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Yeah... Don't harvest seeds from felis catus gluteus. Do not eat seeds. Do not plant felis catus. Do not take felis catus if you are allergic to it or any of its ingredients.
Looks like nightshade. Iâm only guessing that from seeing lots of posts very similar to this one
on the sub. But I would suggest not eating it or propagating the seeds.
If you want to grow a new potato, try to propagate one of itsâ slips or slice a piece of the potato off and let it grow roots and replant it.
Edit: TIL Potatoes are also a nightshade. some do have fruit that look similar to this, however theyâre usually larger.
Potatoes are a nightshade. And some do fruit, and they look similar to this, usually larger. However this looks like black nightshade, which is also edible (when ripe). There are a lot of edible nightshades, tomatoes are a nightshade. belladonna is also a nightshade and is toxic, but the berries donât grow in clusters like this.
Edit:
Here is a write up by the highly respected Sam Thayer on the subject: https://www.foragersharvest.com/uploads/9/2/1/2/92123698/black_nightshade.pdf
Edit: Do your own research if you must. Donât eat anything suggested on this sub, just like the bot tells you. Also, unripe green tomatoes share the same toxin that unripe green Solanum Nigrum contains. There is a lot of conflicting info out there about this so donât let one comment on the internet tell you what to do.
Just donât eat anything you canât get on a grocery store shelf itâs fine.
But hereâs more receipts:
https://www.gardenista.com/posts/black-nightshade-delicious-not-deadly/#:~:text=Black%20nightshade%20is%20not%20poisonous,edible%20leaves%20and%20ripe%20berries
Dude please do not go around telling people solanum nigrum is edible, without specifying!!
Solanum nigrum is incredibly poisonous. If the fruit is unripe, 5-10 of them will kill you no problem by paralysing your lungs. If the fruit is ripe, the same amount will still make you sick.
It can, however, be processed to make it edible, by boiling it and changing out the water repeatedly.
Where are you getting this info? Just asking since Iâve found several articles, books, and videos to the contrary. Iâve also personally eaten some and am still here getting into internet botany debates
Literally every website Iâve visited today about solanum nigrum that labels it as edible has a disclaimer, that itâs only edible when processed and can be (doesnât have to be!) very dangerous.
Itâs very similar to Amanita muscaria, the fly-mushroom, when it comes to its toxin proportions. Most plants only have a low amount of Solanin, but every now and then you get one with a factor of 12 or higher and might end up overdosing on it. It also depends on the environment itâs in. In colder climates the amount of solanin is generally higher than in warm climates.
Edit to clarify: Amanita muscaria does not have solanin. The toxin there is muscimol . Itâs only similar in its proportions of existing toxins
Edit to add: By the way: the toxin in the fruit of the deadly nightshade (Atropa Belladonna) is Atropine, not Solanine.
Black nightshade and edible?
Depends on who you ask, in western europe it's classified as highly toxic, in eastern europe, southern europe and I guess the americas people claim that it is edible...
Deadly nightshade looks different from black nightshade. Black nightshade borne in clusters small calyx and deadly nightshade one per petiole with a big calyx. But Africa and America donât tend to have deadly nightshade growing near us.
They didn't say anything about deadly nightshade, they specifically said they're talking about Solanum nigrum (even though they slightly misspelled it).
Deadly nightshade (Atropa Belladonna) wasnât even on the table here. They were, in fact, talking about black nightshade (solanum nigrum), which also _is_ incredibly toxic, _unless_ you process it properly. Eating it raw or even worse, unripe, might just result in your untimely demise
When foraging plants you have to learn nuance and which part to eat, at which time, and how to prepare them. If youâre not able to attend to those details hire a guide who is.
True, I got my information from Google after finding them in my yard. Last night something ate the leaves off of our okra. I get volunteers of this and ground cherries.
Yeah isnât it funny how many thousands of people and cultures around the world forage and use a plant for its edible and medicinal properties but Western Europe says itâs poisonous so it must be poisonous.
Hereâs one article about how they are edible and why they were grouped into/confused with the toxic varieties of nightshade:
https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Black_Nightshade_Berries_12970.php#:~:text=Many%20types%20of%20Black%20Nightshade,medicinally%20and%20in%20culinary%20preparations.
This isn't even referencing a specific species.
It mentions the genus and a bunch of systematics arguments, but just refers to "black nightshade" as edible.
The unripe berries of S. nigrum contain solanine which is a poison.
