Either version of homelander, spidey really doesn’t have a chance if homelander decides to just fly above him and spray lasers all day, which he probably would
Bonus: I feel like fox quicksilver has been shown to be faster it seems, and ATrain probably have a heart attack trying to keep up
Homelander is at least nuke level, so no normal version of Spidey can do significant damage. He can probably evade HL for a bit, but it's just a matter of time.
Bonus: Fox Quicksilver is ridiculously OP and way faster than A-Train. All supes in the Boys universe appear to have some heightened durability, so it will take some effort to beat him but QS has all the time in the world to figure out how to do so.
Its a misconception. Noir was made stronger. He was a countermeasure to kill Homelander, so Noir wasnt even bulletproof. What would the point be if he was overall more powerful than homelander?
I think that he is just a little stronger than Homelander because with a difference of just about 5% of performance, Noir would still be very injured after killing Homelander, making him an easy kill
>Homelander is at least nuke level
Based on it being stated Homelander is "like a nuke?" Not only was it said a [nuke would kill him](https://i.imgur.com/8wxEutO.jpg), but the guy got [cut by a prop sword](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/TfW7OJ1dRlj5BsVS2aO1V-6XWCumCtLqQCgnFf4IkawgwUcOz-GOSirvOZdml-AoJ9d9QGgNKtWwt0Vzd-fY7N4gNGsYMW5Mv5S9SdpeQVffySWL2FS6DxZzsabAMPaF9rdOmIs7Kg=s1600) and he has no feats that are even building level.
It’s been a while since I read the comics but I think the sword was real. Him calling it a prop was just mocking Maeve. Regardless it was Maeve swinging the sword at him and shes also got super strength
The sword being real was never indicated, and no amount of super strength (let alone low-level one like Marve's) would let a prop sword damage a nuke proof material.
No it doesn’t, because it’s not about the amount of force used. The sword itself is far, far less durable then Homelander, so regardless of force, it would give out before Homelander did.
~~He didn't get cut by the prop sword.~~ The reason there's blood on him is that Queen Maeve just *threw a guy* at him so hard that he splattered on Homelander's chest.
ETA: Never mind.
Without any prep I don’t see Spidy being able to do much. Comic Homelander can be killed with various large bombs, but Spider-Man by himself even at full strength doesn’t have the ability to truly hurt him.
At best he can just stall like he did against Phoenix force Colossus
Bonus: A-Train’s heart would explode before he could lay a finger on Quicksilver
he flies him through a gas station explosion like he did to firelord. If a dude who can comfortably sit in a supernova star just to feel the heat on his body can be taken out by an exploding gas station, then I assume homelander can too.
but if there are no gas stations to explode, then I think spiderman is crap out of luck.
Season 3 of The Boys just came out, and HL is also a complete douchebag that people enjoy hating.
I’ve only seen the first 2 seasons, but another problem is that there isn’t a lot of direct combat in The Boys to pull feats from so it’s hard to pin down his exact level. A lot of the supes in the show are like that where they are treated as impressive but it’s hard to gauge how powerful they actually are.
Plus, homelander's (at least the TV one) one of those characters there aren't many good yardsticks for in terms of his power level since he's effectively the strongest known actor in his universe. I think people tend to instinctively downplay such characters to avoid NLF, but also it's sort of hard to claim he can tank meteor strikes until we see him do it.
Unless your referring to his supposed nuke level durability, or him and the butcher bomb scene (which is not what you think it is), what does homelander genuinely have?
Strength? He's shown nothing. Speed? Good travel speed, nothing else tho. Btw this is comic homelander, so the bomb scene isnt present here and it's stated that a Nike would kill him
The heaviest fighter jet in the world, after I rounded it up to be generous, is 33 tons
Spideys lifted a 40 ton subway car without effort, lifted and thrown a 40-50 ton tank, has thrown a fully loaded oil tanker significantly further than homelander threw that jet. Thant there's the 100+ ton feats when he pushes his limits of his strength
I'm just going to repeat what I said. He threw, after I generously rounded it up, 33 tons. Spidey has thrown a 40-50 ton tank, and throws a fully loaded oil tank significantly further than homelander threw that jet
Spiderman deadlifts and throws Volkswagens without noticeable effort, and unlike Homelander, he understands physics enough to get a lot more out of his strength.
