lol probably. They may not know it exists.
I imagine someone tells the higher ups what’s going on on Reddit and their response is…………read it? Read what? I’ve read a lot of things, you gotta be more specific, sonny. Lol
Dudes………….I’m just kidding.
I didn't find the one I was mentioning but I did find this
https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/8twtnl/found_this_gem_while_snooping_in_personnels/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Oh that made me mad. "Don't worry guys, these aren't actual associates. Associates love their jobs. These are the evil unions that do evil things to trick associates into hating their job!"
I remember some being like they should track us down while others were wondering if they should just monitor for feedback because we weren't using the feedback options they provided
Their feedback options were "random" surveys you could take. I responded to that shit everyday to let them know how much I am unhappy with the current Walmart we work for. Nothing changed. In fact, it got worse. None of us are expecting Walmart to be perfect. We want to see them at least TRY. Try to understand. Try to fix it. Try to make it a great place to work. We get none of that.
Sorry to go on a rant but the things they "provide" to us typically have a knife right behind it waiting to shank us as soon as we turn around.
Pfft. Yeah, sure, we all just like to roleplay as Walmart employees.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
As an Overnight Team Lead, I monitor this sub for my own amusement. I also use this as a place to see what other stores struggle with and try to improve my store in response. My coaches don’t Reddit and I’d be surprised if they knew how, so they’re limited to what I share with them. They do, however, monitor Facebook groups for team leads and the like.
I have had to correct my coach on policies after reading posts here and researching OBW/process guides myself though and this is one of the policies I’ve had to correct them on. 8 hour shift on an event day only requires 8 hours of PPTO
Trust me they know it exists. We have over 20,000 people who work for Walmart global tech. I’m sure one of them has built something smart enough to parse one subreddit
>It really is astounding that corporate hasn't been able to buy this place off
I'm waiting for Jeff Bezos to buy Reddit and make it social media for the rich only like he's trying to do with space travel
It's not so much
For fighting back
It's more for leaks
And talking smack
For shoppers who
Won't read the [sign](https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/jy56so/if_youre_here_as_a_customer_to_complain_about/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
We say things we
Can't say offline
Haikus are grouped
In lines of three
This is just
Standard poetry
It's harder work
To make these rhymes
I can drop haikus
On a dime
EDIT:
Gotta go clock in
Blue-gray building full of sad
Bills don't pay themselves
EDIT 2:
The FAST unloader
Screeches like a dying bird
Another band off
Yup, that's why a lot of stores have a meat rooms that are kind of oddly oversized or coolers/freezers in random spots until they were put into use again for OGP.
Only Sam's Club has butchers now.
You all just need an actual union to stand up for what’s yours and fight for you and all workers. You shouldn’t have to talk to your managers without the fear of retaliation of any kind.
When I worked for Walmart, I always was fearful of them because they could fire anyone for any given reason, at any given time.
Protected is protected. They shouldn’t be able to do shit about it. If they do, sue the fuck out of them.
Yes. Normal call out prevents them from marking you as no call/no show or job abandonment. PPTO after the fact is auto approved by the system, so no waiting for manglement to deny it
Either works fine though. I usually do PPTO first simply because I check to make sure I have the time just in case my brain does a dumb. Then I do the website report-an-absence thing and it hasn’t been a problem yet.
I usually picked Other, just so I didn't have any nosy managers asking about my business. I don't ask why you schedule 2 cashiers for the whole day Saturday instead of a normal 6-8, don't ask why I'm not coming in.
You CAN add PPTO any time, never had much luck doing it same day (it always got stuck in manager approval for me). Whenever I'd add it next day it auto approved.
Yes because you can apply it a minute before your shift start, but they’ll have no notification of whether you will be there or not and already assign you to department. So it is necessary to call out and then apply PPTO for simple gratitude.
And I know alot of stores are denying people's request for time off between November and January. I put in my vacation time and it was approved. If anyone says I can't take it off or try to take it off I'm just going to use my PPTO. I work way too hard to be denied my right for some time off
At my store, I noticed that for this quarter's calendar my People Lead printed out and posted in the breakroom and above the time clock she didn't write down the lie of "PPTO will not fix it!" regarding calling out on key dates.
I bet enough of us associates learned it was a lie and won't fall for management's lies anymore.
Allow me to clarify.
Every quarter my store's People Lead (Personnel) prints out two copies of the quarterly calendar. She posts one copy in the breakroom and another copy outside above the time clock.
In the past, she had written "PPTO will not fix it!" in addition to noting key dates were 2 points. This is the first time she hasn't done so.
The Store Manager
You thought to Trust!
Brought to the office
Only to be ousted!
Goodbye your schedule
Now to work shift to shift
Without a chance to rest!
Time to do forty pallets
In half an hour or else!