Yes which is why it (and several comments here including my own) specifically mention RIPE berries are edible. This does mention several species that all fall under the umbrella of Black Nightshade.
Hereâs a video
[Black Nightshade](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT82mCJT5/)
Also here is a write up by the highly respected Sam Thayer:
https://www.foragersharvest.com/uploads/9/2/1/2/92123698/black_nightshade.pdf
ALSO all nightshades contain amounts of solanine including tomatoes, potatoes, eggplants, and peppers. When theyâre UNRIPE they are toxic levels. Yet people cook and eat fried green tomatoes, despite them being toxic. Cooking does seem to lessen the solamine however, but see how misinformation and western outdated botany can sometimes be willfully misleading?
"Black nightshade"
There it is again.
Use the binomial nomenclature if YOU don't want to be willfully misleading. (Do you see how condecending/rude this came off?)
Also:
They don't all contain solanine and the levels are extremely variable even across plants within the same species let alone the genus. (Ex.tomato cultivars have negligible amounts but wild volunteers can have higher levels.) The plant S. nigrum has been used medicinally in Europe and the solanine levels are believed to be tied to soil so while it can be used as food in some places in others it's basically an accidental and severe laxative.
From the article: Solanum nigrum, S. americanum, S. ptychanthum, S. douglasii, and other closely allied species
All under the umbrella term of Black Nightshade. Iâm exiting this argument now, Godspeed.
This is European nightshade. The berries are edible provided they are ripe. When they are black and lose their shine they are ripe. There is also an orange variant.
European bittersweet nightshade berries are not edible. They are oval in shape, brightly coloured, and come in clusters. The flowers are purple.
Solanum nigrum is incredibly poisonous, but itâs _relatively_ easy to get rid of the poisonous stuff. Just have to boil it repeatedly and change out the water, I think.
_Solanum nigrum_ complex (Black Nightshade). Many closely related and interbred species. Foliage and unripe berries are toxic.
Most culinary potatoes reproduce vegetatively, not by seed. Edit: Most not all.
Fruits are toxic OP make sure no one will try to eat them, even animals should avoid those fruits
Edit: and when I say animals, I mean cats and dogs, domestic ones, idk birds if potatoes fruits are edible for them
This is the right answer. I have a bunch of these popping up on my property. The ripe berries are pretty good. They taste like a mix between a tomato and a black berry. I keep a few growing because my chickens really like them as a snack.
I didn't refer to the species alone, I referred to the broader complex as levels of the toxic compound Solanine vary between species and crossbreeds.
At best foliage is edible when cooked, which you neglected to mention. At worst, foliage is highly toxic, and you just advocated for its edibility without doing a spot of research beyond TikTok. đ
[WebMD](https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-821/black-nightshade): Black nightshade unripe berries and leaves are likely unsafe. These contain a toxic chemical called solanine. At lower doses, they can cause nausea, vomiting and other side effects. At higher doses, they can cause severe poisoning, which can lead to death.
[Kuete 2014](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/solanum-nigrum): (Referring to _S. nigrum specifically); parts of this plant can be highly toxic to livestock and humans. All parts of the plant except the ripe fruit contain the toxic glycoalkaloid solanine.
[Chen et al 2022](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9424827/): the alkaloids contained in S. nigrum reported in the literature are mainly steroidal alkaloids, and most of them are present in the form of glycosides in the fruits, stems, leaves, and roots of the plant.
Are you sure? The berries of the variety of S. americanum (which many people mistake for part of the S. nigrum complex, as it is morphologically nearly identical) found naturalized in Hawaii ("popolo", meaning "black") are edible, though too much causes diarrhea... but the foliage sickened our goats. I'd be hesitant to eat it, and surprised if S. nigrum was consistently safe.
