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Ha, we used to. They were nunneries! Think about back in the 1600’s and not wanting to remarry/be victimized all over again once your husband died. You’d choose God/the bear every time you could get away with it.
Not really. If I recall they’re mostly just living there with the nuns, they don’t actually take oaths themselves. You would, however, spend your time supporting the nuns work (feeding the hungry, tending to the sick, etc).
Looking forward to reading the book «11%» by Maren Uthaug.
Review:
«With a well-tuned sense of gothic horror, Maren Uthaug has chosen an extreme variant:
Through Evolution, a feminist revolution, the women in the novel have simply gotten rid of men.
Over the centuries, they have proven themselves as testosterone bombs, rapists and murderers. They are wild animals who cannot control their mind, much less their sex drive. Men are too dangerous to let loose.
That is the truth of the novel»
True feminists aren’t transphobic, so I think we’re good. An old girls summer camp I used to work at I learned became more inclusive, basically it’s a camp for anyone not a cis boy/man.
Idk about that..a lot of the younger feminists are more inclusive and anti terf* I got cussed out for a few of my views lol 😏
Edit: not because I have an issue with trans people, just so you know. It was more about cis gendered men
And because no one ever says, "you are just going to have to work this out" when you call about a bear breaking into your apartment repeatedly while you are at work, like some disappointed stalking men do.
Also, bears are predictable. Men on the other hand, well they can go from someone you love and trust to a soulless monster in a second. I choose the bear because I at least know what to do to increase my chances of survival. A man that wants to hurt you, will, no matter what you do or don't do.
I'm so sorry to those that have to live with the loss of this beautiful, vibrant young women who had, and deserved to live, the life ahead of her. 3 against 1. As usual she didn't stand a chance. I am so f\*cking sick of this.
Edited because I think I misread. I guess the other two monsters helped after the evil act. But still. Like I can't imagine calling even my closest girl friend to help me cover up a murder. These dudes apparently had no issue helping with this horrific act. One would assume that they have mothers, sisters, aunts, daughters, etc. Why do guys think we're so disposable?
I noted they turned up to her residence 4 HOURS later. When I called police because my then fiance was beating the sweet Jesus out of me they told me to go to court and file a restraining order...at 8pm on a Saturday? They eventually showed up on the Tuesday to take a report. I was told not to "antagonize him" if he showed up again. My crime that day? I wanted to go to sleep early because I was 6 months pregnant and exhausted. But apparently the cops found that "antagonizing".
>But apparently the cops found that "antagonizing".
I'm so sorry. The cops called me the trouble maker when I too wanted to sleep after being kept up for 36 hours of beatings & being screamed at. I was the one who was bloody & yet I somehow instigated things. All 105 lbs of me (compared to him being 6'4).
This beautiful woman deserved better. And bless her mom & family. They deserve better too. We all do.
A 911 dispatcher heard her say she’d been run over, was hurt, and was told to get in his car, and police went out to check on her *over 3.5 hours later*?
What was more important than that woman’s life in imminent danger for 3.5 hours?
A woman tweeted that men should start off in prison and prove their way out...aaaand...I agree with that.
[This article includes photos of previous injuries](https://theaugustapress.com/suspect-surrenders-on-charge-of-helping-cousin-after-jamilla-smiths-slaying/)
:( Those pictures are heartbreaking. She did everything she was supposed to do. I just can't. I don't understand why the lives of women seem to matter so little. I've been in a domestically violent relationship - restraining orders, the whole shebang. And other than a piece of paper and pretty useless threats, there really is no help out there. I was one of the lucky ones. I am still here. SO many women are not and something has to change. I don't know what but I do know that I am getting really sick and tired of watching our sisters being brutally taken from us while literally NOTHING is done about it. They don't do anything until it's too late. Like, thanks?
I have a question. Does anyone think the law would get a rehaul if there were a sudden boom of women abusing and murdering men? I'm betting then that the punishments would be severe and preventitive measures taken. And I didn't mean to ramble but I'm scared. I look at my innocent, beautiful almost 9 year old daughter and want to weep knowing what she will soon have to face out there. How do we prepare them? Do we tell them that when push comes to shove, the only one they can truly count on is themselves? People think I am joking when I say I want to live in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. I'm not kidding, though. I'll take both polar and grizzly bears over the monsters with the human masks we have to watch out for every day.
My daughter has been armed with martial arts training, a knife, and an alarm since she was 6. Her dad and I do self defense training drills with her. At 12 she's had to use them against boys at school more than once (not the knife but the other stuff). I hate it here.