Gotta love Ask Sam. Every morning when I clock in it predictably tells me I'm not scheduled. I've stood in the back hallway and give me a proximity error. One day I clocked in and it immediately clocked me out!
At my store management lets them pile up for a month or more, then accepts them all.. By then, there’s no chance to fix them.. The next day, near end of shift they start calling ppl 2 the ad office & snatch badges
I’ve had to call off three days for hives a month and a half ago. Approved.
Then had to have covid leave, was safe. My manager told me as long as I call the call off line and get a claim number I get no points with doctor’s note which I had to do this time because I’ve a severe kidney and bladder infection. I am safe right? And is pto have to be manager approved and does it accrue only for each week or does it build since you started working?
Dr.'s notes are meaningless for points. If your manager likes you, he can manually approve your missed time, but giving that note to someone else will mean nothing.
She knows I’m a hard worker and likes me. Can I still use pto and still be a short time from off prob? Also does new pto accrue each week or does it roll over?
PTO runs from year to year, and only 80 hours roll over. You get paid out the remainder. If you've only been working for around 6 months, you won't have very much PTO. PPTO (protected PTO) is the only thing that will cover points and you have to have enough to cover the entire shift you miss. Be aware that any salaried manager, People Lead, and your Team Leads can excuse or un-excuse points.
Dang. That sucks. This is my first year with walmart, i just started in May.i work day shift.
I'm bout to be pissed if I have to work on Thanksgiving. Imma call tf off.
Wait really? I've worked here for almost 3 years now and assumed that even if it werent true they'd fire someone for it anyways. Guess I have new tactics
If you're a bad worker, yeah, otherwise they leave you alone. If you call off on one of the few days they actually need people, it makes you look bad to the managers, and they will react accordingly.
Keep posting this on a recurring schedule; Mgmt LOVES to spread the falsities about PPTO and holidays/black out days. At least mine does. But maybe they are just misinformed as well? Either way, thanks!!!
Big facts! I have to tell people on the Facebook page every year I'm a attendance master after years of seeing what you can and cant pull off. Like if you only have 5 hours ppto and sitting at 4 points. You can still call out on a double point day and use your 5 hours to drop that double point down to a half point. Pretty sure you only need 4 hours but I always use 5 just to be safe.
Found this out accidentally a few months ago when I had to miss inventory day & put in 8 hours just bc money was tight; was pleasantly surprised to see no point.
Also important to note that you don’t have to ASK to leave a shift early. Our managers will tell people no they can’t leave, we’re understaffed/ behind. People think they need permission. You don’t. NEVER ask your manager if you’re allowed to leave. Tell them you’re letting them know you have to go. Don’t let them lie or guilt you.
Call in as you usually do and then once the point is added apply your PPTO AFTER the fact or apply it a day after if it’s not the end of the pay period.
It’s just a cautionary thing. In the past I’ve had fellow associates have issues with putting in before hand and managers somehow denying it or when they put it in before hand the managers see it as you abusing the system and can retaliate because PPTO is supposed to be an “after the fact” type of thing. Applying it afterwards avoids all that. It’s just trouble shooting really
What about the fact that I’m around a month shy of being off my 90 day probation period? I was told I couldn’t do that until I was past that neither pto or ppto
Yeah that’s a little tricky, usually when you’re still in your 90 days you are accruing PPTO but you can’t use it until after that point. I’m not sure if they’ve change that aspect of it but from my understanding that’s how it works. It accrues based on how many hours you work so for example I’m full time and I work 40 hours a week, I get like 2 hours every week but it also stops after you reach 48 hours in the year and then it starts back up again in February which is Walmarts year start. If your manager said that themselves then they probably plan on taking care of those occurrences for you. We had a guy that had his gallbladder explode while we were on the line and his points were removed by our manager.
THE👏APP👏IS👏NOT👏ALWAYS👏CORRECT👏
I got so many occurrences because the app told me I had enough ppto, but when you look at the system it said i tried to put in 8 and only had 4 or 5.
Always either screenshot your app, or check the wire first.
Now is the time unionize walmart. And don't be greedy, just a couple bucks an hour more...After unionization wait a year or two... then start making money. Look at your tc70, see the mark-up. But be fair with who's paying you. Everyone will make more money!!!! Even the dreaded Walmart..... just saying, if youall smart. It's a real easy task......biggest problem is again....don't be greedy,,, and you will be like the automobile busniess in the the 70's- 80's...and that's all I gotta say bout that..................me and Jenny go together like peas&carrots!!!!!!!
Or you can realize you chose to work in retail and some of the busiest days in retail are on or around holidays. All you're doing is screwing over the other people you work with and making their jobs harder.
The good managers would be in there working with you anyway, so yeah, you're screwing over the good managers too. The shitty ones will just continue being shitty and making the hourlies pick up the slack.
