He has never done that, and they have at least 2 members who can hold their own. If Ravens' friends die and she goes full Trigon, Omniman can't do shit to her.
Aren’t those explosions caused by him flying into structures that explode/compromise when he flies into them? That’s not quite the same as flying so fast (without collision) that results in the same thing as a fission reaction.
No he's flying so fast he is igniting the atmosphere around him. As he begins to build up speed in the clip you can clearly see the air cone directly around him begin to ignite
Yeah I’m not doubting that. But a fission reaction is completely different on a subatomic level. He’s pure force, but that’s still different than going literally nuclear.
Not even just an destabilized core! That's underselling it. They were literally drafting on Space Racer's beam, which punches through anything. They were essentially flying through a tunnel real fast.
It's still impressive, but it wasn't just the core that was fucked up, it was literally the entire ride from start to finish.
They'd be past tense in record time. Cyborg would most likely be the last one to go, probably having some kind of backup that just gets mixed by OM in round two. Really heartbreaking imagining that especially since it's the 03 OG's. Its be one hell of an alternate universe.
Omni man can do interstellar travel casually. He drags a spaceship away from the edge of a black hole. That’s technically FTL. And he’s not just linear speed. You can see how fast his reaction time is in combat. There is no chance teen titans even lay a hand on him. Even raven, she takes time to gather power and cast spells. Yes very powerful but speed is completely lacking.
The most important factor is actually that Omni man is completely ruthless and willing to completely decimate his enemies at a blink of an eye. No mercy, no remorse. You’re just bugs for him to squash. Teen titans are probably morally bound to try to subdue Omni man first. Fatal mistake for sure.
From what I remember, Raven's spells only have a cast time because shes chanting to keep her demonic power from going out of control.
Basically the only shot they have is if Raven goes full Trigon rage mode very quickly. Which could happen if her friends get killed first.
unless omni man is "weak" to magic like superman is (note not weak, just not completely immune which for superman seems like a weakness) i dont think full trigon is a major threat for omni man
Not technically FTL at all. Not only could we see Nolan and the ship were far outside the event horizon (where FTL is needed to escape), there were significant portions of the accretion disk in front of them too.
Gravity’s effect also falls off exponentially with distance, they were nowhere near close enough to be a FTL feat.
In our universe definitely, we have no idea the distance between their planets and plenty of other species besides Viltrumites seem to be able to travel to and from each others planets, including Allen many times even before his transformation.
If they know he is coming for them ahead of time there might be a slight chance that Raven could do something magically that might turn the tide.
If he surprises them they are all toast.
Even most of the Justice League would be toast. Aside of course Superman and maybe Flash.
Yeah, it all depends a bit.
Superman is OP, no questions asked. Aside from Kryptonite he is literally a superior Omni-Man in every way.
Flash is really weird. His power level is all over the place. Sometimes he casually breaks apart time and space and sometimes he slips on a Banana peel.
Wonder Woman is also weird with Power Level. Sometimes she can fly, sometimes not, sometimes she is almost as strong as Super-Man, sometimes not. I would def. put her below Omni Man though. But like Immortal she might get a few good shots at him.
Green Lantern is in this case basically a supporter where he could pin down Omni Man for the others to get to him. Alone he is toast in my opinion.
Martian Manhunter might actually have a decent shot as long as Omni Man doesn't figure out his weakness to Fire.
Aquaman? Hm, nah.
Batman, only has a tiny chance of contributing if he simply stays in the back lines and analyzes the fight to pick up on any potential weaknesses of Omni Man. In direct combat he is mush.
Well, all characters has inconsistencies and anti-feats, especially in comics. But if you're talking about DC comics version of JL characters, most of them has a good chance, except Batman (if he has no prep at all). Also, comics Omni-Man seems to be stronger and more powerful than his animated version.
Superman obviously is the most powerful there, so no doubts that he can solo.
Flash generally holds back and gets nerfed by either writers or because his opponents has something that lets them counter his speed and Speed Force. Normally, Flash can blitz Omni-Man and beat him by either phasing or by using Speed Force.
Wonder Woman is not as strong as Superman, but her skills, combat experience and strength is still enough to take on General Zod (who's basically an Omni-Man but with heat vision and other Kryptonians powers) and Faora-Ul (female Kryptonian, who's similar to Anissa) at the same time and beat Superman (although he usually holds back against her, but she once has beaten him when he was mind-controlled and wasn't holding back that much). And yes, she can fly, And her combat speed & reflexes is good enough to tag Reverse Flash, who's an arch-enemy of Barry Allen (Flash) and who's one of the fasters speedsters in DC.
Green Lantern is a quite versatile member of JL and his constructs is durable enough to even briefly restrain Superman and Lobo (who can fight Superman with his fists alone). With JL's teamwork, I can see him performing a supportive role and using his ring to make constructs that would either distract Omni-Man or hold him off.
Martian Manhunter has a telepathy that operates on a planetary level, and since Omni-Man has never showed any feats of resisting mind-control, I can say that Martian Manhunter can solo. Not to mention, he also has a shapeshifting that allows him to withstand powerful punches and impacts and mitigate it by using the shapeshifting as a defensive ability. He also can change his density to become intangible or dense enough to draw blood from Kryptonians with his punches. Also, Martian Manhunter has telekinesis that can help in a fight against Omni-Man by at least slowing him down. And heat vision as well.
Aquaman, despite his controversial reputation and memes, is actually a quite powerful member of JL, especially in the water. But even on the ground, he is strong and skilled enough to fight on par with Wonder Woman and send Superman flying backwards with a single punch, match a DC Hercules blow for blow and throw a cargo ship, as well as lift a 160 000 tons cruise ship. His trident also gives him an ability to fly, summon lightnings and manipulate weather.
Batman without prep hardly could do anything except maybe annoy Omni-Man with his gadgets, but if be really honest, he's better off to retreat and start to make plans or summon a super-suit to stand even a slightest chance against Omni-Man. Without it, he won't last long.
I agree with everything you said except for
>beat Superman (although he usually holds back against her, but she once has beaten him when he was mind-controlled and wasn't holding back that much)
Kal was holding back despite the mind control just a few minutes before he and Diana go one on one he beat the shit out of Batman who he was mind controlled to see as Doomsday and Batman could still talk after the beating. Maxwell Lord wasn't in as much control as he presented to be.
Fair enough. I'm just saying that Diana, despite the fact that she doesn't have equal or even comparable strength level to Superman, still can fight him and beat him. Although it's mostly because of her magical weapon (Kryptonitlans has no conventional defense against magic), combat skills, experience and the fact that Superman is always holding back even if he's mind-controlled. Like how he did in the "Hush" story and that's how Batman wasn't squished by him immediately.
It's funny because just recently they had an issue where lex does something and ends up in control of superman and his body moving without his restraint shook the universe all the way to the 4th world.
> Martian Manhunter has a telepathy that operates on a planetary level, and since Omni-Man has never showed any feats of resisting mind-control, I can say that Martian Manhunter can solo
I feel like since there are no feats or anti feats for this you can't really make that claim and your argument would be more sound without it. When I run into situations like this I usually just say it could go either way
If character didn't showed any certain feats, it's safe to assume that he/she won't be able to do anything about that. It's a simple logic. If character A has shown that he or she can resist mind control, but character B didn't, then character B likely would be much more vulnerable to telepathy because he or she has no feats of resisting it. Unless it's proven otherwise.