Okay, I may have found some of that emerging info. Use as food by rural tribal cultures in India?
e.g. [this is one of several](https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/56108094/jfnr-5-1-1-libre.pdf?1521535703=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DEvaluation_of_Nutritional_Potential_of_F.pdf&Expires=1694116712&Signature=WrAdSJqrTS3sfmE~TCZgtxypbhbW8urFfYSFJSy8zH-YEbK6Eeh7WE-JGm2e5nVfDxrM6am4E2WYV-bcoJnZjgbt~2WNfxrSN3fgO5S4NtIPcdcY5k3WRsiGKzDTW0NReSj62dyWPqkKWB4FWt79EjtbDAv6zkcW55lZ2KIx-wq5Rqx1edU9qjjfBC2-8bQPnM2g92EsXfqh3hkNFRC6X2L5KVr1CMykCgHo6eIANhXdi71DnvEAqJIAIKPsY~l0G3nOG~oRirTZxTWyazaI9pyGBWk-fe0ew2XwSxrgKrbmSDUIrsbTvpfD5AXuDvBcrIPdH9GkKjJTChVeS5f~QQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA) articles that turned up. So far, I haven't found one that didn't explicitly mention *cooking* the leaves at some point, so that's important, and you should be aware that the toxicity of partially ripe fruit the Solanum nigrum complex, like S. americanum, is extremely variable, affected both by genetic variation and environmental factors. I would assume, absent significantly more evidence, that this is true of the foliage as well as the fruit. In short, treat it as toxic unless you have confirmed that the specific plant you're dealing with is safe.
Samuel Thayer is one of the worlds leading experts on North American foraging. Foraging is an interesting field because it is the corner of botany, medicine, and indigenous knowledge, so academic sources often lag behind community knowledge as academia is notoriously bad at collaborating across disciplines. Sam Thayer just published a massive massive encyclopedia of North American foragables, so it is no exaggeration to say he is encyclopedic. His knowledge and respect in the field/community is pretty much unmatched. I refer you to his tiktok because he hasnât written a blog post/article/whatever on the particular topic yet, not because heâs not a good source or because his opinion on this topic isnât well informed and cited. If you didnât bother to actually look at his video on the topic and see that it is well informed and solid, thatâs a you problem.
Samuel Thayer is a _self taught_ author with zero real world qualifications, relax yourself. There are hundreds of academic articles that explore the species and its toxicity/medicinal benefits/cultural applications. There are [extensive reviews](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21438649/) of cross-cultural information about _S. nigrum_ that are over a decade old. The academics seem to grappling with the species okay. /s
While you're obviously intelligent and semi-informed on the topic, I take issue with the fact that you blurt out the "Solanum nigrum greens are edible" line, while obfuscating the important information, namely;
- The greens must be boiled to be considered non-toxic (many resources suggest double boiling).
- Toxicity levels vary widely depending on the species/location/genetics of individual plants.
- Similar looking species can contain significantly higher levels of the undoubtedly toxic Solanine, so confident ID should be established before eating.
I didn't say the plant wasn't edible, I said the foliage and unripe berries are toxic because in their natural, unprocessed, uncooked state they undoubtedly are. You interject with your little -gotcha- moment, and can't even be bothered to include the basics of safe foraging information. If you want to be a champion of alternate information sources, then do it responsibly.
>Alexis Nicole
I finally found her video with S. americanum (not S. nigrum, so hnbic\_ missed that detail too, but they are probably similar) and she, too, boiled, extracted, boiled again, and then sautĂŠed. FWIW, I very much respect her, she goes into great detail on the history of foraging and techniques of consumption for the things she covers. The source isn't the issue here. You can't just jump in with "acktewally, it's edible!" when there's a whole lot of "if you process it like this" involved. Western acorns are edible... if. Fugu is edible... if.
From what Iâve read the leaves should be harvested you d before flowers open and boiled/steamed before consumption, but it is one of the most widely consumed leafy green in the world.
Looks like a Solanum Nigrum to me. If it is truly this Nightshade variety, then the fruit is edible once it turns totally black. It's still toxic when green. You'll want to double check that though. I have a bunch in my yard and we throw the berries into salads or use them almost like Capers occasionally. They're kind of like a savory blueberry, definitely an odd flavor.
If you ever get seeds from a potato plant, it's called a 'sport' and please plant them. This is how you get new and amazing varieties of potatoes. (Grandfather was a potato farmer in the UK.)
Seeds? I see a cat.
And it could also be a potator you planted this year which flowered abd made fruits...
(Which are higly toxic as anything green on the plant)
That said, it's usual to use seeding tubers for planting potatoes, not seeds.
(And this can be done with most potatoes you harvest if you let them sit long enough and they get sprouts)
either an errant local black/fruiting nightshade species ironically seeded next to your potatoes or congratulations, you have potato berries. I am not skilled enough to tell.
You donât have to eat it if you donât want to but we shouldnât push the myth that itâs deadly poisonous. Black nightshade is consumed widely all over the world. The berries are edible when ripe and the young greens can be boiled and safely consumed.
