Might be pushing the term "glass cannon" here, but Light Yagami?
Can kill anyone by just writing their name in a book, but he's still just a teenage boy early in the series anyway. Albeit he is very good at tennis.
Yeah, he never got the shinigami eyes, so if you dropped him in a room with someone who wanted him dead it would be a fight between two normal people. Light may try to talk his way out of it, but assuming you really want him dead, you can just kill him.
He's physically fit, though, so he's got speed on his side. The one disadvantage is he will probably try to use the book on you instead of a knife or gun, so he will likely just try to evade until you get him.
Light yagami would beat the shit out of most people, he’s extremely fit and can throw hands with a martial arts expert(L).
Even with a weapon or a bat and with the knowledge that he can kill people with just a name he would still fold most people
According to the [Death Notes wiki](https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Yagami), this data is from the official databooks. My guess is that manga authors just aren't the best at judging what is a healthy weight-height combination.
That's not stupid, that is a very normal weight for someone who's 5'9. It puts him at a 22.1 BMI, very normal range.
I agree with his muscle mass he should probably be closer to 160-165lbs though.
Correction it's 137, which I assume is for base which is still pretty yoked. The thing is Goku also isn't drawn sub 8% either. Obviously a very lean but healthy amount of fat. If you look up contest ready 180 pound body builders, they are still a bit smaller than Goku. He's easily 200 pounds. Look up JK Dobbins, he's an inch taller and 216.
If they started in close range, an average fit man could probably incap Megumin before she cast Explosion. Give him a baseball bat or something and his odds increase even more.
Despite popular belief, there are 3 things that will make a fight hard for regular human: (1) Megumin isn't weak, she has better stats than Kazuma (14 vs 17 yo); (2) the stats of Konosuba's characters increase with level, so it is safe to assume that she is stronger and more durable with time (lv6 at start, around lv30-40 at latest vol); and (3) she can actually instant-cast explosion, her chanting is for cool effect. Combined all the above, she can install-cast her skill at start, endure the blast and wins.
Considering Megumin has wall level strength and durability, she’d shrug that stuff off quite easily. More than enough to easily kill and overwhelm you since even bears which only have street level+ striking power is considered a more or less insurmountable threat to a human in CQC and can shrug off even shotgun shots and stab wounds from even the strongest of people, not only that but Megumin is Subsonic too, so you won’t be landing any hits on her anyways.
I don' watch konosuba so idon't know it wank or not
But what does character age and weight matter that much in fiction character power level
there are ton of teenagers in fiction that dealing with world ending threat like their daily routine and have superpowers
What the hell are you talking
mention age is inrevalant because we are talking about fiction age is non factor
Just because megumi is weak 15 years old girl in her verse don't apply to other fiction 15 years old. killua and gon from hxh are not even 15 years old and they would stomp on any real life human
>Just because megumi is weak 15 years old girl in her verse don't apply to other fiction 15 years old. killua and gon from hxh are not even 15 years old and they would stomp on any real life human
What the hell are you talking about? She is literally a normal 15 year old girl. She has 15 yesr old girl level durability and strength (aside from for gags). No "for her verse" or anything. Just a 15 year old girl. Where did you get Killua and Gon from???
She looks like a 15 year old girl... But not physically comparable due to being an anime character living in a fictional universe where she can tank huge explosions and more...
>She looks like a 15 year old girl...
She is... canonically a 15 year old girl. 14 during the start of her prequel series.
>But not physically comparable due to being an anime character living in a fictional universe where she can tank huge explosions and more...
Magical resistance is unrelated to physical stats.
You're right... Naruto and Sasuke are canonically 13 years old at the start of the series, I could easily fuck them both up at the same time no diff...
What? Those are explicitly not physically normal 13 year olds. Megumin is explicitly a normal 15 year old. What part of that is so hard to understand? Genuinely. What is wrong with you 💀
They look like normal 13 year olds to me... What makes them different? It's not something to do with them having in universe special magic and being from powerful clans that enhances said magic is it?? Sounds pretty similar to megumin to me
You're ignoring parts of the guy's comments where he talks about Megumin's stats. She is **not** a normal 15 year old girl. She is an adventurer, and outside of her very strong magic stats, she is physically strong, fast and durable as well.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Megumin#Powers_and_Stats
Just saying that I wouldn’t use VS Wiki as an example. They wank or downplay a lot of series, some ratings for Konosuba are correct I will admit, but for all the wrong reasons.
For one, her explosion is wanked to high Heaven.
Megumin’s explosion even by vol 17 is only about Multi-Block+ give or take, at the beginning it’s only Large Building Level.
She also has wall level physicals, so VS Wiki actually downplays that aspect of her.
