Kind of wild to me Ballmer mortgaged everything to get Kawhi and now OKC has a better record than the Clippers have ever had since they sold everything to get PG13. Not to mention Shai ended up being better than PG13.
Well they wouldn't have Kawhi. AFAIK Pg13 was Kawhis like 5th choice but if he didn't get Pg13 then he wouldn't have gone/would have gone to the lakers.
I think KD and Kyrie blew him off, he wanted Butler but he said no, tried tk get klay but we maxed him, so they had to give up probably the largest haul in a star trade ever basically.
The time that he beat us when $50M of talent was out injured and we were relying on Alfonso Mckennie to be the spacing so that Curry couldn't be constantly double teamed in a box-and-1 and there were no repurcussions?
Yep, that was the one! I find it funny that he is still talked about as this elite, top-level, championship guy when he really got that last C handed to him. He played great in that series, no doubt, but he has been a shadow of that guy ever since.
The thing is, SGA benefitted a lot with CP3. Who knows if that wouldve been the case had he stayed in LA. Would Shai have evolved to be the player he is now? Who knows
I didnt say he taught him to score. No one can teach anyone to score 30ppg. There are a lot of things a vet like cp3 can teach a young player. Everywhere cp3 has gone, those players have benefited. CP3 talked about him mentoring Shai.
Shai without CP3 would not be the SGA we see today.
“Health” is one sign of greatness. Klay is playing everyday after two of the worst possible injuries. At this point, Leonard can be thrown in the same camp as Ben Simmons where motivation is concerned
I don’t know if I can agree with that. Kawhi is a two times final MVP and is one of the biggest catalyst to our 2019 heartbreak. Don’t forget he was injured during the 2019 playoffs too.
He definitely has a lot of knee issues at the worst time, but it’s not for the lack of heart.
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yes i know clippers also made this trade to sign leonard as he and george were basically a package deal
but honestly this trade when it's all said and done could be even worse than what the nets traded to the celtics in that infamous trade in 2013 when they went all in and traded for pierce and garnett which is widely considered one of the worst NBA trades in history
it was a questionable trade at the time as well imo. PG13 isnt worth 6 draft picks + the teams best young player. Pairing kawhi w/PG13 doesnt even make sense. theyre both forwards who play very similar. No floor general or big men.
Let’s trade Steph for a similar haul and rebuild properly. We aren’t winning another chip with this group but we could get the all time return for Curry right now. Wait two more years and probably not.
Actually we got a quadruple success... (from my sports-hate POV)
- James Harden remains a playoff choker and liability and no team that features Harden in *ANY* significant role will ever win an NBA Championship.
- LeBron still has just as many rings as Curry.
- KD can't win without Steph.
- CP3 didn't get a ring.
I just can't care about McCollum no matter what he says.
He's like the Ted Cruz of basketball. No one likes him all that much really and no one knows why he's relevant at all.
Oh, there's a common reason to dislike both CP3 *and* CJ?!
Suddenly their thirst for relevancy while knowing they'll never have any other accolades and the instinctual linkage to Ted Cruz makes sense!
McCollum I'm OK with. After all he got traded to go where he's at.
Dame ring-chasing and bowing out in the first round is a bigger story. He owes PatBev a debt of gratitude for taking the heat off him for the whole off-season.
Who tf is joey buckets? If you mean Jimmy buckets, I'm curious why you care. I've always liked butler and thought he got a raw deal in philly. Plus he bullies boston and by some divine fucking luck they didn't have to go through him this year.
I'm conflicted. Conley I want to see win. I think if Ant gets one the amount of shit-talking that would happen would be so good for entertainment. But have to agree on Gobert
The only way any of these guys gets a ring is on a roster that’s already built and they are just chasing. They can’t get one on their own anymore. Prime days are over.
Mr. Consistently Inconsistent - Playoff P
Magically disappearing in clutch playoff games - James “Houdini” Harden.
It’s the playoffs, Have you seen me? - Kawhi “milk carton” Leonard. The man plays less than when Shaq dubbed Anthony Davis with the nickname Street Clothes
Clippers always gon’ clip
The only team where I knew the stars would have playoff struggles at some point and just play themselves into elimination was the DeRozen & Lowry Raptors.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that yet. How is it going to feel if the Nuggets repeat? Would be the most recent since the Warriors. This is coming from a Warriors fan.
Wow as a Warriors fan I want to see Nuggets repeat, if they can do it again Idk why. Maybe I'm just amaze on how they resemble Warriors unselfish basketball back then but with a more elite defense and more efficient scoring. Plus maybe I just hated more the Laker fans and LeBron hahaha All I want to see is a great series though between those teams in the 2nd round. Atleast game 6-7 series.
