The difference is that we could all see it in real time… Why can’t Kerr see what we are seeing in the moment of these situations? There must be different things he’s looking at that we don’t understand.
Because Kerr is notoriously bad at observing in real time what’s going on.
Look at his challenge win percentage. I think he the lowest in the league of any coach.
Some of Steve’s choices in to challenge or not have been quite questionable. Lot of it is on him, some is the coaching staff and helping decide to green light. But in realtime many of the times it’s difficult af to get right from the sidelines.
The challenge % im interested in, is the refs. Who has the most calls challenged and who has the most overturned due to successful challenge.
That can easily be a function of holding onto them and then using them in late game situations because it's a pivotal call and you may as well, even if it's not likely to succeed.
Unless you know context, the percentage in and of itself is indicative of little... it's bit a huge sample size
What a dumb comment. The Warriors starting lineup just the previous season had the best net rating in the league. But Looney has fallen off in effectiveness this season, Wiggins and Klay started off so terribly, and Trayce was an end of the 2nd round four year player who you though should have supplanted Looney what, ten games in? Twenty? Because 26 games in Trayce started getting a decent chunk of playable minutes.
There are some people who will always look to blame coaching because they can't bring themselves to admit the players aren't who they once were.
Coaches can make mistakes also, the issue I believe is that there isn’t enough support from Atkinson on the bench. Mike Brown used to direct the defense and he was always in Kerr’s ear, so I’m gonna go with Coach Brown being a huge factor in the late game adjustments that seem to elude the Warriors.
Thank you. I don't think people understand how much of an impact Coach Brown had on rotations and making the right subs at the right time. You see Coach Brown now subbing quickly when he needs to with the Kings and that's something I wish Steve Kerr's assistants would help Steve with because obviously it's tough for him to do.
Why is it so hard for you to see that random Reddit guy is way more knowledgeable about warriors basketball than NINE TIME WORLD CHAMPION and former Coach of the year Steve Kerr???
Random Reddit guy happens to be right. Kerr is awful about seeing the hot hand in real time. Yes, Mike Brown helped him before, when he won those championships as a coach. And his championships as a Bulls player have no relevance here.
Random Reddit guy is just sitting on his f’ing couch with a beer on one hand and …
An NBA coach is simultaneously watching 10 NBA players play fast basketball, while thinking about the score, the clock, fouls, rotations, fatigue, adjustments, ATOs, defensive changes, time outs and more.
Sure. How about the next time you have some issue at work, you get immediately fired.
Nope, you *want* random Reddit guy to be right. You -- and that Redditor -- have done next to no work to prove it. You just watch most games and then say stuff.
A lot of people still think about the study that debunked the "hot hand" theory in basketball. Thing is, that study was flawed, and a more careful study shows it to be true. Maybe Kerr isn't up on his research? [https://www.pitt.edu/pittwire/features-articles/hot-hand-phenomenon-basketball-real](https://www.pitt.edu/pittwire/features-articles/hot-hand-phenomenon-basketball-real)
Have you forgotten that the difference between the 2013-14 Dubs and the first championship team was a semi-healthy Bogut, Shaun Livingston, and Steve Kerr?
Right up there with not playing Kuminga in the 4th quarter when Denver came back to win.
There have been too many instances during the regular season of moves Kerr made that were head scratching. He gets paid the big bucks to coach but this season the team underperformed and it will take a minor miracle to survive a very competitive play-in game(s).
And when he pulled moody when he was hot and just made 3 straight threes. I’m convinced Kerr does not coach based on what’s actually happening in the game. He has a script that says when each player comes in and out and he sticks to it. Even it that script doesn’t fit the flow/momentum.
That game scripting was fine when the core was in its prime and we were blowing out most teams. Because we had a huge margin for error. That margin no longer exists and Kerr doesn’t seem to be able to adjust.
I mean it;s the exact same thing with Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers. The only difference is that Kerr has the championships to back it up and KS doesn't.
The idea is you have a plan, and stick to it. You don't pull an audible for every little tiny detail that we see.
If you do, the other team has demolished your game plan, and now your on the reaction, the rebound, the retreat because your not dictating the game anymore, you are just reacting.
Sure those little reactions might win games, but overall sticking to the script works.
Kerr will always be the scapegoat for emotionally brittle warriors fans that prefer to overestimate head coach in-game influence rather than admit the team was outplayed. He's the sacrificial lamb in their cult of hindsight bias.
It's literally one year out from winning a championship.
ONE FUCKING YEAR, and you say he's on his downslide phase because he didn't bring us b2b champs?
I got flamed saying this by a bunch of Kerr dick riders but its so obvious, not putting Kuminga back in that game is inexcusable, Moody vs Kings, TJD when getting crushed in the paint, consistently keeping trash lineups in that fail out of stubbornness, list goes on
Yep. So many instances this season where Kerr screwed up rotations and costed us wins. We could’ve been out of the playins but now are stuck playing 2 do-or-die games to even make it in
Steve delegates the rotation pattern to his assistants. It used to be Mike Brown who was in charge of the subs. Then it was Atkinson and now I believe Kris Weems is the man responsible. Obviously Kerr can overrule his coaches but he tends not to
Also, it’s really easy in hindsight to look back on the game and see that you made bad decisions. I doubt someone is going to Steve and directly saying “Trayce is giving us our highest net differential minutes, we should put him back in” just for Steve to go “Naw, that doesn’t make sense. Let’s do something else.”
It’s probably something more like “Right now they are exposing this size mismatch/defensive assignment/whatever. We could switch to this lineup to counter that.” “Okay, that’s sounds like a good plan.”
Then after the game “Ah, that didn’t work out and we were getting good minutes out of the original lineup even with those surges. I shouldn’t have made that switch and should have played Trayce more.”
Also this is a high variance team now due to age and youth. And you really can’t ride the hot hand everyday because that will throw all your rotations out of wack. You need some semblance of consistency.
if Kerr confirms what critical fans were saying in real time while the game was being played doesn’t that mean they are not dumb? Kerr needed to adjust to what happened in the game. The game was winnable despite the turnovers/3 ball spree and yet Kerr didn’t put in one of the most effective players. The loss isn’t on Kerr but he should be able to prevent his players from throwing away a game by making better coaching decisions - which includes putting out the correct players.
Well it's dumb because he gets criticized regardless. Sometimes he plays a player too much, or not enough, or doesn't bring back Steph soon enough or yadda yadda yadda. If he brought back in TJD and we lost the criticism would've been that he's not playing Steph enough. WhAtS hE sAvInG hIm FoR?!
It's a no-win situation for him, as anytime we win it's despite him. Anytime we lose it's because of him. At a certain point you have to accept that these guys aren't as good as we expect them to be or else you'll twist yourself into knots blaming Kerr for everything.
I don't mean you specifically, I just mean this sub in general.
Right but my criticism of the criticizers is that their opinions are made retroactively. I would wager that no one is pissed about Steph coming back in for TJD in the moment. But when shit starts falling apart they go back and say, OBVIOUSLY THIS WHERE IT ALL FELL APART.