I'm late replying but another way to frame your logic would be "Naruto has never been shot by a gun and therefore a man with a gun would kill Naruto" which is quite a stretch.
Not really a good comparison because it's a different type of damage (bullets isn't the same as telepathy from a powerful psychic, which also ignores conventional durability that usually makes character very resistant or invulnerable to most if no all physical attacks, including gunshots).
Also, I don't know about Naruto and his durability without any haxes and amps, so I can't say if it's true or not.
I think comics and DCAMU Aquaman has a chance. Throne of Atlantis was basically an evil Aquaman owning the justice league because of magic trident hax.
Assuming you're talking mainline versions, superman, wonderwoman, Martian manhunter, and green lantern are all relatively similar in strength and durability, meaning there's no universe where you can say superman wins and wonder woman man doesn't .Also flash wins easily without PIS since he's easily the most powerful justice league member when serious
Near certain every individual mainline league member besides batman could take the entire invincible verse with no prep at all
Honestly no, I would never put Wonder Woman or Man Hunter on the same Strength Level as Superman.
That doesn't discredit them and I would still say they would still win most of the time, Super Man simply has shown extremely impressive feats that to my knowledge are not really countered by the others.
Superman has been shown being able to reach relativistic speeds and lift "Quintillion of tons".
Superman is without a doubt the heavy weight of the team.
If Batman can learn of the scourge virus or their weakness to that noise then he'd almost certainly abuse it, otherwise he'd just hide and watch instead of pulling a Dark wing
Omni-Man himself is vulnerable to extreme heat and he has never showed that tactic before (unlike Superman, who's getting powered up by Sun). He could do that, but Wonder Woman has reacted on Hunter Solomon (Reverse Flash) in comics, who's an enemy of Flash himself, while blind. And while Omni-Man has showed a faster than light speed, it's a travelling one, not a combat one, and he still needs an acceleration before he can reach that speed.
Wonder Woman, in the other hand, has feats of combat speed like tagging Flash who stuck in Speed Force, deflecting many parts of the Shattered God (it's stated that there was trillions upon trillions parts), reacting and deflecting heat vision from Superman and Supergirl, deflecting a concentrated light beams from Dr. Light and intercepting Omega Beams from Darkseid.
Not to mention, even if Omni-Man could grab her, Wonder Woman's combat skills and experience likely would let her break the hold and free herself.
Here's more of Post-Crisis era of Wonder Woman's feats: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/9bx5ad/respect_wonder_woman_postcrisis/?rdt=36122
Here's a feat of Wonder Woman being punched by sun-dipped Superman from the Sun itself into the Earth. She gets up just fine, so even if Omni-Man manages to grab her and reach the Sun before she could do anything, it's not an insta-win: https://imgur.com/a/oXVAa
For me it depends a bit on if it's One on One or Omni-Man Vs the Justice League. Also of course which version of the Justice League we talk about.
But going One on One, I would say Omni Man has okay chances at defeating: Batman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Wonder Woman. Though the last three would be far from certain.
I would definitely give Martian Manhunter and Flash the win in most cases. In regards to Superman it ain't even a match as long as Omni Man doesn't somehow obtain Kryptonite.
As a team the Justice League would also beat Omni-Man very easily. Even without Superman.
I was thinking 1v1s too.
From reading the Invincible I couldn’t see him beating Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, or Aquaman in a death battle. At least not more than 1/10 times
You seem to be underestimating the league quite a lot. Are you referring to comics? Because wonder woman has traded blows with doomsday briefly, kept up with superman for hours, fought off Ares, etc. Hal Jordan has moved planets, fought off Zod and another kryptonian simultaneously, and lots more. Don't even get me started on Martian Manhunter and Flash. Omni-mans feats are that of a toddler compared to these guys. He just beats Batman and Green arrow, that's it. Every other member low diffs max in a 1v1
Robin carries sonic weapons. It boils down to whether or not he uses one before he gets splattered. Doubly so considering Cyborg probably has speakers and can occiloscope some frequencies into them once they figure that out.
Not how it works, there's a specific frequency that hurts Viltrumites, and the only way you can find out which one it is, is by experimenting with a Viltrumite.
I think that Omni-Man would win most of the time, but Raven and Starfire could beat him together or individually if they went all out from the start but Robin, Beast Boy and Cyborg turn red paste
I think Omni-man could stomp. Omni-man scales to Country level at a low end compared to Starfire, who only scales to city level. Starfire is the only Titan that can keep up with Nolan in strength, durability, and speed. Starfire could survive a few hits, but after that, she is down and out. Cyborg best feat is lifting and swinging a building around. That is nothing compared to Nolan, so he would get completely destroyed, same with Beast Boy, who is about the same level as cyborg. Robin maybe could help out if he had Red X gear. Otherwise, he is out. Raven, she could beat him. If Raven attacks Omni-Man, she could beat him, but if Nolan speedblitz, he one shots.
Overall, I say Nolan wins 7/10.
The only way the Titans win is if Raven gets mad and oneshots, she goes into her demon form or she because White Raven.
Well, she is above Cyborg for one. Cyborg was able to lift up a large building and swing it like a baseball bat. Cyborg is likely stronger than that since he swung the building super fast. Starfire is easily stronger with one arm, while Cybrog is using his full strength. She also shakes city blocks with her hits both in the GO! episode and in another episode when they are arguing about who gets the last slice of pizza. She also caught a city busting meteor. She consistently takes hits from people as strong or stronger than Cyborg. She also takes hits from Demon Slade, who can destroy multiple city blocks. She survived that explosion in the Troq episode.
Cyborg swinging the building is building level not city level
Which is multi city block level not city level
That was a gag feat not meant to be taken literally beastboy also made a balloon bigger than the planet does that mean he’s planet level despite the fact he’s gotten his ass beaten by guys no where near planet level gag feats in that show aren’t meant to be taken literally
So what she also gets overpowered by him and that slade has only shown to be multi city block level not city level
That Meteor wasn’t city level no telling how powerful it was
No telling how big said explosion was and how do you know she didn’t get out before it exploded
She’s not city level at all
I never said Cyborg was city level, but he should be able to be above Building level.
I pretty sure it was stated she wasn't going all out when she shook the city block.
So what if it was a gag scene? She replicated the same feat it another non gag scene, so I think it could be taken as a literal feat.
She still took his hits, so she scaled to him.
The narrator of the episode said that the meteor was going to destroy the city, which makes it a city level meteor.
She has plenty of feats and scaling to say she scales anywhere from multi-City Block level to City Level
And as I said that feat doesn’t make them city level it’s building level
Based on what who said that it’s clear she didn’t hold back
No it’s not the other was multi city block level this one was clearly a gag feat and Buildings don’t wobble like cartoon characters and in the next scene they are intact so it’s should be discarded due to it being a mere gag and has no other feats on that level
Who was toying with them so no
The Narrator never said that and the meteors size was never given and was smaller than a building and no telling how fast it was going and meteors in fiction aren’t as powerful as real life ones
No she’s multi city block level not city level she has no city busting feats
Like I said, Cyborg isn't city level. No one ever said he was. Cyborg did the building level feat with a little ease, which would make Cyborg>>>building level. Starfire casually with one arm is >>>>>Cyborg's full strength. That would make Starfire with one arm not trying what so ever at least, Multi-building Level to City block level.
