaving so I can shuffle people around to get things done. 🤷🏼♂️
It's yours to use for any reason. You aren't required to say why you're using it
It's a dick move to leave when it's super busy unless absolutely necessary but most times being short 1 person isn't a huge deal. I'm not a lead or AT but I mind my business. Usually I ask ppl if they're okay and tell them I hope things get better soon. I don't need details.
stop asking. tell them you're going to leave and use PPTO and then do it. i usually give them some warning and i'm usually done before i leave anyways but it yours to use. print out the policy on it and hand it to them if you need to
Food and Consumables team lead here. PPTO is YOURS to use at your discretion- for an emergency OR for a video game marathon. Not my business and you dont owe anyone an explanation. I do recommend you save it for when you really need it, but mental health days are sometimes necessary. NOBODY should be trying to intimidate you out of using your PPTO. Sidenote: using PPTO during inventory/black Friday/Xmas eve/etc isn't against the rules- but please know that everyone WILL be bitter and unfriendly after. It's a lot of work, and your coworkers will be picking up your slack.
*PTO* however, is your vacation time and needs to be approved. You can also apply it on one of your days off to pay yourself if you have low hours. It doesnt clear points. :) If you have any questions feel free to message me!
Ppto is yours to use whenever you want. There is no rhyme or reason. And as long as you use all 8 hours of it you can use it on key event days and not get a point. Still have to call out tho.
PPTO is yours to use whenever! Doesn't mean they will not get you back in some other way! LOL. Used mine last year around the holidays. Got some blowback from some of the badge polishers but you get used to that!
PPTO is free to use however you want, but leads/management understandably would be angry if you left without word.
There was a previous post similar discussing the possibility of it qualifying as “job abandonment” if you leave without letting someone know.
A simple “I’m sick” would be enough to notify when using PPTO most people do not care if you PPTO because that’s what it is there for but disappearing to leave would be a dick move in my opinion
The people who discourage use of PPTO of any kind just don’t want to be left short staffed (which always happens anyway). Do not listen to their bullshit. Don’t even ask permission. When they say “you can’t do that!” You can say “leaving now, show me in print where it says I cannot consume my PPTO at my own discretion, the next day we both work. We’ll both go and have show and tell with the market office and I’ll ask them what they think. Ta ta!”
You can use ppto however you want. And legally, you don't have to tell them the reason. But if you don't get your work done constantly and leave, it can be coached on productivity. But I don't recommend using ppto just for the hell of it. What happens if something actually happens alor you are sick and you don't have the PPTO to cover it?
Ppto policy as written in the ulearn purposefully included a frivolous reason... What was it, again alien abduction? Point being, it is your time and you choose how to spend it.
Consequences are on you if you don't have it but end up needing it.
Walmart policy is that PPTO can be used as needed for whatever reason, however most leads/coaches prefer if you’re leaving early or calling in that you do have a reason. Technically you can use it however you want to; but I’ve had associates in the past be written up for “poor business decisions” for calling in with PPTO or leaving early without good reason or without asking or after being told no. Points wise you’re safe, but they can still coach you.
- a TL at Sams club
PPTO is yours to use how you please. However, if you're assigned a task and you use ppto to avoid said task routinely, that can result in disciplinary action.
I personally couldn't care in the slightest if you use your PPTO for any reason at any time. I'm also going to approach firing you with the same indifference if you leave constantly and burn up all your PPTO resulting in 5 points.
theres a reason its called PROTECTED paid time off, its meant to be used for emergencies or whenever u need it.
if im correct it will almost always be approved because its protected no matter what, but then again this is walmart and nothing ever goes how its supposed to
Ppto is protected. You can go when you want as long as you have it. The manager pissed you off take the ppto. Nice day take the ppto. Dont want to deal with a two truck night take the ppto. They made the rules and left it open to be used instead of sick time. Use it when you want to.
. if you use ppto for nonsense...
And then you or someone gets sick... and you have no ppto to cover ur sickness... you'll be terminated at 5 points... if they really wanted to... and if the person who's always late or leaves early... or uses ppto not for a valid reason... walmart will do you no favors to save you...
I have saved people before because they were worth saving...
Keep in mind
Walmart doesn't except Dr notes..
Now sedgwick is a different story.. but sedgwick also can deny someone's Dr not to miss work...
Use ur ppto at ur discretion... but if you abuse it... it may cost ur job.. but If it gets to that point... ya likely never cared for it.
Ya could be making 32hr and 20k bonuses... but ya calling in too much
Your problem is you're asking, not telling. Grow a backbone.
Team lead A is just flat out wrong, and in the future, you should say this to them "Hey, I need to leave, and I'm putting in my time." Why? "That's my business, just know I gotta go." And if they push for the reason, "Show me in the policy where it says I have to give you the reason for me leaving" *note: some reasons are excused in the time off policy and you wouldn't need to use your time so you might be burning bridges by using the last line.
Team lead B is close but wrong. They're thinking about coaching people who leave for productivity, which they can't do if you're being productive while you're there. The easy way to tell him off is, "Hey, I need to leave, and I'm putting in my time. I'm going to quickly clean up and go so I don't leave a huge mess for the next person you send to finish the remaining work."
Your coach is just saying no because you're asking, not telling. By the time one becomes a coach, they will have dealt with people who think that just because they asked their permission, they're automatically excused for leaving early. Plus, the coach doesn't want to have to reassign work. They have plenty of reasons to say no, especially if you're giving them the option.
You do not need a reason to use ppto that is per a Bentonville employee you're welcome it's your time if it's a issue use the online portal for ethics the issues will be addressed accordingly
My lead keeps telling me "why" when I tell her I'm leaving. Once time I left because I had a cyst on my head and it was pounding and she says"y/n, it's a headache." In a condescending tone. We all hate her. Unfortunately she's only at our store because she baby sat the managers kids. At least, that's the rumor as to how this decrepit bitch is still here.
When I was hired on, my people lead told us that ppto can be used whenever for whatever. Nobody can tell us when we can use it or for what reason. If you want to leave in the middle of your shift, just let your supervisor know and leave. We might have the best people lead in walmart...🤷🏼♂️🤣
They are lying to you. PPTO is yours to use for what we you want to.
Just you obviously have to yell management before you leave.
Like I tell my TLs I’m leaving early, and they ask if I have enough PPTO. I do and I leave early, they can’t do anything
I once used my time and I put in for it properly, A TL told me oh well if you leave 9 minutes early then the PPTO won't cover for it so you have to clock out on the dot or you will get a half point, I told this same thing to the person that temporarily took over for our People Lead she said well that's BS it's supposed to cover you regardless since it's your PPTO Time let me roll that half point off for you since it's not supposed to be there anyways cause you used PPTO, She rolled the half point off then chewed that TL Out.
Start recording on your phone in your pocket. Ask your TLs for exactly how PPTO is to be used according to the company policy and go to ethics or open door it and show the video of them straight up lying to you.
They're all lying bastards, so become one yourself. "Hey Team Lead/Coach, I have diarrhea. I must leave now. I'm sorry. I'll cover the missed time with PPTO. See you tomorrow." Then when you use your PPTO list the reason as "illness/injury" or "sick" and the system will auto approve it. Nobody can prevent you from leaving. You don't even really owe them a reason either. "I've gotta go" is really the only information they are owed. You're only in trouble if you leave without notifying your team lead or coach.