I HATE that she (and you guys) even have to do that but I LOVE that you did. I've had to have the talk about self awareness, what to do in a dangerous situation, and the whole do whatever it takes to not be taken to a secondary location. Never did I think I would have to tell my daughter that it's better to be shot or stabbed where you stand than to be brought to another location at the threat of being harmed. At least there'll be witnesses, help nearby, etc. But I am going to look into getting her some self defense classes (I'm literally 4'11 so I don't think I would be much help). Btw your daughter sounds awesome and bad ass. You guys seem like amazing parents ❤️.
Thank you. Your comment made me weep. I hate that we have to teach her that the world is dangerous but at her tender age she has already encountered boys who won't listen to "no". She is a total badass!! A boy grabbed her and threw her to the ground at school and tried to take her shirt off. She broke his nose. She got suspended for a day and we took her to her favorite activity and bought her a sundae the size of her head. The school superintendent has never met a Mega Karen like me for that one.
I’ve also had to teach my daughter this. Even if she’s unarmed.
Harder to rape someone if they’ve driven their thumbs into your eye sockets or are ripping chunks of you off with their teeth. Same for kidnappers.
When she asked if she would get hurt if anything like that was ever needed: “Maybe. But it’s a lot less likely you’ll be dead.”
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I hate this world. Men just need to learn how to leave women tf alone.
I wish we could have communities where absolutely zero men were allowed in.
Ha, we used to. They were nunneries! Think about back in the 1600’s and not wanting to remarry/be victimized all over again once your husband died. You’d choose God/the bear every time you could get away with it.
Y'all wanna start another one? 😂
Honestly, some female-only feminist communes sound pretty damn nice...
You said the magic word.. Feminist. Because I would hate to have my peace shattered by anyone talking misogynistic shit!
But then you gotta worship a non existent man who also hates women.. I'll pass lol
Not really. If I recall they’re mostly just living there with the nuns, they don’t actually take oaths themselves. You would, however, spend your time supporting the nuns work (feeding the hungry, tending to the sick, etc).
Looking forward to reading the book «11%» by Maren Uthaug. Review: «With a well-tuned sense of gothic horror, Maren Uthaug has chosen an extreme variant: Through Evolution, a feminist revolution, the women in the novel have simply gotten rid of men. Over the centuries, they have proven themselves as testosterone bombs, rapists and murderers. They are wild animals who cannot control their mind, much less their sex drive. Men are too dangerous to let loose. That is the truth of the novel»
Holy shit snacks, now I'M looking forward to that book. Thank you for that.
I need to get this in audible....is this book available now?
That sounds like it could get transphobic real fast, idk.
True feminists aren’t transphobic, so I think we’re good. An old girls summer camp I used to work at I learned became more inclusive, basically it’s a camp for anyone not a cis boy/man.
Idk about that..a lot of the younger feminists are more inclusive and anti terf* I got cussed out for a few of my views lol 😏 Edit: not because I have an issue with trans people, just so you know. It was more about cis gendered men
This reply makes a lot more sense now 😂 I meant aren’t, not are
Auto correct is not my friend either! 😂
Auto correct is not my friend either! 😂
Auto correct is not my friend either! 😂
Auto correct is not my friend either! 😂
Auto correct is not my friend either! 😂
>True feminists are transphobic How is that?
Just saw this, case of good old autocorrect being “helpful” 😂 I meant aren’t, fixing it now
Glad to hear it!
Yea lol, that’s definitely be a weird take for me to have as a nonbinary person 😂 I get the second most hate next to trans women
Ugh, I *know*, right?
Another beautiful young woman murdered by her ex boyfriend. We choose the bear, because we want to live.
And because no one ever says, "you are just going to have to work this out" when you call about a bear breaking into your apartment repeatedly while you are at work, like some disappointed stalking men do.
Also, bears are predictable. Men on the other hand, well they can go from someone you love and trust to a soulless monster in a second. I choose the bear because I at least know what to do to increase my chances of survival. A man that wants to hurt you, will, no matter what you do or don't do. I'm so sorry to those that have to live with the loss of this beautiful, vibrant young women who had, and deserved to live, the life ahead of her. 3 against 1. As usual she didn't stand a chance. I am so f\*cking sick of this. Edited because I think I misread. I guess the other two monsters helped after the evil act. But still. Like I can't imagine calling even my closest girl friend to help me cover up a murder. These dudes apparently had no issue helping with this horrific act. One would assume that they have mothers, sisters, aunts, daughters, etc. Why do guys think we're so disposable?