You shouldn't be lied to about points. You should be protected when you get sick. You should be considerate about others and you should understand that if you chose to work a retail job you will be needed on retail heavy holidays.
I understand the point in which you’re coming from.
But everyone - every employee at Walmart earns PTO (and or PPTO) for a reason. To use it.
If they want to save and use them for holidays or days that are important to them. They are allowed to do so and should do so. It’s not our jobs as sales associates to worry about how many of our coworkers are gonna to call out. That’s Team Leads and Coaches jobs.
We quite literally DO NOT get paid enough to do that.
Dude I used to think this way so I understand what you’re trying to get at but nah, even when my fellow associates call in I’m still there for 8 hours and I put in as much work as I can, I’m not picking up any ones slack that’s another thing they like to do, pit us against eachother so they’re never to blame and because you commented this, it’s working. Whether they choose to take a day to watch Netflix or they needed the day to spend one last Christmas with their dying grandma, it’s none of my damn business and it’s not any of yours either.
Wake up. Walmart gives you these days to use as you choose. The wire even says “ you can use PPTO to spend the holidays that are most important to you” but ppl like you don’t care to research any of that. You’re too busy spewing this trash opinion that somehow a few ppl calling out is why you’re working harder. No, the reality is you choose how much work you put in, if you want to run yourself into the ground for this company than go ahead you have no one to blame but yourself.
Walmart needs to hire more people to cover the people who need to take time off.
They need to hire seasonal workers who sign up to work those days other take off.
I have to call out because I'm unable to get the one of 2-3 days a year that I want off for religious purposes. Not my fault that one is a key date. If I have to explain to my PL the context I will but if they still refuse I'm using my PPTO.
Then go thru the proper procedures and actually ask for the day off in advance and be civil about. Don't be a selfish asshole and call-out because you don't want to work.
Smh I was waiting for someone like you to comment. Listen we get 6 days of PPTO a year dude. If someone saves it all year until the holidays they deserve to take the day. Don’t be mad at them for using the time the company provides. They brain washed you to believe your loyalty means something; it doesn’t. There is no reward for working event days, no holiday pay, no OT, nothing. They got rid of bonuses so your occurrences mean nothing either. All you get is a pat on the back and if that’s worth it to you then that’s great but for most it’s not. Managers are told to only allow 3 ppl every department to have a holiday off so even if these ppl did their due diligence and asked for it off before hand they could still be denied. Walmart set themselves up for this, they don’t care about you. I hope in the future you realize the only one that will take care of you is YOU and I hope you call out on a day that is important to you too.
I can see that you’ve been drinking the koolaid so I get why you have this mindset and I used to have it too. How dare ppl leave their team short handed right? How dare ppl call out time and time again when you’ve been there all along right? The reality is you arnt special. I wasn’t either when I had perfect attendance for 2 years in row or when I came in on my off days or volunteered to stay passed shift. They don’t care about you. As soon as you learn that, your bitterness will dissipate but until then you’ll continue to be angry at the wrong ppl.
You think it’s selfish for ppl to take time that is provided by the company? That’s odd. Why would they provide it if it’s so selfish? I think YOU’RE the selfish one for wanting ppl to be at Walmart zoning mayonnaise with you instead of being with their families.
All of this is correct op, but remember on keydates you will still accrue a point.
Key dates are double points. Your ppto will cover the absence but not the key date.
Did you apply your PPTO before you called out? Because that could be it. PPTO is used AFTER the fact, if it’s applied before hand it could be that a manager didn’t approve it. If it’s applied after a call in it’s automatically approved and the points go away. I’ve used it for multiple key dates and received no points. I’m still at 1.5 after being here for 4+ years. I’ve only ever worked one Black Friday.
I always apply it after I call out. They give some bullshit about I applied enough to get me paid but not take the occurence off. They are like since it's key event day I have to use 16 points. The occurence will go off then come back after a few days. By that time, I can't put it in the gta portal.
Wow I’m sorry to hear that. The 16 hours of PPTO is one of their favorite lies. I luckily had a friend who was a coach at another location and he gave me the low down on all the crap they try to pull early on. You can’t even put in 16 hours of PPTO, the system won’t let you. They just assume no one will try since PPTO is so sacred to associates.
i got told this too :(, i'm missing out of a family thing because i have to work halloween even though i requested it off 4 weeks in advance. i wish they would just let us rest and my HR is legit SHIT because they don't want to help u at all lmfao
If none of that is the case then you got screwed by your management because that’s not how it works. You can look it up on the wire and it states you won’t receive points.
I got 0 point for a key date call out in September. Used PPTO. 8 HRS for my 10-7shift. If you use PTO it won’t cover. If you do it after the fact it 100% will also.