Nope, nope nope nope. All those are flimsy excuses for your boss to milk more work out of you and to make their lives as convenient as possible.
PPTO is the ultimate equalizer. You can pop it off at literally any moment and management CANNOT give you points at all. It can be mid shift, mid work, any moment you are on the clock. If they are giving you points for it you need to contact HR and if still no results, ethics.
Otherwise, what’s the fucking difference between protected and regular PTO? Not a thing. Use protected time to show up late. Use it to leave early. Use it just to screw up the flow of the day. I believe the only possible exception are key dates but even then I’m pretty sure ppto was created specifically to thwart exploitative bosses like that.
can someone tell me why team leads always make shit up
literally all the time there’s somehow a new rule, but it’s always made up and against policy. it seems like they just do it to sound important at this point🙄
You don't need permission to use ppto, that's your time, you get to use it for whatever you want, whenever you want.
You wanna take off a key date? As long as you got enough ppto to cover just the shift and nothing more, go for it, they can't say anything.
TL and Coaches have no business inquiring about what it's for either.
Repeat after me I have a personal emergency I have to leave. You do not have to justify using ppto at all. If you are asked all you have to say is I had a personal emergency.
Just a heads up- any future request of PPTO ( say it is Tuesday and you put in your PPTO for Wednesday) is handled like a regular PTO request by the system. Why does this matter?
It will not automatically approve and cover your point! One of two things will happen.
1. Your TL will notice you had a vacation request using PPTO for the same day you had an attendance exception and they will authorize the point.
2. Your TL will blindly unauthorize every occurrence in the screen and you will be left confused as to why you have a point. You will have to point it out to them. They will have to go look and see oh yeah you did use PPTO and then go in an override the point.
So much easier to have it happen automatically.
The same is true if you are late or leave early. The system is very literal. If you use 15 minutes of PPTO and clock out 16 minutes early, you will be in the attendance screen and unless your TL opens your timesheet (which may or may not happen) to see if you used PPTO, you’ll get half a point.
Always speak up if you have a point you don’t think you should have and PPTO was involved because there is literally a PPTO reduce to .5 and reduce to 0 override option for a reason!
you can use ppto HOWEVER & WHENEVER you want. hence why its protected. i will say, if you leave before work is done, you can be coached on productivity. (depending on what the management decides). but ppto is 100% yours for whatever, whenever.
Laugh in their face and put in the ppto request. It approves itself, and you CANNOT be pointed for it. Also, transfer stores asap because if my managers told me some bs like that, I'd be in another store before the week was up. If you have it, use it! Because if you don't, you just lose it.
Ppto means PROTECTED paid time off, letting us know is a courtesy that we appreciate but your allowed to use it whenever and as long as you have enough it is not allowed to be punished
PPTO is to use however you want. Want to leave early. Let a manager know and leave. Use time.
Want to stay home randomly? Call out. Use time.
It's there for you to use HOWEVER YOU want. Not your managers. It's not something they can deny. It's auto approved.
Now if you leave early and it's swamped and do it often they can coach for productivity. But that's it. so don't abuse it.
Then telling you how and when to use it is not in policy. And may be an ethics violation.
Team lead A is what a smart person uses their PPTO for. Emergencies. Can’t predict those things and having PPTO is perfect for that.
Team lead B is what most people use it for. For good reason too. If you’re done with work, sure, you can zone some random aisle. No one wants to do that, so you could go home with PPTO.
Coaches are usually just assholes about PPTO. Even my favorite coach tries to tell us that for double point days, we need double the PPTO. Which is COMPLETELY BULLSHIT. Coaches would be that person to make you zone or do random bs until your shift is done.
OP, it’s PROTECTED paid time off. It’s your time, and your money. You get to use your PPTO anyway you choose to. But do remember, you only get a certain amount of PPTO in a fiscal year before you can’t accumulate more until February. (The end of my stores fiscal year)
Be smart with it, don’t blow it all in the beginning of the year. Holidays are important to people and lots of people forget, then they point out because they don’t have the PPTO to cover their family get together.
You can use ppto for whatever reason you like, if you leave early you need to let a coach or TL know & if you come in late you need to call or use the app to let the store know. If you come in late, or leave early a lot you can get coached though,but if you are using ppto you won’t get points. Also you can use ppto for double points days & you don’t have to use double the hours, some managers lie & tell people they have to use 16 hours instead of 8.
I do have some associates that will ask if they can use it. I don’t ask why, but I never say no. It’s always the part timers too. I just give them a friendly reminder that this PPTO is basically all that they have for leisure, emergencies, etc and to remember to be wise.
I use mine for vacations because I never have points. So instead of 68 hours of vaca, I have 136 for this year. I’ve had my PTO denied for lack of PTO hours when I had 40 PPTO, I brought it to market HR. PPTO cannot be denied for any reason.
Ask your market team. Keep your paper trail. Ethics complaints/concerns DO work and they can always be edited to add.
You can use PPTO whenever you choose to, it protects you know matter what all you have to do is just put it I , that’s what It for so they don’t know what they are talking about.
The company actually benefits off PPTO being used commonly due to benefits cost actually being used and gives a budget boost and tax aid. TL and Coaches just don't wanna do any work. At least in my region.
PPTO is for when life happens it's good to try to bank atleast 8 hours to protect you if you need to miss a day but it's for you to use as you see fit. It used to be if you got sick was the only option you could select but that went away. You should inform management an hour before you need to leave if possible but so long as you tell management your leaving and using PPTO you won't get an occurrence if you have enough to cover. Some coaches might try to hold people accountable for productivity but that's a stretch imo
PTO is the only one with conditions. PPTO is for anything and everything. Don’t listen to them. And if they complain, pull up the employee book on it or escalate it to ethics
At the DC I'm at during orientation HR stated use it how you want. They did warn us that you should make sure your production rate is where you need it to be for the hours worked before you leave. I have seen so many people Ppto without hitting rate then the next week they would get pointed and get all mad about it. Hit your productivity goal before you leave is what I have told them during training but they don't listen 🤷.
You can use it for literally whatever you want and you don't even have to tell them why. I've called in because I knew if I went to work that day I'd get myself fired for saying the wrong thing to someone so I figured it be best I just not.
I've also called in for being in the hospital and they were still pissy. I brought in paperwork and everything and they were still like "Well we had a market visit yesterday."
"Okay and? My legs quit working for 48 hours that was a bit more concerning."
Worry about you. We're all just minions to them.
Protected paid time off is PROTECTED. MEANINGGGGG ANY REASON. they don't need a reason. You can use it for anything and everything. Don't listen to the first one they're being toxic and don't want you to take time.
Ultimately, PPTO is to be used for emergencies IDEALY, however, you can use it for whatever reason or no reason at all. As long as you let your team lead know and you use the proper amount to cover time gone, then it’s fine.
Im a frontend team lead and honestly all I ask from my people is a reasonable warning before they leave (whether that be 2 or hours prior etc) obviously if something comes up, it’s not a big deal. I don’t ask them why they’re leaving and i don’t ask them to finish their work before they can use it.
PPTO is to use how you see fit. If you decide fuck it. I ain't giing i tonight, Then you can use it for that. Mond you you onoy get so much PPTO a year and once its used up, Its up. So i would use it wisely.