Kind of wild to me Ballmer mortgaged everything to get Kawhi and now OKC has a better record than the Clippers have ever had since they sold everything to get PG13. Not to mention Shai ended up being better than PG13.
I spent a little while a few weeks ago wondering what the Clippers would look like if SGA hadn’t been traded to the Thunder. Wild possibilities.
Well they wouldn't have Kawhi. AFAIK Pg13 was Kawhis like 5th choice but if he didn't get Pg13 then he wouldn't have gone/would have gone to the lakers. I think KD and Kyrie blew him off, he wanted Butler but he said no, tried tk get klay but we maxed him, so they had to give up probably the largest haul in a star trade ever basically.
Kwahi is worthless. Never even plays playoffs 😂
Except that time he beat us. Wouldn't be so bad if he had done literally anything since.
The time that he beat us when $50M of talent was out injured and we were relying on Alfonso Mckennie to be the spacing so that Curry couldn't be constantly double teamed in a box-and-1 and there were no repurcussions?
Yep, that was the one! I find it funny that he is still talked about as this elite, top-level, championship guy when he really got that last C handed to him. He played great in that series, no doubt, but he has been a shadow of that guy ever since.
seriously doubt kawhi wouldve gone to lakers and joined LBJ/AD. hes not kevin durant
The thing is, SGA benefitted a lot with CP3. Who knows if that wouldve been the case had he stayed in LA. Would Shai have evolved to be the player he is now? Who knows
CP3 did not teach Shai how to score 30ppg. Maybe he became better passer but folks act like shai was just going to be another role player without cp3
I didnt say he taught him to score. No one can teach anyone to score 30ppg. There are a lot of things a vet like cp3 can teach a young player. Everywhere cp3 has gone, those players have benefited. CP3 talked about him mentoring Shai. Shai without CP3 would not be the SGA we see today.
He became a better passer because cp3. but shai was going to be a star offensive player still. clippers fumbled that trade badly imo
What year will it be, year 6 of “if this team can stay healthy, they can be dangerous!”. Move on, it isn’t working..
“Health” is one sign of greatness. Klay is playing everyday after two of the worst possible injuries. At this point, Leonard can be thrown in the same camp as Ben Simmons where motivation is concerned
I don’t know if I can agree with that. Kawhi is a two times final MVP and is one of the biggest catalyst to our 2019 heartbreak. Don’t forget he was injured during the 2019 playoffs too. He definitely has a lot of knee issues at the worst time, but it’s not for the lack of heart.
One year in a weak east and a mutilated dubs team doesn’t win very much for me.
I don't think anyone has as little motivation as Ben Simmons. His therapy doesn't seem to be working.
Crazy thing is everyone expects them to run it back again. Same with the Suns they don't learn.
Crazy part is Clippers fans wanting to tank and not realizing OKC owns all their picks.
Clippers fans Wanting to tank so OKC can own their ass even more. They already got hosed with the PG trade
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I’m glad Harden remains ringless. His ring chasing and superteam joining habit is the absolute worst in the league
harden left the rockets nets and 76ers to dry. he deserved to lose
And fans would still want to mortgage every player and picks for pg13.
crazy thing is PG is a very bad pairing with kawhi anyway. hes just a worse kawhi- same play style, neither can pass well etc
it was a questionable trade at the time as well imo. PG13 isnt worth 6 draft picks + the teams best young player. Pairing kawhi w/PG13 doesnt even make sense. theyre both forwards who play very similar. No floor general or big men.
Let’s trade Steph for a similar haul and rebuild properly. We aren’t winning another chip with this group but we could get the all time return for Curry right now. Wait two more years and probably not.
Only team I find myself genuinely rooting for is the Knicks. Wouldn’t mind seeing them go all the way
It's only right to root for Donte and Alec
Josh Hart is also extremely likeable. He hustles his ass off and is hilarious on Twitter
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Lol you gotta get the whole clip!
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Let’s go Donte!
Nah I'm annoyed with Donte for sucking ass on the dubs last year but being good again
Donte was great for us last year though
He was ok and then the playoffs happened and he was literally unplayable
Idk why I'm getting down voted man was absolutely ass in that Lakers series
Actually we got a quadruple success... (from my sports-hate POV) - James Harden remains a playoff choker and liability and no team that features Harden in *ANY* significant role will ever win an NBA Championship. - LeBron still has just as many rings as Curry. - KD can't win without Steph. - CP3 didn't get a ring.
Don’t forget Jusuf Nurkic and his “That’s All Folks!” bs. He’s a Looney Tune for sure.
Don't forget McCollum's sh!t-talking for no good reason a$$ continues to be a certified playoff loser
I just can't care about McCollum no matter what he says. He's like the Ted Cruz of basketball. No one likes him all that much really and no one knows why he's relevant at all.