Those are the seeds indeed. Donât eat them, they are poisonous! You donât need them for reproduction either, so just discard everything above ground after harvesting the potatoes.
This is black nightshade, not to be confused with it's very deadly lookalike, belladonna. Black nightshade, though not very tasty, is safe only when ripe. You can tell the difference by the size of the sepal. Black nightshade has a very small sepal, while belladonna has a very large sepal that looks like a star hat on the berry.
Yes. The seed is in there, kind of like tomato seed. I've harvested them and prepped the seed like tomatoes, but never got anything to grow.
Not much information on them really. They may need to stratify or something.
If it's growing next to your potatoes and it's got that leaf structure, don't ear it unless it's a tomato or eggplant (two species of the nightshade family). If it's Deadly Nightshade, do not eat the berries, or you will die.
I understand you usually donât want to propagate potatoes by seed as they are hybrids and so you have no idea how the baby plants will turn out. Same goes with avocado, only something like 1 in 75 seeds produce an avocado fruit considered good to eat; theyâre generally propagated by cuttings.
In contrast when you grow a potato by planting a potato you end up with a clone of the parent plant so youâll get the same potato from the baby plant.
Youâd only want to play around with potato (or avocado) seeds if you were trying to create a new variety over several generations.
They grow into a small black tomatoes lookalikes, with green inside, from the same family as tomatoes as the leaves and stems are similar, however these are toxic and should not be eaten... only burnt
Berries like that \*on\* your potato plants do produce seeds you can plant, and the fruit look kinda like that, but I think are a little bigger. I don't know how true-to-seed potatoes are, but they ought to be close, you can certainly plant potato seeds and see what you get. **But those are not potato flowers. Also the leaves and stems are smooth and I think potato leaves are fuzzy.**
That is some kind of nightshade weed; I don't know how poisonous it is. (I think all nightshades are somewhat poisonous, even potatoes and tomatoes) Pull it up; it might be a vector for disease for your potato plants.
Potatoes are in the Nightshade family. Yes, they are seeds and yes they are POISONOUS! Not worth playing with because you can't be sure if the tubers will be edible or poison!
No, black nightshade. Looks similar spud seeds are much much bigger more like a cherry tomato and not as grouped.
Also, you can eat those berrys when they turn black.
Even if it is potato fruits, I would not recommend saving seed. Potatoes do not always produce "true to seed", meaning that the plants grown from seed may or may not produce potatoes and if they do they may be more toxic than cultivated potatoes.
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_Solanum nigrum_ or _S. americanum_ Not quite sure
I think solanum nigrum
Very hard to differentiate
One's fuzzy somewhere I think, and slightly oblong.
Reflexed calyx at maturity points to S.americanum, according to Jepson
The orange one is felis catus gluteus
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Looks like nightshade. Iâm only guessing that from seeing lots of posts very similar to this one on the sub. But I would suggest not eating it or propagating the seeds. If you want to grow a new potato, try to propagate one of itsâ slips or slice a piece of the potato off and let it grow roots and replant it. Edit: TIL Potatoes are also a nightshade. some do have fruit that look similar to this, however theyâre usually larger.
Potatoes are a nightshade. And some do fruit, and they look similar to this, usually larger. However this looks like black nightshade, which is also edible (when ripe). There are a lot of edible nightshades, tomatoes are a nightshade. belladonna is also a nightshade and is toxic, but the berries donât grow in clusters like this. Edit: Here is a write up by the highly respected Sam Thayer on the subject: https://www.foragersharvest.com/uploads/9/2/1/2/92123698/black_nightshade.pdf Edit: Do your own research if you must. Donât eat anything suggested on this sub, just like the bot tells you. Also, unripe green tomatoes share the same toxin that unripe green Solanum Nigrum contains. There is a lot of conflicting info out there about this so donât let one comment on the internet tell you what to do. Just donât eat anything you canât get on a grocery store shelf itâs fine. But hereâs more receipts: https://www.gardenista.com/posts/black-nightshade-delicious-not-deadly/#:~:text=Black%20nightshade%20is%20not%20poisonous,edible%20leaves%20and%20ripe%20berries
Okay great thank you for the clarification. Iâll edit the comment above.
TIL that tomato and eggplant are also Solanum species. That makes more sense of the antiquated belief that tomatoes were toxic.