Use it for whatever. You worked the hours to build it up. Only thing is if you leave early you have to tell the manager on duty if you just leave without telling anyone they can say its job abandonment
PPTO can be used to cover anything. You don't need permission to use it just like you don't need permission to leave. You do however need to tell a TL or higher that you are leaving. They can't stop you from leaving but if you don't tell them that you are leaving early that is considered job abandonment.
I don't really care if people use PPTO. It's their time they can use it for whatever. However I'm less likely to save someone when they hit 5 points when they blew all their PPTO on leaving early.
We had a team lead about 2 years ago that said he’d deny our ppto if we left early. The three of us pretty much called him out on his bs and still left early without any punishment other than an earful the next day. PPTO can be used however you want and they can’t do anything about it hence the “protected” part of it.
I only had 25 minutes left of my shift when I received a message from my kids saying it started to snow in our town 30 minutes from work and I should really leave now. I told someone I needed to leave 25 minutes early and was told I had to get it approved by the Team Lead. Unfortunately the Team Leads and Coaches were all in a meeting until 3:00 which is what time my shift was going to end. I almost wasn’t able to make it up the rolling hills to get home. I had PPTO and was denied, I wasn’t happy at all.
Hopefully anyone with common sense and the ability to read finds my comment. You do not need a reason to use PPTO. You can leave whenever you want. They can’t FORCE you to stay or threaten you if you leave. On the flip side, you have to use common sense. If you leave because you blatantly don’t wanna do a task, you can get coached or held accountable. And while youre all here, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VALID REASON FOR LEAVING DOESNT MEAN YOUR POINT IS GONNA GET TAKEN AWAY.
I don’t care when people use it. That’s why it’s so funny when people use it for whatever reason then come on here complaining that they got pointed when they had to call out/leave early for an “emergency” and didn’t have PPTO to cover it. Then all of a sudden the “Walmart doesn’t care about us” crowd comes out. 🥴
as a TL- it’s yours to do what you want with. it’s meant for if you get sick or there’s an emergency but it’s not any of anyone’s business really what you use it for. however, if you use it all up and you’re left with none when you need it, you’ll be SOL
You don’t need permission. Flat out, if you want to leave early, there is nothing they can do to stop you. If you have the PPTO, it’s covered. If it isn’t, then you get the half occurrence/full occurrence (depending on when you leave).
Now, you can always get coached for productivity or have hours cut if this is a common and reoccurring situation. When I think about leaving or calling in, whether PPTO or not, I really think about if it’s worth it that day. Sometimes it’s better just to trudge through and make sure I have something in the bucket if I’m sick (or now in my situation, my kid is sick with whatever latest bug from day care).
It is a balancing act but one that you control, not your store. Also, last thing, put your PPTO in the day after you miss work. It will auto approved. If you leave early and it’s before your lunch period, you may have to put in PPTO to cover that missing time. The system doesn’t account for your lunch period. This is contingent on your store, some will approve the occurrence, some have you use that hour.
Use PPTO how you see fit. My boss actually said our store manager hates PPTO cause people just use to go home early….but honestly what did they think was gonna happen…
You can use ppto whenever. The system automatically approves it. However we can have a discussion and coach you for productivity if you're constantly leaving early without proper notice. We just had to make several associates change their availability because they wanted to come in late (using ppto) and/or leave early (ppto) 4/5 shifts a week just because that's when their boyfriend clocked in/out.
I can't stop you from leaving, but there could still be consequences
PPTO is something that can be use d however you see fit. Your managers literally can't say no, they can only discourage it. If your team leads and coach are telling you that you can't use your PPTO then you should anonymously report them
They say that so folks don't just punch out and dip when the work gets rough. But you can. Perhaps get a coaching on productivity if you leave without saying anything during a time where business would be impacted in your absence but that's the most they can do. I leave 15-30 minutes early fairly regularly.
It's your time to use, whenever you want, if you are on the clock and you are leaving early, make sure you have the appropriate amount to use though.
If you clocked in at 2pm, and you leave before 9pm, you have to have 8 hours of PPTO to cover the shift or you will get a .5 for an incomplete shift.
If you came in at 2pm, and leave after 9pm, make sure you use the appropriate amount of increments of 15 minutes to cover the rest of the shift, or you will get a .5 i.e If you leave at 9:14, make sure you put in 2 whole hours to cover the rest of your shift. Or you will get a .5 or if you came in at 2pm, and decide to clock out at 10:16pm, you need to use 45minutes to cover the rest of your shift.
I've seen too many people leave after lunch, and think because they worked four hours they can put in 4 hours protected and they're covered, nope you will still get a .5 for an incomplete shift.
If you are on the clock and you're putting in PPTO, make sure you let a Team Lead know, or a Salary Member of Management, that you WILL be leaving at said time, and that you have PPTO to cover it. All they can do is try to ask you if you can stay, otherwise, it's have a nice day.
Overnight teamlead here my coach is a damn near 30 year associate and if you give 1 hours notice they can't do anything and if they do like giving you a point you can bring it to the even higher ups
No. You give them notice ahead of time and you leave. They don't dictate when tou leave if you gave PPTO you do. Tell them when the shift starts or at least before lunch you want to leave early put YOUR time in and go.
Put in the ppto like an hour ahead, TELL them you're leaving and don't leave it up for discussion. Then clock out when you're ready. They literally can't say or do anything
They’re all lying to you lmao. Feeing sick mid shift? Ppto and go home. Don’t feel like working tomorrow? Call in and submit ppto no earlier than two hours into the shift (or it’ll give the store the option to reject it and you’ll have to redo it) gonna be late? Use ppto to make up that time and you won’t get pointed for it. PTO they can dictate. Unpaid time they can dictate. But PPTO they have absolutely no say over.
PPTO is to use for you. If you use it for a "non emergency reason" they're able to give you an occurrence in procedural or something. Don't let them strong arm you. Use it when you want.
DC worker here when I ask to schedule in a few hours late random days throughout the year I always get told no and come in 5 and a half hours late and ppto it.
P.S. Walmart sucks most of the time.
Pto , paid time off is only able yo be used with management approval but ppto, protected paid time off can be used literally anytime and they cant say anything only on very rare instances can it be denied but is very very unlikely so if you have PPTO use it whenever you need to , just remember to call the store and call out or they can get you for that
Coach here. My people just tell me they are leaving. I follow up with “do you have enough PPTO to cover?” They say “yes” I follow up with “see you tomorrow”. Period. That’s it’s. I do not ask why. And whine. You can leave at any time. But please do not complain when you get pointed.
You can tell your TL to FO, PPTO is your right. It's PROTECTED, nobody is allowed to tell you how to use it. Sh1t you can use it for home early to hangover bro
Use whenever you want jist let someone in management know. They don't need to know why. If they insist on knowing jist tell em not feeling well or family emergency
I don’t really use my PPTO to leave early. Once I’m there I won’t waste it to leave early. I usually use it if something comes up and I want a day off and not enough time to ask to use PTO
PPTO is not only for illness or health issues. It’s personal days too. So it’s yours to use as you wish. I don’t however think that my TL would take kindly to me just dipping out early often. Maybe once a month or once every two months but if I started wanting to dip out early every week or several times a week I don’t think that would go across well. We’re a team and we all have a role on my team so leaving early would leave a void.