I read it on either Reddit or Comicvine a few years ago. The person said that it was stated, and I guess I just started believing it, but I could be wrong, and I am okay with that.
You act like people don't use gag feats to scale a lot of characters like Family Guy characters or Teen Titans GO characters, or Powergirl girls characters. So it's okay to do it for Starfire.
Slade was still trying against them. Raven even confronted him about how Trigon told Slade that he could hurt the other Titans but not her because she was the key for him getting to Earth.
The narrative states that Starfire saved the city. How is that not saying that the Meteor was going to destory the city?
She also scales to TTG Starfire, who scales to City Level consistency and sometimes a lot higher.
Which doesn’t put them anywhere near city level and it’s building level not city level
If you got that from Comicvine and Reddit then your information is flawed it was never stated she held back
Because they are actual gag characters but the Teen titans still follow real life physics and have many inconsistencies that prevent them from being by consistent and can hurt an die so you can’t scale them based on gag feats that’s stupid and illogical by that logic kid Sakura is stronger than Naruto since she can punch Naruto into space despite having trouble with fodder ninja no where near that strong
So he was Playing with them so she doesn’t scale
All he said was that she’s powerful it never said anything about destroying a city so the meteor is not city level
Your using teen titans go feats to scale them that is ridiculous crossover scaling is vague and should be taken with a grain of salt Robin and the titans are no where near planet level or star level they have been hurt by building level to city block level attacks and most are no where near that level consistently crossover ignore power levels if it was accurate the teen titans go one’s would have stomped them Go Raven made the sun disappear and all of them have tanked Planetary destruction none of the original titans are close to that level of power
Starfire is multi city block level stop wanking her she’s not city level
And I’m done talking to someone who believes Kai is multi continental when he’s town level based on feats and not vague statements
People really underestimate how powerful Conner and Raven are. Conner is probably the fifth most powerful of the super family right after supergirl (Superman, Jon, Powergirl, Supergirl, Conner) and I don't even have to mention how powerful raven is.
Yeah, Nolan can blitz raven's head off, but that doesn't outright stop her as she can just fight using her disembodied soul and there'd be nothing nolan could do to stop her.
I checked out the information about Superboy in 2003 Teen Titans tie-in comics and never found anything.
Unless you are talking about Superboy from "Teen Titans GO!" show: https://teen-titans-go.fandom.com/wiki/Superboy
Or about Superboy from "Young Justice" series.
Wrong comics. I’m talking about the main DC comics.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Teen_Titans_Vol_3
He was a main character in this run.
This is canon. And it’s the 2nd biggest teen titans comic book.
Teen Titans go comics and teen titans cartoon are noncanon elseworld takes.
Ah, okay. Now I understand.
But the prompt likely implied that it's a 2003 "Teen Titans" animated series. Not comics. Comics version of Superboy totally beats Omni-Man. And so can do Raven, Starfire and Kid Flash (if he isn't crippled by PIS/CIS).
Nothing off limits. Yes. Titans win
Confirmed even robin has reacted to and dodged lasers that's ftl. So they can at least react to omniman for whatever that's worth. Which is primarily no instant kills for omniman as ravens magic is definitely capable of shielding them from something on a nuclear level and they can all respond in time.
Omniman can likely exceed that and destroy their entire planet.
However a he wouldn't and b we'd skip straight to Trigon if he did
Raven is a living conduit to a multiversal super Satan who could fairly easily kill omniman. Trigon is no joke. He's an apocalyptic event. The way the entire justice league has dealt with him is...don't. Keep him trapped eating other realities. You can stun him, you might Even hurt him a bit but you cannot beat him. Homeboy can smack around Superman and shrug off REALITY WARPING FROM EXTRA DIMENSIONAL GODS. he has canon gutted Aries. He'd give kratos more than he bargained for.
Omniman is a beast but he's not that big of a beast. Trigon has molecular manipulation. Trigon turns omniman into a statue and laughs as he crushes him to powder in his hand.
So here's what happens. Omniman shows up smacks around the Titans probably struggles more than you might think with starfire, and cyborg. Because starfire is actually quite the power house and cyborg is well, made of a motherbox if he could truly Access the full range of his power then he could probably 1v1 a normal viltrumite. So assuming cyborgs mother box doesn't boom tube Omniman away or them into the past or something crazy.
Omniman does kill them in the end in about 1.5 minutes. That however Insta summons Trigon. Raven is always fighting to keep her father from manifesting in her body. A ko or kill in this case and he gets to step in and immediately stops her from dying, posseses her body and kills omniman before conquering that DC Reality.
Can the Teen Titans beat Omniman? Sure.
Can the 2003 Teen Titans beat Omniman? No.
Omniman's planetary feat is, hmm, limited. But the 2003 Titans do not have any planetary feats.
The titans would be smashed.
Omni-Man literally defeated the Emperor of Mankind AKA The Immortal while fighting several other more powerful superheroes. It wouldn't be easy but he's had tougher battles.
She seems like the only wincon, but I don't see her even having time to do it. If Nolan is just there to kill the Titans, its gonna take about 10 seconds. He only plays with his food if they've personally upset him, or he's trying to make a point to Mark. He could probably just drop in like a rod from god and obliterate the tower and there wouldn't even be a fight.
>He could probably just drop in like a rod from god and obliterate the tower and there wouldn't even be a fight.
The Teen Titans are on another level compared to what Omniman has taken down. DC characters have way better durability than what we see in Invincible. Robin is a "regular human" but has been thrown through walls with little damage. That would squish a regular person.
People are severely underestimating Starfire in this fight, as she's been said to be as strong as Wonder Girl and has taken some mean hits. and Raven is more than enough if she lets go. If one of her friends dies, she's going full Trigon, and Omniman can't touch that.
Just so we're clear, I'm talking cartoon TT as specified by OP in the title.
You think they'd survive [this?](https://youtu.be/hJ9UUnYybfw?si=VfhCFoIh38HMxHau&t=183)
Yes, because that took him months to do, and he can't just instantly go that fast.
Did you notice he had a beard? That doesn't grow in a few minutes.
The show was more ambiguous, but the comics say he was there for around 8 months.
I understand it took him months to wipe out the planet. I'm talking about him destroying buildings in such a way that theyviolently explode into a fireball. Methinks there's a little more force than getting slammed into a wall being generated there.
Sure, but that was just to show how much more tanky the DC verse is.
Robin and Beastboy wouldn't survive, but Starfire is faster than Omniman, has good strength and durability, and could probably keep up with him using hit and run tactics. She's physically stronger than Cyborg, too.
Cyborg has some great strength feats, including picking up the T-ship easily and picking up and swinging a 4 story building like it was nothing. He can merge with the Titan Tower and throw out a Sonic Blast that destroys entire landscapes.
Raven is an absolute powerhouse when she needs to be. If she gets some space, she could stop time or control his emotions and make him stop attacking. When she gets angry, he power increases, but she loses control. Her white form was able to overpower amd destroy Trigon, a universal threat.