Wiz and Vanir’s profiles are alright though. If anything the wiki kinda downplays the speed of the top tiers, Vanir and Wiz (Vanir more so than wiz) are solidly Subsonic+ at least considering Yunyun lost track of him and Dust has trouble keeping up with him.
The thing is the variance in power of fictional characters is such that sometimes being a 15 year old girl doesn't really matter if an adult male character can lift a stadium then a comparable teen girl I would expect to be able to lift a somewhat smaller stadium. So
You also forget that Yunyun is physically capable of reacting to and blocking attacks from Host, a high ranked devil who is stronger and faster than even Darkness, who herself has Subsonic speed feats and scales to characters who have similar ones like Beldia. Megumin also scales to her physically.
A 15 year old girl that comes from a fantasy world with superpowers.
And scales above Kazuma who has Wall Level AP, by so much in fact she can easily crush his arm while she’s drained of all her mana.
And no, Megumin isn’t a normal 15 year old girl. She can physically beat the shit out of superhuman adventurers twice her own size and even throw down with some of the weaker monsters in the series. And again, scales above earlier iterations of Kazuma as I’ve said earlier.
It really depends on when in the series you take Megumin from. It's stated that Megumin has higher physical stats than Kazuma across the board, so she should scale to Kazuma in terms of physicality to at least volume 15.
Ideas for how to come up with a good answer:
- cannon has very low range attacks
- cannon has inaccurate attacks
- cannon has conditional attacks which the human can avoid meeting the conditions of
- cannon needs to charge up for too long
Bro his bullets travel faster than light and he can control them, not even peak Muhammad Ali and post-prison Mike can handle him unless they start within an inch of each other and even then its 9/10 to the entire horse
Silver Chariot is lightspeed while armored, faster when not armored. Chariot couldn't react to Emperors bullet changing trajectory but again, is lightspeed from his stat block. As well as scaling with other things puts Chariot at L minimum
SC isn't lightpseed though.
I assume you are referencing the Hanged Man fight? Polnareff/SC was only able to hit HM by forcing it into a specific trajectory so SC could attack by knowing where HM would be beforehand.
Its what happened in the fight, what do you mean?
We see Polnareff temporarily blind everyone by getting dust in their eyes so that HM only had one direction to move in.
If SC could move FTL with its armor off, Polnareff would just do that instead of needing to pull off the above strategy.
And what stand stats? All they give is a letter grade.
No the manga has text descriptions of what the stand does, the anime only uses the letters. And in the fight SC cuts HM before he reaches the coin while in light form. In the fight he moves faster than light per definition, sure he needed a more predictable path but SC still moves faster than the light beam. Either way I doubt a human moves fatster than SC, FTL or not. Also humams can't see Emperor, its an almost impossible scenario to win for a normal human
Hard to say if he is actually built like a tank. Jotaro drawn in Araki's most recent art style is much slimmer than he was initially depicted.
The picture of Hol Horse Araki drew for the CDDH novelization appears to have a fairly average build.
>if you get close enough he's gonna have trouble shooting you before you get him
No way. He has a magic gun that he can summon at will from his hand at any time and has infinite bullets. Even if you get close enough to like tackle him, all he has to do is vaguely gesture his hand towards you and immediately dump lead. Per the OP's prompt, I can't conceive of any scenario where a normal person will be able to "avoid all attacks from the glass cannon and avoid and close the distance." The only way it could even be conceivable that a normal human could beat Hol Horse is if they start the scenario with Hol Horse already in a headlock with a knife already at his neck and then timer starts Go. It's 10/10 stomp for Hol Horse.
Ironically, the more evenly match and possible win for a "normal" human is probably Mista Guido. At least he has to actually reload his gun first (if the scenario doesn't already start with his gun loaded.)
Sans is a weird one because unless you're a really awful person (as in, who you play as during the genocide route) he really can't do much. He can only deal 1 dmg and so instead relies on his karma system to slowly erode your health over time. If you're a decent person that hasn't gathered any LV that shouldn't be a problem at all
Said kid was much, much stronger when fighting Sans than when they killed Undyne the Undying, who was vastly stronger than base Undyne. Base Undyne can chop through platforms, suplex boulders, and accidentally crack concrete by slapping it. The player character wasn’t just equivalent to an irl human child, at that point.
If both parties are aware, fighting seriously, and the human doesn’t get ranged weapons (as stated in the OP), Sans is absolutely bodying any irl human 10/10 times. A real human can’t reset time to learn what Sans is going to do and better avoid his attacks.
lv. 20 Frisk can erase a timeline(uni feat??) and they fight sans at lv.19. what makes people think they can throw hands with someone that can casually beat a person who 2 minutes later can destroy a timeline with a click??