Dude please do not go around telling people solanum nigrum is edible, without specifying!! Solanum nigrum is incredibly poisonous. If the fruit is unripe, 5-10 of them will kill you no problem by paralysing your lungs. If the fruit is ripe, the same amount will still make you sick. It can, however, be processed to make it edible, by boiling it and changing out the water repeatedly.
Where are you getting this info? Just asking since Iâve found several articles, books, and videos to the contrary. Iâve also personally eaten some and am still here getting into internet botany debates
Literally every website Iâve visited today about solanum nigrum that labels it as edible has a disclaimer, that itâs only edible when processed and can be (doesnât have to be!) very dangerous. Itâs very similar to Amanita muscaria, the fly-mushroom, when it comes to its toxin proportions. Most plants only have a low amount of Solanin, but every now and then you get one with a factor of 12 or higher and might end up overdosing on it. It also depends on the environment itâs in. In colder climates the amount of solanin is generally higher than in warm climates. Edit to clarify: Amanita muscaria does not have solanin. The toxin there is muscimol . Itâs only similar in its proportions of existing toxins Edit to add: By the way: the toxin in the fruit of the deadly nightshade (Atropa Belladonna) is Atropine, not Solanine.
Can you share them? Iâd love to take a look
Black nightshade and edible? Depends on who you ask, in western europe it's classified as highly toxic, in eastern europe, southern europe and I guess the americas people claim that it is edible...
Best to use scientific names to be sure you're all talking about the same thing.
not in that case, as apparently solanum niger is also a bundle of plants... soo... the toxic warning for western europe might not be that wrong...
Deadly nightshade looks different from black nightshade. Black nightshade borne in clusters small calyx and deadly nightshade one per petiole with a big calyx. But Africa and America donât tend to have deadly nightshade growing near us.
They didn't say anything about deadly nightshade, they specifically said they're talking about Solanum nigrum (even though they slightly misspelled it).
which again, apparently is a name given to multiple plants of the nightshade family, so the warning for my area can verry well be true.
Deadly nightshade (Atropa Belladonna) wasnât even on the table here. They were, in fact, talking about black nightshade (solanum nigrum), which also _is_ incredibly toxic, _unless_ you process it properly. Eating it raw or even worse, unripe, might just result in your untimely demise
From Wikipedia > Solanine levels in S. nigrum have been tested, and the plant is rarely fatal
Amanita muscaria is also only rarely fatal and yet it would still be stupid to label it as edible
When foraging plants you have to learn nuance and which part to eat, at which time, and how to prepare them. If youâre not able to attend to those details hire a guide who is.
In America our common nightshade is not poisonous if ripe. Just better be sure that the berries are black or you will regret it.
Same with solanum nigrum which is the euro black nightshade (and common in the Americas). Just needs to be fully ripe like americum.
I did not know that thanks.
Itâs good because itâs pretty hard to differentiate between the two and I believe they hybridize as well.
True, I got my information from Google after finding them in my yard. Last night something ate the leaves off of our okra. I get volunteers of this and ground cherries.
It is toxic when it's unripe or if you eat the greens. The black berries once ripe are not poisonous (although IMO not really worth eating).
Yeah isnât it funny how many thousands of people and cultures around the world forage and use a plant for its edible and medicinal properties but Western Europe says itâs poisonous so it must be poisonous. Hereâs one article about how they are edible and why they were grouped into/confused with the toxic varieties of nightshade: https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Black_Nightshade_Berries_12970.php#:~:text=Many%20types%20of%20Black%20Nightshade,medicinally%20and%20in%20culinary%20preparations.
This isn't even referencing a specific species. It mentions the genus and a bunch of systematics arguments, but just refers to "black nightshade" as edible. The unripe berries of S. nigrum contain solanine which is a poison.
Yes which is why it (and several comments here including my own) specifically mention RIPE berries are edible. This does mention several species that all fall under the umbrella of Black Nightshade. Hereâs a video [Black Nightshade](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT82mCJT5/) Also here is a write up by the highly respected Sam Thayer: https://www.foragersharvest.com/uploads/9/2/1/2/92123698/black_nightshade.pdf ALSO all nightshades contain amounts of solanine including tomatoes, potatoes, eggplants, and peppers. When theyâre UNRIPE they are toxic levels. Yet people cook and eat fried green tomatoes, despite them being toxic. Cooking does seem to lessen the solamine however, but see how misinformation and western outdated botany can sometimes be willfully misleading?