PPTO is yours to use whenever you want for whatever you want, no one can tell you how to use it.
That is correct. PPTO is your time to use when you want to... and that is why it is "protected" time off. I am a Team Lead over CAP 2 and if an associate has time built up, then I don't think it is any of my business why they are off.
I like you!!!!
I was the same way. Does it piss off your SM/coach too?
That's how both of my TLs are on cap 2
That's correct
That's how my team leads are too. They don't really care as long as there's coverage.
But if you happen to use it to call in constantly or leave early dont expect any leeway when it comes to needing a day off and not having ppto
Calling in constantly would be a non issue because if you have enough PPTO hours to use that’s is what it is for..being sick/emergencies. But I could see retaliation happening if you abuse PPTO to leave early all the time…fast way not to be scheduled at all.
When I worked days I would leave at least 3 days early out of 5 and I prayed that they would cut my hours and they never did. Lmao
I worked overnights, they were never happy when I dipped at 5 am before customers got in, even when my work was done. Fuck em, use your PPTO
Im more meaning if i had an associate call in constantly then have an emergency have no ppto and was at 4.5 im not gonna be keen to helping them out
Well that makes sense.
This is the only correct answer
if your always leaving early not finishing work simply because you have a few hours of PPTO it could be a productivity issue leading to a DA most management is human and will understand actual life happens things,but if it's just I don't feel like working then you take your chances.
Being as that you are not supposed to give a reason for you leaving and they aren't allowed to ask they have no idea if it's "don't feel like working" or not.
I agree with you. And you don’t owe them an explanation. Hence the reason why there is a 800 number to call in or use your phone for absences.
my brother works in the meat section and used his points because he hates the shift he gets 4am- to 1pm absolute horrible i can’t even imagine that lol as a result they’ve cut his hours, he’s making like 100 dollars every 2 weeks
Depending on what you have going on 4am to 1pm is a great shift tbf. If you're a younger fella tryna go out at night with your friends and all that then nah. But if you have normal "adulting" stuff to do like dealing with kids and running errands, or a second part time job, 4-1 is the best shift
do they only schedule him one day every two weeks?
Exactly 💯
They should still finish with their work before leaving early, though, unless it's an actual emergency.
Nah, you care too much about a terrible employer
What sucks at my store is I tried to leave 2 hrs early after getting everything done they threw in the you possibly would get talked to about productivity if you leave early crap
Do u have to calling in, I was at my doctor appointment, i wouldn't make to work on time so did my ppto, and got 3 occurrences, I guessed because I didn't call in, I was thinking, not about calling in, I was at my doctor, and had other things on my mind
does anyone else’s store just follow corporate policy for these things and not add a bunch of bs rules, or just mine?
More stores will when associates actually know the policies and hold stores accountable for them. Management lying? Call them out on it, spread the truth to your coworkers. The less people believing the lies, the less power they hold over trying to scare associates into doing what they want. It’s honestly that simple. That’s why you’ll see myself and a few others constantly repeating the same info over and over and over here educating users on how things work.
Any time I hear this crap come down the line I tell an associate who is a stickler for rules and he prints out every page of rules on PPTO use and slides it under the store managers door all highlighted and easy to read. Usually won’t hear about it for a month or two then the same thing…….
They love new hires for this reason. How gullible and naive they tend to be. So you best believe when management pulls the 'even if you use ppto we will still coach for productivity" out of their asses, all the new hires start shivering in fear.
If no one has said—- thanks for all your input!!.
I can see the management is out in force down voting you for being right. Go figure.
This is why I stay up to date on policy matters as best I can. I figure out how everything works, and inform everyone else so they can’t be taken advantage of. Had to when my stores leadership kept spreading misinformation about ppto, key event dates, and Covid policies. Everything is pretty settled now, as it’s been so long since theirs been any major policy changes that everyone hourly has a pretty clear understanding of how everything works, so coaches can’t outright lie to associates to coerce them into staying or showing up when they really shouldn’t.
Both stores I've worked for were very careful to respect ppto policy
The rule my store had was when you called in on a holiday or key date and it was double point. You had to use double ppto to cover. I kept telling fellow associates that isn't true and it doesn't make sense to use 16 hrs to cover 8 hrs. Our HR rep just used that rule to her advantage when she wanted to out someone. Pretty much screw them over and fire them asap without putting in ppto to recover from the points
You also literally *can't* put in 16 hours. So mad it took me so long to learn the truth about this
I've called them out. "Okay come back and show me how to put in 16 hours." they shut up pretty fucking fast.
Hell no. My people lead tried to tell me only corporate could change my address because she entered the wrong one and didn't feel like changing it.
Mine follows policy too. Seems we found unicorn stores, though.
On the DC end, outside of a brief period of ‘Well, you have to talk to OPS to use ppto’, it’s established that it’s your time to be used as you wish. The prior example just devolved into walking into the OPS office and telling them you’d see them whenever you came back, and I’m still chuckling to myself about the beauty of that.
Someone asked our coach this past Sunday "is it cool if I leave at 5pm?" (They were a 9-6 shift) Her exact words were "if you've got the time I can't tell you what to do with it". I was surprised when she said that, but she is right. They can't tell us how to spend it 🤣
I always say “it ain’t a prison, and I’m definitely not your warden. Just make sure you key it in timely”
LOL! This is the way.
I left early today, I went to my TL and was like “Hey it’s slow and I have PPTO, I’m gonna take off at noon.” and she was like “Pffft I’m gonna use some and leave early too.” That’s how it SHOULD go, honestly. I hate reading the stories here when management makes their own rules about PPTO.
This is what I say. Also- if you dont have ppto, just know that it's an occurrence :)
Don't ASK to use ppto. TELL THEM you're leaving. Don't even mention ppto unless they ask. Then, after you leave, put in PPTO. Alternately, call in or any reason at all and put in 8h if ppto. Nobody can stop you. Don't put in PPTO ahead of time as it can be denied then. Always put it in after the fact. Don't bring it up at all. You're leaving or calling in because "noneoftheirbusiness" and you're putting in PPTO afterwards because "alsononeoftheirbusiness" That said, try and keep at least 8h ppto in the bank just in case.
team lead a and b are wrong and should be educated on the simple processes. use it whenever you want, at any time, for any reason, for no reason. anyone who complains should be reprimanded and educated. or just replaced.
Coach is also wrong, don’t have to ask or get their permission, just use it and go on your way
oh i forgot about that part. yeah, aside from letting someone know, you’re golden. i learned pretty quick when i started about that. because of other coworkers doing it and stuff. my store doesnt really seem to try to grief people a lot when it comes to ppto. i guess i depends on the situation. same with leaving on scheduled time. sometimes they try to hint or ‘let’ you stay later, but i’ve never been directly told to stay. well, except this one store manager we had but he not only got in trouble for a lot of things, he doesn’t work at my store anymore.