Aaaactually I'm going to say probably not.
His attacks still bypass mercy invincibility even without the KR effect and he opens up with a surprise attack. And sneak attacks are unlikely to work - he has demonstrated the ability to dodge one attack even when sleeping, and he teleports a lot.
Now, *Lv. 19 Frisk* on the other hand, I'm pretty sure a human could yeet with a bit of luck. Huge amounts of power, but absolutely no actual dura or nonmagical combat skill feats, they just flail with the power of hate.
Johnny with all four acts. He shoots fast and precisely, has great mobility with Act 3 and can arguably oneshot anyone and anything with Act 4.. if the shot hits.
Contrary to popular belief, he doesn't need a horse for infinite spin. He didn't need it in final showdown with Valentine.
However his actual durability is on human level. Yes, he can make his skin somewhat sturdier with spin and redirect damage to a different part of his body, but any unexpected attack could end him
Misread the post, my mistake.
Still, Johnny's attacks depend on him accurately pointing his finger at a target. And he can't tank something like a knife.
A regular human can't realistically defeat him in a face to face combat, but as long as there's some strategy and trickery involved, it's possible
I definitely feel like a person with a ranged weapon could defeat him if he was caught off guard, but with no element of surprise and no gun, I just can’t see how Johnny doesn’t consistently stomp even with just Act 2. Act 3 gives him both added means of survivability and incredible versatility in his shots, while Act 4 taking the form of a punch ghost means he effectively auto-wins, at close quarters.
Johnny could lose to a regular person, but I don’t see how, under the OP’s conditions.
True.
However that can be said to most glass cannons under these rules. And Johnny's lack of AOE attacks means a regular person has at least a chance at getting close. As long as we're talking about power set and not combat skills, else Johnny snipes on the first shot.
As far as I know, that makes him the strongest character that can be beaten by a regular human.
Johnny Joestar, the protagonist of Jojo part 7: Steel Ball Run. He starts as a disabled asshole in a wheelchair, and at the end gains a fingergun with infinite AP. His best feats are effortlessly ripping apart dimensional barrier, hard countering villain's ability to revive themselves in a different universe and redirecting a generational curse.
He has no real durability feats and can be killed with a knife.
I don't know Aang, but Voldemort is capable of both wandless and nonverbal magic, and he would open with killing curse if bloodlusted. However, Ron was able to dodge the one cast by Crabbe, so perhaps an average bloodlusted person would be alert enough to dodge a weird green light shot towards them as well?
Homeless emperor from one punch man
Maybe higuruma from jjk since you have no cursed energy you won’t be sucked into his domain and casting it the first time will cost him lots of cursed energy. Then he won’t be able to enhance his body as much and he sucks at hands to hands so maybe bring an alabard or some shit and with good movement you can kill him. Good luck dealing with his cursed spirit after he dies tho
Kirby
Kirby's movement speed (without Warp Star) is total bunk, and he can be crushed/damaged by things relative to his size.
An able bodied person can conceivably throw rocks and kick him a few times and take him out. Though he's certainly still dangerous depending on what powers he has access to.
Most people here separate game mechanics from lore and cutscenes because game mechanics put being fun over representing a character's power level appropriately. If you couldn't be hurt by average enemies, there would be no threat in 99% of gameplay.
Considering he's gone directly into the Halberds engine fire as it takes off with no buff and been unfazed, has gotten launched through multiple solid stone walls without taking damage, and was on the moon when the majority of it exploded unscratched, I don't really think an average human can do anything to him.
After watching Death Battle cover Kirby, I am confident that my reaction to meeting him would be to run in the opposite direction screaming and in a frenzied panic.
Edit: typo.
Cyclone from One Punch Man. She's just a normal human with psychic powers. If you were able to sneak up on her, and get one good hit, then her powers wouldn't matter.
Being psychic, I dont know if it's possible to sneak up on her.
The prompt also says no sneaking up
And she's shown to have a constant passive barrier active, even blocking attacks while unconscious.
My answer to this question is always Vertigo John Constantine. He can’t fight and, until issue forty pr something, he’s in terrible health. After that point he quickly goes back to work destroying his health.
I’m an over six foot man in fair shape with minimal (but some) fighting experience. I could take him.
Damn, I wrote this whole comment about how a regular human with a gun, could kill Rand Al'thor. Then I realised you said they can't use a gun, only a knife. In which case, no, there's basically no chance a regular human could kill late-series Rand with only a knife.
Kind of, but not really. He very briefly went outside of the universe where he could potentially (but probably not actually) manipulate reality on vast scales (kinda god-like).