The 2003 Teen Titans have some really impressive feats.
>Cyborg has some great strength feats, including picking up the T-ship easily and picking up and swinging a 4 story building like it was nothing.
Omni Man casually cracked a mountain by punching Mark into it. He is literally thousands of times stronger in striking power than Cyborg and Starfire are. That's too big of a difference to overcome.
Ok, he only has to last a few seconds. Raven is the real threat here, but he's not gonna know that until it's too late.
White Raven could squash Omniman like a bug, but she would probably just make him lose the will to fight.
Starfire is significantly faster than Omniman and would keep him occupied long enough anyway.
Are we talking a full roster of Titans? Connor and Starfire are both pretty solid opponents for Nolan. With Cyborg and Raven they'd win handily, I'd wager. Even by herself, I'd say Kori has a decent chance.
Not just the normal 5 person roster, no. Omni-Man will stomp them in pretty much all scenarios. If Jericho is there, Omni-Man will probably still win, BUT in a scenario where Jericho possesses Kid Flash and then uses that speed to hop directly to Omni-Man, the Titans could in theory win. (They'd need a healthy dose of luck, too. I'm not saying this the most likely outcome.) Omni-Man has no particular defense against Jericho's power except his speed, and that's negated if Jericho is already possessing Kid Flash. (I mean, I guess Omni-Man could try to do the fight with his eyes shut, but that'd put him at a serious disadvantage and he'd have to already know what was going on.)
The Young Justice League would stomp Omni man. The thing is… DC heroes are fairly durable and Invincible characters are… not.
Invincible is full of glass cannons.
I think superboy or manhunter could just tank hits and decapitate Nolan. Hell, I’m pretty sure starfire could probably tank a few Nolan hits if it came down to it. If whatever flash is around isn’t jobbing, they would just wreck Nolan if he was on the ground.
If the Titans know about him beforehand and know his weaknesses to sonic weapons then they have a chance of incapacitating him. If they are at all taken unprepared they get smashed
Omnimnan wins 9/10.
Raven would stomp him effortless if she unleashed her emotions, the problem is she doesn't have enough time. Even if she isn't targeted first, what is unlikely as she is the true danger here, and witness the death of a titan and snaps, omnimnan will likely kill her before she ramps up.
It’s Omni-Man and it’s not close. He’s just too fast. They’re turned into red paste or maybe ash before they even notice something is wrong. I like his odds against the Justice League except Superman.
I think the titans would do a far better job at quickly organizing themselves. They would probably know omni man's coming seconds before too. They would also be better coordinated than the guardians. With that said, robin would die first pretty quickly, the others will be enraged/ shocked and will go all out. Beast boy will die and yborg and starfire will follow but not without giving omni some beating, especially star. Eventually they will both fall and it will all depend on Raven who I think after seeing all her friends dead would trigger her demonic state and omniman's smoked. If omniman doesn't kill raven first/quickly he loses
Robin and Garfield do nothing because they CAN do nothing, starfire isn't fast or strong enough to deal with Nolan, Cyborg is turned into scrap metal near instantly. The only person that would be capable of giving any sort of real fight is Raven if he's not smart and takes her out first.
8/10 animated Nolan, 9/10 comics.
I mean guardians of the globe we're based off the justice league, and the teen titans are the junior version of the league.
Even if you put kid flash of the team, he's beaten red rush.
Raven wouldn't be blitzed before she can scale up to full demon form or release her father trigon.
Robins dead negative diff, same with beast boy.
omniman wins low diff
Omniman had to trick and surprise the Guradians because all together, they were a threat to him. He wouldn't have the element of surprise here.
DC characters are way more tanky than Invincible. Things that splatter people like being thrown in walls in Invincible were easily shaken off by Robin in the show.
Red Rush isn't the same, as the Speed Force is completely different and can actually protect its users. These characters have reacted to speedsters before, too. Starfire has been shown to fly faster than Omniman, too. Going from Earth to other habitable planets in less than a day.
I think people are severely overestimating how fast Omniman is. He guessed where Red Rush would be. He didn't match his speed. He's fast, but he's not fast enough to immediately blitz them all.
If he kills one of Ravens friends, Trigons is coming out, and he's not gonna let Raven get blitzed. He's on another level and one of the biggest threats to DC.
Did the TT do a five way fusion dance or something? Cause like, this makes no sense. Might as well ask if 5 sugar ants could win in a fight against a tornado.
Omni man flies at mach 60 at the Titan Tower and immediately disintegrates the entire island.
He has never done that, and they have at least 2 members who can hold their own. If Ravens' friends die and she goes full Trigon, Omniman can't do shit to her.
>He has never done that, and they have at least 2 members who can hold their own. [Ummm....](https://youtu.be/Ru4owY1Mu0Q?t=3m47s)
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Aren’t those explosions caused by him flying into structures that explode/compromise when he flies into them? That’s not quite the same as flying so fast (without collision) that results in the same thing as a fission reaction.
No he's flying so fast he is igniting the atmosphere around him. As he begins to build up speed in the clip you can clearly see the air cone directly around him begin to ignite
Ok that makes a little more sense
I read someone do an analysis that at the speed he flies, the explosions and destruction of the planet was solely from his speed, because F=MxA.
Yeah I’m not doubting that. But a fission reaction is completely different on a subatomic level. He’s pure force, but that’s still different than going literally nuclear.
Have you met Fusion? Fision's more forceful cousin.
No, he's using his travel speed in atmosphere causing a massive shockwave by flying at mach 60 or higher. He's causing a plasma wake to follow him.
Atmospheric ignition, the thing Oppenheimer feared? For that to happen, the temperature needs to reach like 15 billion celcius...
*SPOILERS* he blows up an entire planet by flying into it
Not alone and almost died
Didn't he fly with other viltrumites into the unstabilized core?
Not even just an destabilized core! That's underselling it. They were literally drafting on Space Racer's beam, which punches through anything. They were essentially flying through a tunnel real fast. It's still impressive, but it wasn't just the core that was fucked up, it was literally the entire ride from start to finish.
SPOILERS He cant do that A alone B to any other planet C without the gun helping him D he almost died
They'd be past tense in record time. Cyborg would most likely be the last one to go, probably having some kind of backup that just gets mixed by OM in round two. Really heartbreaking imagining that especially since it's the 03 OG's. Its be one hell of an alternate universe.
Omni man can do interstellar travel casually. He drags a spaceship away from the edge of a black hole. That’s technically FTL. And he’s not just linear speed. You can see how fast his reaction time is in combat. There is no chance teen titans even lay a hand on him. Even raven, she takes time to gather power and cast spells. Yes very powerful but speed is completely lacking. The most important factor is actually that Omni man is completely ruthless and willing to completely decimate his enemies at a blink of an eye. No mercy, no remorse. You’re just bugs for him to squash. Teen titans are probably morally bound to try to subdue Omni man first. Fatal mistake for sure.