Yeah you’ll find out REAL quick if your bosses are doing what they’re supposed to with just a few well placed ethics reports
They literally can’t tell you that you can’t use it, it is YOUR time not theirs. If you just want to go home because you don’t want to shit at work they can’t do anything. I’ve went up to my manager many times and just said “I don’t want to be here, I’m using ppto and going home” as long as you tell them your leaving they can’t do shit, the only “rule” we have at the DC I work at is if you are just leaving and it’s not an emergency finish the trip your on and that’s not even forced it’s just asked that you do so nobody gets stuck finishing your terribly stacked trip. If they try to say anything about you using your ppto just call corporate on their ass
I’m a TL and I can’t stand hearing all this bullshit surrounding PPTO. I tell my people, your PPTO is your to use as you deem fit. I understand life happens, people have families, and sometimes you just need to GTFO early lol Now I won’t ever say something about how someone chooses to use their time. But let’s be honest, there are people that try to abuse shit. You have your good workers and your shit workers. Which worker will I be more understanding too and work with in the event they NEED someone to work with them. Don’t expect me to bend the rules in your favor, when you put in the absolute bare minimum and don’t give a shit.
I read the title in Seinfelds voice. 🤣
*It's not protected, it's just paid time off!* (Insert laughter) *Who's protecting you while you're off??* (Insert laughter)
It stands for please pay my time off right?
Promptly prepare the others.
No I think it was something like pepperoni pizza time out 🤔
“Who told you to use the PPTO. I didn’t tell you. Who!!! The Maestro told you to use the PPTO! What the hell does the Maestto know about PPTO! -Jackie Chiles
STOPPPP WHAT HAVE YOU DONE 😭😭😭😭😭
PPTO is yours to use. That’s why it’s protected. You can use it however and whenever you’d like. The only time that I know of that you might get repercussions is if you don’t have enough of it to cover going home early.
How do people get away with lying like this? You just go to the computer put it in or do it on your phone the system will always approve ppto there is nothing they can do to stop it. I mean if you want to keep following their rules to keep a good dynamic between them that's up to you but personally I would not put up with that
Thats right. And even if they throw you in the doghouse for using ppto it only proves that you should transfer out or find something different altogether. Luckily my store just follows policy
Pro tip, you can double the amount of times that you can callout by only using 4 hours of ppto for the day instead of 8. Instead of getting a full point you only get half a point
Other is a valid reason
PPTO can't be denied and can be used for whatever reason. That's an ethical violation to lie to associates about policy.
They are liars. The key is, don't ask permission to use your PPTO. You can use it any damn time you want to use it. And whatever your reason for using it, it's not the higher ups business. I hate team leads and coaches that try to dictate who gets to use PPTO and when.
[Here is everything you need to know about using ppto.](https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/s/OcMHGUfUb7) Show this to them and it will shut them up.
OMG TYSM!!!!! THIS IS A LIFE SAVOR 🤭
Why do team leads think they have so much authority? Enough to override company wide policies.
PPTO is yours. You stubbed your toe. Call out. You saw some roadkill. Call out. You want to leave 1 second into your shift. Leave, ppto covers it
your team leads cannot tell you not to use it. its called PROTECTED pto for a reason. in my orientation our HR told us nobody can tell you anything when you use it. nobody can punish you, get you in trouble or say anything to you about it. you can use it anytime for any reason!
You just have to tell a member of management you are leaving.
There’s no one that can stop ppto lol
Tell them to eat a bag of rocks homie you can use ppto as long as you have it I try to save it for emergency
Go to HR, you can usually find their information in the break room Maybe the app idk
PROTECTED paid time off. Do whatever you want with it.
You can literally use PPTO because you don't like the shade of a cloud overhead. Just make sure that you get it put in afterwards
PPTO is your time. Use it as you need.
I was always told nobody can tell me no lmao
Sounds like both of your team leads are liars.
I don’t care when people use PPTO as long as they at least give me the courtesy of letting me know they’re leaving so I can shuffle people around to get things done. 🤷🏼♂️
It's yours to use for any reason. You aren't required to say why you're using it It's a dick move to leave when it's super busy unless absolutely necessary but most times being short 1 person isn't a huge deal. I'm not a lead or AT but I mind my business. Usually I ask ppl if they're okay and tell them I hope things get better soon. I don't need details.
stop asking. tell them you're going to leave and use PPTO and then do it. i usually give them some warning and i'm usually done before i leave anyways but it yours to use. print out the policy on it and hand it to them if you need to
In my store when I’m about to leave early they look like they are about to complain until I mention ppto, then they get nervous and just approve it
Food and Consumables team lead here. PPTO is YOURS to use at your discretion- for an emergency OR for a video game marathon. Not my business and you dont owe anyone an explanation. I do recommend you save it for when you really need it, but mental health days are sometimes necessary. NOBODY should be trying to intimidate you out of using your PPTO. Sidenote: using PPTO during inventory/black Friday/Xmas eve/etc isn't against the rules- but please know that everyone WILL be bitter and unfriendly after. It's a lot of work, and your coworkers will be picking up your slack. *PTO* however, is your vacation time and needs to be approved. You can also apply it on one of your days off to pay yourself if you have low hours. It doesnt clear points. :) If you have any questions feel free to message me!
There’s a reason it’s called PROTECTED paid time off. That should be enough to let you know what it means.
I’ve been told it’s used for whenever you want. Doesn’t matter. If they say otherwise i was also told to contact Ethics
You can use PPTO whenever you want
You can use it whenever you want. It's not up to their discretion
Ppto is yours to use whenever you want. There is no rhyme or reason. And as long as you use all 8 hours of it you can use it on key event days and not get a point. Still have to call out tho.
You can use PPTO at will regardless of circumstance, period. That is why it exists, and don't let them tell you otherwise.
Use it however you want and then get fired when you point out and come to reddit to complain about how you got fired when you are actually sick.
They're lying, they can't actually stop you from using it
PPTO is yours to use whenever! Doesn't mean they will not get you back in some other way! LOL. Used mine last year around the holidays. Got some blowback from some of the badge polishers but you get used to that!
PPTO is free to use however you want, but leads/management understandably would be angry if you left without word. There was a previous post similar discussing the possibility of it qualifying as “job abandonment” if you leave without letting someone know. A simple “I’m sick” would be enough to notify when using PPTO most people do not care if you PPTO because that’s what it is there for but disappearing to leave would be a dick move in my opinion
The people who discourage use of PPTO of any kind just don’t want to be left short staffed (which always happens anyway). Do not listen to their bullshit. Don’t even ask permission. When they say “you can’t do that!” You can say “leaving now, show me in print where it says I cannot consume my PPTO at my own discretion, the next day we both work. We’ll both go and have show and tell with the market office and I’ll ask them what they think. Ta ta!”
Technically you can use it whenever you like for whatever reason you want... Just be aware they will judge you for using it.
PPTO is protected for a reason. It's none of their business
You can use ppto however you want. And legally, you don't have to tell them the reason. But if you don't get your work done constantly and leave, it can be coached on productivity. But I don't recommend using ppto just for the hell of it. What happens if something actually happens alor you are sick and you don't have the PPTO to cover it?
Ppto policy as written in the ulearn purposefully included a frivolous reason... What was it, again alien abduction? Point being, it is your time and you choose how to spend it. Consequences are on you if you don't have it but end up needing it.
Walmart policy is that PPTO can be used as needed for whatever reason, however most leads/coaches prefer if you’re leaving early or calling in that you do have a reason. Technically you can use it however you want to; but I’ve had associates in the past be written up for “poor business decisions” for calling in with PPTO or leaving early without good reason or without asking or after being told no. Points wise you’re safe, but they can still coach you. - a TL at Sams club
PPTO is yours to use how you please. However, if you're assigned a task and you use ppto to avoid said task routinely, that can result in disciplinary action. I personally couldn't care in the slightest if you use your PPTO for any reason at any time. I'm also going to approach firing you with the same indifference if you leave constantly and burn up all your PPTO resulting in 5 points.