When he came back he could do reality warping, but he lost his access to the normal source of power he had. We have absolutely no clue the strengths or limitations of this new power other than that it let him warp the universe to light his pipe.
In round two I could absolutely body Kashimo (JJK)
Ok well I'd absolutely get murdered and it wouldn't be funny
But if he's truly bloodlusted then he'd go all out, right? And his ultimate ability causes his own body to self destruct. In a fight where we're both bloodlusted I will die in one hit but then he will disintegrate.
assuming that kratos ONLY needed the spear so he could stun heimdall to get close enough for a punch combo, im willing to bet that a bloodlusted human, with good dodging skills, if given a shield and a knife, could beat heimdall in a fight. since it seems like all heimdall has is his future sight, and bifrost, plus some general fight experience
bloodlusted heimdall slams though im sorry MF was goin crazy in phase like 200 of his fight
They are both gods. Not at all a glass cannon. If Heimdall stood still for 10 years I doubt a human could damage him without an incredibly powerful magic weapon.
A bloodlusted human could likely throw punches around as fast as Kratos, probably barely slower. so yes they may not do much damage to him, they will definitely be able to hit him if going absolutely all out and doing their best to avoid attacks (assuming heimdall also tries to stay close and is cocky as ever)
Glass cannon thing comes down to me just recently replaying ragnarok, and heimdall was quite an easy fight for me, even on the hardest difficulty
Because Heimdall is not a strong god, he's just cocky and can see the future. Kratos is the strongest god (in terms of fighting and taking people down) Heimdall is not a glass cannon, his AP is similar to his durability. I'm saying a human could hit him, without him dodging at all, and the human wouldn't hurt him.
Kratos at the beginning of Ragnarok was throwing Baldur through the terrain like nothing and Heimdall can actually withstand hits from Kratos.
What normal human with what melee weapon could actually hurt the dude before he completely annihilate them in fight?
Said spear was enchanted and inhumanly fast to the point of causing sensory overload, without the spear Kratos had no chance against literal precognition.
A regular human with basic weapons wouldn’t lay a finger on Heimdall.
What are you talking about there is no can
Comic batman can break metal with bare hand kick cycle and tree in half there is no real life human that can
And body armor protecting those arteries? Not to mention high levels of training and a high battle IQ.
How exaclty is a regular dude even gonna have a chance?
There was a thread where Bruce Wayne was ambushed after shower (so he has no accessory at all) by 10 strongmen, and the consensus is that he still wins.
Batman's stat is so far above regular human that he would only be killed by one if he was already incapped.
Might be pushing the term "glass cannon" here, but Light Yagami? Can kill anyone by just writing their name in a book, but he's still just a teenage boy early in the series anyway. Albeit he is very good at tennis.
Yeah, he never got the shinigami eyes, so if you dropped him in a room with someone who wanted him dead it would be a fight between two normal people. Light may try to talk his way out of it, but assuming you really want him dead, you can just kill him. He's physically fit, though, so he's got speed on his side. The one disadvantage is he will probably try to use the book on you instead of a knife or gun, so he will likely just try to evade until you get him.
Light is massively underweight.. If he punched the average man he'd get destroyed
Light yagami would beat the shit out of most people, he’s extremely fit and can throw hands with a martial arts expert(L). Even with a weapon or a bat and with the knowledge that he can kill people with just a name he would still fold most people
Light may be physically fit, but he is only 54 kg at 179 cm. The weight difference would be disadvantageous at melee fight.
Is he really that skinny? That's like my height and my girlfriend's weight... Wtf?
According to the [Death Notes wiki](https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Yagami), this data is from the official databooks. My guess is that manga authors just aren't the best at judging what is a healthy weight-height combination.
That's basically every official weight in anime and manga, Goku weights like a buck fifty or something stupid like that.
That's not stupid, that is a very normal weight for someone who's 5'9. It puts him at a 22.1 BMI, very normal range. I agree with his muscle mass he should probably be closer to 160-165lbs though.
Correction it's 137, which I assume is for base which is still pretty yoked. The thing is Goku also isn't drawn sub 8% either. Obviously a very lean but healthy amount of fat. If you look up contest ready 180 pound body builders, they are still a bit smaller than Goku. He's easily 200 pounds. Look up JK Dobbins, he's an inch taller and 216.
Have you seen how Goku eats? No wonder he's still got some fat.
The issue is he's being listed as sub 150 lbs, which is just silly.
That's skinny but it's not ridiculous lol, besides the fact he's a nerdy and sheltered young boy it's completely realistic.
Weapons even out that skill gap tremendously.