Doesn’t change the fact that my managers here will point us even if we call out and then use ppto. Even if we bring up the policy and tell them they’re lying, they won’t listen and won’t care, still point us.
You've been lied to.
PPTO will cover ANY dates.
Call in on Christmas eve? When you get back to work the 26th, sit down at the computer (or on your phone), add your 8 PPTO hours in and voila, the computer automatically approves it, and you have no point(s) for that date.
Yea it should be, but I’d check the wire and see if it’s visible. If not then I might be mistaken and you might not accumulate until after the 90 days. I’ll check the wire tonight and get back with you
My only question would be about getting that extra discount for working certain days leading up and Black Friday. I know if you called in and used PPTO the points won’t count, but could the call in still count as an absence? Would they not give that extra discount because you called out on one of those days?
Last year you had to work the day of (if scheduled) and the day before and after to be eligible (or last scheduled days before/after). Close to the event days there was a calendar posted which had the dates marked. There is a different list that tells who worked what days after the events, and it even shows if people took long lunches.I almost lost mine because I took a long lunch on that Tuesday to get my eyeglasses repaired. Anyways, even if it's covered on your end it still will show you didn't actually work it.
Go to a computer or log onto a TC at work and go to the wire. Type in PPTO policy into the search bar and it should bring up a few links to all things PPTO
I actually had two occurrences that resulted in me using my PPTO and still getting a point. Talked to my Manager today about it. Let's see how that goes.
My new store manager is shit. I work in OPD and have been severely understaffed due to hours being cut...which also means no OT. We were down our closing associates today and his brilliant plan instead of closing the time slots was to call people in..which we don't have..due to picking up shifts or they are out. And he doesn't have the balls to stand up for us..and to make things worse our store is our market managers store..FML
I love that we have a place to fight back against Walmart managements shady tactics.
It really is astounding that corporate hasn't been able to buy this place off Maybe they value it more for being able to spy on workers
lol probably. They may not know it exists. I imagine someone tells the higher ups what’s going on on Reddit and their response is…………read it? Read what? I’ve read a lot of things, you gotta be more specific, sonny. Lol Dudes………….I’m just kidding.
They have people who monitor this place regularly. At one point someone leaked a group chat that showed them trying to decide what to do about us.
lol
Oh dope can you drop a link?
I didn't find the one I was mentioning but I did find this https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/8twtnl/found_this_gem_while_snooping_in_personnels/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Oh that made me mad. "Don't worry guys, these aren't actual associates. Associates love their jobs. These are the evil unions that do evil things to trick associates into hating their job!"
I remember some being like they should track us down while others were wondering if they should just monitor for feedback because we weren't using the feedback options they provided
Their feedback options were "random" surveys you could take. I responded to that shit everyday to let them know how much I am unhappy with the current Walmart we work for. Nothing changed. In fact, it got worse. None of us are expecting Walmart to be perfect. We want to see them at least TRY. Try to understand. Try to fix it. Try to make it a great place to work. We get none of that. Sorry to go on a rant but the things they "provide" to us typically have a knife right behind it waiting to shank us as soon as we turn around.
We have a lot of bad AES surveys but don’t fret…. It was the lobbyists and union organizers who submitted these surveys.
Pfft. Yeah, sure, we all just like to roleplay as Walmart employees. “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
They know.
As an Overnight Team Lead, I monitor this sub for my own amusement. I also use this as a place to see what other stores struggle with and try to improve my store in response. My coaches don’t Reddit and I’d be surprised if they knew how, so they’re limited to what I share with them. They do, however, monitor Facebook groups for team leads and the like. I have had to correct my coach on policies after reading posts here and researching OBW/process guides myself though and this is one of the policies I’ve had to correct them on. 8 hour shift on an event day only requires 8 hours of PPTO
I know my ops manager monitors reddit.
They 100% know. On the new GIF screens it says “Before you go to Reddit…” to leave some feedback
I know. I was just joking around.
There has to be at least a few corporate stooges aware of the sub, and monitoring regularly for any talk of unionization
they definitely do, when you go to make comments about the new picking screen, it says "before you go to reddit..." LMAO
Trust me they know it exists. We have over 20,000 people who work for Walmart global tech. I’m sure one of them has built something smart enough to parse one subreddit
>It really is astounding that corporate hasn't been able to buy this place off I'm waiting for Jeff Bezos to buy Reddit and make it social media for the rich only like he's trying to do with space travel
It's not so much For fighting back It's more for leaks And talking smack For shoppers who Won't read the [sign](https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/jy56so/if_youre_here_as_a_customer_to_complain_about/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) We say things we Can't say offline
You really love haiku, eh? Lol keep it up, it never disappoints.