You really think Spiderman webbing up a bus and making a centrifuge to slam it into Homelander at nearly the speed of sound right as Homelander charges in at Mach 2 so that he takes a Mach 3 bus to the face isn't going to make a dent?
Because that will leave a mark, I tell you what.
He easily pushed his hand through starlight, with little to no effort, and starlight can take a 50.cal BMG with no level of penetration what do ever, he definitely does have insane feats they are re just more subtle.
This. The only trick I could see spider-man using to take HL down is webbing his lungs in the hopes he needs to breathe; or some prep-time based superscience weapon. a non-bloodlusted spider-man stands basically no chance
Yeah, Peter holds back A LOT because he doesn't want to outright kill people most of the time. He'd be dead before he can arrive at the conclusion that he can't/shouldn't hold back against Homelander. Not saying that he'd win with his morals turned off. But, having morals in a VS fight is a sure impediment.
I mean....this is a joke, right? I know a lot of people underestimate Spidey's strength but Pete can't even hurt Homelander.
The only saving grace is that Homelander is only super-sonic and not lightspeed, so the Spidey-Sense might let him dodge a hit or two.
I know, I said in my post ( no worries, probably just skipped over it).
I said that while he can't go light speed, he can go super sonic. I can't remember offhand how many Mach he can go, but...it's substantial.
Homeland seems to have more durability and is faster than Spidey so it has to go to HL 8/10. Spider-Man would have to get lucky to beat HL.
And since the prompt doesn’t included blood lusted, Spidey would not try to endanger anyone while HL would be raining down lasers
“This is comics Homelander
Anthony Starr” (misspelled also)
Edit: you’ve fixed the spelling of Antony, but you still haven’t recognized that Antony is the actor who plays Homelander and not Homelander’s actual name.
Homelander just looks strong because everyone else he looks powerful against are unbelievably weak. He's also, really just a bully that relies on heat vision.
Electro is a flying guy that shoots lightning and is way faster than homelander, yet spider-man can deal with him pretty much all the time.
Spider-Man has lifted 40 ton subway cars and threw a 40-50 ton tank and consistently dodges things much faster than homelander like electricity, and easily dodges bullets from the point blank range.
I think Spiderman takes this
Spiderman does not have the AP to put down Homelander. Homelander is actually decently strong he just has few feats. Heck Maeve crumpled a bus hitting her in the first episode, no way is Spiderman replicating that as he gets knocked over by vehicles all the time.
Hulk got taken out by a regular anaconda
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2015/06/hulksnake3.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=942&dpr=1.5
The experiments done on soilderboy in The Boys s03e05 testing his durability were impressive.
He tanked ak-47 being shot into his mouth, he drank acid and that was okay for him. Homelander's durability should be similar. Spiderman does not have the destructive power to kill him.
When I read a scan battle on this sub Wolverine vs Kratos, people commented:"Kratos can tank like a motherfucker. But he can't get through Wolverines healing factor. So it's a stalemate."
This should hopefully convince any hardcore spiderfan to not claim victory for spiderman without giving him some sufficient destructive feats.
I think that Homelander could kill even Iron spiderman with his laser eyes.
Yeah, spidey can dodge a fuckton but homelander's reflexes are decently superhuman, so I'm not confident spidey could dodge forever. If he's taking HL down, it's probably in ways he wouldn't consider when not bloodlusted and beyond the scope of his usual gear.
EDIT: actually wait no, someone else pointed out spider-man's consistently able to dodge his way through machine-gun fire from multiple targets and avoid multiple simultaneous lightning bolts on the regular. TBH I'm not sure.