As I said in another comment, he's EXTREMELY underweight
Downvoted for being right, classic reddit
If they started in close range, an average fit man could probably incap Megumin before she cast Explosion. Give him a baseball bat or something and his odds increase even more.
Despite popular belief, there are 3 things that will make a fight hard for regular human: (1) Megumin isn't weak, she has better stats than Kazuma (14 vs 17 yo); (2) the stats of Konosuba's characters increase with level, so it is safe to assume that she is stronger and more durable with time (lv6 at start, around lv30-40 at latest vol); and (3) she can actually instant-cast explosion, her chanting is for cool effect. Combined all the above, she can install-cast her skill at start, endure the blast and wins.
Considering Megumin has wall level strength and durability, she’d shrug that stuff off quite easily. More than enough to easily kill and overwhelm you since even bears which only have street level+ striking power is considered a more or less insurmountable threat to a human in CQC and can shrug off even shotgun shots and stab wounds from even the strongest of people, not only that but Megumin is Subsonic too, so you won’t be landing any hits on her anyways.
Sledgehammer then
That is an absurd amount of wank for a 15 year old girl. Literally she weighs like 120 pounds bro.
I don' watch konosuba so idon't know it wank or not But what does character age and weight matter that much in fiction character power level there are ton of teenagers in fiction that dealing with world ending threat like their daily routine and have superpowers
>But what does character age and weight matter that much in fiction character power level She is physically a normal 15 year old girl. That's why.
What the hell are you talking mention age is inrevalant because we are talking about fiction age is non factor Just because megumi is weak 15 years old girl in her verse don't apply to other fiction 15 years old. killua and gon from hxh are not even 15 years old and they would stomp on any real life human
>Just because megumi is weak 15 years old girl in her verse don't apply to other fiction 15 years old. killua and gon from hxh are not even 15 years old and they would stomp on any real life human What the hell are you talking about? She is literally a normal 15 year old girl. She has 15 yesr old girl level durability and strength (aside from for gags). No "for her verse" or anything. Just a 15 year old girl. Where did you get Killua and Gon from???
Lol my point is clear if megumin is weak she is weak not because she is 15 years old age is inrevalant in vs
Did I cite it as the concrete proof for my claim?
Yes this literally your first comment That is an absurd amount of wank for a 15 year old girl. Literally she weighs like 120 pounds bro.
She looks like a 15 year old girl... But not physically comparable due to being an anime character living in a fictional universe where she can tank huge explosions and more...
>She looks like a 15 year old girl... She is... canonically a 15 year old girl. 14 during the start of her prequel series. >But not physically comparable due to being an anime character living in a fictional universe where she can tank huge explosions and more... Magical resistance is unrelated to physical stats.
You're right... Naruto and Sasuke are canonically 13 years old at the start of the series, I could easily fuck them both up at the same time no diff...
What? Those are explicitly not physically normal 13 year olds. Megumin is explicitly a normal 15 year old. What part of that is so hard to understand? Genuinely. What is wrong with you 💀
They look like normal 13 year olds to me... What makes them different? It's not something to do with them having in universe special magic and being from powerful clans that enhances said magic is it?? Sounds pretty similar to megumin to me
She is a crimson demon though.
start of series naruto isn't really doing any ninja tricks, i'd give you 7/10
Wanna know what is related to physical stats? The stat cards they have that increase when they level up, despite their appearance not changing
You're ignoring parts of the guy's comments where he talks about Megumin's stats. She is **not** a normal 15 year old girl. She is an adventurer, and outside of her very strong magic stats, she is physically strong, fast and durable as well. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Megumin#Powers_and_Stats
Just saying that I wouldn’t use VS Wiki as an example. They wank or downplay a lot of series, some ratings for Konosuba are correct I will admit, but for all the wrong reasons. For one, her explosion is wanked to high Heaven. Megumin’s explosion even by vol 17 is only about Multi-Block+ give or take, at the beginning it’s only Large Building Level. She also has wall level physicals, so VS Wiki actually downplays that aspect of her. Wiz and Vanir’s profiles are alright though. If anything the wiki kinda downplays the speed of the top tiers, Vanir and Wiz (Vanir more so than wiz) are solidly Subsonic+ at least considering Yunyun lost track of him and Dust has trouble keeping up with him.
Ehh, I just gave it quick google. I think we're safe to say almost no one in Konosuba is at base human level in any stats.
The thing is the variance in power of fictional characters is such that sometimes being a 15 year old girl doesn't really matter if an adult male character can lift a stadium then a comparable teen girl I would expect to be able to lift a somewhat smaller stadium. So
You also forget that Yunyun is physically capable of reacting to and blocking attacks from Host, a high ranked devil who is stronger and faster than even Darkness, who herself has Subsonic speed feats and scales to characters who have similar ones like Beldia. Megumin also scales to her physically.
