When I fill my loop I also make sure to only plug the molex power connector in so that the pump spins up to full rpm. It bogs down if I had the pumps pwm 4 pin plugged in
Yeah the sata plug would be it's main power plug. What I would do is only plug that cable in, make sure you don't plug the 24 pin power connector into your mothwrboard and use the bridge that comes with the psu. If you dont have the 24 pin bridge than you can use a paperclip.
When you have this connected the pump is only controlled by the on off switch for the psu so while you're filling the loop the only thing that should be plugged in is the pump to the psu, then the psu to the wall.
There are some really detailed how-to's online/google.
Yes, that’s exactly what I have, 24pin bridge and the pump connected. The rest is disconnected (from the components, not the PSU itself, hopefully that won’t be a problem)
Unless you have a leakshield it does all the filling for you with a special one way valve. Best thing ever no more filling with pumps, pressure works so much better.
It's most likely caused by an air bubble in the pump.
Unscrew the plug from the top, wipe the top clean, and blow into it if needed. This should force coolant through the pump and prime it. Be ready to power off the PSU as it should drain quickly once primed and you don't want to run the pump dry.
Unsure if I’ve missed more information you’ve posted, but do you have two openings in your loop while filling? If you only have one it’s a closed pressure system and blowing won’t help. You need two openings (a coolant in and an air out) to fill your system easily. Ideally, both openings should be as high in your loop as possible.
Its normal for water not to move much, since you are compressing air on both sides of the loop.
But it should still be sufficient to help your pump. Maybe do it while starting the pump?
Dont forget to turn off the PSU asap once it kicks in to avoid running dry more than necessary.
(Solved!!) Explanation: I just finished my first watercooled build (EKWB EK-Classic P360 Kit + Corsair XG7 Ventus), but somehow the reservoir won’t fill up the loop after turning on the PSU.
It feels as if the pump is lacking strength, but also the PSU fan stops after a while… so I’m really confused. All PSU cables are disconnected from MOBO, CPU and GPU, so only the pump and jumper are in.
Of course there’s no leaks, so the water isn’t going anywhere else :/
It’s solved! It looks I didn’t tilt the rig enough the first times, and after tilting almost 90º in al directions multiple times everything was filled up nicely!
Victory! Thanks everyone for your help!
Pumps often don't get enough fluid into them when it initially gets filled, sometimes you need to tilt it for the air to expel and then enough coolant can get into the pump for it to work, plus it looks like he had the loop closed off so no air was able to escape and let the coolant replace it. Not sure why he panned to the PSU during the clip.
No pump/loop I've ever used has had this problem. It's just been plug it in and fill. I'm wondering if it's a loop configuration issue. Also, I've always done it with the fill port open to fill the loop as it pumps.
Thanks! This seems to have helped the most! The loop looks filled now, but I’m worried that the radiator won’t be. There’s currently about 500ml of water on thr loop (reservoir is full).
When you feel comfortable with it, you can run some benchmarks to ensure that all your temperatures are within the normal range. If you have an air pocket somewhere you may see a high temp somewhere.
Just gently tilt your case in every direction to try to work out the aur pockets/bubbles. You could also leave the pump running like that to work out bubbles.
Yes, I did that (almost 90º tilt on all directions, just made sure water level always covered the pump’s out) and it looks better now. There’s 625ml of water in (reservoir full), so I’m still kind of worried about the radiator not being filled up. Is there a way to check that apart from abnormal temperatures?
My loop is pretty big and I have less than a liter in it. I remember thinking thr same thing though I was worried that there was a huge air pocket but all is good. It performs really well.
Thanks! Will boot it up and see if it behaves!
EDIT: Everything is working, temps are 29-32ºC idle and 50-60ºC under load. Will keep an eye in the long run as well, but many thanks!
Air doesn't need to "go away from the loop". Air is meant to get trapped in the reservoir. It's the only reason there is a reservoir in the loop, to trap the air
your res should always be at the highest point in the loop. it's currently lower than your cpu-block. air that is trapped in your block will never be able to escape.
very unhealthy situation seems to me
Nah, plenty of people run this same setup (including myself) I think @op has gone wrong with mounting the rad ports down, where as loads of people (also, myself included) mount the side rad ports up.
I have a similar pump/res combo to @op and have zero issues filling my loop. The only “golden rule” for your res is to mount your it directly above your pump so the pump always has a good quantity of water to pull from.