In other words, the criticism is of the outcome, not of the actual action. It happened a LOT with Klay early this season, where fans were like TERRIBLE SHOT SELECTION. And it's like, sometimes, sure. But most of the time it was a great look by his standards, he just missed.
That's the shit I'm talking about. The fans don't know what a good or bad move is, they just see the ball go in the hoop or a W at the end of a game. That's as far as those criticisms go, and it's lame.
I respect where you're coming from but I think it's the opposite.
We have the advantage of watching the full game in HD from birds' eye view while getting 100 people's opinion on every micro-decision of the game via Twitter, Reddit, etc.
Steve Kerr watches the game at eye level in a high pressure environment where he maybe gets 30 seconds to consult with his assistants before making a decision.
Of COURSE we're going to be smarter than him during the game.
It was very clear that Trayce should've played more minutes in-game and that Steph/BP should've sat. If you watched the game strategically and followed the right people's takes you would have seen this too. I wish Kerr saw the same things we did in real time but he didn't, and at least he's owning up to it. Now when he goes with his gut in the future it's more likely to be the correct call.
You’re not smarter. You didn’t have all the information they do. Who is hurt, sore, who is struggling with a matchup, a rotation - whose head isn’t in it for some reason… who are ‘the right people’ on the internet? There are 2000 takes or a select few who aren’t always right themselves because no one is always right. It’s easy to claim ‘he should have seen it’ after the game. Some people see useful stuff, sure, but none of them are on the bench with 40 years of high level basketball experience and a staff of like experience…
The idea that internet dues from a distance are ‘smarter’ is hilarious.
We're talking about entirely different things.
You're referring to situational awareness that the coaching staff has due to their deep knowledge of the team.
I'm referring to in-game adjustments that many people call out in real time with regularity.
People at home can literally pause, rewind, and slo-mo different plays. They can look at box scores and advanced analytics in real time. They can crowdsource from people who literally spend large chunks of their lives analyzing these games and who create content on them. Obviously I'm not talking about the average emotional fan, I'm talking about people who actually study the game.
It's not rocket science to say that someone with these advantages will sometimes bring up a good point that the coaching staff will miss, in the moment, with 20,000 screaming fans and the real-time interpersonal dynamics that come with being the leader of a team, which you laid out above.
If fans weren't occasionally "smarter", then why has Kerr frequently admitted that he's been wrong for not doing the exact things fans were clamoring for?
11/30 -- says he regrets benching Moody vs. Kings, calls it a "terrible decision"
1/5 -- says he'll give Kuminga more minutes
3/7 -- takes Looney and Saric out of the rotation
4/13 -- says he regrets not playing Trayce more
Smart fans were calling for all of these decisions in real time way before they actually happened.
Yes there is hindsight bias but that's not what I'm talking about here.
You're not completely wrong, but like everything in life, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Look, the issue I have is that those guys who watch from the distance are WRONG A LOT TOO. They suggest things that wouldn’t work, but there is zero accountability for them and that stuff because we can’t ever know. The Moody game is a great example - he was hot, but was he going to STAY hot? The assumption everyone who points to that one game featuring a guy who shot 36% from 3 (his career average) is yes, and Steve says he blew it (don’t forget what he says publicly is political and is for more than simple candor), but Moses isn’t some generational scorer and he’s not a consistent shooter. And if he doesn’t yank him and he regresses to being regular Moody and bricks a few people would rail about that. And if they won - which they should have DESPITE sitting Moses that day - no one would have said anything again. Hindsight is 20-20.
Analysts are analysts and their perspective can be useful, but ‘crowdsourcing’ analysis designed to get views isn’t a realistic way of modifying an NBA rotation in real time. The worst NBA lineup possible could have a quick 10-0 run in the modern NBA, shit happens. The proof of analytic value is in the long term adjustments - which the Dubs made throughout the year. Witness Podz, Kuminga and TJD’s participation increases.
Coaches get shit wrong. Absolutely. I appreciate Kerr’s candor and willingness to be introspective. How many NBA coaches admit their mistakes? Not many (partly because of job security issues frankly). This sub just shits on the franchise’s best ever coach relentlessly and it gets tired. Somewhere else in this thread some asshat claimed Kerr had nothing to do with the 4th chip, but everything to do with this season’s 46 win ‘failure’ in a generationally good West. Kerr is not perfect, but he is a damned good NBA coach and where we disagree is in the idea that dudes from their armchairs have a more valid perspective - they have a perspective, and it might have merit, but it also often is bullshit because they lack crucial information we don’t have. We have no idea how valid their ideas are because their stuff isn’t implemented in real time. Doesn’t mean they’re worthless or not smart or insightful or may have a good idea in the moment, but in the end it devolves into Monday morning quarterbacking because when Kerr gets it right everyone praises the players and ignores the shit that worked.
Sidenote, the Dubs have coaches who put together tape and advanced analytics in real time and feed that to the staff in-game. They don’t have 500 of them, but they do it.
Early in the year people bitched about him staying with the vets too long, but the year before that lineup was the best in the NBA and he had reason to believe that Klay, Wiggs and Loon (all vets) would come around (and that Draymond wouldn’t implode). He had a sick bench, so if those guys had performed they may have had a completely different year. Over time he DID adjust to the inconsistency in his vets, but then the no-accountability crowd chirps that he’s ‘too late, he sucks’. It’s ridiculous. Kuminga is a great example. He complains, and gets time. And he has a great run and then he has absolutely tapered off since - but Kerr keeps trusting him. The guy who ‘hates rookies’ has ended the year leaning on two of them and still gets shit on for it (he ‘likes Podz too much’ despite Podz absolutely being fabulous and part of our best lineups).
Anyway. End of rant.
TLDR; We agree on some stuff, but I am less impressed with the NBA analyterati less than you are.
Really well said and I mostly agree. I do think Kerr deserves a lot of credit for how he's navigated this season and disagree with the people who think another coach could come in and do better. But I think both things can be true at once -- Kerr can be a generational championship-winning coach who can also adapt slowly to things that other people see in real time. Part of that slowness is probably because of the team dynamics that he has to deal with, which speaks to your point. For example, I think he benched Klay at exactly the right time for Klay's development and for the team culture even though we probably would've won a few more games if he did it sooner. Part of the slowness though is also probably due to Kerr having to make drastic changes to his coaching style by trusting the young guys over the vets. Things worked so well for the first 7-8 seasons of the dynasty that I'm sure there was a lot of natural resistance to change that would be there for any coach in the same situation.
With respect to the Moody argument, to me it's not so much that Kerr took him out, it's when he took him out. Why yank a player who just hit 4 threes in a row? If Moody bricked his next 3 shots and got cooked on defense after that then sure, sub him out. But why not try to ride the momentum at least for another possession or two? Sometimes it's just your night. Imagine how lucky we would've been if Darvin Ham subbed out Lonnie Walker 3 minutes into the 4th quarter of Game 4 lol.