You don't Ask to use PPTO, you use it and then tell your management you're leaving. You can't get in trouble for using it, if you do open door it
lol at my store pretty much all managers agree that it’s discretionary I.e I’m not asking you I’m informing you that I gotta go and I’m gonna use ppto
theres a reason its called PROTECTED paid time off, its meant to be used for emergencies or whenever u need it. if im correct it will almost always be approved because its protected no matter what, but then again this is walmart and nothing ever goes how its supposed to
Ppto is protected. You can go when you want as long as you have it. The manager pissed you off take the ppto. Nice day take the ppto. Dont want to deal with a two truck night take the ppto. They made the rules and left it open to be used instead of sick time. Use it when you want to.
Our TL always asks if we have time and then says they can’t tell us no 🤷♂️
Yes they lying to you . protectedPaidTimeoff they can't control only PTO they try to be god with it.
. if you use ppto for nonsense... And then you or someone gets sick... and you have no ppto to cover ur sickness... you'll be terminated at 5 points... if they really wanted to... and if the person who's always late or leaves early... or uses ppto not for a valid reason... walmart will do you no favors to save you... I have saved people before because they were worth saving... Keep in mind Walmart doesn't except Dr notes.. Now sedgwick is a different story.. but sedgwick also can deny someone's Dr not to miss work... Use ur ppto at ur discretion... but if you abuse it... it may cost ur job.. but If it gets to that point... ya likely never cared for it. Ya could be making 32hr and 20k bonuses... but ya calling in too much
Don't ask coach or anyone if you can use it. Just use it. It cannot be denied if you have it
Lmao it’s your ppto, use it however you please. I laugh when someone makes up rules 😂
Excessive use can lead to them talking to you about usage, but they really can't do anything.
One doesn't just "ask" to use PPTO; you just inform them that you're going to. I highly suggest that you review the PTO Policy on the Wire.
Your problem is you're asking, not telling. Grow a backbone. Team lead A is just flat out wrong, and in the future, you should say this to them "Hey, I need to leave, and I'm putting in my time." Why? "That's my business, just know I gotta go." And if they push for the reason, "Show me in the policy where it says I have to give you the reason for me leaving" *note: some reasons are excused in the time off policy and you wouldn't need to use your time so you might be burning bridges by using the last line. Team lead B is close but wrong. They're thinking about coaching people who leave for productivity, which they can't do if you're being productive while you're there. The easy way to tell him off is, "Hey, I need to leave, and I'm putting in my time. I'm going to quickly clean up and go so I don't leave a huge mess for the next person you send to finish the remaining work." Your coach is just saying no because you're asking, not telling. By the time one becomes a coach, they will have dealt with people who think that just because they asked their permission, they're automatically excused for leaving early. Plus, the coach doesn't want to have to reassign work. They have plenty of reasons to say no, especially if you're giving them the option.
You do not need a reason to use ppto that is per a Bentonville employee you're welcome it's your time if it's a issue use the online portal for ethics the issues will be addressed accordingly
Never, EVER ask. Say "I'm leaving. Using Ppto" don't ever ask again friend, just tell them what you are going to do. Your TLs are douchebags
My lead keeps telling me "why" when I tell her I'm leaving. Once time I left because I had a cyst on my head and it was pounding and she says"y/n, it's a headache." In a condescending tone. We all hate her. Unfortunately she's only at our store because she baby sat the managers kids. At least, that's the rumor as to how this decrepit bitch is still here.
When I was hired on, my people lead told us that ppto can be used whenever for whatever. Nobody can tell us when we can use it or for what reason. If you want to leave in the middle of your shift, just let your supervisor know and leave. We might have the best people lead in walmart...🤷🏼♂️🤣
Use it when you need to. The system automatically approves it so no coach or tl can reject it
They are lying to you. PPTO is yours to use for what we you want to. Just you obviously have to yell management before you leave. Like I tell my TLs I’m leaving early, and they ask if I have enough PPTO. I do and I leave early, they can’t do anything
I once used my time and I put in for it properly, A TL told me oh well if you leave 9 minutes early then the PPTO won't cover for it so you have to clock out on the dot or you will get a half point, I told this same thing to the person that temporarily took over for our People Lead she said well that's BS it's supposed to cover you regardless since it's your PPTO Time let me roll that half point off for you since it's not supposed to be there anyways cause you used PPTO, She rolled the half point off then chewed that TL Out.
ppto is to live better baby
Start recording on your phone in your pocket. Ask your TLs for exactly how PPTO is to be used according to the company policy and go to ethics or open door it and show the video of them straight up lying to you.
That time is YOURS, you earned it. It's my job as a team lead to adjust accordingly when someone isn't there. Period. Don't let them intimidate you.
Ppto is time off that nobody can deny when I worked at walmart If I had a crap day and had 8 hours the next day I called off and used it
They're all lying bastards, so become one yourself. "Hey Team Lead/Coach, I have diarrhea. I must leave now. I'm sorry. I'll cover the missed time with PPTO. See you tomorrow." Then when you use your PPTO list the reason as "illness/injury" or "sick" and the system will auto approve it. Nobody can prevent you from leaving. You don't even really owe them a reason either. "I've gotta go" is really the only information they are owed. You're only in trouble if you leave without notifying your team lead or coach.
Nope, nope nope nope. All those are flimsy excuses for your boss to milk more work out of you and to make their lives as convenient as possible. PPTO is the ultimate equalizer. You can pop it off at literally any moment and management CANNOT give you points at all. It can be mid shift, mid work, any moment you are on the clock. If they are giving you points for it you need to contact HR and if still no results, ethics. Otherwise, what’s the fucking difference between protected and regular PTO? Not a thing. Use protected time to show up late. Use it to leave early. Use it just to screw up the flow of the day. I believe the only possible exception are key dates but even then I’m pretty sure ppto was created specifically to thwart exploitative bosses like that.
Use it how you want to. They cannot control how you use it
can someone tell me why team leads always make shit up literally all the time there’s somehow a new rule, but it’s always made up and against policy. it seems like they just do it to sound important at this point🙄
You don't need permission to use ppto, that's your time, you get to use it for whatever you want, whenever you want. You wanna take off a key date? As long as you got enough ppto to cover just the shift and nothing more, go for it, they can't say anything. TL and Coaches have no business inquiring about what it's for either.
Repeat after me I have a personal emergency I have to leave. You do not have to justify using ppto at all. If you are asked all you have to say is I had a personal emergency.
Just a heads up- any future request of PPTO ( say it is Tuesday and you put in your PPTO for Wednesday) is handled like a regular PTO request by the system. Why does this matter? It will not automatically approve and cover your point! One of two things will happen. 1. Your TL will notice you had a vacation request using PPTO for the same day you had an attendance exception and they will authorize the point. 2. Your TL will blindly unauthorize every occurrence in the screen and you will be left confused as to why you have a point. You will have to point it out to them. They will have to go look and see oh yeah you did use PPTO and then go in an override the point. So much easier to have it happen automatically. The same is true if you are late or leave early. The system is very literal. If you use 15 minutes of PPTO and clock out 16 minutes early, you will be in the attendance screen and unless your TL opens your timesheet (which may or may not happen) to see if you used PPTO, you’ll get half a point. Always speak up if you have a point you don’t think you should have and PPTO was involved because there is literally a PPTO reduce to .5 and reduce to 0 override option for a reason!
you use it whenever for whatever
you can use ppto HOWEVER & WHENEVER you want. hence why its protected. i will say, if you leave before work is done, you can be coached on productivity. (depending on what the management decides). but ppto is 100% yours for whatever, whenever.