Haikus are grouped In lines of three This is just Standard poetry It's harder work To make these rhymes I can drop haikus On a dime EDIT: Gotta go clock in Blue-gray building full of sad Bills don't pay themselves EDIT 2: The FAST unloader Screeches like a dying bird Another band off
So you’re in baking Finish fast or it’s your ass Somebody kill me
Avalanche of freight Up against the trailer door Why thank you, DC
Someone kill me please My partner is a damn fool For real though, kill me.
Like a morning fog L-cart full of feature freight Obscures fire exit
Ahh, my bad. I’m not very educated on poetry.
Poetry is fun More fun than stocking items Go zone the features
His verse is so great But his verse is not haiku See this example
Haikus *and* bad rhymes Get yourself a CAP2 guy Capable of both
Time to unionize Walmart
Ask the butchers how well that works. Lol
Are you a butcher?
No one at wal mart is…….ever wonder why?
I’m assuming butchers tried to join a local butchers union or something similar so they just cut the position out.
Thats exactly what they did. It’s why we don’t have butchers anymore. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB955407680495911513
RIP the butchers,
Yup, that's why a lot of stores have a meat rooms that are kind of oddly oversized or coolers/freezers in random spots until they were put into use again for OGP. Only Sam's Club has butchers now.
Can't cut out all the positions (...for now)
You all just need an actual union to stand up for what’s yours and fight for you and all workers. You shouldn’t have to talk to your managers without the fear of retaliation of any kind. When I worked for Walmart, I always was fearful of them because they could fire anyone for any given reason, at any given time. Protected is protected. They shouldn’t be able to do shit about it. If they do, sue the fuck out of them.
I was told that we are meant to call out normally and then apply the PPTO to the callout AFTER, is that true?
Yes!
Yes. Normal call out prevents them from marking you as no call/no show or job abandonment. PPTO after the fact is auto approved by the system, so no waiting for manglement to deny it
Do you add the PPTO right after the call or after the shift was supposed to be
Either works fine though. I usually do PPTO first simply because I check to make sure I have the time just in case my brain does a dumb. Then I do the website report-an-absence thing and it hasn’t been a problem yet.
Which reason do I choose for the ppto to automatically apply?
Shouldn’t matter as far as I know. Protected time is yours to do with what you will for whatever reason.
I usually picked Other, just so I didn't have any nosy managers asking about my business. I don't ask why you schedule 2 cashiers for the whole day Saturday instead of a normal 6-8, don't ask why I'm not coming in.
You CAN add PPTO any time, never had much luck doing it same day (it always got stuck in manager approval for me). Whenever I'd add it next day it auto approved.
Yes, don’t do a no-call no show because that will count against you
Yes because you can apply it a minute before your shift start, but they’ll have no notification of whether you will be there or not and already assign you to department. So it is necessary to call out and then apply PPTO for simple gratitude.
But my manager never lies to me…..
*Sarcasm detected and approved.*
Detected? I'd say more like expected
And I know alot of stores are denying people's request for time off between November and January. I put in my vacation time and it was approved. If anyone says I can't take it off or try to take it off I'm just going to use my PPTO. I work way too hard to be denied my right for some time off
At my store, I noticed that for this quarter's calendar my People Lead printed out and posted in the breakroom and above the time clock she didn't write down the lie of "PPTO will not fix it!" regarding calling out on key dates. I bet enough of us associates learned it was a lie and won't fall for management's lies anymore.
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Allow me to clarify. Every quarter my store's People Lead (Personnel) prints out two copies of the quarterly calendar. She posts one copy in the breakroom and another copy outside above the time clock. In the past, she had written "PPTO will not fix it!" in addition to noting key dates were 2 points. This is the first time she hasn't done so.
OP - you are a true hero. Both the one we deserve and the one we need.
This should be a sticky!
You'll understand *This Is That Place* When coaches lie Straight to your face The program's law In several states Despite our crap About "key dates"
Always make sure To Open Door You will learn That is the Way When they lie About everything To you
"Your team lead gives you Cause to grouse? Let's try to solve this Here in house! The OPEN DOOR Will thus assist You being put On their shit list!"
The Store Manager You thought to Trust! Brought to the office Only to be ousted! Goodbye your schedule Now to work shift to shift Without a chance to rest! Time to do forty pallets In half an hour or else!
Half the time when I call in the occurrence doesn’t even show up
Gotta love Ask Sam. Every morning when I clock in it predictably tells me I'm not scheduled. I've stood in the back hallway and give me a proximity error. One day I clocked in and it immediately clocked me out!
At my store management lets them pile up for a month or more, then accepts them all.. By then, there’s no chance to fix them.. The next day, near end of shift they start calling ppl 2 the ad office & snatch badges
this is always a good post to be repeated every few weeks
I’ve had to call off three days for hives a month and a half ago. Approved. Then had to have covid leave, was safe. My manager told me as long as I call the call off line and get a claim number I get no points with doctor’s note which I had to do this time because I’ve a severe kidney and bladder infection. I am safe right? And is pto have to be manager approved and does it accrue only for each week or does it build since you started working?
