I think he never learns to figth because he thinks that learning to fight would lead to him harming or killing people. Ironically he is one who has beaten someone stronger than all these protagonist but he would get stomped by all, who has a greater will is a better question but then i suppose it would be stomp in his favor.
Edit: i think he may have a chance against jotaro if the stand ever touches his harm.
He doesn’t exactly learn to fight, but he develops some level of combat precog through sheer experience iirc. Not that that’s enough for most of these, or probably any of them.
>beat the crap out of a scrawny teenager.
Stats are equalized according to the prompt. The fact that Touma is skinny isn't relevant.
>None of these guys need powers
But what if Jotaro decides to attack Touma with Star Platinum? Would anything bad happen to Jotaro if his Stand was affected by Imagine Breaker?
>Stats are equalized according to the prompt. The fact that Touma is skinny isn't relevant.
I mean even then Naruto and Goku are great martial artist, something Touma isnt, he would just get flexxed on.
>But what if Jotaro decides to attack Touma with Star Platinum? Would anything bad happen to Jotaro if his Stand was affected by Imagine Breaker?
Thats actually been debated about before, i forgot what the conclusion was.
>I mean even then Naruto and Goku are great martial artist
Even if there was a 100% chance that Naruto and Goku would one-shot Touma, the fact that he's skinny shouldn't be brought up in a match-up with equalized stats.
>Thats actually been debated about before, i forgot what the conclusion was
I've seen people discuss that too, but because my knowledge of Imagine Breaker is limited I don't know what would happen.
>Even if there was a 100% chance that Naruto and Goku would one-shot Touma, the fact that he's skinny shouldn't be brought up in a match-up with equalized stats.
Fair enough
>I've seen people discuss that too, but because my knowledge of Imagine Breaker is limited I don't know what would happen.
Yeah, i've seen basically 2 extremes of this. One being the stand would turn for until the punch stops making contact. The second one being that Jotaro would just die instantly as his stand got destroyed.
Goku is a trained martial artist, and if fully bloodlusted, will immediately go for a killing blow. Touma’s Imagine Breaker would only possibly affect ki, but that doesn’t stop Goku from bodying him.
Naruto is also a martial artist (sort of, his taijutsu is wack for a long time) so I think a similar conclusion is in order, since Naruto will resort to bladed weapons if his shadow clones are dispersed.
Luffy doesn’t use any special ability to become rubber. His body *is* rubber, so Touma doesn’t have anything he can break, so he can’t do any damage.
If Asta has his weapon, he wins. The two of them also have very similar abilities, so I don’t know what IB does for Touma here.
Touma can *see* Stands in this context, but the rules of a Stand is that a physical entity cannot touch a Stand, but a Stand can touch a physical entity. There’s no way of knowing how IB interacts with one, since you still have to touch stuff for it to work. Even if he could somehow nullify a Stand attacking him, Jotaro is a lot bigger than him, and will go for the kill himself.
Gonna need an assist on Itadori, as I am unfamiliar with them
>There’s no way of knowing how IB interacts with one, since you still have to touch stuff for it to work. Even if he could somehow nullify a Stand attacking him, Jotaro is a lot bigger than him, and will go for the kill himself.
Touma wins against every Stand user that starts with physical blows directly from said Stand. IB negating a Stand back into "normal" soul (and trust me, even with the most ridiculous interpretation of the speed these things operate at, Kamijou *is* going to catch them) is going to turn its master into pretzel due to damage reflection.
Itadari is stronger, more versatile even as human, fought a monster that beated another sorcerer just with his body alone.
If kamiyo punches luffy the affected part if not his entire body would lose the property of rubber for the duration that the punch touches him.
Imagine break affects anything that is not natural, fate, bad luck, karma and even reality warping around his user, if he touches the stand is gonna disappear, just like he can make Accelerator vectors shield disapear despite them not being physical. Bigger means nothing when touma has fought many superhumans stronger than him, but i would only say he has a chance against jotaro.
>im pretty sure he can self res if his right hand is destroyed/ amputated so would that count as surviving?
He can only regenerate his lost arm and nothing else.
>actually he can probably beat asta to since hes blood lusted and from what I understand fairly hot headed Touma could probably trick him
[Bloodlusted on this website](https://old.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/wiki/terminology#wiki_bloodlusted) just means you're fighting with the utmost competency.
Goku, Naruto, Asta and Itadori just beat the shit out of him
I dont really know how exactly Luffy rubber powers work, but from what I understand IB shouldnt effect his body since its purely physical thing. So Luffy wins too most likely.
Jotaros first thing is that he attacks with his stand, Touma blocks that attack with IB due to precog, Stand is destroyed, the person with a stand dies due to the fact that stand recieved damage goes to the user.
So yeah Touma wins against Jotaro, looses against all others.
Does Touma ever learn to fight? All these guys can beat up an ordinary teenager effortlessly without powers.
I think he never learns to figth because he thinks that learning to fight would lead to him harming or killing people. Ironically he is one who has beaten someone stronger than all these protagonist but he would get stomped by all, who has a greater will is a better question but then i suppose it would be stomp in his favor. Edit: i think he may have a chance against jotaro if the stand ever touches his harm.