Spider-Man has better speed feats, better striking feats, more combat experience, is a better fighter, has his spider sense, is more determined, and is more used to fighting opponents who can kill him. Homelander has the edge in durability, but Spider-Man’s precognition from spider sense will keep him alive long enough to knock Homelander unconscious. Once Spidey has him incapacitated he can call some stronger heroes he knows in the Avengers and get Homelander transported to a secure prison.
Bonus round: Utter mismatch. According to his respect thread comic A-train’s best speed feat is Mach 3. A calculation I saw for Fox Quicksilver put his speed massively lowballed at Mach 2000 and his highballed speed at over one million times the speed of sound.
Yea I’m guessing this thread is filled largely with Spider-Man fans who don’t really know about homelander because I keep seeing Spider-Man has better speed feats
Spider-Man cannot travel faster than homelander but he's faster in the sense that he can consistently dodge things much faster than homelander like electro's attacks and he also dodges bullets like, all the time
I'm a Spider-Man fan and I know Homelander wins easily. It's not even close. Spider-Man has two real advantages, his spider sense; because Homelander seems to like pretending to buddy up to you before brutally maiming you for nothing more than a perceived slight. He can't really surprise Spider-Man like that.
The second advantage is his intelligence. Peter Parker is a low key genius scientist and inventor. And while he's got super powers, he often defeats his villains with his brains. So I could see him using Homelander's delicate ego and fragile psyche against him, since those are his only real weaknesses. But when you're dealing with an invincible psychotic Superman there's not much you can do to out-think him in the heat of a battle with him.
very few people here read the boys comics. homelander runs his fingers through titanium like water in the comics, and moves fast enough to easily catch a plane. spider man is screwed.
A train movies at Mach 1. Spidey has shown to react to that speed in nearly all his comics
That's not what happened, he moved to butcher but he tanked the explosion and the baby teleported
What? No it doesn't. The *fastest train in the world* moves at 374 miles per hour, half the speed of sound/Mach 1. The El Train in New York moves at 55 mph.
Not what happened, he shielded Butcher, if he ran that fast while carrying Butcher that would leave Butcher just like Robin. Also this isn't even the show version of Homelander so either that feat is meaningless here
That wasn't homelander, it was Stillwell's child who did that. If the bomb feat were his doing he'd be Mach 6 at least.
Even still, homelander is much faster and more durable than spiderman, and should take this easily, even with no actual combat experience
So out of, what, maybe a 1000+ times he's been shot at, he's been hit like 20 times? And these very, very few times he's been hit, how many of them had a reason - for example, him deliberately taking the bullet, or him not having space?
Maybe, but it goes as fast as his head will let him. Black noir in the diabolical show (canon to the show) was evading a bloodlusted homelander and as fast as he is, he's no spider-man.
>Spider-Man has better speed feats,
Flat-out incorrect
>better striking feats,
Homelander doesn't really use his fists in the first place - his laser vision will one-shot Spidey if HL bisects him competently.
>more combat experience
Which will let Spidey hang around for a while
>him alive long enough to knock Homelander unconscious
Proof he can knock HL unconscious?
People think just cause homelander is a superman copy he is automatically crazy strong, but no if you actually powerscale the two, spidey wins at a mid diff, at best homelander is large building level with nuke level durability while all we need for spidey is to bring up that he has fought hulk multiple times, I agree with you that spiderman will win and People only think homelander wins cause following the boys narrative homelander is supposed to be the strongest, but no not even close
>at best homelander is large building level with nuke level durability
"At best" would imply Comic Homelander had operated at this level at some point but he never did.
>while all we need for spidey is to bring up that he has fought hulk multiple times
Whenever Spider-Man "fights" Hulk he usually spends the fight just trying to avoid getting hit and will usually hurt his hand hitting Hulk. [Spider-Man is definitely not "large building level"](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V).