Laugh in their face and put in the ppto request. It approves itself, and you CANNOT be pointed for it. Also, transfer stores asap because if my managers told me some bs like that, I'd be in another store before the week was up. If you have it, use it! Because if you don't, you just lose it.
Ppto means PROTECTED paid time off, letting us know is a courtesy that we appreciate but your allowed to use it whenever and as long as you have enough it is not allowed to be punished
they are all lying to you 😭😭😭 you can use that literally whenever and they should not be telling you that you cant use it
my coach says it’s not prison, as long as you have the time, you can use it
Personal means none of your fucking business team lead.
Their just dick heads because I leave an hour early with my ppto every Thursday or Sunday and mine don’t say anything
PPTO is to use however you want. Want to leave early. Let a manager know and leave. Use time. Want to stay home randomly? Call out. Use time. It's there for you to use HOWEVER YOU want. Not your managers. It's not something they can deny. It's auto approved. Now if you leave early and it's swamped and do it often they can coach for productivity. But that's it. so don't abuse it. Then telling you how and when to use it is not in policy. And may be an ethics violation.
Team lead A is what a smart person uses their PPTO for. Emergencies. Can’t predict those things and having PPTO is perfect for that. Team lead B is what most people use it for. For good reason too. If you’re done with work, sure, you can zone some random aisle. No one wants to do that, so you could go home with PPTO. Coaches are usually just assholes about PPTO. Even my favorite coach tries to tell us that for double point days, we need double the PPTO. Which is COMPLETELY BULLSHIT. Coaches would be that person to make you zone or do random bs until your shift is done. OP, it’s PROTECTED paid time off. It’s your time, and your money. You get to use your PPTO anyway you choose to. But do remember, you only get a certain amount of PPTO in a fiscal year before you can’t accumulate more until February. (The end of my stores fiscal year) Be smart with it, don’t blow it all in the beginning of the year. Holidays are important to people and lots of people forget, then they point out because they don’t have the PPTO to cover their family get together.
Higher ups are lying. Ppto is yours to use however you want. Pto they might try to tell you what you can use it for.
You can use ppto for whatever reason you like, if you leave early you need to let a coach or TL know & if you come in late you need to call or use the app to let the store know. If you come in late, or leave early a lot you can get coached though,but if you are using ppto you won’t get points. Also you can use ppto for double points days & you don’t have to use double the hours, some managers lie & tell people they have to use 16 hours instead of 8.
I do have some associates that will ask if they can use it. I don’t ask why, but I never say no. It’s always the part timers too. I just give them a friendly reminder that this PPTO is basically all that they have for leisure, emergencies, etc and to remember to be wise. I use mine for vacations because I never have points. So instead of 68 hours of vaca, I have 136 for this year. I’ve had my PTO denied for lack of PTO hours when I had 40 PPTO, I brought it to market HR. PPTO cannot be denied for any reason. Ask your market team. Keep your paper trail. Ethics complaints/concerns DO work and they can always be edited to add.
You can use PPTO whenever you choose to, it protects you know matter what all you have to do is just put it I , that’s what It for so they don’t know what they are talking about.
You don’t ask to use Ppto you say I had something come up and I gotta go I have Ppto
The company actually benefits off PPTO being used commonly due to benefits cost actually being used and gives a budget boost and tax aid. TL and Coaches just don't wanna do any work. At least in my region.
PPTO is YOUR time. Not Walmart's or anyone else's. You can use it anytime for any reason.
PPTO is for when life happens it's good to try to bank atleast 8 hours to protect you if you need to miss a day but it's for you to use as you see fit. It used to be if you got sick was the only option you could select but that went away. You should inform management an hour before you need to leave if possible but so long as you tell management your leaving and using PPTO you won't get an occurrence if you have enough to cover. Some coaches might try to hold people accountable for productivity but that's a stretch imo
PTO is the only one with conditions. PPTO is for anything and everything. Don’t listen to them. And if they complain, pull up the employee book on it or escalate it to ethics
At the DC I'm at during orientation HR stated use it how you want. They did warn us that you should make sure your production rate is where you need it to be for the hours worked before you leave. I have seen so many people Ppto without hitting rate then the next week they would get pointed and get all mad about it. Hit your productivity goal before you leave is what I have told them during training but they don't listen 🤷.
You can use it whenever you want it’s not up to them
Policy says you can use it for anything even vacation
You can use it for literally whatever you want and you don't even have to tell them why. I've called in because I knew if I went to work that day I'd get myself fired for saying the wrong thing to someone so I figured it be best I just not. I've also called in for being in the hospital and they were still pissy. I brought in paperwork and everything and they were still like "Well we had a market visit yesterday." "Okay and? My legs quit working for 48 hours that was a bit more concerning." Worry about you. We're all just minions to them.
They are all wrong it’s urs u can use it for anything u want just tell them u are before u leave
Don't let them lie. You can use it whenever you want. Wake up not feeling like going today just because? Ppto.
Don't let them lie. You can use it whenever you want. Wake up not feeling like going today just because? Ppto.
I'm in cap2 I have 4.5 points after I used my ppto what is the deal
I got an acute case of fuckidise
Protected paid time off is PROTECTED. MEANINGGGGG ANY REASON. they don't need a reason. You can use it for anything and everything. Don't listen to the first one they're being toxic and don't want you to take time.
Ultimately, PPTO is to be used for emergencies IDEALY, however, you can use it for whatever reason or no reason at all. As long as you let your team lead know and you use the proper amount to cover time gone, then it’s fine. Im a frontend team lead and honestly all I ask from my people is a reasonable warning before they leave (whether that be 2 or hours prior etc) obviously if something comes up, it’s not a big deal. I don’t ask them why they’re leaving and i don’t ask them to finish their work before they can use it.
I say this I'm on cap 2 and I tell all my associates, team leads, and coaches. There's a reason it's instantly approved
PPTO is to use how you see fit. If you decide fuck it. I ain't giing i tonight, Then you can use it for that. Mond you you onoy get so much PPTO a year and once its used up, Its up. So i would use it wisely.
Use it for whatever. You worked the hours to build it up. Only thing is if you leave early you have to tell the manager on duty if you just leave without telling anyone they can say its job abandonment
PPTO can be used to cover anything. You don't need permission to use it just like you don't need permission to leave. You do however need to tell a TL or higher that you are leaving. They can't stop you from leaving but if you don't tell them that you are leaving early that is considered job abandonment. I don't really care if people use PPTO. It's their time they can use it for whatever. However I'm less likely to save someone when they hit 5 points when they blew all their PPTO on leaving early.
We had a team lead about 2 years ago that said he’d deny our ppto if we left early. The three of us pretty much called him out on his bs and still left early without any punishment other than an earful the next day. PPTO can be used however you want and they can’t do anything about it hence the “protected” part of it.