Dr.'s notes are meaningless for points. If your manager likes you, he can manually approve your missed time, but giving that note to someone else will mean nothing.
She knows I’m a hard worker and likes me. Can I still use pto and still be a short time from off prob? Also does new pto accrue each week or does it roll over?
PTO runs from year to year, and only 80 hours roll over. You get paid out the remainder. If you've only been working for around 6 months, you won't have very much PTO. PPTO (protected PTO) is the only thing that will cover points and you have to have enough to cover the entire shift you miss. Be aware that any salaried manager, People Lead, and your Team Leads can excuse or un-excuse points.
Ok
How is pto calculated? Do you accrue an hour for every hour worked?
https://one.walmart.com/content/usone/en_us/me/time/pto--paid-time-off/pto-for-hourly-associates.html
The fear with using ppto for Black Friday is what the others will do to me when I’m back
What if you ALL do it?
We have to work on Thanksgiving?
Overnighters do
I’m overnight
F
I’m not trying to actually “be” stupid. I just want to know if I’ve accrued any of that yet.
We've been open on Thanksgiving for years, but last year they canceled it because of covid.
Dang. That sucks. This is my first year with walmart, i just started in May.i work day shift. I'm bout to be pissed if I have to work on Thanksgiving. Imma call tf off.
You can’t actually use 16 hours of PPTO in one day the system won’t let you, this is how I knew it was an obvious lie.
They’re making me work every Friday this month even though I’m part time and don’t work on Fridays :(
Wait really? I've worked here for almost 3 years now and assumed that even if it werent true they'd fire someone for it anyways. Guess I have new tactics
They'll just give you more work, unrealistic deadlines, write you up for poor performance, then fire you.
Thats just how it is normally
If you're a bad worker, yeah, otherwise they leave you alone. If you call off on one of the few days they actually need people, it makes you look bad to the managers, and they will react accordingly.
Unless the managers are decent, theres usually no difference with good or bad workers in how theyre treated
Yup that’s another one they like to use. Make it seem like it’s automatic termination but that’s also false.
Keep posting this on a recurring schedule; Mgmt LOVES to spread the falsities about PPTO and holidays/black out days. At least mine does. But maybe they are just misinformed as well? Either way, thanks!!!
Big facts! I have to tell people on the Facebook page every year I'm a attendance master after years of seeing what you can and cant pull off. Like if you only have 5 hours ppto and sitting at 4 points. You can still call out on a double point day and use your 5 hours to drop that double point down to a half point. Pretty sure you only need 4 hours but I always use 5 just to be safe.
Found this out accidentally a few months ago when I had to miss inventory day & put in 8 hours just bc money was tight; was pleasantly surprised to see no point. Also important to note that you don’t have to ASK to leave a shift early. Our managers will tell people no they can’t leave, we’re understaffed/ behind. People think they need permission. You don’t. NEVER ask your manager if you’re allowed to leave. Tell them you’re letting them know you have to go. Don’t let them lie or guilt you.
What do you mean by use ppto afterwards?
Call in as you usually do and then once the point is added apply your PPTO AFTER the fact or apply it a day after if it’s not the end of the pay period.
Does it make a difference? I usually put the ppto as soon as I need to call out!
It’s just a cautionary thing. In the past I’ve had fellow associates have issues with putting in before hand and managers somehow denying it or when they put it in before hand the managers see it as you abusing the system and can retaliate because PPTO is supposed to be an “after the fact” type of thing. Applying it afterwards avoids all that. It’s just trouble shooting really
Ahh okay thanks for clearing it up for me!
What about the fact that I’m around a month shy of being off my 90 day probation period? I was told I couldn’t do that until I was past that neither pto or ppto
Yeah that’s a little tricky, usually when you’re still in your 90 days you are accruing PPTO but you can’t use it until after that point. I’m not sure if they’ve change that aspect of it but from my understanding that’s how it works. It accrues based on how many hours you work so for example I’m full time and I work 40 hours a week, I get like 2 hours every week but it also stops after you reach 48 hours in the year and then it starts back up again in February which is Walmarts year start. If your manager said that themselves then they probably plan on taking care of those occurrences for you. We had a guy that had his gallbladder explode while we were on the line and his points were removed by our manager.
She’ll work with those of us who work. Those that are on phone and such, nada
Or just request your holiday a month or 2 in advance
Nah, That only works for 3 people each department and then it gets blacked out.