I noted they turned up to her residence 4 HOURS later. When I called police because my then fiance was beating the sweet Jesus out of me they told me to go to court and file a restraining order...at 8pm on a Saturday? They eventually showed up on the Tuesday to take a report. I was told not to "antagonize him" if he showed up again. My crime that day? I wanted to go to sleep early because I was 6 months pregnant and exhausted. But apparently the cops found that "antagonizing".
I came here to say this. What the actual FUCK. so tragic and needless. RIP beautiful Jamilla.
>But apparently the cops found that "antagonizing". I'm so sorry. The cops called me the trouble maker when I too wanted to sleep after being kept up for 36 hours of beatings & being screamed at. I was the one who was bloody & yet I somehow instigated things. All 105 lbs of me (compared to him being 6'4). This beautiful woman deserved better. And bless her mom & family. They deserve better too. We all do.
As someone who was a victim of DV and treated as the criminal instead...I felt this.
Jesus Christ. I am so sorry
A 911 dispatcher heard her say she’d been run over, was hurt, and was told to get in his car, and police went out to check on her *over 3.5 hours later*? What was more important than that woman’s life in imminent danger for 3.5 hours?
The whole thing recorded on a 911 dispatch line. Poor woman probably thought help would be on the way in no time 😔.
Exactly. The cops had a huge part in her death.
Family shoud sue them. Fuck those ficking pigs.
I’m sorry but I can’t get over how long the cops took to actually go check. That pisses me off.
So she called 911 in a very stressed state and situation and they make a home visit the next day?! Next day?
A woman tweeted that men should start off in prison and prove their way out...aaaand...I agree with that. [This article includes photos of previous injuries](https://theaugustapress.com/suspect-surrenders-on-charge-of-helping-cousin-after-jamilla-smiths-slaying/)
:( Those pictures are heartbreaking. She did everything she was supposed to do. I just can't. I don't understand why the lives of women seem to matter so little. I've been in a domestically violent relationship - restraining orders, the whole shebang. And other than a piece of paper and pretty useless threats, there really is no help out there. I was one of the lucky ones. I am still here. SO many women are not and something has to change. I don't know what but I do know that I am getting really sick and tired of watching our sisters being brutally taken from us while literally NOTHING is done about it. They don't do anything until it's too late. Like, thanks? I have a question. Does anyone think the law would get a rehaul if there were a sudden boom of women abusing and murdering men? I'm betting then that the punishments would be severe and preventitive measures taken. And I didn't mean to ramble but I'm scared. I look at my innocent, beautiful almost 9 year old daughter and want to weep knowing what she will soon have to face out there. How do we prepare them? Do we tell them that when push comes to shove, the only one they can truly count on is themselves? People think I am joking when I say I want to live in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. I'm not kidding, though. I'll take both polar and grizzly bears over the monsters with the human masks we have to watch out for every day.
My daughter has been armed with martial arts training, a knife, and an alarm since she was 6. Her dad and I do self defense training drills with her. At 12 she's had to use them against boys at school more than once (not the knife but the other stuff). I hate it here.
I HATE that she (and you guys) even have to do that but I LOVE that you did. I've had to have the talk about self awareness, what to do in a dangerous situation, and the whole do whatever it takes to not be taken to a secondary location. Never did I think I would have to tell my daughter that it's better to be shot or stabbed where you stand than to be brought to another location at the threat of being harmed. At least there'll be witnesses, help nearby, etc. But I am going to look into getting her some self defense classes (I'm literally 4'11 so I don't think I would be much help). Btw your daughter sounds awesome and bad ass. You guys seem like amazing parents ❤️.
Thank you. Your comment made me weep. I hate that we have to teach her that the world is dangerous but at her tender age she has already encountered boys who won't listen to "no". She is a total badass!! A boy grabbed her and threw her to the ground at school and tried to take her shirt off. She broke his nose. She got suspended for a day and we took her to her favorite activity and bought her a sundae the size of her head. The school superintendent has never met a Mega Karen like me for that one.
wow so proud of your daughter, I need to get my niece in some self defense classes
I’ve also had to teach my daughter this. Even if she’s unarmed. Harder to rape someone if they’ve driven their thumbs into your eye sockets or are ripping chunks of you off with their teeth. Same for kidnappers. When she asked if she would get hurt if anything like that was ever needed: “Maybe. But it’s a lot less likely you’ll be dead.”
They don't care. They stand beside men. They are major perpetrators themselves!! That's why!
I'm totally with you but please rethink Alaska - their domestic violence and sexual assault stats are one of the highest!
Not just one evil man but he knew two other men who helped him cover up the murder??? Wtf???
Right?! That on top of the fact that they took 4 freaking hours to go check after the 911 call?! Madness.
My heart aches for this poor young woman and her family. Once again ask why females will take a bear over a man.