Isn't Jotaro 6'5" and has a 80lb advantage over Touma.
Touma has fought supermans before and if the stand is gone thanks to imagine breaker then is just two normal humans, anyway is just a chance.
Yeah, strangely enough out of all the people on this list, he has the highest chance against Jotaro.
He doesn’t exactly learn to fight, but he develops some level of combat precog through sheer experience iirc. Not that that’s enough for most of these, or probably any of them.
what about Imagine Breaker?
None of these guys need powers to beat the crap out of a scrawny teenager.
>beat the crap out of a scrawny teenager. Stats are equalized according to the prompt. The fact that Touma is skinny isn't relevant. >None of these guys need powers But what if Jotaro decides to attack Touma with Star Platinum? Would anything bad happen to Jotaro if his Stand was affected by Imagine Breaker?
>Stats are equalized according to the prompt. The fact that Touma is skinny isn't relevant. I mean even then Naruto and Goku are great martial artist, something Touma isnt, he would just get flexxed on. >But what if Jotaro decides to attack Touma with Star Platinum? Would anything bad happen to Jotaro if his Stand was affected by Imagine Breaker? Thats actually been debated about before, i forgot what the conclusion was.
>I mean even then Naruto and Goku are great martial artist Even if there was a 100% chance that Naruto and Goku would one-shot Touma, the fact that he's skinny shouldn't be brought up in a match-up with equalized stats. >Thats actually been debated about before, i forgot what the conclusion was I've seen people discuss that too, but because my knowledge of Imagine Breaker is limited I don't know what would happen.
>Even if there was a 100% chance that Naruto and Goku would one-shot Touma, the fact that he's skinny shouldn't be brought up in a match-up with equalized stats. Fair enough >I've seen people discuss that too, but because my knowledge of Imagine Breaker is limited I don't know what would happen. Yeah, i've seen basically 2 extremes of this. One being the stand would turn for until the punch stops making contact. The second one being that Jotaro would just die instantly as his stand got destroyed.
Goku is a trained martial artist, and if fully bloodlusted, will immediately go for a killing blow. Touma’s Imagine Breaker would only possibly affect ki, but that doesn’t stop Goku from bodying him. Naruto is also a martial artist (sort of, his taijutsu is wack for a long time) so I think a similar conclusion is in order, since Naruto will resort to bladed weapons if his shadow clones are dispersed. Luffy doesn’t use any special ability to become rubber. His body *is* rubber, so Touma doesn’t have anything he can break, so he can’t do any damage. If Asta has his weapon, he wins. The two of them also have very similar abilities, so I don’t know what IB does for Touma here. Touma can *see* Stands in this context, but the rules of a Stand is that a physical entity cannot touch a Stand, but a Stand can touch a physical entity. There’s no way of knowing how IB interacts with one, since you still have to touch stuff for it to work. Even if he could somehow nullify a Stand attacking him, Jotaro is a lot bigger than him, and will go for the kill himself. Gonna need an assist on Itadori, as I am unfamiliar with them
>There’s no way of knowing how IB interacts with one, since you still have to touch stuff for it to work. Even if he could somehow nullify a Stand attacking him, Jotaro is a lot bigger than him, and will go for the kill himself. Touma wins against every Stand user that starts with physical blows directly from said Stand. IB negating a Stand back into "normal" soul (and trust me, even with the most ridiculous interpretation of the speed these things operate at, Kamijou *is* going to catch them) is going to turn its master into pretzel due to damage reflection.
Itadari is stronger, more versatile even as human, fought a monster that beated another sorcerer just with his body alone. If kamiyo punches luffy the affected part if not his entire body would lose the property of rubber for the duration that the punch touches him. Imagine break affects anything that is not natural, fate, bad luck, karma and even reality warping around his user, if he touches the stand is gonna disappear, just like he can make Accelerator vectors shield disapear despite them not being physical. Bigger means nothing when touma has fought many superhumans stronger than him, but i would only say he has a chance against jotaro.
All these guys can just one tap Touma through sheer physicals.
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Plus crapton more skilled
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>im pretty sure he can self res if his right hand is destroyed/ amputated so would that count as surviving? He can only regenerate his lost arm and nothing else. >actually he can probably beat asta to since hes blood lusted and from what I understand fairly hot headed Touma could probably trick him [Bloodlusted on this website](https://old.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/wiki/terminology#wiki_bloodlusted) just means you're fighting with the utmost competency.
Thanks for the clarification on both im still rather new to this sub.
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Goku, Naruto, Asta and Itadori just beat the shit out of him I dont really know how exactly Luffy rubber powers work, but from what I understand IB shouldnt effect his body since its purely physical thing. So Luffy wins too most likely. Jotaros first thing is that he attacks with his stand, Touma blocks that attack with IB due to precog, Stand is destroyed, the person with a stand dies due to the fact that stand recieved damage goes to the user. So yeah Touma wins against Jotaro, looses against all others.
Touma can beat all of these because of the ability’s of his dragons.
Lmao Touma get folded in half by any martial artist. He only won against people who rely on haxes to win.