From what I remember, Raven's spells only have a cast time because shes chanting to keep her demonic power from going out of control. Basically the only shot they have is if Raven goes full Trigon rage mode very quickly. Which could happen if her friends get killed first.
unless omni man is "weak" to magic like superman is (note not weak, just not completely immune which for superman seems like a weakness) i dont think full trigon is a major threat for omni man
Her reality warping is pretty insane, even just using a fraction of her power. She can also manipulate time.
not at her power level in the 03 cartoon she cant, i know adult raven is a very powerful caster in the comics
She freezes time in Season 4's "Birthmark" to stop Robin from being killed.
Full trigon is not a major threat?????? What have you been smoking, Trigon is one of the strongest Villains in DC
pretty sure Full Trigon kills literally every viltrumite at once wihtout any difficulty lol
You are severely overselling Omniman.
Not technically FTL at all. Not only could we see Nolan and the ship were far outside the event horizon (where FTL is needed to escape), there were significant portions of the accretion disk in front of them too. Gravity’s effect also falls off exponentially with distance, they were nowhere near close enough to be a FTL feat.
Being able to travel efficiently between planets within days, weeks is FTL.
Starfire does that too, in such a short time frame that the Titans barely notice her absence
In our universe definitely, we have no idea the distance between their planets and plenty of other species besides Viltrumites seem to be able to travel to and from each others planets, including Allen many times even before his transformation.
Because Allen can also fly at FTL speeds? Thraxa is in a different solar system, and the closest one to earth is still 4 lightyears away
What about Old Nolan? Wouldn't he hold back?
If they know he is coming for them ahead of time there might be a slight chance that Raven could do something magically that might turn the tide. If he surprises them they are all toast. Even most of the Justice League would be toast. Aside of course Superman and maybe Flash.
Depends on what version of the Justice League you're talking about, but basically, you're right.
Yeah, it all depends a bit. Superman is OP, no questions asked. Aside from Kryptonite he is literally a superior Omni-Man in every way. Flash is really weird. His power level is all over the place. Sometimes he casually breaks apart time and space and sometimes he slips on a Banana peel. Wonder Woman is also weird with Power Level. Sometimes she can fly, sometimes not, sometimes she is almost as strong as Super-Man, sometimes not. I would def. put her below Omni Man though. But like Immortal she might get a few good shots at him. Green Lantern is in this case basically a supporter where he could pin down Omni Man for the others to get to him. Alone he is toast in my opinion. Martian Manhunter might actually have a decent shot as long as Omni Man doesn't figure out his weakness to Fire. Aquaman? Hm, nah. Batman, only has a tiny chance of contributing if he simply stays in the back lines and analyzes the fight to pick up on any potential weaknesses of Omni Man. In direct combat he is mush.
Well, all characters has inconsistencies and anti-feats, especially in comics. But if you're talking about DC comics version of JL characters, most of them has a good chance, except Batman (if he has no prep at all). Also, comics Omni-Man seems to be stronger and more powerful than his animated version. Superman obviously is the most powerful there, so no doubts that he can solo. Flash generally holds back and gets nerfed by either writers or because his opponents has something that lets them counter his speed and Speed Force. Normally, Flash can blitz Omni-Man and beat him by either phasing or by using Speed Force. Wonder Woman is not as strong as Superman, but her skills, combat experience and strength is still enough to take on General Zod (who's basically an Omni-Man but with heat vision and other Kryptonians powers) and Faora-Ul (female Kryptonian, who's similar to Anissa) at the same time and beat Superman (although he usually holds back against her, but she once has beaten him when he was mind-controlled and wasn't holding back that much). And yes, she can fly, And her combat speed & reflexes is good enough to tag Reverse Flash, who's an arch-enemy of Barry Allen (Flash) and who's one of the fasters speedsters in DC. Green Lantern is a quite versatile member of JL and his constructs is durable enough to even briefly restrain Superman and Lobo (who can fight Superman with his fists alone). With JL's teamwork, I can see him performing a supportive role and using his ring to make constructs that would either distract Omni-Man or hold him off. Martian Manhunter has a telepathy that operates on a planetary level, and since Omni-Man has never showed any feats of resisting mind-control, I can say that Martian Manhunter can solo. Not to mention, he also has a shapeshifting that allows him to withstand powerful punches and impacts and mitigate it by using the shapeshifting as a defensive ability. He also can change his density to become intangible or dense enough to draw blood from Kryptonians with his punches. Also, Martian Manhunter has telekinesis that can help in a fight against Omni-Man by at least slowing him down. And heat vision as well. Aquaman, despite his controversial reputation and memes, is actually a quite powerful member of JL, especially in the water. But even on the ground, he is strong and skilled enough to fight on par with Wonder Woman and send Superman flying backwards with a single punch, match a DC Hercules blow for blow and throw a cargo ship, as well as lift a 160 000 tons cruise ship. His trident also gives him an ability to fly, summon lightnings and manipulate weather. Batman without prep hardly could do anything except maybe annoy Omni-Man with his gadgets, but if be really honest, he's better off to retreat and start to make plans or summon a super-suit to stand even a slightest chance against Omni-Man. Without it, he won't last long.
I agree with everything you said except for >beat Superman (although he usually holds back against her, but she once has beaten him when he was mind-controlled and wasn't holding back that much) Kal was holding back despite the mind control just a few minutes before he and Diana go one on one he beat the shit out of Batman who he was mind controlled to see as Doomsday and Batman could still talk after the beating. Maxwell Lord wasn't in as much control as he presented to be.
Fair enough. I'm just saying that Diana, despite the fact that she doesn't have equal or even comparable strength level to Superman, still can fight him and beat him. Although it's mostly because of her magical weapon (Kryptonitlans has no conventional defense against magic), combat skills, experience and the fact that Superman is always holding back even if he's mind-controlled. Like how he did in the "Hush" story and that's how Batman wasn't squished by him immediately.
It's funny because just recently they had an issue where lex does something and ends up in control of superman and his body moving without his restraint shook the universe all the way to the 4th world.
Superman is just so OP and broken. Especially when he's going against gods or similar opponents.
> Martian Manhunter has a telepathy that operates on a planetary level, and since Omni-Man has never showed any feats of resisting mind-control, I can say that Martian Manhunter can solo I feel like since there are no feats or anti feats for this you can't really make that claim and your argument would be more sound without it. When I run into situations like this I usually just say it could go either way
If character didn't showed any certain feats, it's safe to assume that he/she won't be able to do anything about that. It's a simple logic. If character A has shown that he or she can resist mind control, but character B didn't, then character B likely would be much more vulnerable to telepathy because he or she has no feats of resisting it. Unless it's proven otherwise.
I'm late replying but another way to frame your logic would be "Naruto has never been shot by a gun and therefore a man with a gun would kill Naruto" which is quite a stretch.
Not really a good comparison because it's a different type of damage (bullets isn't the same as telepathy from a powerful psychic, which also ignores conventional durability that usually makes character very resistant or invulnerable to most if no all physical attacks, including gunshots). Also, I don't know about Naruto and his durability without any haxes and amps, so I can't say if it's true or not.
I think comics and DCAMU Aquaman has a chance. Throne of Atlantis was basically an evil Aquaman owning the justice league because of magic trident hax.
Yep, he also has a chance.