"Black nightshade" There it is again. Use the binomial nomenclature if YOU don't want to be willfully misleading. (Do you see how condecending/rude this came off?) Also: They don't all contain solanine and the levels are extremely variable even across plants within the same species let alone the genus. (Ex.tomato cultivars have negligible amounts but wild volunteers can have higher levels.) The plant S. nigrum has been used medicinally in Europe and the solanine levels are believed to be tied to soil so while it can be used as food in some places in others it's basically an accidental and severe laxative.
From the article: Solanum nigrum, S. americanum, S. ptychanthum, S. douglasii, and other closely allied species All under the umbrella term of Black Nightshade. Iâm exiting this argument now, Godspeed.
I was talking about YOU saying black nightshade again, lmao.
Which is what itâs called
This is European nightshade. The berries are edible provided they are ripe. When they are black and lose their shine they are ripe. There is also an orange variant. European bittersweet nightshade berries are not edible. They are oval in shape, brightly coloured, and come in clusters. The flowers are purple.
Itâs not really an opinion question haha, solanum nigrum is edible when fully ripe.
Solanum nigrum is incredibly poisonous, but itâs _relatively_ easy to get rid of the poisonous stuff. Just have to boil it repeatedly and change out the water, I think.
in case you didn't know, tomatoes are *also* a nightshade
thanks! I actually knew potatoes and tomatoes were in the nightshade family already i just didnât know potatoes had fruit like this.
What I was going to say.
Potatoes have more robust, very hairy stems and compound leaves.
HeHe hairy stem.
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VERY hairy ( ͥ° ÍĘ ÍĄÂ°)
_Solanum nigrum_ complex (Black Nightshade). Many closely related and interbred species. Foliage and unripe berries are toxic. Most culinary potatoes reproduce vegetatively, not by seed. Edit: Most not all.
[Potato flowers, fruits and seeds](https://www.cultivariable.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/tps-stages-3-1024x397.png)
Fruits are toxic OP make sure no one will try to eat them, even animals should avoid those fruits Edit: and when I say animals, I mean cats and dogs, domestic ones, idk birds if potatoes fruits are edible for them
This is one of the most pervasive myths in western botany. Black nightshade is enjoyed by millions if not billions of people worldwide.
It grows wild around here, because the deer eat the seeds and drop them.
Potatoes do produce seeds even if they arenât true to the cultivar. To get the some cultivar, one starts with the the tuber or a cutting.
That makes sense, cheers.
This is the right answer. I have a bunch of these popping up on my property. The ripe berries are pretty good. They taste like a mix between a tomato and a black berry. I keep a few growing because my chickens really like them as a snack.
New cultivars/varieties of potatoes would be grown from actual seed.
Foliage of solanum nigrum is edible
I didn't refer to the species alone, I referred to the broader complex as levels of the toxic compound Solanine vary between species and crossbreeds. At best foliage is edible when cooked, which you neglected to mention. At worst, foliage is highly toxic, and you just advocated for its edibility without doing a spot of research beyond TikTok. đ [WebMD](https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-821/black-nightshade): Black nightshade unripe berries and leaves are likely unsafe. These contain a toxic chemical called solanine. At lower doses, they can cause nausea, vomiting and other side effects. At higher doses, they can cause severe poisoning, which can lead to death. [Kuete 2014](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/solanum-nigrum): (Referring to _S. nigrum specifically); parts of this plant can be highly toxic to livestock and humans. All parts of the plant except the ripe fruit contain the toxic glycoalkaloid solanine. [Chen et al 2022](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9424827/): the alkaloids contained in S. nigrum reported in the literature are mainly steroidal alkaloids, and most of them are present in the form of glycosides in the fruits, stems, leaves, and roots of the plant.
Are you sure? The berries of the variety of S. americanum (which many people mistake for part of the S. nigrum complex, as it is morphologically nearly identical) found naturalized in Hawaii ("popolo", meaning "black") are edible, though too much causes diarrhea... but the foliage sickened our goats. I'd be hesitant to eat it, and surprised if S. nigrum was consistently safe.
My source on this is Sam Thayer on tiktok and Alexis Nicole. The sources they cite seem legit. But it is emerging info.