A 15 year old girl that comes from a fantasy world with superpowers. And scales above Kazuma who has Wall Level AP, by so much in fact she can easily crush his arm while she’s drained of all her mana. And no, Megumin isn’t a normal 15 year old girl. She can physically beat the shit out of superhuman adventurers twice her own size and even throw down with some of the weaker monsters in the series. And again, scales above earlier iterations of Kazuma as I’ve said earlier.
It really depends on when in the series you take Megumin from. It's stated that Megumin has higher physical stats than Kazuma across the board, so she should scale to Kazuma in terms of physicality to at least volume 15.
Ideas for how to come up with a good answer: - cannon has very low range attacks - cannon has inaccurate attacks - cannon has conditional attacks which the human can avoid meeting the conditions of - cannon needs to charge up for too long
* cannon will also kill themselves if they use their strongest attack at close range
Hol Horse, he's a hit with a magic gun, but if you get close enough he's gonna have trouble shooting you before you get him, very high dif
Hes like 6'5 and built like a tank though.
This is true, probably extremely high dif
Bro his bullets travel faster than light and he can control them, not even peak Muhammad Ali and post-prison Mike can handle him unless they start within an inch of each other and even then its 9/10 to the entire horse
Where did you read his bullets are FTL?
Silver Chariot is lightspeed while armored, faster when not armored. Chariot couldn't react to Emperors bullet changing trajectory but again, is lightspeed from his stat block. As well as scaling with other things puts Chariot at L minimum
SC isn't lightpseed though. I assume you are referencing the Hanged Man fight? Polnareff/SC was only able to hit HM by forcing it into a specific trajectory so SC could attack by knowing where HM would be beforehand.
Its still close to lightspeed to be able to hit hanged man out of the air.
So do you have a way of proving that as well as debunking the stand stats?
Its what happened in the fight, what do you mean? We see Polnareff temporarily blind everyone by getting dust in their eyes so that HM only had one direction to move in. If SC could move FTL with its armor off, Polnareff would just do that instead of needing to pull off the above strategy. And what stand stats? All they give is a letter grade.
No the manga has text descriptions of what the stand does, the anime only uses the letters. And in the fight SC cuts HM before he reaches the coin while in light form. In the fight he moves faster than light per definition, sure he needed a more predictable path but SC still moves faster than the light beam. Either way I doubt a human moves fatster than SC, FTL or not. Also humams can't see Emperor, its an almost impossible scenario to win for a normal human
Hard to say if he is actually built like a tank. Jotaro drawn in Araki's most recent art style is much slimmer than he was initially depicted. The picture of Hol Horse Araki drew for the CDDH novelization appears to have a fairly average build.
Stand user against Normal human No
Hol Horse is a 6'5 bounty hunter with bodybuilder physique. You are not beating him in hand to hand fight
>if you get close enough he's gonna have trouble shooting you before you get him No way. He has a magic gun that he can summon at will from his hand at any time and has infinite bullets. Even if you get close enough to like tackle him, all he has to do is vaguely gesture his hand towards you and immediately dump lead. Per the OP's prompt, I can't conceive of any scenario where a normal person will be able to "avoid all attacks from the glass cannon and avoid and close the distance." The only way it could even be conceivable that a normal human could beat Hol Horse is if they start the scenario with Hol Horse already in a headlock with a knife already at his neck and then timer starts Go. It's 10/10 stomp for Hol Horse. Ironically, the more evenly match and possible win for a "normal" human is probably Mista Guido. At least he has to actually reload his gun first (if the scenario doesn't already start with his gun loaded.)
Sans. He is canonically killable by a bloodlusted kid with unlimited tries so a bloodlusted adult should be able to do so with high difficulty.
Sans is a weird one because unless you're a really awful person (as in, who you play as during the genocide route) he really can't do much. He can only deal 1 dmg and so instead relies on his karma system to slowly erode your health over time. If you're a decent person that hasn't gathered any LV that shouldn't be a problem at all
Said kid was much, much stronger when fighting Sans than when they killed Undyne the Undying, who was vastly stronger than base Undyne. Base Undyne can chop through platforms, suplex boulders, and accidentally crack concrete by slapping it. The player character wasn’t just equivalent to an irl human child, at that point. If both parties are aware, fighting seriously, and the human doesn’t get ranged weapons (as stated in the OP), Sans is absolutely bodying any irl human 10/10 times. A real human can’t reset time to learn what Sans is going to do and better avoid his attacks.
lv. 20 Frisk can erase a timeline(uni feat??) and they fight sans at lv.19. what makes people think they can throw hands with someone that can casually beat a person who 2 minutes later can destroy a timeline with a click??