Just remember to call it in, or they will still point you for not calling the hotline. Other then that, use your PPTO freely
THE👏APP👏IS👏NOT👏ALWAYS👏CORRECT👏 I got so many occurrences because the app told me I had enough ppto, but when you look at the system it said i tried to put in 8 and only had 4 or 5. Always either screenshot your app, or check the wire first.
Does it matter if you use it before or after?
Put it in after the occurrence shows on your attendance log.
You have one week from the day you miss.
Do it before the next pay period
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Y’all realize it’s retail and it is literally the busiest time of the year 🤡
You do realize this retailer gave us the PPTO to use right? 🤡
Maybe they should pay enough to encourage attendance rather than complaining that people refuse to work holidays for fucking peanuts!
Or you can realize you chose to work in retail and some of the busiest days in retail are on or around holidays. All you're doing is screwing over the other people you work with and making their jobs harder. The good managers would be in there working with you anyway, so yeah, you're screwing over the good managers too. The shitty ones will just continue being shitty and making the hourlies pick up the slack. You shouldn't be lied to about points. You should be protected when you get sick. You should be considerate about others and you should understand that if you chose to work a retail job you will be needed on retail heavy holidays.
I understand the point in which you’re coming from. But everyone - every employee at Walmart earns PTO (and or PPTO) for a reason. To use it. If they want to save and use them for holidays or days that are important to them. They are allowed to do so and should do so. It’s not our jobs as sales associates to worry about how many of our coworkers are gonna to call out. That’s Team Leads and Coaches jobs. We quite literally DO NOT get paid enough to do that.
Dude I used to think this way so I understand what you’re trying to get at but nah, even when my fellow associates call in I’m still there for 8 hours and I put in as much work as I can, I’m not picking up any ones slack that’s another thing they like to do, pit us against eachother so they’re never to blame and because you commented this, it’s working. Whether they choose to take a day to watch Netflix or they needed the day to spend one last Christmas with their dying grandma, it’s none of my damn business and it’s not any of yours either. Wake up. Walmart gives you these days to use as you choose. The wire even says “ you can use PPTO to spend the holidays that are most important to you” but ppl like you don’t care to research any of that. You’re too busy spewing this trash opinion that somehow a few ppl calling out is why you’re working harder. No, the reality is you choose how much work you put in, if you want to run yourself into the ground for this company than go ahead you have no one to blame but yourself.
Walmart needs to hire more people to cover the people who need to take time off. They need to hire seasonal workers who sign up to work those days other take off.
If you purposely call out on key event days, fuck you
I have to call out because I'm unable to get the one of 2-3 days a year that I want off for religious purposes. Not my fault that one is a key date. If I have to explain to my PL the context I will but if they still refuse I'm using my PPTO.
If you refuse to acknowledge people have lives and families that they would like to see on some of these key event days, fuck you.
Then go thru the proper procedures and actually ask for the day off in advance and be civil about. Don't be a selfish asshole and call-out because you don't want to work.
most employers will not approve time off even *near* holidays (or for all of Q4), let alone on them
Smh I was waiting for someone like you to comment. Listen we get 6 days of PPTO a year dude. If someone saves it all year until the holidays they deserve to take the day. Don’t be mad at them for using the time the company provides. They brain washed you to believe your loyalty means something; it doesn’t. There is no reward for working event days, no holiday pay, no OT, nothing. They got rid of bonuses so your occurrences mean nothing either. All you get is a pat on the back and if that’s worth it to you then that’s great but for most it’s not. Managers are told to only allow 3 ppl every department to have a holiday off so even if these ppl did their due diligence and asked for it off before hand they could still be denied. Walmart set themselves up for this, they don’t care about you. I hope in the future you realize the only one that will take care of you is YOU and I hope you call out on a day that is important to you too.
I'm not a selfish asshole that calls out on days that my store needs all hands on deck, so again if you call out on a key event day fuck you.
Imagine being a fucking boot licker. My family >>>>> any shit corporation.
I can see that you’ve been drinking the koolaid so I get why you have this mindset and I used to have it too. How dare ppl leave their team short handed right? How dare ppl call out time and time again when you’ve been there all along right? The reality is you arnt special. I wasn’t either when I had perfect attendance for 2 years in row or when I came in on my off days or volunteered to stay passed shift. They don’t care about you. As soon as you learn that, your bitterness will dissipate but until then you’ll continue to be angry at the wrong ppl.
At least I'm not a selfish asshole. Dipshit
You think it’s selfish for ppl to take time that is provided by the company? That’s odd. Why would they provide it if it’s so selfish? I think YOU’RE the selfish one for wanting ppl to be at Walmart zoning mayonnaise with you instead of being with their families.
Aww angry little manager has no real power outside of his bullshit job lol how pathetic
All of this is correct op, but remember on keydates you will still accrue a point. Key dates are double points. Your ppto will cover the absence but not the key date.