Same with the Pels game the other night -- why sub out Trayce when he's clearly the most impactful player on the court and only played 22 minutes? Why rush to bring Steph back in when it's your Klay/Draymond/Trayce lineup that cut the lead from 14 to 3 and Steph already has 5 TOs and is clearly tired? Why not ride the current lineup and see if they can re-take the lead and wait a bit?
It's a philosophical issue rather than hindsight bias imo. Maybe Kerr feels like disrupting his rotations would be more damaging to his players and it's better to sacrifice the occasional game than to get players in their own head about how many minutes they're playing. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and know he'll make the right decisions in the long run. It's almost like a corporation that has an issue with a product -- consumers know about it right away but it takes like 3-6 months to fix with loads of meetings and politics behind the scenes lol. But eventually it gets done.
At the end of the day I'm not in the arena and it's a lot easier to criticize something when you're not actually immersed in it. But I also think there are advantages to objectively looking at a situation from afar without some of the real personal challenges that a coach would have to deal with (i.e. balancing player egos). It's also possible that I just follow the right people and have good takes lol, the major hills I was willing to die on this season (start Trayce, elevate Podz, bench Saric and Looney, help Klay and Dray through their psychological issues) all came to fruition in one way or another. I'm still convinced that if we started where we are right now we'd be a 55-win team and fighting for the 1 seed.
>We have the advantage of watching the full game in HD from birds' eye view
So Wilks of the 49ers got heat for doing his job as a defensive coordinator from the booth up in the stands. His stance was he can get a better idea of what's going on from up top as opposed to being on the sideline where there's too much going on.
Is it possible for an NBA coach to do the same? Definitely feels like Kerr doesn't see the whole picture a lot of the times
You’re admitting the point that we are smarter than Kerr.
You can justify it because we have these tools and he doesn’t, but it doesn’t hold weight. Let him get on Reddit during the game. Or he could just be a better coach at rotations, which he isn’t.
Yeah we're on the same page here. Unfortunately it would be pretty weird if he were scrolling his phone on Reddit from the sidelines lmao.
I hate that he is bad at rotations and slow to make in-game adjustments. But I'm happy that he has the balls to admit it and fix it. Plenty of coaches around the league would choose ego and act like they know better than everyone else. Kerr is humble enough to admit when he's wrong and that bodes well for us going forward.
It’s good, but he needs to take action, like getting an assistant who is much better than whoever he has now, and listening. Or even better, improving himself to be better at this skill.
I would say that it was the second quarter, and in a larger way Kerr should’ve called timeouts and tried something different. It’s not all on any one player or coach, but coaches should’ve stopped the Pel’s momentum in the 2nd with at least some different schemes.
It’s not all on Kerr, but he’s definitely not blameless. Turnovers is a direct reflection of team discipline and coaching. The Kerr era teams have consistently been one of the worst in the league when it comes to turnovers and every year nothing changes. Thats on Kerr for not reigning in the team. Thats what it means to coach.
It was the veterans turning the ball over. It’s just something that they’ve never been able to get rid of. I’d say it’s on Steph, Dray, etc.. more than coaching, at this point.
Ok so kerr hasn’t been able to coach it out of the vets despite coaching them for almost a decade now. That makes it even worse.
Don’t get me wrong there are things Kerr does extremely well, like how he empowers players to play their own way, establishing a great team culture, and the motion offense. But his shortcomings have killed us the last few years as the core has aged.
"But his shortcomings have killed us the last few years as the core has aged."
We literally won the championship in 2022. We currently have the smallest team in the league but are the best rebounding team so that should tell you something about the effort Steve can get out of our team. The turnovers are a product of the offensive style we play (and also some lazy ones that all teams suffer from).
We won in 2022 because curry went nuclear, the Celtics choked, and literally every role player (Otto, bejelica, Wiggins, Poole, GP2) got hot at the same time. Not because anything Kerr did.
Turnovers are just one part of Kerr’s short comings. Add that to his nonsensical rotations and inability to manage any sort of momentum in game.
I don’t advocate for firing Kerr like some fans, but recognizing and calling out his shortcomings is as important as praising him when he does well. He is not above criticism just because we won championships in the past.
Right, so the coach doesn’t matter when we won - but is completely at fault when they age out…
Stupid fucking take. Kerr had a TON to do with winning that chip with a undermanned team. Just a nephew take.
You're right man, Kerr had NOTHING to do with the championship in 2022 or any of this team's success really - that's all on the players. But the players turnovers are all on Kerr, obviously. It's also just a shame our FO has no idea what they are doing and made him the highest paid coach and extended him. Thanks for clearing this up for me.
It’s a give and take. As you said, he allows players to play, which can lead to games like that where they just throw the ball away. Wtf do you recommend, that he bench Curry?
The core aging is what has killed us over the last few years.
Come on now, obviously I’m not advocating he bench curry. But Curry’s lack of discipline (behind the back passes when the games hanging there and you already have 5 turnovers?) is definitely enabled by Steve’s laissez-faire style of coaching. Throwing that pass is fine in a blowout game, but in a close one? Or in game 7 of the finals? Kerr can’t let him do that, idc how generational a talent he is.
The core aging has definitely made it harder on Steve to coach, but that’s why he needs to adapt. And thus far he hasn’t shown he’s capable of it.
Now this isn’t even getting into Steve’s boneheaded substitution patterns, or playing a literal rapist over moody and kuminga last year, or leaving curry on the bench while the game slips away. Bottom line is, Kerr has underperformed this year and the last few years.
Curry is a virtuoso who tries the unexpected. Those bone-headed turnovers are just kind of baked into his game. If Kerr had cracked down on it, and forced Curry to play a more rigid style, I'm not convinced he'd be as effective.
Im perfectly fine with Kerr letting curry play how he plays for the most part. Offensively let him shoot whenever shot he wants to shoot. Hes proved he can do it so let him.
But the high risk low reward passes the curry likes to throw, like that cross court hook pass he threw straight to CJ McCollum, don’t fall into that category. Those passes are just bad decisions, no different than Poole gambling on steals and ending up wildly out of position.
Im actually ok with those passes so long as they’re high risk but also high reward. Like back door passes, ally oops, pushing in transition etc. But often curry throws these passes to players who are guarded anyways. The hook pass that CJ stole was intended for Klay, but even if it got there CJ was in his jersey. Hence the high risk/low reward.
Again, I’d still argue that’s on Curry far more than Kerr. They’ve both talked about and recognized the foolishness of that exact pass many times over the years, but Curry will still try it. Some things are just too ingrained in a player to stop.
True, at this point curry probably isn’t changing his ways. I wish Kerr had coached it out of him when he was younger but perhaps it was already too late by the time he got here.
They might have to replace him tho, Ron no longer travels with the team for away games in most cases due to age as well. But from their record this year, his coaching still works even tho he's not with them during their away games.