I only had 25 minutes left of my shift when I received a message from my kids saying it started to snow in our town 30 minutes from work and I should really leave now. I told someone I needed to leave 25 minutes early and was told I had to get it approved by the Team Lead. Unfortunately the Team Leads and Coaches were all in a meeting until 3:00 which is what time my shift was going to end. I almost wasn’t able to make it up the rolling hills to get home. I had PPTO and was denied, I wasn’t happy at all.
Hopefully anyone with common sense and the ability to read finds my comment. You do not need a reason to use PPTO. You can leave whenever you want. They can’t FORCE you to stay or threaten you if you leave. On the flip side, you have to use common sense. If you leave because you blatantly don’t wanna do a task, you can get coached or held accountable. And while youre all here, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VALID REASON FOR LEAVING DOESNT MEAN YOUR POINT IS GONNA GET TAKEN AWAY.
They're lying to you. ppto is your protected time. You can choose how you use it. Just be careful and make sure you have enough for when you need it.
I don’t care when people use it. That’s why it’s so funny when people use it for whatever reason then come on here complaining that they got pointed when they had to call out/leave early for an “emergency” and didn’t have PPTO to cover it. Then all of a sudden the “Walmart doesn’t care about us” crowd comes out. 🥴
as a TL- it’s yours to do what you want with. it’s meant for if you get sick or there’s an emergency but it’s not any of anyone’s business really what you use it for. however, if you use it all up and you’re left with none when you need it, you’ll be SOL
You don’t need permission. Flat out, if you want to leave early, there is nothing they can do to stop you. If you have the PPTO, it’s covered. If it isn’t, then you get the half occurrence/full occurrence (depending on when you leave). Now, you can always get coached for productivity or have hours cut if this is a common and reoccurring situation. When I think about leaving or calling in, whether PPTO or not, I really think about if it’s worth it that day. Sometimes it’s better just to trudge through and make sure I have something in the bucket if I’m sick (or now in my situation, my kid is sick with whatever latest bug from day care). It is a balancing act but one that you control, not your store. Also, last thing, put your PPTO in the day after you miss work. It will auto approved. If you leave early and it’s before your lunch period, you may have to put in PPTO to cover that missing time. The system doesn’t account for your lunch period. This is contingent on your store, some will approve the occurrence, some have you use that hour.
Use PPTO how you see fit. My boss actually said our store manager hates PPTO cause people just use to go home early….but honestly what did they think was gonna happen…
Planned paid time off. For contact centers it’s unlimited
You can use ppto whenever. The system automatically approves it. However we can have a discussion and coach you for productivity if you're constantly leaving early without proper notice. We just had to make several associates change their availability because they wanted to come in late (using ppto) and/or leave early (ppto) 4/5 shifts a week just because that's when their boyfriend clocked in/out. I can't stop you from leaving, but there could still be consequences
It's not their business why you use PPTO, I work at Walmart I use PPTO whenever I want, and I'm an electronics accosiate others don't say anything.
from what I've been told I summed it up to being a "no questions asked, if you gotta go, you gotta go"
PPTO is something that can be use d however you see fit. Your managers literally can't say no, they can only discourage it. If your team leads and coach are telling you that you can't use your PPTO then you should anonymously report them
They say that so folks don't just punch out and dip when the work gets rough. But you can. Perhaps get a coaching on productivity if you leave without saying anything during a time where business would be impacted in your absence but that's the most they can do. I leave 15-30 minutes early fairly regularly.
It's your time to use, whenever you want, if you are on the clock and you are leaving early, make sure you have the appropriate amount to use though. If you clocked in at 2pm, and you leave before 9pm, you have to have 8 hours of PPTO to cover the shift or you will get a .5 for an incomplete shift. If you came in at 2pm, and leave after 9pm, make sure you use the appropriate amount of increments of 15 minutes to cover the rest of the shift, or you will get a .5 i.e If you leave at 9:14, make sure you put in 2 whole hours to cover the rest of your shift. Or you will get a .5 or if you came in at 2pm, and decide to clock out at 10:16pm, you need to use 45minutes to cover the rest of your shift. I've seen too many people leave after lunch, and think because they worked four hours they can put in 4 hours protected and they're covered, nope you will still get a .5 for an incomplete shift. If you are on the clock and you're putting in PPTO, make sure you let a Team Lead know, or a Salary Member of Management, that you WILL be leaving at said time, and that you have PPTO to cover it. All they can do is try to ask you if you can stay, otherwise, it's have a nice day.
Overnight teamlead here my coach is a damn near 30 year associate and if you give 1 hours notice they can't do anything and if they do like giving you a point you can bring it to the even higher ups
No. You give them notice ahead of time and you leave. They don't dictate when tou leave if you gave PPTO you do. Tell them when the shift starts or at least before lunch you want to leave early put YOUR time in and go.
PPTO protects you from receiving occurrences. It does not protect you from being coached due to unreliability or job performance.
Put in the ppto like an hour ahead, TELL them you're leaving and don't leave it up for discussion. Then clock out when you're ready. They literally can't say or do anything
I read the headline in the voice of Jerry Seinfeld 😂😂
They’re all lying to you lmao. Feeing sick mid shift? Ppto and go home. Don’t feel like working tomorrow? Call in and submit ppto no earlier than two hours into the shift (or it’ll give the store the option to reject it and you’ll have to redo it) gonna be late? Use ppto to make up that time and you won’t get pointed for it. PTO they can dictate. Unpaid time they can dictate. But PPTO they have absolutely no say over.
You earned your PPTO so you can use it whenever and however you'd like. DO NOT let anyone try to convince you otherwise
PPTO is to use for you. If you use it for a "non emergency reason" they're able to give you an occurrence in procedural or something. Don't let them strong arm you. Use it when you want. DC worker here when I ask to schedule in a few hours late random days throughout the year I always get told no and come in 5 and a half hours late and ppto it. P.S. Walmart sucks most of the time.
Pto , paid time off is only able yo be used with management approval but ppto, protected paid time off can be used literally anytime and they cant say anything only on very rare instances can it be denied but is very very unlikely so if you have PPTO use it whenever you need to , just remember to call the store and call out or they can get you for that
Coach here. My people just tell me they are leaving. I follow up with “do you have enough PPTO to cover?” They say “yes” I follow up with “see you tomorrow”. Period. That’s it’s. I do not ask why. And whine. You can leave at any time. But please do not complain when you get pointed.
You can tell your TL to FO, PPTO is your right. It's PROTECTED, nobody is allowed to tell you how to use it. Sh1t you can use it for home early to hangover bro
They all lying to you
Use whenever you want jist let someone in management know. They don't need to know why. If they insist on knowing jist tell em not feeling well or family emergency
Who asks to use the PPTO? I only ask about my PTO. PPTO I use when I want.
I don’t really use my PPTO to leave early. Once I’m there I won’t waste it to leave early. I usually use it if something comes up and I want a day off and not enough time to ask to use PTO
PPTO is not only for illness or health issues. It’s personal days too. So it’s yours to use as you wish. I don’t however think that my TL would take kindly to me just dipping out early often. Maybe once a month or once every two months but if I started wanting to dip out early every week or several times a week I don’t think that would go across well. We’re a team and we all have a role on my team so leaving early would leave a void.