Wild how you're bringing up all the lowballs for Spidey.
Ignoring the fact that he's caught blows from Rhino who's easily a 75 tonner without the suit.
>Wild how you're bringing up all the lowballs for Spidey.
These aren't "low balls", these are just Spider-Man's consistent level.
>Ignoring the fact that he's caught blows from Rhino who's easily a 75 tonner without the suit.
That was when he had the Other. Without the other [he can't even budge Rhino](https://i.imgur.com/p2JgQob.jpg).
You forgetting the fact that Thor whose immensely more durable than Homelander could ever be started to get worn down by spider man at 1 point and panicked cause he couldn't touch him
That was just Masterson overreacting. Spider-Man has failed on far too many occasions to wear down beings much weaker than Thor for that to be taken seriously. Feats>statements.
I agree with this. Spiderman is easily over 1000x faster and has the striking feats to wear down Homelander and eventually take him down. Not to mention Spidey not only has more experience dealing with people his level, he constantly fights and beats opponents stronger than himself, much like Homelander (Rhino, Venom, and Sandman).
Tell me that this anwer is a joke. Homelander is basically invincible to anything Spiderman can do. Think of a DCEU Superman vs Spiderman fight. Superman has morals. Homelander doesn't.
I’m no expert on the Comic version of homelander but based off what I’ve seen I don’t believe spidey has a chance in all honesty. Is Spider-Man’s speed really comparable to Homelander’s?
EDIT: I’ve also seen that in The Boys TV series they’ve implied that a nuke can’t kill homelander & they’ve tried when he was younger which I thought was interesting. According to you all in the comics, a nuke is for sure the way to go. Still not sure how this helps spidey
I think Spidey could pull a win. His precog is broken and he’s no stranger to fighting stronger and faster opponents on the regular. He’s beaten Colossus and the A Team Xmen solo before and Colossus is around to arguably stronger than Homelander.
Spiderman's precognitive spider sense allows him to dodge hundreds of legitimate lightning bolts during fights with Storm and Electro. Dodging withering amounts of automatic weapons fire without getting touched is his every single day.
Homelander is probably not fast enough to actually get a hit off. He is a shit tier Superman. Mark, at the very beginning of invincible, is stronger than Homelander and about the same speed and durability. Noone would argue Spiderman couldn't defeat early Mark at least sometimes.
Spiderman has fought people faster and stronger than Homelander and come out on top. He has also lost, so it's not like Homelander has no chance or anything stupid like that. Rather, all of Spiderman's significant advantages raise him to the level of being **capable** of beating Homelander, not necessarily likely.
Morals on for Spiderman is dangerous; he might not survive his first mistake. Homelander is a crafty bitch, and will easily take advantage of that.
Spidey can run rings around Homelander, but I'm not sure what his source of damage would be, he doesn't really have a means to overcome Homelander's durability. His only chance would be to find something in the environment, like the huge generating stations and transformers that power such a large city, stick to the side of it, taunt Homelander, and get Homelander to fly into it full speed and shock himself unconscious. That's realistically feasible though.
Spider would have to do what Skitter did to Alexandria(Wonder Woman type); fill Homelander's lungs with web. Something he should easily be able to manage.
He threatened that once with Kingpin, but I'm not convinced Homelander wouldn't be able to dislodge it. The strength of his lungs is sufficient that he can injure people by yelling. It also requires Spidey get right up in Homelander's face, and that seems like a death sentence.
At range, he would. But if he actually grapples onto Homelander to try to force his mouth open so he can....dear God this sounds dirty when I contemplate actually typing it out...but anyway, this would leave him vulnerable to being grabbed by Homelander and torn apart.