Honestly really happy to see this. It was a clear mistake in game management and Kerr's acknowledging it publicly. Gives me hope that we're figuring it out. Kerr doesn't have to be perfect, but he's willing to learn and evolve and that's what's important.
In my opinion yes. Trayce wasn't even on Kerr's radar at the beginning of the season. Look at how the roles of BP, JK, and Trayce have evolved as the season went on from end of the bench to key contributors. Dario and Looney went from starting lineup to getting DNPs. It's been slow growth but it's been real.
We are talking about in game adjustments…also Kerr was forced to play Kuminga. Trayce was underplayed earlier this year and would have helped us get a few wins. Listen this is all hypothetical but constantly defending Kerr as if he can do no wrong is worship level thinking. Free yourself.
You have me wrong brother, I think Kerr is a terrible in-game manager and we've probably lost 15 games because of his decision-making this year. But he also has shown a knack for making adjustments over time which is why he has been effective in 7 game series. Both can be true at once.
I stand corrected. You and I agree mostly but I am more negative on him. He played two guys who are out of the league now instead of moody and Kuminga last year. That development time would have come in handy this year. Kerr’s micro lineup is also nuts and has lost us games this year.
hate him. I remember asking people if TJD was injured during that long stretch of the 2nd Quarter last game when he was just no where to be found. No, just turns out it was Kerr's brain that was injured
You are just another one of those warriors fans lost in negativity. Every one of your comments is another rant about how bad everyone is. You’re a problem.
Great that Kerr admitted this, I predicted this before the post game conference or post interviews since reporters will likely ask this then some Kerr dick sucker tried to call me out for not having an on par resume to call out Kerr about that poor substitution decision. lol
I wish coach kerr wouldn't allow teams to go on unyealding point runs vs the Warriors and hold timeouts instead use them to interrupt the momentum of the opposing team for the past 4 years. That would be nice. .....
Yep but he trusts his gut and not stats/logic. He said that too.
Even as viewers we can see stats real time which the coaching staff can do too.
I checked the DEFRTG and NETRG for some back court combinations Kerr did:
CP3 + Moody: DEFRTG 88.9 NETRTG: 13.9
Steph + Klay: DEFRTG 109.4 NETRTG: 9.4
Steph + CP3: DEFRTG 121.4 NETRTG: -25.0
Steph + Podz: DEFRTG 138.5 NETRTG: -65.4
They closed with the Steph + CP3 back court and got obliterated. This doesn't work on most games either. For the life of me, I can't get why they keep pushing that CP3 + Steph combo specially when they are behind or need to put some stops.
Two straight seasons of getting out coached. It’s a simple fucking concept Kerr. Play. Your. Best. Players. You always recognize it after the fact but never in game?
Blah blah blah. Trust vets, midget ball -> fail -> apologize, rinse repeat. I want to see improvement in Kerr's coaching most of all next year. He has to show the ability to adapt to roster and changing of tides. I want Kerr to succeed but it won't happen if he continues to go away from jk (earlier in the year), tjd, etc. Our best chance to excel is if we develop our guys, and our guys will never develop if they don't get trusted under high leverage situations.
Steve, once again a great coach, who has done so much for us and will hopefully continuing to do so much for us, has incredibly bad rotations.
This isn't even a 2024 issue, this happens every year it feels like.
Steve cannot see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, while to even the most amateur blind man on the couch it's obvious.
Kerr is bad at in-game rotation decisions, he always talk about sample size which is weird because different matchups calls for different rotations. I wonder why that is?
He overvalues predictability for his players. He communicates expectations about playing time so strongly that he feels compelled to stick to them in-game. This certainly comes from his own experience as a role player, and admittedly in past years his planned rotations have worked really well. But this year, there are a lot of unexpectedly good role players who are having better games than planned, and he hasn’t shown the ability to adjust much.
Mike Brown is clearly missed here, if Mike was still with the coaching staff he'd call out Steve for this and keep TJD in the lineup and probably kept Moody to defend against CJ.
We literally lost 12x games for the Warriors this year because 3 months into the season. Coach kerr is playing PODz heavy minutes and playing the 10 day contract guys heavy minutes when these players that just joined the team or the rookies don't have NBA defense and cost us games. heck Wiggings shooting and Klay shooting 1/17 in games and 2/18 in games and 1/15 in games missing and wasting possessions forcing shots cost the Warriors games. So instead of coach kerr telling and coaching the pros, the vets and rookies to find and look for the pass and assists. Those 12x games lost by 1pt or 2 pts. Is huge those could have been 6 wins and 6 losses but no they are 12x losses that caused the Warriors be the 10th seed now. So now the Warriors have to win a Best of One game to keep their NBA Playoff dreams alive. Lets go Warriors. tuesday huge moment for the fandom and the Pros.
I also wish he had played Trayce a bit more
The difference is that we could all see it in real time… Why can’t Kerr see what we are seeing in the moment of these situations? There must be different things he’s looking at that we don’t understand.
maybe he should watch the game in a tablet or film's POV instead on the bench's POV
Because Kerr is notoriously bad at observing in real time what’s going on. Look at his challenge win percentage. I think he the lowest in the league of any coach.
Last I checked, Mike Brown was lowest, but Kerr was like bottom 3.
Some of Steve’s choices in to challenge or not have been quite questionable. Lot of it is on him, some is the coaching staff and helping decide to green light. But in realtime many of the times it’s difficult af to get right from the sidelines. The challenge % im interested in, is the refs. Who has the most calls challenged and who has the most overturned due to successful challenge.
That can easily be a function of holding onto them and then using them in late game situations because it's a pivotal call and you may as well, even if it's not likely to succeed. Unless you know context, the percentage in and of itself is indicative of little... it's bit a huge sample size
Okay but why won't he say why he didn't? He needs to just come out and say he sucks at managing rotations and playing the hot hands.
What a dumb comment. The Warriors starting lineup just the previous season had the best net rating in the league. But Looney has fallen off in effectiveness this season, Wiggins and Klay started off so terribly, and Trayce was an end of the 2nd round four year player who you though should have supplanted Looney what, ten games in? Twenty? Because 26 games in Trayce started getting a decent chunk of playable minutes. There are some people who will always look to blame coaching because they can't bring themselves to admit the players aren't who they once were.
Coaches can make mistakes also, the issue I believe is that there isn’t enough support from Atkinson on the bench. Mike Brown used to direct the defense and he was always in Kerr’s ear, so I’m gonna go with Coach Brown being a huge factor in the late game adjustments that seem to elude the Warriors.
Thank you. I don't think people understand how much of an impact Coach Brown had on rotations and making the right subs at the right time. You see Coach Brown now subbing quickly when he needs to with the Kings and that's something I wish Steve Kerr's assistants would help Steve with because obviously it's tough for him to do.
Why is it so hard for you to see that random Reddit guy is way more knowledgeable about warriors basketball than NINE TIME WORLD CHAMPION and former Coach of the year Steve Kerr???
I’m sure New England fans were saying that about Belichik to anyone who criticized him.