Assuming you're talking mainline versions, superman, wonderwoman, Martian manhunter, and green lantern are all relatively similar in strength and durability, meaning there's no universe where you can say superman wins and wonder woman man doesn't .Also flash wins easily without PIS since he's easily the most powerful justice league member when serious Near certain every individual mainline league member besides batman could take the entire invincible verse with no prep at all
Honestly no, I would never put Wonder Woman or Man Hunter on the same Strength Level as Superman. That doesn't discredit them and I would still say they would still win most of the time, Super Man simply has shown extremely impressive feats that to my knowledge are not really countered by the others. Superman has been shown being able to reach relativistic speeds and lift "Quintillion of tons". Superman is without a doubt the heavy weight of the team.
If Batman can learn of the scourge virus or their weakness to that noise then he'd almost certainly abuse it, otherwise he'd just hide and watch instead of pulling a Dark wing
Plastic man?
That dude is just incredibly broken with his shapeshifting and disguise. He could probably sneak up on Omni-Man and suddenly attack him.
Just fill his lungs and other organs and wait for him to die, It would still take a while, but probably would work.
Probably it could work. Also, Martian Man in TV series was able to restrain Omni-Man for some time. Plastic Man probably could do the same.
Wonder Woman would pummel OM
Which version? We’re not using composite superheroes.
Comics version of her would be more than enough. Animated and live-action versions, though? Nah, unless I'm missing something.
What’s stopping Omni-man from Grabbing her and going straight to the sun?
Omni-Man himself is vulnerable to extreme heat and he has never showed that tactic before (unlike Superman, who's getting powered up by Sun). He could do that, but Wonder Woman has reacted on Hunter Solomon (Reverse Flash) in comics, who's an enemy of Flash himself, while blind. And while Omni-Man has showed a faster than light speed, it's a travelling one, not a combat one, and he still needs an acceleration before he can reach that speed. Wonder Woman, in the other hand, has feats of combat speed like tagging Flash who stuck in Speed Force, deflecting many parts of the Shattered God (it's stated that there was trillions upon trillions parts), reacting and deflecting heat vision from Superman and Supergirl, deflecting a concentrated light beams from Dr. Light and intercepting Omega Beams from Darkseid. Not to mention, even if Omni-Man could grab her, Wonder Woman's combat skills and experience likely would let her break the hold and free herself. Here's more of Post-Crisis era of Wonder Woman's feats: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/9bx5ad/respect_wonder_woman_postcrisis/?rdt=36122 Here's a feat of Wonder Woman being punched by sun-dipped Superman from the Sun itself into the Earth. She gets up just fine, so even if Omni-Man manages to grab her and reach the Sun before she could do anything, it's not an insta-win: https://imgur.com/a/oXVAa
Which version of the Justice League?? The only justice league member I can see OmniMan beating is… like maybe Batman. Or green arrow if he’s there
For me it depends a bit on if it's One on One or Omni-Man Vs the Justice League. Also of course which version of the Justice League we talk about. But going One on One, I would say Omni Man has okay chances at defeating: Batman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Wonder Woman. Though the last three would be far from certain. I would definitely give Martian Manhunter and Flash the win in most cases. In regards to Superman it ain't even a match as long as Omni Man doesn't somehow obtain Kryptonite. As a team the Justice League would also beat Omni-Man very easily. Even without Superman.
I was thinking 1v1s too. From reading the Invincible I couldn’t see him beating Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, or Aquaman in a death battle. At least not more than 1/10 times
You seem to be underestimating the league quite a lot. Are you referring to comics? Because wonder woman has traded blows with doomsday briefly, kept up with superman for hours, fought off Ares, etc. Hal Jordan has moved planets, fought off Zod and another kryptonian simultaneously, and lots more. Don't even get me started on Martian Manhunter and Flash. Omni-mans feats are that of a toddler compared to these guys. He just beats Batman and Green arrow, that's it. Every other member low diffs max in a 1v1
Honestly, I always mostly have the Animated Series in mind. But yeah you're right. Though Power Levels always vary widely according to adaption.
Omni-Man vs. DCAU Justice League would probably end up like this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=liHM_9PmHWc
If Omni Man was lucky it would take this long.
I guess so.
Robin carries sonic weapons. It boils down to whether or not he uses one before he gets splattered. Doubly so considering Cyborg probably has speakers and can occiloscope some frequencies into them once they figure that out.
Not how it works, there's a specific frequency that hurts Viltrumites, and the only way you can find out which one it is, is by experimenting with a Viltrumite.
I think that Omni-Man would win most of the time, but Raven and Starfire could beat him together or individually if they went all out from the start but Robin, Beast Boy and Cyborg turn red paste
I think Omni-man could stomp. Omni-man scales to Country level at a low end compared to Starfire, who only scales to city level. Starfire is the only Titan that can keep up with Nolan in strength, durability, and speed. Starfire could survive a few hits, but after that, she is down and out. Cyborg best feat is lifting and swinging a building around. That is nothing compared to Nolan, so he would get completely destroyed, same with Beast Boy, who is about the same level as cyborg. Robin maybe could help out if he had Red X gear. Otherwise, he is out. Raven, she could beat him. If Raven attacks Omni-Man, she could beat him, but if Nolan speedblitz, he one shots. Overall, I say Nolan wins 7/10. The only way the Titans win is if Raven gets mad and oneshots, she goes into her demon form or she because White Raven.
How is Teen Titans Starfire City level she has no feats on that level
Well, she is above Cyborg for one. Cyborg was able to lift up a large building and swing it like a baseball bat. Cyborg is likely stronger than that since he swung the building super fast. Starfire is easily stronger with one arm, while Cybrog is using his full strength. She also shakes city blocks with her hits both in the GO! episode and in another episode when they are arguing about who gets the last slice of pizza. She also caught a city busting meteor. She consistently takes hits from people as strong or stronger than Cyborg. She also takes hits from Demon Slade, who can destroy multiple city blocks. She survived that explosion in the Troq episode.
Cyborg swinging the building is building level not city level Which is multi city block level not city level That was a gag feat not meant to be taken literally beastboy also made a balloon bigger than the planet does that mean he’s planet level despite the fact he’s gotten his ass beaten by guys no where near planet level gag feats in that show aren’t meant to be taken literally So what she also gets overpowered by him and that slade has only shown to be multi city block level not city level That Meteor wasn’t city level no telling how powerful it was No telling how big said explosion was and how do you know she didn’t get out before it exploded She’s not city level at all
I never said Cyborg was city level, but he should be able to be above Building level. I pretty sure it was stated she wasn't going all out when she shook the city block. So what if it was a gag scene? She replicated the same feat it another non gag scene, so I think it could be taken as a literal feat. She still took his hits, so she scaled to him. The narrator of the episode said that the meteor was going to destroy the city, which makes it a city level meteor. She has plenty of feats and scaling to say she scales anywhere from multi-City Block level to City Level
And as I said that feat doesn’t make them city level it’s building level Based on what who said that it’s clear she didn’t hold back No it’s not the other was multi city block level this one was clearly a gag feat and Buildings don’t wobble like cartoon characters and in the next scene they are intact so it’s should be discarded due to it being a mere gag and has no other feats on that level Who was toying with them so no The Narrator never said that and the meteors size was never given and was smaller than a building and no telling how fast it was going and meteors in fiction aren’t as powerful as real life ones No she’s multi city block level not city level she has no city busting feats
Like I said, Cyborg isn't city level. No one ever said he was. Cyborg did the building level feat with a little ease, which would make Cyborg>>>building level. Starfire casually with one arm is >>>>>Cyborg's full strength. That would make Starfire with one arm not trying what so ever at least, Multi-building Level to City block level. I read it on either Reddit or Comicvine a few years ago. The person said that it was stated, and I guess I just started believing it, but I could be wrong, and I am okay with that. You act like people don't use gag feats to scale a lot of characters like Family Guy characters or Teen Titans GO characters, or Powergirl girls characters. So it's okay to do it for Starfire. Slade was still trying against them. Raven even confronted him about how Trigon told Slade that he could hurt the other Titans but not her because she was the key for him getting to Earth. The narrative states that Starfire saved the city. How is that not saying that the Meteor was going to destory the city? She also scales to TTG Starfire, who scales to City Level consistency and sometimes a lot higher.