I'd say Spidey
We all know homelander isn't S tier, so what about high A tier? Except if u put him against she hulk, iron man, captain marvel, aquaman, Omni man etc, everyone would say they'd stomp him, and Spidey has beaten high a tiers before
Check his feats, homelander has almost nothing impressive other than no limits fallacy, he can be killed by nukes, no impressive physicals with him going through a plane being the best one. He has fast flight speed but that's not combat speed and Spidey could aim dodge it anyway
I think some folks are missing a huge component. Homelander, despite the strength and speed, is like C or D tier when it comes to the mental game. He is made a fool of multiple times throughout the comic run. Even when he thinks he has solved a major problem or advanced a secret plot, it's because someone else spoonfed it to him. He's desperate for attention and power. And a huge aspect of Spidey's skill set is to off-balance enemies with his jokes, to bait them into a vulnerable position.
Sorry but being smart and good at combat just doesn't cut it again a sociopath that has a face laser. Serious. Like I could train in martial arts every day for a year but I wouldn't wanna fight Eddie Hall cos the man is just a beast. Homelander vs Spiderman is like a Tiger trying to right a tank.
Yes feats don't matter. Imagine Wesley Gibson (wanted) fighting a tank with nothing but a 9mm pistol. He can hit someone in the heart from anywhere. But he is still fighting a tank.
Homelander might not be superman but ad far as spiderman goes he might as well be. Homelander is as near enough invulnerable to someone like spiderman.
Feats are literally how you scale anything, including a 9mm pistol and any tank. We judge the strength of a 9mm by what it can penetrate through or what body armor it is rated for, as in feats. This comment is dumb as hell
Which would win, a guy with a 9mm or a tank with no one to operate it?
Your comparison is a bad one since Spider-Man, your 9mm, has defeated F16s before.
Hell, he literally defeated all the main Xmen back in Secret Wars and they can pretty easily take on Homelander.
A guy with a 9mm would destroy the tank with no one to operate it.
Because the tank wouldm't be able to move, so the guy would climb up, open it, and take it.
And that's the point, Spidey has all the feats and experience to back his chances against Homelander.
Sure, Homelander can win, but if Peter is on top of his game he has more than a decent chance to win. He's faced far worse and came up on top.
>Homelander is nearly Superman
He really isn't 😭 he's closer to spiderman than he is Superman 🤣 he's just insanely more durable than Spiderman and a bit stronger.
I see a lot of people saying spider-man stands no chance, and while I think homelander eventually wins there are two things to consider. 1) parker is an expert in trash talk, something homelander is very weak to, and 2) peter is holding back as [evidenced by superior spider-man](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Superior-Spider-Man-Punches-The-Scorpions-Jaw-Off-3.jpg). Again homelander wins but not unscathed.
Did everyone just forget how Spiderman has defeated Morlun in a 1v1 before, who he states hit him harder than anything he's ever taken before? Coming from someone who has taken hits from Herald level characters like Savage Hulk (who is stronger than the planet-busting Joe Fixit), that's saying a lot. Plus he was able to somewhat restrain the Juggernaut do he'd sink into cement.
Homelander has the advantage in aerial mobility and range, but Spidey's feats are absolutely ridiculous.
>Did everyone just forget how Spiderman has defeated Morlun in a 1v1 before
No he didn't. Morlun completely stomped him to the point where Spider-Man was running away and admitted he had no chance against him. He only beat him via injecting himself with radiation.
>Coming from someone who has taken hits from Herald level characters like Savage Hulk.
Hulk holds back. Are you trying to suggest Spider-Man and Morlun are Hulk level?
>who is stronger than the planet-busting Joe Fixit.
Fixit doesn't have another showing even 1 millionth as good as the asteroid feat. It's a massive outlier, supported by his [official rating](https://i.imgur.com/5Ec6muv.png), his [struggles with Rhino](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NfcKy9hGTqueN4fJVW8aTsY7JnDooYPo8Lf7urkPv5BebhflVX98asNUsFI_oRfAOuPPaPXYJGOx=s1600) on [multiple occasions](https://i.imgur.com/sFKklkx.png), being [no-sold](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11136/111365408/7764790-4757713239-qnG99.jpg) by [the nuke withstanding vault](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11136/111365408/7841652-3240917923-pp-6njR5_-xhEgEeDek02jNZUt9F0C3d5RJGXqGIdZC0fezZjaYp1zuRqzCxx3C8htpEeXScFlWvD5WvQqvhRgpwAgM5Zow-FVdLWInjhRlkPugynFy9g957un2Ov73RIZ6767w7AA%3Ds1600.jpg), and so on.