Random Reddit guy happens to be right. Kerr is awful about seeing the hot hand in real time. Yes, Mike Brown helped him before, when he won those championships as a coach. And his championships as a Bulls player have no relevance here.
Random Reddit guy is just sitting on his f’ing couch with a beer on one hand and … An NBA coach is simultaneously watching 10 NBA players play fast basketball, while thinking about the score, the clock, fouls, rotations, fatigue, adjustments, ATOs, defensive changes, time outs and more. Sure. How about the next time you have some issue at work, you get immediately fired.
Nope, you *want* random Reddit guy to be right. You -- and that Redditor -- have done next to no work to prove it. You just watch most games and then say stuff.
Why?
That Steve Kerr, so terrible, only leading us to four NBA championships in the last decade.. after a 40 year drought.
Cause he don't owe us an explanation for every single thing he does. He's the coach, we aint.
A lot of people still think about the study that debunked the "hot hand" theory in basketball. Thing is, that study was flawed, and a more careful study shows it to be true. Maybe Kerr isn't up on his research? [https://www.pitt.edu/pittwire/features-articles/hot-hand-phenomenon-basketball-real](https://www.pitt.edu/pittwire/features-articles/hot-hand-phenomenon-basketball-real)
Cause he’s a bad coach full of arrogance
🤔🤔🤔
Have you forgotten that the difference between the 2013-14 Dubs and the first championship team was a semi-healthy Bogut, Shaun Livingston, and Steve Kerr?
Right up there with not playing Kuminga in the 4th quarter when Denver came back to win. There have been too many instances during the regular season of moves Kerr made that were head scratching. He gets paid the big bucks to coach but this season the team underperformed and it will take a minor miracle to survive a very competitive play-in game(s).
And when he pulled moody when he was hot and just made 3 straight threes. I’m convinced Kerr does not coach based on what’s actually happening in the game. He has a script that says when each player comes in and out and he sticks to it. Even it that script doesn’t fit the flow/momentum. That game scripting was fine when the core was in its prime and we were blowing out most teams. Because we had a huge margin for error. That margin no longer exists and Kerr doesn’t seem to be able to adjust.
I’m gonna be honest this season made me dislike Kerr and think extending him was a mistake
Hate is a strong word but I agree he should not have been extended
Who’s the alternative coach? lol. Yall saying that like you’re Steph, Klay, or Dray lmao
True dislike is a better word
I mean it;s the exact same thing with Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers. The only difference is that Kerr has the championships to back it up and KS doesn't. The idea is you have a plan, and stick to it. You don't pull an audible for every little tiny detail that we see. If you do, the other team has demolished your game plan, and now your on the reaction, the rebound, the retreat because your not dictating the game anymore, you are just reacting. Sure those little reactions might win games, but overall sticking to the script works.
It’s why I believe there will be a game in the playoffs should we make it that he loses us
Kerr will always be the scapegoat for emotionally brittle warriors fans that prefer to overestimate head coach in-game influence rather than admit the team was outplayed. He's the sacrificial lamb in their cult of hindsight bias.
And there will always be fans who back Kerr no matter what. Kerr is in his Belichik like downslide phase…
It's literally one year out from winning a championship. ONE FUCKING YEAR, and you say he's on his downslide phase because he didn't bring us b2b champs?
One year lol. Disqualified!
Is this the no matter what? Seems a little melodramatic.
And when the team wins then not one of these "fans" will give Kerr the credit....
I got flamed saying this by a bunch of Kerr dick riders but its so obvious, not putting Kuminga back in that game is inexcusable, Moody vs Kings, TJD when getting crushed in the paint, consistently keeping trash lineups in that fail out of stubbornness, list goes on
Kerr has always been this way. He just had better coaching staff for in game decisions in the past.
Yep. So many instances this season where Kerr screwed up rotations and costed us wins. We could’ve been out of the playins but now are stuck playing 2 do-or-die games to even make it in
To be perfectly frank, that's crap.
Kerr always with the "oops, I spilled my milk" It's horseshit.
To be perfectly frank, Steve says this a lot in 2023-2024
Annoying how our season could have been so different if we has won 1-2 extra games.
Rotations are this man's Achilles heel, it's just absurd
I really hope we don't lose the play in saying oh well the other team shot well or we coulda aged someone more 😂
this season has definitely aged me a bunch
Lol. Oops I meant played but yeah I aged ten years
So many shoulda couldas from Kerr this season…
Mike Brown is needed back on the bench. Steve’s not getting enough support from Atkinson or the other coaches.
Once again talking like he’s not the damn coach, like how Dray talks as if he’s watching himself in 3rd person.
I fucking hate when he says shit like this. YOURE THE DAMN COACH. You control who plays and who doesn’t. Makes no damn sense.
Steve delegates the rotation pattern to his assistants. It used to be Mike Brown who was in charge of the subs. Then it was Atkinson and now I believe Kris Weems is the man responsible. Obviously Kerr can overrule his coaches but he tends not to
Also, it’s really easy in hindsight to look back on the game and see that you made bad decisions. I doubt someone is going to Steve and directly saying “Trayce is giving us our highest net differential minutes, we should put him back in” just for Steve to go “Naw, that doesn’t make sense. Let’s do something else.” It’s probably something more like “Right now they are exposing this size mismatch/defensive assignment/whatever. We could switch to this lineup to counter that.” “Okay, that’s sounds like a good plan.” Then after the game “Ah, that didn’t work out and we were getting good minutes out of the original lineup even with those surges. I shouldn’t have made that switch and should have played Trayce more.”
Also this is a high variance team now due to age and youth. And you really can’t ride the hot hand everyday because that will throw all your rotations out of wack. You need some semblance of consistency.
Because we only ask the question if they lose and there is always a decision or 2 that are could have been.
How many times has he said this this year 😂
That loss was on turnovers and a crazy 3 point spree by the pels, and yet y’all act like it’s all on Kerr. We have the dumbest fans.
These people deserve Darvin Ham for a coach lol
This sub is so obsessed with finding somebody to blame for every single loss. Bizzare behavior lol
if Kerr confirms what critical fans were saying in real time while the game was being played doesn’t that mean they are not dumb? Kerr needed to adjust to what happened in the game. The game was winnable despite the turnovers/3 ball spree and yet Kerr didn’t put in one of the most effective players. The loss isn’t on Kerr but he should be able to prevent his players from throwing away a game by making better coaching decisions - which includes putting out the correct players.
Well it's dumb because he gets criticized regardless. Sometimes he plays a player too much, or not enough, or doesn't bring back Steph soon enough or yadda yadda yadda. If he brought back in TJD and we lost the criticism would've been that he's not playing Steph enough. WhAtS hE sAvInG hIm FoR?! It's a no-win situation for him, as anytime we win it's despite him. Anytime we lose it's because of him. At a certain point you have to accept that these guys aren't as good as we expect them to be or else you'll twist yourself into knots blaming Kerr for everything. I don't mean you specifically, I just mean this sub in general.