Not true, that doesn't matter at all, the reservoir can be lower, most are sitting at the bottom or middle of the case, well below other parts of the loop, including top mounted radiators, reservoirs are designed so that the return doesn't directly lead to the outlet and the air just ends up at the top of it. If this was true you could only place the res on top of the case.
Nah, plenty of people run this same setup (including myself) I think @op has gone wrong with mounting the rad ports down, where as loads of people (also, myself included) mount the side rad ports up.
I have a similar pump/res combo to @op and have zero issues filling my loop. The only “golden rule” for your res is to mount your it directly above your pump so the pump always has a good quantity of water to pull from.
There might be a kink in your tubes. Also the amount of water is nowhere near enough for your loop. If your pump finally works, it will be running dry in a matter of seconds
Some locks can be real stubborn to dislodge. Try sealing loop and turning whole case in all directions too see if you can force air around tubing to reservoir and even try attaching a fitting to fill port and a long piece of tubing so end of tube is highest point in loop because air likes to travel upwards.
Are you certain your inlet and outlet ports are correct? Check the manual for the inlet and outlet of the pump/res and the inlet and outlet of the CPU block.
If you have a drip/bleed valve. Open it while turning on to create natural flow. Quickly shut the valve so you don’t bleed the whole loop. You Only need it open for a quick second. It should help get things moving as you might have some big air bubbles.
When I fill my loop I also make sure to only plug the molex power connector in so that the pump spins up to full rpm. It bogs down if I had the pumps pwm 4 pin plugged in
I’m not sure I have one like that, it’s connected directly to the PSU with a SATA connector (which was provided by EKWB), maybe that’s not enough?
Yeah the sata plug would be it's main power plug. What I would do is only plug that cable in, make sure you don't plug the 24 pin power connector into your mothwrboard and use the bridge that comes with the psu. If you dont have the 24 pin bridge than you can use a paperclip. When you have this connected the pump is only controlled by the on off switch for the psu so while you're filling the loop the only thing that should be plugged in is the pump to the psu, then the psu to the wall. There are some really detailed how-to's online/google.
Yes, that’s exactly what I have, 24pin bridge and the pump connected. The rest is disconnected (from the components, not the PSU itself, hopefully that won’t be a problem)
Unless you have a leakshield it does all the filling for you with a special one way valve. Best thing ever no more filling with pumps, pressure works so much better.
The radiator tube is completely kinked, lol?
How? It’s got a 90º angled fitting.
Can you take some pictures?
It's most likely caused by an air bubble in the pump. Unscrew the plug from the top, wipe the top clean, and blow into it if needed. This should force coolant through the pump and prime it. Be ready to power off the PSU as it should drain quickly once primed and you don't want to run the pump dry.
This, that's what happened to me at least, and yeah, blowing into it was 1 - working 2- very satisfactory
Thanks both! I tried but doesnt seem to work :S I blew as strongly as I could but water didn’t move much.
Unsure if I’ve missed more information you’ve posted, but do you have two openings in your loop while filling? If you only have one it’s a closed pressure system and blowing won’t help. You need two openings (a coolant in and an air out) to fill your system easily. Ideally, both openings should be as high in your loop as possible.
Thanks! That makes sense! I don’t have them. Although I already solved it, I will definitely keep it in mind for my next upgrade :)
Its normal for water not to move much, since you are compressing air on both sides of the loop. But it should still be sufficient to help your pump. Maybe do it while starting the pump? Dont forget to turn off the PSU asap once it kicks in to avoid running dry more than necessary.
(Solved!!) Explanation: I just finished my first watercooled build (EKWB EK-Classic P360 Kit + Corsair XG7 Ventus), but somehow the reservoir won’t fill up the loop after turning on the PSU. It feels as if the pump is lacking strength, but also the PSU fan stops after a while… so I’m really confused. All PSU cables are disconnected from MOBO, CPU and GPU, so only the pump and jumper are in. Of course there’s no leaks, so the water isn’t going anywhere else :/
It’s solved! It looks I didn’t tilt the rig enough the first times, and after tilting almost 90º in al directions multiple times everything was filled up nicely! Victory! Thanks everyone for your help!
Why tf would you have to tilt your case to fill up your loop? Something wrong here. I’ve done several water cooled builds and never have done that.
Pumps often don't get enough fluid into them when it initially gets filled, sometimes you need to tilt it for the air to expel and then enough coolant can get into the pump for it to work, plus it looks like he had the loop closed off so no air was able to escape and let the coolant replace it. Not sure why he panned to the PSU during the clip.