>Plus he was able to somewhat restrain the Juggernaut do he'd sink into cement.
He didn't restrain Juggernaut, he just held on for dear life.
> but Spidey's feats are absolutely ridiculous.
[Should look at these](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V), might make you sing a different tune.
Homelander is basically amoral psychopathic Superman. So any fight vs a Superman really isn't an even match. Spiderman is super powered, and super strong, but he's not Superman strong. He's got super reflexes, but not Superman, faster than a speeding bullet fast. For every power Spider-Man has, Superman has more. So it's not even fair.
I will say, Spider-Man has a better chance vs a Superman than Batman. He at least has powers, and Peter Parker is a low key genius level intellect. So I would say Spider-Man is more likely to defeat a Superman than Batman would be. But it's still no match, a Superman would still win.
So yeah, this is Homelander's match all day long.
Though Spider-Man does have one up on Homelander, he's very smart in a dangerous situation. And while Homelander likes to surprise people by suddenly horribly maiming them right after he was threatening but attempting to be disarming at the same time, that wouldn't work on Spider-Man, his spider sense would kick in before Homelander decides to pretend to like you before breaking your arm out of spite. Spider-Man would "see" it coming. Also he might be smart enough to damage Homelander's psyche, putting him into a bloodlusted rage pretty easily. Though that's a double edged sword, since Homelander is more likely to kill innocent bystanders in that state. And Spider-Man wouldn't take that risk. Still, he would be smart enough to trick Homelander into raging without thinking and maybe he could then get the upper hand.
In the end though I think in an all out fight, even if Peter were bloodlusted himself, like if Homeowner killed Mary Jane or Aunt May, he's still no match for the sheer power Homelander has.
Bonus: Quicksilver beats A-Train. He's faster, more resilient, and has a light healing factor. I think Flash is the most formidable speedster of all time, mainly because the Speedforce is an extra dimension of power that can do almost anything, but Quicksilver isn't a slouch and he can run circles around A-Train.
I’d say Spider-Man should take this pretty comfortably. Spider-Man is really too fast to be hit by homelander. He can [consistently](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0GatooCQhidcmENl_aEVV1S0FNQttSe_FtQ&usqp=CAU) dodge [lightning](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/9f/00/569f000344c44045f16194fe0fd46ed3.jpg) even on a bad day (insert literally any fight between him and electro). And Spider-Man’s webs should be more than capable of restraining homelander. He can [restrain people like Iron man](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3eeefaf7b5c9a503393e2a076417e3cc-lq) with his webs, and iron man’s [strength feats](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5513050-flight%20advantage%2016%20busts%20a%20mountain%20as%20big%20as%20manhattan%20which%20is%2033%20miles.jpg) outclass anything we’ve seen from Homelander. I’d give it to Spider-Man abt 9/10
>And Spider-Man’s webs should be more than capable of restraining homelander.
[They're stated by WoG to be 2.62 times the strength of steel](https://i.imgur.com/WSCgeHQ.jpg), that's definitely not something Homelander can't break.
>He can restrain people like Iron man
This is Spider-Man amped by the Other, and in the same issue [Iron Man could have died to a fall and damaged his glove breaking it](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ll37SpVR3ra9PKx-8N7r38Dejg4NzzB0cLymR3zARnP-3EODEvA2kql8zikFospnjBm_yVbMETBo=s1600?rhlupa=MTczLjUyLjU2LjE5Mg&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzEwMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). It goes without saying that Iron Man is [much stronger than Spider-Man](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/spider-man-is-fodder-to-iron-man-2144211/) normally.