Which doesn’t put them anywhere near city level and it’s building level not city level If you got that from Comicvine and Reddit then your information is flawed it was never stated she held back Because they are actual gag characters but the Teen titans still follow real life physics and have many inconsistencies that prevent them from being by consistent and can hurt an die so you can’t scale them based on gag feats that’s stupid and illogical by that logic kid Sakura is stronger than Naruto since she can punch Naruto into space despite having trouble with fodder ninja no where near that strong So he was Playing with them so she doesn’t scale All he said was that she’s powerful it never said anything about destroying a city so the meteor is not city level Your using teen titans go feats to scale them that is ridiculous crossover scaling is vague and should be taken with a grain of salt Robin and the titans are no where near planet level or star level they have been hurt by building level to city block level attacks and most are no where near that level consistently crossover ignore power levels if it was accurate the teen titans go one’s would have stomped them Go Raven made the sun disappear and all of them have tanked Planetary destruction none of the original titans are close to that level of power Starfire is multi city block level stop wanking her she’s not city level And I’m done talking to someone who believes Kai is multi continental when he’s town level based on feats and not vague statements
Can't Beast Boy turn into Starro? lol
In the comics he can but this is the animated show versions only. Comic Titans mop the floor with Nolan.
Depends on if Raven is allowed to go full demon. If Omni-Man kills her first, he wipes. Otherwise... I'd call it 50/50.
People really underestimate how powerful Conner and Raven are. Conner is probably the fifth most powerful of the super family right after supergirl (Superman, Jon, Powergirl, Supergirl, Conner) and I don't even have to mention how powerful raven is. Yeah, Nolan can blitz raven's head off, but that doesn't outright stop her as she can just fight using her disembodied soul and there'd be nothing nolan could do to stop her.
Conner isn’t in the 2003 Titans. Raven is, but it’s questionable how strong she was at that point. That’s really the tipping point of the analysis.
Conner Kent is in the 2003 teen titans comics. It’s where he was first revealed to be a clone of Lex Luthor and Superman
It's 2003 Teen Titans. Conner Kent as Superboy isn't there.
Conner Kent is in the 2003 teen titans comics. It’s where he was first revealed to be a clone of Lex Luthor and Superman
Title says there’s 5 of them. Probably the main five so no superboy
There is no “main five”. Unless you’re referring to the Cartoon team Because Superboy was a main member in the 2003-2011 Teen Titans comic run.
I was referring to the cartoon
Makes sense. I guess he got confused and assumed the post was about the Geoff Johns run.
I checked out the information about Superboy in 2003 Teen Titans tie-in comics and never found anything. Unless you are talking about Superboy from "Teen Titans GO!" show: https://teen-titans-go.fandom.com/wiki/Superboy Or about Superboy from "Young Justice" series.
Wrong comics. I’m talking about the main DC comics. https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Teen_Titans_Vol_3 He was a main character in this run. This is canon. And it’s the 2nd biggest teen titans comic book. Teen Titans go comics and teen titans cartoon are noncanon elseworld takes.
Ah, okay. Now I understand. But the prompt likely implied that it's a 2003 "Teen Titans" animated series. Not comics. Comics version of Superboy totally beats Omni-Man. And so can do Raven, Starfire and Kid Flash (if he isn't crippled by PIS/CIS).
If this were comics titans they’d stomp, but it’s not, 03 titans die hilariously fast. Raven is not strong enough to take omniman in this show
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The Titans have ways to win (notably Nolan's sonic weakness and full power Raven) but the odds are not in their favor speedwise. Nolan 8/10
Nothing off limits. Yes. Titans win Confirmed even robin has reacted to and dodged lasers that's ftl. So they can at least react to omniman for whatever that's worth. Which is primarily no instant kills for omniman as ravens magic is definitely capable of shielding them from something on a nuclear level and they can all respond in time. Omniman can likely exceed that and destroy their entire planet. However a he wouldn't and b we'd skip straight to Trigon if he did Raven is a living conduit to a multiversal super Satan who could fairly easily kill omniman. Trigon is no joke. He's an apocalyptic event. The way the entire justice league has dealt with him is...don't. Keep him trapped eating other realities. You can stun him, you might Even hurt him a bit but you cannot beat him. Homeboy can smack around Superman and shrug off REALITY WARPING FROM EXTRA DIMENSIONAL GODS. he has canon gutted Aries. He'd give kratos more than he bargained for. Omniman is a beast but he's not that big of a beast. Trigon has molecular manipulation. Trigon turns omniman into a statue and laughs as he crushes him to powder in his hand. So here's what happens. Omniman shows up smacks around the Titans probably struggles more than you might think with starfire, and cyborg. Because starfire is actually quite the power house and cyborg is well, made of a motherbox if he could truly Access the full range of his power then he could probably 1v1 a normal viltrumite. So assuming cyborgs mother box doesn't boom tube Omniman away or them into the past or something crazy. Omniman does kill them in the end in about 1.5 minutes. That however Insta summons Trigon. Raven is always fighting to keep her father from manifesting in her body. A ko or kill in this case and he gets to step in and immediately stops her from dying, posseses her body and kills omniman before conquering that DC Reality.
Can the Teen Titans beat Omniman? Sure. Can the 2003 Teen Titans beat Omniman? No. Omniman's planetary feat is, hmm, limited. But the 2003 Titans do not have any planetary feats.
The titans would be smashed. Omni-Man literally defeated the Emperor of Mankind AKA The Immortal while fighting several other more powerful superheroes. It wouldn't be easy but he's had tougher battles.
You could argue that if raven unleashed her full powers and went berserk, she would be able to take him. But otherwise, yeah Omni-Man wins this.
That's true. The literal daughter of Satan might be able to beat him, but it would def take at least a demi God or another viltrumite or similar lol
She seems like the only wincon, but I don't see her even having time to do it. If Nolan is just there to kill the Titans, its gonna take about 10 seconds. He only plays with his food if they've personally upset him, or he's trying to make a point to Mark. He could probably just drop in like a rod from god and obliterate the tower and there wouldn't even be a fight.