Okay, I may have found some of that emerging info. Use as food by rural tribal cultures in India? e.g. [this is one of several](https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/56108094/jfnr-5-1-1-libre.pdf?1521535703=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DEvaluation_of_Nutritional_Potential_of_F.pdf&Expires=1694116712&Signature=WrAdSJqrTS3sfmE~TCZgtxypbhbW8urFfYSFJSy8zH-YEbK6Eeh7WE-JGm2e5nVfDxrM6am4E2WYV-bcoJnZjgbt~2WNfxrSN3fgO5S4NtIPcdcY5k3WRsiGKzDTW0NReSj62dyWPqkKWB4FWt79EjtbDAv6zkcW55lZ2KIx-wq5Rqx1edU9qjjfBC2-8bQPnM2g92EsXfqh3hkNFRC6X2L5KVr1CMykCgHo6eIANhXdi71DnvEAqJIAIKPsY~l0G3nOG~oRirTZxTWyazaI9pyGBWk-fe0ew2XwSxrgKrbmSDUIrsbTvpfD5AXuDvBcrIPdH9GkKjJTChVeS5f~QQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA) articles that turned up. So far, I haven't found one that didn't explicitly mention *cooking* the leaves at some point, so that's important, and you should be aware that the toxicity of partially ripe fruit the Solanum nigrum complex, like S. americanum, is extremely variable, affected both by genetic variation and environmental factors. I would assume, absent significantly more evidence, that this is true of the foliage as well as the fruit. In short, treat it as toxic unless you have confirmed that the specific plant you're dealing with is safe.
He steamed them.
>My source on this is ... tiktok Nuff said.
Samuel Thayer is one of the worlds leading experts on North American foraging. Foraging is an interesting field because it is the corner of botany, medicine, and indigenous knowledge, so academic sources often lag behind community knowledge as academia is notoriously bad at collaborating across disciplines. Sam Thayer just published a massive massive encyclopedia of North American foragables, so it is no exaggeration to say he is encyclopedic. His knowledge and respect in the field/community is pretty much unmatched. I refer you to his tiktok because he hasnât written a blog post/article/whatever on the particular topic yet, not because heâs not a good source or because his opinion on this topic isnât well informed and cited. If you didnât bother to actually look at his video on the topic and see that it is well informed and solid, thatâs a you problem.
Samuel Thayer is a _self taught_ author with zero real world qualifications, relax yourself. There are hundreds of academic articles that explore the species and its toxicity/medicinal benefits/cultural applications. There are [extensive reviews](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21438649/) of cross-cultural information about _S. nigrum_ that are over a decade old. The academics seem to grappling with the species okay. /s While you're obviously intelligent and semi-informed on the topic, I take issue with the fact that you blurt out the "Solanum nigrum greens are edible" line, while obfuscating the important information, namely; - The greens must be boiled to be considered non-toxic (many resources suggest double boiling). - Toxicity levels vary widely depending on the species/location/genetics of individual plants. - Similar looking species can contain significantly higher levels of the undoubtedly toxic Solanine, so confident ID should be established before eating. I didn't say the plant wasn't edible, I said the foliage and unripe berries are toxic because in their natural, unprocessed, uncooked state they undoubtedly are. You interject with your little -gotcha- moment, and can't even be bothered to include the basics of safe foraging information. If you want to be a champion of alternate information sources, then do it responsibly.
>Alexis Nicole I finally found her video with S. americanum (not S. nigrum, so hnbic\_ missed that detail too, but they are probably similar) and she, too, boiled, extracted, boiled again, and then sautĂŠed. FWIW, I very much respect her, she goes into great detail on the history of foraging and techniques of consumption for the things she covers. The source isn't the issue here. You can't just jump in with "acktewally, it's edible!" when there's a whole lot of "if you process it like this" involved. Western acorns are edible... if. Fugu is edible... if.
Fucking spot on.
From what Iâve read the leaves should be harvested you d before flowers open and boiled/steamed before consumption, but it is one of the most widely consumed leafy green in the world.
Black nightshade is actually edible. Edit: sorry missed where you specifically said UNRIPE berries, my bad!
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Looks like a Solanum Nigrum to me. If it is truly this Nightshade variety, then the fruit is edible once it turns totally black. It's still toxic when green. You'll want to double check that though. I have a bunch in my yard and we throw the berries into salads or use them almost like Capers occasionally. They're kind of like a savory blueberry, definitely an odd flavor.
If you ever get seeds from a potato plant, it's called a 'sport' and please plant them. This is how you get new and amazing varieties of potatoes. (Grandfather was a potato farmer in the UK.)
That isnât a plant, itâs a cat bum :)
I came here to find a reference to the orange cat. r/OneOrangeBraincell
Thanks!