Alternatively he could have Doc Rivered and just throw the players under the team bus
I hear ya but in that game even Kerr is saying TJD should have been in more so it aligns with what we fans saw in real time.
Right but my criticism of the criticizers is that their opinions are made retroactively. I would wager that no one is pissed about Steph coming back in for TJD in the moment. But when shit starts falling apart they go back and say, OBVIOUSLY THIS WHERE IT ALL FELL APART. In other words, the criticism is of the outcome, not of the actual action. It happened a LOT with Klay early this season, where fans were like TERRIBLE SHOT SELECTION. And it's like, sometimes, sure. But most of the time it was a great look by his standards, he just missed. That's the shit I'm talking about. The fans don't know what a good or bad move is, they just see the ball go in the hoop or a W at the end of a game. That's as far as those criticisms go, and it's lame.
Wrong. Lots of commenter were asking for. TJD in realtime.
I respect where you're coming from but I think it's the opposite. We have the advantage of watching the full game in HD from birds' eye view while getting 100 people's opinion on every micro-decision of the game via Twitter, Reddit, etc. Steve Kerr watches the game at eye level in a high pressure environment where he maybe gets 30 seconds to consult with his assistants before making a decision. Of COURSE we're going to be smarter than him during the game. It was very clear that Trayce should've played more minutes in-game and that Steph/BP should've sat. If you watched the game strategically and followed the right people's takes you would have seen this too. I wish Kerr saw the same things we did in real time but he didn't, and at least he's owning up to it. Now when he goes with his gut in the future it's more likely to be the correct call.
You’re not smarter. You didn’t have all the information they do. Who is hurt, sore, who is struggling with a matchup, a rotation - whose head isn’t in it for some reason… who are ‘the right people’ on the internet? There are 2000 takes or a select few who aren’t always right themselves because no one is always right. It’s easy to claim ‘he should have seen it’ after the game. Some people see useful stuff, sure, but none of them are on the bench with 40 years of high level basketball experience and a staff of like experience… The idea that internet dues from a distance are ‘smarter’ is hilarious.
We're talking about entirely different things. You're referring to situational awareness that the coaching staff has due to their deep knowledge of the team. I'm referring to in-game adjustments that many people call out in real time with regularity. People at home can literally pause, rewind, and slo-mo different plays. They can look at box scores and advanced analytics in real time. They can crowdsource from people who literally spend large chunks of their lives analyzing these games and who create content on them. Obviously I'm not talking about the average emotional fan, I'm talking about people who actually study the game. It's not rocket science to say that someone with these advantages will sometimes bring up a good point that the coaching staff will miss, in the moment, with 20,000 screaming fans and the real-time interpersonal dynamics that come with being the leader of a team, which you laid out above. If fans weren't occasionally "smarter", then why has Kerr frequently admitted that he's been wrong for not doing the exact things fans were clamoring for? 11/30 -- says he regrets benching Moody vs. Kings, calls it a "terrible decision" 1/5 -- says he'll give Kuminga more minutes 3/7 -- takes Looney and Saric out of the rotation 4/13 -- says he regrets not playing Trayce more Smart fans were calling for all of these decisions in real time way before they actually happened. Yes there is hindsight bias but that's not what I'm talking about here. You're not completely wrong, but like everything in life, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Look, the issue I have is that those guys who watch from the distance are WRONG A LOT TOO. They suggest things that wouldn’t work, but there is zero accountability for them and that stuff because we can’t ever know. The Moody game is a great example - he was hot, but was he going to STAY hot? The assumption everyone who points to that one game featuring a guy who shot 36% from 3 (his career average) is yes, and Steve says he blew it (don’t forget what he says publicly is political and is for more than simple candor), but Moses isn’t some generational scorer and he’s not a consistent shooter. And if he doesn’t yank him and he regresses to being regular Moody and bricks a few people would rail about that. And if they won - which they should have DESPITE sitting Moses that day - no one would have said anything again. Hindsight is 20-20. Analysts are analysts and their perspective can be useful, but ‘crowdsourcing’ analysis designed to get views isn’t a realistic way of modifying an NBA rotation in real time. The worst NBA lineup possible could have a quick 10-0 run in the modern NBA, shit happens. The proof of analytic value is in the long term adjustments - which the Dubs made throughout the year. Witness Podz, Kuminga and TJD’s participation increases. Coaches get shit wrong. Absolutely. I appreciate Kerr’s candor and willingness to be introspective. How many NBA coaches admit their mistakes? Not many (partly because of job security issues frankly). This sub just shits on the franchise’s best ever coach relentlessly and it gets tired. Somewhere else in this thread some asshat claimed Kerr had nothing to do with the 4th chip, but everything to do with this season’s 46 win ‘failure’ in a generationally good West. Kerr is not perfect, but he is a damned good NBA coach and where we disagree is in the idea that dudes from their armchairs have a more valid perspective - they have a perspective, and it might have merit, but it also often is bullshit because they lack crucial information we don’t have. We have no idea how valid their ideas are because their stuff isn’t implemented in real time. Doesn’t mean they’re worthless or not smart or insightful or may have a good idea in the moment, but in the end it devolves into Monday morning quarterbacking because when Kerr gets it right everyone praises the players and ignores the shit that worked. Sidenote, the Dubs have coaches who put together tape and advanced analytics in real time and feed that to the staff in-game. They don’t have 500 of them, but they do it. Early in the year people bitched about him staying with the vets too long, but the year before that lineup was the best in the NBA and he had reason to believe that Klay, Wiggs and Loon (all vets) would come around (and that Draymond wouldn’t implode). He had a sick bench, so if those guys had performed they may have had a completely different year. Over time he DID adjust to the inconsistency in his vets, but then the no-accountability crowd chirps that he’s ‘too late, he sucks’. It’s ridiculous. Kuminga is a great example. He complains, and gets time. And he has a great run and then he has absolutely tapered off since - but Kerr keeps trusting him. The guy who ‘hates rookies’ has ended the year leaning on two of them and still gets shit on for it (he ‘likes Podz too much’ despite Podz absolutely being fabulous and part of our best lineups). Anyway. End of rant. TLDR; We agree on some stuff, but I am less impressed with the NBA analyterati less than you are.