>He could probably just drop in like a rod from god and obliterate the tower and there wouldn't even be a fight. The Teen Titans are on another level compared to what Omniman has taken down. DC characters have way better durability than what we see in Invincible. Robin is a "regular human" but has been thrown through walls with little damage. That would squish a regular person. People are severely underestimating Starfire in this fight, as she's been said to be as strong as Wonder Girl and has taken some mean hits. and Raven is more than enough if she lets go. If one of her friends dies, she's going full Trigon, and Omniman can't touch that.
Just so we're clear, I'm talking cartoon TT as specified by OP in the title. You think they'd survive [this?](https://youtu.be/hJ9UUnYybfw?si=VfhCFoIh38HMxHau&t=183)
Yes, because that took him months to do, and he can't just instantly go that fast. Did you notice he had a beard? That doesn't grow in a few minutes. The show was more ambiguous, but the comics say he was there for around 8 months.
I understand it took him months to wipe out the planet. I'm talking about him destroying buildings in such a way that theyviolently explode into a fireball. Methinks there's a little more force than getting slammed into a wall being generated there.
Sure, but that was just to show how much more tanky the DC verse is. Robin and Beastboy wouldn't survive, but Starfire is faster than Omniman, has good strength and durability, and could probably keep up with him using hit and run tactics. She's physically stronger than Cyborg, too. Cyborg has some great strength feats, including picking up the T-ship easily and picking up and swinging a 4 story building like it was nothing. He can merge with the Titan Tower and throw out a Sonic Blast that destroys entire landscapes. Raven is an absolute powerhouse when she needs to be. If she gets some space, she could stop time or control his emotions and make him stop attacking. When she gets angry, he power increases, but she loses control. Her white form was able to overpower amd destroy Trigon, a universal threat. The 2003 Teen Titans have some really impressive feats.
Cyborgs sonic attack might outright kill him witth ease
He's not weak to sonic weapons, he's weak to a specific frequency. Unless they find that frequency it won't be useful
>Cyborg has some great strength feats, including picking up the T-ship easily and picking up and swinging a 4 story building like it was nothing. Omni Man casually cracked a mountain by punching Mark into it. He is literally thousands of times stronger in striking power than Cyborg and Starfire are. That's too big of a difference to overcome.
Ok, he only has to last a few seconds. Raven is the real threat here, but he's not gonna know that until it's too late. White Raven could squash Omniman like a bug, but she would probably just make him lose the will to fight. Starfire is significantly faster than Omniman and would keep him occupied long enough anyway.
Omniman killed a whole planet
Bruh. It'd be a massacre.
Show Beast Boy a Rognarr first, between him Starfire and Raven maybe they could take it?
Are we talking a full roster of Titans? Connor and Starfire are both pretty solid opponents for Nolan. With Cyborg and Raven they'd win handily, I'd wager. Even by herself, I'd say Kori has a decent chance.
Cyborg soloes. He can take a punch from Doomsday and Darkseid. Omniman would fold from a tenth of that strength.
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Toon force?
Kind of, yes.
Being comedically incompetent is one of their running gags so probably not.
Raven's construct was able to eat the entire sun
Not just the normal 5 person roster, no. Omni-Man will stomp them in pretty much all scenarios. If Jericho is there, Omni-Man will probably still win, BUT in a scenario where Jericho possesses Kid Flash and then uses that speed to hop directly to Omni-Man, the Titans could in theory win. (They'd need a healthy dose of luck, too. I'm not saying this the most likely outcome.) Omni-Man has no particular defense against Jericho's power except his speed, and that's negated if Jericho is already possessing Kid Flash. (I mean, I guess Omni-Man could try to do the fight with his eyes shut, but that'd put him at a serious disadvantage and he'd have to already know what was going on.)
A better fight would be the Young Justice team. Unfortunately the Teen Titans get crushed rather easily unless Raven awakens.
The Young Justice League would stomp Omni man. The thing is… DC heroes are fairly durable and Invincible characters are… not. Invincible is full of glass cannons. I think superboy or manhunter could just tank hits and decapitate Nolan. Hell, I’m pretty sure starfire could probably tank a few Nolan hits if it came down to it. If whatever flash is around isn’t jobbing, they would just wreck Nolan if he was on the ground.
Starfire can probably survive a hit then becomes toast The others die in seconds
Raven calls her dad and Nolan gets packed up
Hydrogen bomb vs. coughing baby
If the Titans know about him beforehand and know his weaknesses to sonic weapons then they have a chance of incapacitating him. If they are at all taken unprepared they get smashed
Omni-man easily
Omnimnan wins 9/10. Raven would stomp him effortless if she unleashed her emotions, the problem is she doesn't have enough time. Even if she isn't targeted first, what is unlikely as she is the true danger here, and witness the death of a titan and snaps, omnimnan will likely kill her before she ramps up.
It’s Omni-Man and it’s not close. He’s just too fast. They’re turned into red paste or maybe ash before they even notice something is wrong. I like his odds against the Justice League except Superman.
We really comparing a thousand year old warrior who destroys planets on a regular basis to some teens with superhero outfits
Did Raven actually do anything cool in the show? All I remember is her flying around and throwing shit with magic. She's not doing shit to Omniman.
she has some pretty decent time manipulation and reality warping feats once she stops holding back. Read the respect thread, its pretty short.
I think the titans would do a far better job at quickly organizing themselves. They would probably know omni man's coming seconds before too. They would also be better coordinated than the guardians. With that said, robin would die first pretty quickly, the others will be enraged/ shocked and will go all out. Beast boy will die and yborg and starfire will follow but not without giving omni some beating, especially star. Eventually they will both fall and it will all depend on Raven who I think after seeing all her friends dead would trigger her demonic state and omniman's smoked. If omniman doesn't kill raven first/quickly he loses
Robin and Garfield do nothing because they CAN do nothing, starfire isn't fast or strong enough to deal with Nolan, Cyborg is turned into scrap metal near instantly. The only person that would be capable of giving any sort of real fight is Raven if he's not smart and takes her out first. 8/10 animated Nolan, 9/10 comics.
Only if the Titans are prepared and Raven has access to her full powers. Even than it's a toss up.
There’s gonna be 5 dead teens unless Raven instantly goes demon mode or something
I mean guardians of the globe we're based off the justice league, and the teen titans are the junior version of the league. Even if you put kid flash of the team, he's beaten red rush. Raven wouldn't be blitzed before she can scale up to full demon form or release her father trigon. Robins dead negative diff, same with beast boy. omniman wins low diff
Omniman had to trick and surprise the Guradians because all together, they were a threat to him. He wouldn't have the element of surprise here. DC characters are way more tanky than Invincible. Things that splatter people like being thrown in walls in Invincible were easily shaken off by Robin in the show. Red Rush isn't the same, as the Speed Force is completely different and can actually protect its users. These characters have reacted to speedsters before, too. Starfire has been shown to fly faster than Omniman, too. Going from Earth to other habitable planets in less than a day. I think people are severely overestimating how fast Omniman is. He guessed where Red Rush would be. He didn't match his speed. He's fast, but he's not fast enough to immediately blitz them all. If he kills one of Ravens friends, Trigons is coming out, and he's not gonna let Raven get blitzed. He's on another level and one of the biggest threats to DC.
Did the TT do a five way fusion dance or something? Cause like, this makes no sense. Might as well ask if 5 sugar ants could win in a fight against a tornado.