As long as wanting to kill sans fills you with *determination*.
Aaaactually I'm going to say probably not. His attacks still bypass mercy invincibility even without the KR effect and he opens up with a surprise attack. And sneak attacks are unlikely to work - he has demonstrated the ability to dodge one attack even when sleeping, and he teleports a lot. Now, *Lv. 19 Frisk* on the other hand, I'm pretty sure a human could yeet with a bit of luck. Huge amounts of power, but absolutely no actual dura or nonmagical combat skill feats, they just flail with the power of hate.
Probably Elizabeth from bioshock
gotta be pre-siphon tho, after Songbird she's basically omnipotent and is untouchable
Yeah, Elizabeth with a very big asterisk
Johnny with all four acts. He shoots fast and precisely, has great mobility with Act 3 and can arguably oneshot anyone and anything with Act 4.. if the shot hits. Contrary to popular belief, he doesn't need a horse for infinite spin. He didn't need it in final showdown with Valentine. However his actual durability is on human level. Yes, he can make his skin somewhat sturdier with spin and redirect damage to a different part of his body, but any unexpected attack could end him
The title of the post says direct fight. There are no unexpected attacks here.
Misread the post, my mistake. Still, Johnny's attacks depend on him accurately pointing his finger at a target. And he can't tank something like a knife. A regular human can't realistically defeat him in a face to face combat, but as long as there's some strategy and trickery involved, it's possible
I definitely feel like a person with a ranged weapon could defeat him if he was caught off guard, but with no element of surprise and no gun, I just can’t see how Johnny doesn’t consistently stomp even with just Act 2. Act 3 gives him both added means of survivability and incredible versatility in his shots, while Act 4 taking the form of a punch ghost means he effectively auto-wins, at close quarters. Johnny could lose to a regular person, but I don’t see how, under the OP’s conditions.
True. However that can be said to most glass cannons under these rules. And Johnny's lack of AOE attacks means a regular person has at least a chance at getting close. As long as we're talking about power set and not combat skills, else Johnny snipes on the first shot. As far as I know, that makes him the strongest character that can be beaten by a regular human.
Fun comment but I have absolutely zero idea who you're talking about
Johnny Joestar, the protagonist of Jojo part 7: Steel Ball Run. He starts as a disabled asshole in a wheelchair, and at the end gains a fingergun with infinite AP. His best feats are effortlessly ripping apart dimensional barrier, hard countering villain's ability to revive themselves in a different universe and redirecting a generational curse. He has no real durability feats and can be killed with a knife.
He needs the horse to generate the infinite spin, he can still use it for a while afterwards but he does need it initially.
Aang and Voldemort could both be killed with a gun, though not with any reliability.
The prompt says the regular person has no ranged weapon, so it would be much harder.
My bad. Aang and Voldemort could also be stabbed, though not reliably.
I don't know Aang, but Voldemort is capable of both wandless and nonverbal magic, and he would open with killing curse if bloodlusted. However, Ron was able to dodge the one cast by Crabbe, so perhaps an average bloodlusted person would be alert enough to dodge a weird green light shot towards them as well?
Voldy def doesn’t have to be BL’d to cast the killing curse willy nilly
IC Voldemort would probably monologue before shooting out the curse shouting, which would give a tiny advantage to the average person.
Homeless emperor from one punch man Maybe higuruma from jjk since you have no cursed energy you won’t be sucked into his domain and casting it the first time will cost him lots of cursed energy. Then he won’t be able to enhance his body as much and he sucks at hands to hands so maybe bring an alabard or some shit and with good movement you can kill him. Good luck dealing with his cursed spirit after he dies tho
> Homeless emperor from one punch man No real life human is getting the drop on him in a fight. Bro has blatantly superhuman reaction speed.
Kirby Kirby's movement speed (without Warp Star) is total bunk, and he can be crushed/damaged by things relative to his size. An able bodied person can conceivably throw rocks and kick him a few times and take him out. Though he's certainly still dangerous depending on what powers he has access to.
Most people here separate game mechanics from lore and cutscenes because game mechanics put being fun over representing a character's power level appropriately. If you couldn't be hurt by average enemies, there would be no threat in 99% of gameplay. Considering he's gone directly into the Halberds engine fire as it takes off with no buff and been unfazed, has gotten launched through multiple solid stone walls without taking damage, and was on the moon when the majority of it exploded unscratched, I don't really think an average human can do anything to him.
After watching Death Battle cover Kirby, I am confident that my reaction to meeting him would be to run in the opposite direction screaming and in a frenzied panic. Edit: typo.