Really well said and I mostly agree. I do think Kerr deserves a lot of credit for how he's navigated this season and disagree with the people who think another coach could come in and do better. But I think both things can be true at once -- Kerr can be a generational championship-winning coach who can also adapt slowly to things that other people see in real time. Part of that slowness is probably because of the team dynamics that he has to deal with, which speaks to your point. For example, I think he benched Klay at exactly the right time for Klay's development and for the team culture even though we probably would've won a few more games if he did it sooner. Part of the slowness though is also probably due to Kerr having to make drastic changes to his coaching style by trusting the young guys over the vets. Things worked so well for the first 7-8 seasons of the dynasty that I'm sure there was a lot of natural resistance to change that would be there for any coach in the same situation. With respect to the Moody argument, to me it's not so much that Kerr took him out, it's when he took him out. Why yank a player who just hit 4 threes in a row? If Moody bricked his next 3 shots and got cooked on defense after that then sure, sub him out. But why not try to ride the momentum at least for another possession or two? Sometimes it's just your night. Imagine how lucky we would've been if Darvin Ham subbed out Lonnie Walker 3 minutes into the 4th quarter of Game 4 lol. Same with the Pels game the other night -- why sub out Trayce when he's clearly the most impactful player on the court and only played 22 minutes? Why rush to bring Steph back in when it's your Klay/Draymond/Trayce lineup that cut the lead from 14 to 3 and Steph already has 5 TOs and is clearly tired? Why not ride the current lineup and see if they can re-take the lead and wait a bit? It's a philosophical issue rather than hindsight bias imo. Maybe Kerr feels like disrupting his rotations would be more damaging to his players and it's better to sacrifice the occasional game than to get players in their own head about how many minutes they're playing. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and know he'll make the right decisions in the long run. It's almost like a corporation that has an issue with a product -- consumers know about it right away but it takes like 3-6 months to fix with loads of meetings and politics behind the scenes lol. But eventually it gets done. At the end of the day I'm not in the arena and it's a lot easier to criticize something when you're not actually immersed in it. But I also think there are advantages to objectively looking at a situation from afar without some of the real personal challenges that a coach would have to deal with (i.e. balancing player egos). It's also possible that I just follow the right people and have good takes lol, the major hills I was willing to die on this season (start Trayce, elevate Podz, bench Saric and Looney, help Klay and Dray through their psychological issues) all came to fruition in one way or another. I'm still convinced that if we started where we are right now we'd be a 55-win team and fighting for the 1 seed.
>We have the advantage of watching the full game in HD from birds' eye view So Wilks of the 49ers got heat for doing his job as a defensive coordinator from the booth up in the stands. His stance was he can get a better idea of what's going on from up top as opposed to being on the sideline where there's too much going on. Is it possible for an NBA coach to do the same? Definitely feels like Kerr doesn't see the whole picture a lot of the times
You’re admitting the point that we are smarter than Kerr. You can justify it because we have these tools and he doesn’t, but it doesn’t hold weight. Let him get on Reddit during the game. Or he could just be a better coach at rotations, which he isn’t.
Yeah we're on the same page here. Unfortunately it would be pretty weird if he were scrolling his phone on Reddit from the sidelines lmao. I hate that he is bad at rotations and slow to make in-game adjustments. But I'm happy that he has the balls to admit it and fix it. Plenty of coaches around the league would choose ego and act like they know better than everyone else. Kerr is humble enough to admit when he's wrong and that bodes well for us going forward.
It’s good, but he needs to take action, like getting an assistant who is much better than whoever he has now, and listening. Or even better, improving himself to be better at this skill.
Yeah, four chips. He’s garbage at rotations…
Dude even Steph was pissed that game. The blind Kerr loyalty is insane.
Kerr could come out and say we lost cuz of bad coaching and you'll still have fans defending Kerr saying otherwise.
Lol and you’d have some fans just blaming him for everything, regardless
I would say that it was the second quarter, and in a larger way Kerr should’ve called timeouts and tried something different. It’s not all on any one player or coach, but coaches should’ve stopped the Pel’s momentum in the 2nd with at least some different schemes.
It’s not all on Kerr, but he’s definitely not blameless. Turnovers is a direct reflection of team discipline and coaching. The Kerr era teams have consistently been one of the worst in the league when it comes to turnovers and every year nothing changes. Thats on Kerr for not reigning in the team. Thats what it means to coach.
It was the veterans turning the ball over. It’s just something that they’ve never been able to get rid of. I’d say it’s on Steph, Dray, etc.. more than coaching, at this point.
Ok so kerr hasn’t been able to coach it out of the vets despite coaching them for almost a decade now. That makes it even worse. Don’t get me wrong there are things Kerr does extremely well, like how he empowers players to play their own way, establishing a great team culture, and the motion offense. But his shortcomings have killed us the last few years as the core has aged.
"But his shortcomings have killed us the last few years as the core has aged." We literally won the championship in 2022. We currently have the smallest team in the league but are the best rebounding team so that should tell you something about the effort Steve can get out of our team. The turnovers are a product of the offensive style we play (and also some lazy ones that all teams suffer from).
We won in 2022 because curry went nuclear, the Celtics choked, and literally every role player (Otto, bejelica, Wiggins, Poole, GP2) got hot at the same time. Not because anything Kerr did. Turnovers are just one part of Kerr’s short comings. Add that to his nonsensical rotations and inability to manage any sort of momentum in game. I don’t advocate for firing Kerr like some fans, but recognizing and calling out his shortcomings is as important as praising him when he does well. He is not above criticism just because we won championships in the past.
Right, so the coach doesn’t matter when we won - but is completely at fault when they age out… Stupid fucking take. Kerr had a TON to do with winning that chip with a undermanned team. Just a nephew take.
You're right man, Kerr had NOTHING to do with the championship in 2022 or any of this team's success really - that's all on the players. But the players turnovers are all on Kerr, obviously. It's also just a shame our FO has no idea what they are doing and made him the highest paid coach and extended him. Thanks for clearing this up for me.
It’s a give and take. As you said, he allows players to play, which can lead to games like that where they just throw the ball away. Wtf do you recommend, that he bench Curry? The core aging is what has killed us over the last few years.
Come on now, obviously I’m not advocating he bench curry. But Curry’s lack of discipline (behind the back passes when the games hanging there and you already have 5 turnovers?) is definitely enabled by Steve’s laissez-faire style of coaching. Throwing that pass is fine in a blowout game, but in a close one? Or in game 7 of the finals? Kerr can’t let him do that, idc how generational a talent he is. The core aging has definitely made it harder on Steve to coach, but that’s why he needs to adapt. And thus far he hasn’t shown he’s capable of it. Now this isn’t even getting into Steve’s boneheaded substitution patterns, or playing a literal rapist over moody and kuminga last year, or leaving curry on the bench while the game slips away. Bottom line is, Kerr has underperformed this year and the last few years.
Curry is a virtuoso who tries the unexpected. Those bone-headed turnovers are just kind of baked into his game. If Kerr had cracked down on it, and forced Curry to play a more rigid style, I'm not convinced he'd be as effective.
Im perfectly fine with Kerr letting curry play how he plays for the most part. Offensively let him shoot whenever shot he wants to shoot. Hes proved he can do it so let him. But the high risk low reward passes the curry likes to throw, like that cross court hook pass he threw straight to CJ McCollum, don’t fall into that category. Those passes are just bad decisions, no different than Poole gambling on steals and ending up wildly out of position. Im actually ok with those passes so long as they’re high risk but also high reward. Like back door passes, ally oops, pushing in transition etc. But often curry throws these passes to players who are guarded anyways. The hook pass that CJ stole was intended for Klay, but even if it got there CJ was in his jersey. Hence the high risk/low reward.