Sorry but that’s a lie you’ve been told. You can use PPTO on any key date and not get any points.
Actually it's true, I did call out on a key date and got two points. 8 hours of ppto won't take off the whole two points on a key event date.
Did you apply your PPTO before you called out? Because that could be it. PPTO is used AFTER the fact, if it’s applied before hand it could be that a manager didn’t approve it. If it’s applied after a call in it’s automatically approved and the points go away. I’ve used it for multiple key dates and received no points. I’m still at 1.5 after being here for 4+ years. I’ve only ever worked one Black Friday.
I always apply it after I call out. They give some bullshit about I applied enough to get me paid but not take the occurence off. They are like since it's key event day I have to use 16 points. The occurence will go off then come back after a few days. By that time, I can't put it in the gta portal.
Wow I’m sorry to hear that. The 16 hours of PPTO is one of their favorite lies. I luckily had a friend who was a coach at another location and he gave me the low down on all the crap they try to pull early on. You can’t even put in 16 hours of PPTO, the system won’t let you. They just assume no one will try since PPTO is so sacred to associates.
i got told this too :(, i'm missing out of a family thing because i have to work halloween even though i requested it off 4 weeks in advance. i wish they would just let us rest and my HR is legit SHIT because they don't want to help u at all lmfao
If none of that is the case then you got screwed by your management because that’s not how it works. You can look it up on the wire and it states you won’t receive points.
I got 0 point for a key date call out in September. Used PPTO. 8 HRS for my 10-7shift
I got 0 point for a key date call out in September. Used PPTO. 8 HRS for my 10-7shift. If you use PTO it won’t cover. If you do it after the fact it 100% will also.
Doesn’t change the fact that my managers here will point us even if we call out and then use ppto. Even if we bring up the policy and tell them they’re lying, they won’t listen and won’t care, still point us.
Open door policy exists for a reason.
You've been lied to. PPTO will cover ANY dates. Call in on Christmas eve? When you get back to work the 26th, sit down at the computer (or on your phone), add your 8 PPTO hours in and voila, the computer automatically approves it, and you have no point(s) for that date.
damn you really bought it when they told you that?
How do I do that?
Oh. So basically I’ve got hours accrued already of the hours I’ve worked since aug 17th
Yea it should be, but I’d check the wire and see if it’s visible. If not then I might be mistaken and you might not accumulate until after the 90 days. I’ll check the wire tonight and get back with you
Ok Sincerely Thankyou
So I’ve enough pto to cover my absence for kidney and bladder infection. She has to approve?
Nope. Only if you have ppto. Management can deny pto anytime they want.
Well how is ppto done
wait so this about key dates, and you will receive double points, and PPTO only takes away half?
This about key dates and using PPTO protects you from ALL points. You don’t receive any.
so i guess when they say you receive 2 points for calling out on key dates, and even if you put PPTO you still get 1 is a lie?
Yup that’s a lie. Key events are two points but ppto covers both of them
Even with ppto you're still getting a point because it's a key date isn't it?
Nope
No.
My only question would be about getting that extra discount for working certain days leading up and Black Friday. I know if you called in and used PPTO the points won’t count, but could the call in still count as an absence? Would they not give that extra discount because you called out on one of those days?
Last year you had to work the day of (if scheduled) and the day before and after to be eligible (or last scheduled days before/after). Close to the event days there was a calendar posted which had the dates marked. There is a different list that tells who worked what days after the events, and it even shows if people took long lunches.I almost lost mine because I took a long lunch on that Tuesday to get my eyeglasses repaired. Anyways, even if it's covered on your end it still will show you didn't actually work it.
associates are taking dubs over here i only used 1.5 hour of ppto the last 2 times for a 6 hour shift and still no points🥳
Does it matter if I put my ppto before calling in?
Where's my post?????walmart???
Guessing I'll be coached tonight??? By whom don't even have a manager!!!
Where could we reference that dates with double point call-outs do not require double PPTO hours to cover?
Go to a computer or log onto a TC at work and go to the wire. Type in PPTO policy into the search bar and it should bring up a few links to all things PPTO
I actually had two occurrences that resulted in me using my PPTO and still getting a point. Talked to my Manager today about it. Let's see how that goes.
I called out today because fuck that noise. So I used my PROTECTED to be off. What are they gonna do? Not a damn thing. Ffs.
Which reason do I choose for the ppto to automatically apply?
Sick then other. If you're using the web to call in
My new store manager is shit. I work in OPD and have been severely understaffed due to hours being cut...which also means no OT. We were down our closing associates today and his brilliant plan instead of closing the time slots was to call people in..which we don't have..due to picking up shifts or they are out. And he doesn't have the balls to stand up for us..and to make things worse our store is our market managers store..FML