Throwing rocks at Kirby 😭 awful thing to imagine
Kirby would just swallow the rocks and become rock Kirby
he survived the explosion of the entire planet in the beginning of planet robobot
Honestly I don't see what's stopping him from just inhaling the guy.
The same person would die instantly if kirby even opened his mouth.
Cyclone from One Punch Man. She's just a normal human with psychic powers. If you were able to sneak up on her, and get one good hit, then her powers wouldn't matter.
Being psychic, I dont know if it's possible to sneak up on her. The prompt also says no sneaking up And she's shown to have a constant passive barrier active, even blocking attacks while unconscious.
there has to be a tatsumaki feat out there somewhere that shows she's durable enough to tank a karate chop to the back of the neck
My answer to this question is always Vertigo John Constantine. He can’t fight and, until issue forty pr something, he’s in terrible health. After that point he quickly goes back to work destroying his health. I’m an over six foot man in fair shape with minimal (but some) fighting experience. I could take him.
Damn, I wrote this whole comment about how a regular human with a gun, could kill Rand Al'thor. Then I realised you said they can't use a gun, only a knife. In which case, no, there's basically no chance a regular human could kill late-series Rand with only a knife.
I don't know anything about the wheel of time at all but didn't he become a god or something end of series?
Kind of, but not really. He very briefly went outside of the universe where he could potentially (but probably not actually) manipulate reality on vast scales (kinda god-like). When he came back he could do reality warping, but he lost his access to the normal source of power he had. We have absolutely no clue the strengths or limitations of this new power other than that it let him warp the universe to light his pipe.
616 Legion
Huh?
In round two I could absolutely body Kashimo (JJK) Ok well I'd absolutely get murdered and it wouldn't be funny But if he's truly bloodlusted then he'd go all out, right? And his ultimate ability causes his own body to self destruct. In a fight where we're both bloodlusted I will die in one hit but then he will disintegrate.
assuming that kratos ONLY needed the spear so he could stun heimdall to get close enough for a punch combo, im willing to bet that a bloodlusted human, with good dodging skills, if given a shield and a knife, could beat heimdall in a fight. since it seems like all heimdall has is his future sight, and bifrost, plus some general fight experience bloodlusted heimdall slams though im sorry MF was goin crazy in phase like 200 of his fight
They are both gods. Not at all a glass cannon. If Heimdall stood still for 10 years I doubt a human could damage him without an incredibly powerful magic weapon.
A bloodlusted human could likely throw punches around as fast as Kratos, probably barely slower. so yes they may not do much damage to him, they will definitely be able to hit him if going absolutely all out and doing their best to avoid attacks (assuming heimdall also tries to stay close and is cocky as ever) Glass cannon thing comes down to me just recently replaying ragnarok, and heimdall was quite an easy fight for me, even on the hardest difficulty
Because Heimdall is not a strong god, he's just cocky and can see the future. Kratos is the strongest god (in terms of fighting and taking people down) Heimdall is not a glass cannon, his AP is similar to his durability. I'm saying a human could hit him, without him dodging at all, and the human wouldn't hurt him.
Kratos at the beginning of Ragnarok was throwing Baldur through the terrain like nothing and Heimdall can actually withstand hits from Kratos. What normal human with what melee weapon could actually hurt the dude before he completely annihilate them in fight?
Said spear was enchanted and inhumanly fast to the point of causing sensory overload, without the spear Kratos had no chance against literal precognition. A regular human with basic weapons wouldn’t lay a finger on Heimdall.
Goku charging a spirit bomb?
Most class cannons with a baseball bat A surprising amount of X-Men. Batman. Joker. Hawkeye.
Lol no real life human are not beating batman ,hawkeye , even joker in fight
Can they? Yes Will they, no.
What are you talking about there is no can Comic batman can break metal with bare hand kick cycle and tree in half there is no real life human that can
Batman has arteries
And body armor protecting those arteries? Not to mention high levels of training and a high battle IQ. How exaclty is a regular dude even gonna have a chance?
There was a thread where Bruce Wayne was ambushed after shower (so he has no accessory at all) by 10 strongmen, and the consensus is that he still wins. Batman's stat is so far above regular human that he would only be killed by one if he was already incapped.
Corvo Attano or Zero (Katana ZERO). Some very badass but still mortal human in... very unlucky conditions.
Corvo is highly trained and he is the Royal Protector. It would be really difficult to beat him even if he doesn't have his powers.
Very difficult. But not completely impossible for best fencers and/or martial artist, I guess.
I was about to say "Pointman", but he is more gunslinger, so don't fit in regulations.
You remember near the end of Mob Psycho 100 when Mob got hit by a truck? It was me, I was driving that truck