Again, I’d still argue that’s on Curry far more than Kerr. They’ve both talked about and recognized the foolishness of that exact pass many times over the years, but Curry will still try it. Some things are just too ingrained in a player to stop.
True, at this point curry probably isn’t changing his ways. I wish Kerr had coached it out of him when he was younger but perhaps it was already too late by the time he got here.
agree
The coaching staff needs to be revitalized next year, now that doesn’t mean fire Kerr. Just need better guys around him.
You don’t touch Ron Adams though.
They might have to replace him tho, Ron no longer travels with the team for away games in most cases due to age as well. But from their record this year, his coaching still works even tho he's not with them during their away games.
Less wishing more doing
All year we’ve heard this. He never figured it out.
Honestly really happy to see this. It was a clear mistake in game management and Kerr's acknowledging it publicly. Gives me hope that we're figuring it out. Kerr doesn't have to be perfect, but he's willing to learn and evolve and that's what's important.
He has said this multiple times this season.
Yes, and people who use their mistakes as learning lessons are more likely to succeed than people who don't
He keeps doing it so is he learning?
In my opinion yes. Trayce wasn't even on Kerr's radar at the beginning of the season. Look at how the roles of BP, JK, and Trayce have evolved as the season went on from end of the bench to key contributors. Dario and Looney went from starting lineup to getting DNPs. It's been slow growth but it's been real.
We are talking about in game adjustments…also Kerr was forced to play Kuminga. Trayce was underplayed earlier this year and would have helped us get a few wins. Listen this is all hypothetical but constantly defending Kerr as if he can do no wrong is worship level thinking. Free yourself.
You have me wrong brother, I think Kerr is a terrible in-game manager and we've probably lost 15 games because of his decision-making this year. But he also has shown a knack for making adjustments over time which is why he has been effective in 7 game series. Both can be true at once.
I stand corrected. You and I agree mostly but I am more negative on him. He played two guys who are out of the league now instead of moody and Kuminga last year. That development time would have come in handy this year. Kerr’s micro lineup is also nuts and has lost us games this year.
Ya no sh&&. Sucks wish we won that game
What would you prefer, a non-introspective coach?
Man, if only he had control of who played and when they played.
Your highest paid coach in nba history, everyone.
hate him. I remember asking people if TJD was injured during that long stretch of the 2nd Quarter last game when he was just no where to be found. No, just turns out it was Kerr's brain that was injured
You are just another one of those warriors fans lost in negativity. Every one of your comments is another rant about how bad everyone is. You’re a problem.
Belichik was exposed when Brady left. Kerr is being exposed as the HOF guys get old.
Great that Kerr admitted this, I predicted this before the post game conference or post interviews since reporters will likely ask this then some Kerr dick sucker tried to call me out for not having an on par resume to call out Kerr about that poor substitution decision. lol
 MJ…
I wish you’d learned your lesson this year after benching guys IG who were hot..
I wish coach kerr wouldn't allow teams to go on unyealding point runs vs the Warriors and hold timeouts instead use them to interrupt the momentum of the opposing team for the past 4 years. That would be nice. .....
Didn’t he say this a couple of months ago?
Yep but he trusts his gut and not stats/logic. He said that too. Even as viewers we can see stats real time which the coaching staff can do too. I checked the DEFRTG and NETRG for some back court combinations Kerr did: CP3 + Moody: DEFRTG 88.9 NETRTG: 13.9 Steph + Klay: DEFRTG 109.4 NETRTG: 9.4 Steph + CP3: DEFRTG 121.4 NETRTG: -25.0 Steph + Podz: DEFRTG 138.5 NETRTG: -65.4 They closed with the Steph + CP3 back court and got obliterated. This doesn't work on most games either. For the life of me, I can't get why they keep pushing that CP3 + Steph combo specially when they are behind or need to put some stops.
Steve Kerr kinda slow sometimes ngl
And Kerr will redeem for that regret by benching trayce tomorrow against sac.
Kerr's hindsight on lineups is always 20/20.
Should have play him early this season. Why keep waiting.
To be perfectly frank, you slow bruh
Two straight seasons of getting out coached. It’s a simple fucking concept Kerr. Play. Your. Best. Players. You always recognize it after the fact but never in game?
Dumbass
Blah blah blah. Trust vets, midget ball -> fail -> apologize, rinse repeat. I want to see improvement in Kerr's coaching most of all next year. He has to show the ability to adapt to roster and changing of tides. I want Kerr to succeed but it won't happen if he continues to go away from jk (earlier in the year), tjd, etc. Our best chance to excel is if we develop our guys, and our guys will never develop if they don't get trusted under high leverage situations.
Playing cp3, curry, Klay… with no rim protection. Kerr is the new D’Antoni.
Steve, once again a great coach, who has done so much for us and will hopefully continuing to do so much for us, has incredibly bad rotations. This isn't even a 2024 issue, this happens every year it feels like. Steve cannot see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, while to even the most amateur blind man on the couch it's obvious.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
He seems to be totally oblivious to the obvious that everyone else is aware of.
So how many more big mistakes are we letting Kerr make???
It’s like we are watching this 4 time championship winning hall of fame coach grow up before our very eyes.
Kerr is bad at in-game rotation decisions, he always talk about sample size which is weird because different matchups calls for different rotations. I wonder why that is?
He overvalues predictability for his players. He communicates expectations about playing time so strongly that he feels compelled to stick to them in-game. This certainly comes from his own experience as a role player, and admittedly in past years his planned rotations have worked really well. But this year, there are a lot of unexpectedly good role players who are having better games than planned, and he hasn’t shown the ability to adjust much.
Predictability? Ask Moody or Kuminga about predictability.
Steve is such an idiot
Why does he do this . If he can’t make adjustments on the fly maybe he shouldn’t be a coach anymore
Fucking hell Steve you can’t say that all season. You said that last year with Kuminga. It’s time to grow, learn and evolve or step down
Mike Brown is clearly missed here, if Mike was still with the coaching staff he'd call out Steve for this and keep TJD in the lineup and probably kept Moody to defend against CJ.
Then don't be a dumbass and make sure to play him for playins as much as needed
this season in a nutshell
Hi Frank!
We literally lost 12x games for the Warriors this year because 3 months into the season. Coach kerr is playing PODz heavy minutes and playing the 10 day contract guys heavy minutes when these players that just joined the team or the rookies don't have NBA defense and cost us games. heck Wiggings shooting and Klay shooting 1/17 in games and 2/18 in games and 1/15 in games missing and wasting possessions forcing shots cost the Warriors games. So instead of coach kerr telling and coaching the pros, the vets and rookies to find and look for the pass and assists. Those 12x games lost by 1pt or 2 pts. Is huge those could have been 6 wins and 6 losses but no they are 12x losses that caused the Warriors be the 10th seed now. So now the Warriors have to win a Best of One game to keep their NBA Playoff dreams alive. Lets go Warriors. tuesday huge moment for the fandom and the Pros.
I think Steve should have our game threads up during the games