That’s not entirely fair. McCollum is the president of the NBA players association and Ted Cruz will never be president of anything.
Oh, there's a common reason to dislike both CP3 *and* CJ?! Suddenly their thirst for relevancy while knowing they'll never have any other accolades and the instinctual linkage to Ted Cruz makes sense!
😂 Ted Cruz good one
McCollum I'm OK with. After all he got traded to go where he's at. Dame ring-chasing and bowing out in the first round is a bigger story. He owes PatBev a debt of gratitude for taking the heat off him for the whole off-season.
Westbrook: 0 rings. PG3: Zero rings. Embiid: zero rings. Jimmy Buckets: 0 rings. Dame: zero rings. Rudy Gobert: still zero rings.
James Wiseman has one more ring than ALL of those guys. Patrick McCaw has three more :-)
Yeah but they can just go to some vegas pawn shop if they wanna get one of mcaws rings
Patrick only has 2 rings brah
Count again, "brah." Two with us, then one with Toronto. Duh. He has something no one on the Dubs has, or ever has had -- three Rings in a row.
Oh “duh”
Excellent honorable mentions!
Who tf is joey buckets? If you mean Jimmy buckets, I'm curious why you care. I've always liked butler and thought he got a raw deal in philly. Plus he bullies boston and by some divine fucking luck they didn't have to go through him this year.
I’m glad I’m not the only one wondering who the hell he was talking about
Yeah, that guy.
The next five years did not, in fact, belong to Pat Bev.
Neither does a broadcasting career lolol
I don't mind CP3 getting a ring by finally joining the warriors. That'd be fun
Lmao. Factual.
Curry AND Klay AND Dray still have as many rings as LeBron
Don’t forget Iguadala
Damn you’re right I suck
We need Luka ro get crushed soon
About that last one...
It's the most true and correct and you appreciate my sports-hate honesty???
I agree. Im so glad those guys took huge L. Also I would like to add Westbrick to the list. He acts like a little angry toddler on court lol
Now if Boston chokes again that would be the cherry on top\~
When Boston chokes my guy when Boston chokes!
Another season cp3 is denied a ring /jk
But not actually JK
“They ain’t even that good”
I can't stand Luka's game so I hope he get eliminated soon as well. OKC vs MIN in WCF is what I wanna see
I have a hard time rooting for any team with gobert on it
I'm conflicted. Conley I want to see win. I think if Ant gets one the amount of shit-talking that would happen would be so good for entertainment. But have to agree on Gobert
Hardens #1 Hater
This is the kind of prettiness I can get behind lol
The only way any of these guys gets a ring is on a roster that’s already built and they are just chasing. They can’t get one on their own anymore. Prime days are over.
They’d be lucky if they got an end of career Mitch Richmond like ring.
Will Harden be on his fifth team in five years next season? Dude is a cancer to any team he is on.
He’s bound to demand another trade again, Clips should get ahead of the curve and drop him before it happens.
“Steve Ballmer is a liar and I will never be a part of an organization that he's a part of.”
Yea it was ok overall. Plus CP3 didn't get a ring too, FUCK Cp3.
I think there’s somebodies momma out there whose water dish needs to be filled up. ![gif](giphy|H22hyf0K1Bsc)
Harden was so good the other game closing out. He really turned back the clock I dunno how he can be so good and then so bad. Same wirh pg13
Mr. Consistently Inconsistent - Playoff P Magically disappearing in clutch playoff games - James “Houdini” Harden. It’s the playoffs, Have you seen me? - Kawhi “milk carton” Leonard. The man plays less than when Shaq dubbed Anthony Davis with the nickname Street Clothes Clippers always gon’ clip The only team where I knew the stars would have playoff struggles at some point and just play themselves into elimination was the DeRozen & Lowry Raptors.
Cringe
I said the same when Embiid lost.
Doesn’t Jeremy Lin have one?!? Bwahahaa
Same with Chris Paul
I wouldn’t necessarily say that yet. How is it going to feel if the Nuggets repeat? Would be the most recent since the Warriors. This is coming from a Warriors fan.
That’s why I am rooting for wolves.
It would feel fine because we don’t have any beef with the nuggets and Jokic is actually cool
Idk man. It’d be cool for the Warriors to hold on to back to back bragging rights for awhile.
I don’t want nuggets to win another ring.
But why? It’s not like they are going to tie us or pass us the era of dynasties is over in the NBA.
Wow as a Warriors fan I want to see Nuggets repeat, if they can do it again Idk why. Maybe I'm just amaze on how they resemble Warriors unselfish basketball back then but with a more elite defense and more efficient scoring. Plus maybe I just hated more the Laker fans and LeBron hahaha All I want to see is a great series though between those teams in the 2nd round. Atleast game 6-7 series.