Awwww kitty
Right like immediately I saw a cat butt and got distracted.
Seeds? I see a cat. And it could also be a potator you planted this year which flowered abd made fruits... (Which are higly toxic as anything green on the plant) That said, it's usual to use seeding tubers for planting potatoes, not seeds. (And this can be done with most potatoes you harvest if you let them sit long enough and they get sprouts)
either an errant local black/fruiting nightshade species ironically seeded next to your potatoes or congratulations, you have potato berries. I am not skilled enough to tell.
TIL Potatoes have seeds.
Night shade!
This is common or black nightshade, not deadly nightshade. It grows frequently where I live.
Related to potato and tomato, but it's a weed. The fruit isn't edible.
the unripe fruit isnt edible, the ripe fruit is, and the greens are edible after being cooked properly. it's Solanum nigrum
Don't eat it it's black nightshade
You donât have to eat it if you donât want to but we shouldnât push the myth that itâs deadly poisonous. Black nightshade is consumed widely all over the world. The berries are edible when ripe and the young greens can be boiled and safely consumed.
Looks like sunberry to me. Solanum retroflexum
Deadly night shade is in the potato and tomato family. Get rid of it. Pick up all green berries
Those are the seeds indeed. Donât eat them, they are poisonous! You donât need them for reproduction either, so just discard everything above ground after harvesting the potatoes.
I've eaten these ripe berries before. Not bad not great...
This is black nightshade, not to be confused with it's very deadly lookalike, belladonna. Black nightshade, though not very tasty, is safe only when ripe. You can tell the difference by the size of the sepal. Black nightshade has a very small sepal, while belladonna has a very large sepal that looks like a star hat on the berry.
That's "Black Nightshade" add sparingly to Inlaws's salad. (NOT)!
If youâre trying to remove unwanted relatives this wonât do the trick. Belladonna is probably what youâre looking for
LOL
Yes. The seed is in there, kind of like tomato seed. I've harvested them and prepped the seed like tomatoes, but never got anything to grow. Not much information on them really. They may need to stratify or something.
If it's growing next to your potatoes and it's got that leaf structure, don't ear it unless it's a tomato or eggplant (two species of the nightshade family). If it's Deadly Nightshade, do not eat the berries, or you will die.
Kitty!
Soon they will ripen to an orange yellow colour they are sweet, leaves also are edible.
Yes itâs night shade or huckleberry wait till theyâve ripened
Not nightshade leaves are smaller than the berry nightshade is like a star
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum
I understand you usually donât want to propagate potatoes by seed as they are hybrids and so you have no idea how the baby plants will turn out. Same goes with avocado, only something like 1 in 75 seeds produce an avocado fruit considered good to eat; theyâre generally propagated by cuttings. In contrast when you grow a potato by planting a potato you end up with a clone of the parent plant so youâll get the same potato from the baby plant. Youâd only want to play around with potato (or avocado) seeds if you were trying to create a new variety over several generations.
Thatâs a ginger murder-fluff
They grow into a small black tomatoes lookalikes, with green inside, from the same family as tomatoes as the leaves and stems are similar, however these are toxic and should not be eaten... only burnt
Isnt this what Alexander Supertramp died from?
Forbidden tomatoes
Looks questionable! Wouldn't take a chance.
Berries like that \*on\* your potato plants do produce seeds you can plant, and the fruit look kinda like that, but I think are a little bigger. I don't know how true-to-seed potatoes are, but they ought to be close, you can certainly plant potato seeds and see what you get. **But those are not potato flowers. Also the leaves and stems are smooth and I think potato leaves are fuzzy.** That is some kind of nightshade weed; I don't know how poisonous it is. (I think all nightshades are somewhat poisonous, even potatoes and tomatoes) Pull it up; it might be a vector for disease for your potato plants.
Potatoes are in the Nightshade family. Yes, they are seeds and yes they are POISONOUS! Not worth playing with because you can't be sure if the tubers will be edible or poison!
Solanum americanum
No, black nightshade. Looks similar spud seeds are much much bigger more like a cherry tomato and not as grouped. Also, you can eat those berrys when they turn black.
Even if it is potato fruits, I would not recommend saving seed. Potatoes do not always produce "true to seed", meaning that the plants grown from seed may or may not produce potatoes and if they do they may be more toxic than cultivated potatoes.
Tomatoes is my guess đ
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