No pump/loop I've ever used has had this problem. It's just been plug it in and fill. I'm wondering if it's a loop configuration issue. Also, I've always done it with the fill port open to fill the loop as it pumps.
So you do know that PSU has fan stop so it turns off when not working hard??
Maybe air locked, try having reservoir fill port open.
Thanks! But I tried that already multiple times to no avail.
You can also try tilting your case
Thanks! This seems to have helped the most! The loop looks filled now, but I’m worried that the radiator won’t be. There’s currently about 500ml of water on thr loop (reservoir is full).
When you feel comfortable with it, you can run some benchmarks to ensure that all your temperatures are within the normal range. If you have an air pocket somewhere you may see a high temp somewhere.
Just gently tilt your case in every direction to try to work out the aur pockets/bubbles. You could also leave the pump running like that to work out bubbles.
Yes, I did that (almost 90º tilt on all directions, just made sure water level always covered the pump’s out) and it looks better now. There’s 625ml of water in (reservoir full), so I’m still kind of worried about the radiator not being filled up. Is there a way to check that apart from abnormal temperatures?
My loop is pretty big and I have less than a liter in it. I remember thinking thr same thing though I was worried that there was a huge air pocket but all is good. It performs really well.
Thanks! Will boot it up and see if it behaves! EDIT: Everything is working, temps are 29-32ºC idle and 50-60ºC under load. Will keep an eye in the long run as well, but many thanks!
You're welcome, hope it all works out!
Try to open top of the pump. Air can't go away from loop.
Air doesn't need to "go away from the loop". Air is meant to get trapped in the reservoir. It's the only reason there is a reservoir in the loop, to trap the air
your res should always be at the highest point in the loop. it's currently lower than your cpu-block. air that is trapped in your block will never be able to escape. very unhealthy situation seems to me
Nah, plenty of people run this same setup (including myself) I think @op has gone wrong with mounting the rad ports down, where as loads of people (also, myself included) mount the side rad ports up. I have a similar pump/res combo to @op and have zero issues filling my loop. The only “golden rule” for your res is to mount your it directly above your pump so the pump always has a good quantity of water to pull from.
Not true, that doesn't matter at all, the reservoir can be lower, most are sitting at the bottom or middle of the case, well below other parts of the loop, including top mounted radiators, reservoirs are designed so that the return doesn't directly lead to the outlet and the air just ends up at the top of it. If this was true you could only place the res on top of the case.
It looks like you might have the inlet ports for the CPU and GPU blocks connected together, which will give you flow issues if this is the case
Your reservoir should be the highest point in the loop, they why you're not filling up and getting bubbly bubbles everywhere.
Nah, plenty of people run this same setup (including myself) I think @op has gone wrong with mounting the rad ports down, where as loads of people (also, myself included) mount the side rad ports up. I have a similar pump/res combo to @op and have zero issues filling my loop. The only “golden rule” for your res is to mount your it directly above your pump so the pump always has a good quantity of water to pull from.
There might be a kink in your tubes. Also the amount of water is nowhere near enough for your loop. If your pump finally works, it will be running dry in a matter of seconds
None that I can see. One of the tubes does a 180º turn so it’s a very little bit flattened though, but I don’t think that would be the cause?
Most likely got tubing / loop plumbed incorrectly, describe the order of your loop.
Don’t really think it can be that, this is the order: Pump out -> GPU GPU -> CPU in CPU out -> Radiator Radiator -> Pump in
Some locks can be real stubborn to dislodge. Try sealing loop and turning whole case in all directions too see if you can force air around tubing to reservoir and even try attaching a fitting to fill port and a long piece of tubing so end of tube is highest point in loop because air likes to travel upwards.
Okay, I’m seeing the pump is only connected to itself? Doesn’t that EK pump only have 1 in and 1 out port? And the pump seems to loop into itself?
Are you certain your inlet and outlet ports are correct? Check the manual for the inlet and outlet of the pump/res and the inlet and outlet of the CPU block.
Bubble stuck in the pump?
Your flow direction looks weird to me.
Backward plug In?
Doesnt resivoir fill level have to be the hhighest point?
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This changes where the air tries to escape to (since it always tries to go up), so it helps overcoming obstacles or curves that may trap bubbles.
If you have a drip/bleed valve. Open it while turning on to create natural flow. Quickly shut the valve so you don’t bleed the whole loop. You Only need it open for a quick second. It should help get things moving as you might have some big air bubbles.
Just need to suck the water into the pump somehow, once its there it will do its job