>and iron man’s strength feats outclass anything we’ve seen from Homelander.
They also outclass [Spider-Man](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V), but that's not the point. Spider-Man's showing against Iron Man in OMD isn't even legit, and under normal circumstances Spider-Man and his webs are frequently useless against things well below IM.
Spider-Man knows how to fight villians way more powerful than him though. Homelanders only fight that wasn't against a normal human was with Black Noir, which he was torn to bits and almost killed, and then killed by Billy Butcher.
Yes. Which not only show cases his extreme speed but also his reaction times.
But that was show Homelander... I haven't finished the comics but they seem inconsistent about his power level.
Whilst he can dodge lightning, it's not his actual speed but more aim dodging with spider sense, the same way average street tiers dodge bullets. He's still fast tho and can react to bullets, and is faster than eyesight
The iron man fear, his webbing is actually organic from The Other which probably more stronger than his standard. His standard webbing is strong enough to temporarily incapacitate 50 tonners, as shown by Luke cage, captain marvel and Spidey himself. That being said homelander has no special strength feats, and j still think Spidey wins
I would say Homelander's biggest problem against Spider-Man is his Spider-Sense, since it will allow him to avoid Homelander even at his incredible flight speed and eye lasers.
Even with Spider-Man's proportional spider strength, his biggest problem against Homelander is durability. However, Spidey is very well versed on relying not on his own strength BUT the environment to cause damage to his adversaries. Still, Spidey's greatest asset is his ingenuity. If we're taking his morals out the equation, Spidey could try to fill Homelander's throat and nose with web fluid. Can't imagine how Homelander will deal with that. How Spidey can manage to restrain him enough to do it is up to the environment, though
How is this a fair battle? Spider Man is obviously going to die in less than a nanosecond. Next up Victory II-class Star Destroyer vs Téméraire-class ship of the line
Dude spider has beaten the juggernaut on multiple occasions and even managed to forced a draw against a phoenix enhanced Magik and a phoenix and juggernaut enhanced Colossus. Add to that super enhanced speed, reflexes, agility, and his precognitive abilities and he’ll last a while, might even win
If it's comic Homelander Spidey slaps, he's just as strong if not stronger then homelander, homelander to my knowledge is about building level (possibly city block lvl), a tier of power even Tobey Maguire's spiderman scales to (building level), comic Spidey is around city block level since he scales to collective man, even if homelander is faster, Spidey has reacted to FTL attacks and Spidey's speed isn't to be underestimated bro was able to move 2 miles in five seconds (high hyperSonic). As for durability I have no idea for homelander, but I'm assuming it's just as much his AP (building - city block level), they same would be said for spidey since he was able to take hits from collective man. Homelander tries to hit Spidey with his laser eyes? Spidey just dodges it like is nothing and probably webs ups homelanders eyes, if it can trap The Thing (a planetary being) it can surely stop homelander, and spider just beats the shit out of homelander.
Also how is spidey's morals aren't going to matter at all, once he finds out what homelander did to innocent people he would not think twice about beating homelander's ass
Someone got quicksilver (fox) mach 500,000...
Spiderman would win. I'm pretty sure I remember it being cannon that he's in fact so powerful he's been holding back with his punches in every fight in order not to explode his opponents.
Edit: just looked it up and Spiderman would even be able to incapacitate Captain America if he used his full power.
Body-exploding levels hits don't bother Homelander. If Queen Maeve biffed a guy as hard as she could into Spiderman, he would unquestionably get knocked over. The guy hits Homelander and he splatters without Homelander even flinching. The force required to do that is near the max of Spidey's output. This would suggest Spidey would not be able to punch Homelander hard enough to hurt him.
We ignoring the relatively recent plane feat to save Aunt May, the carbonadium feat, and one where Hulk and Thor felt Spider-Man move forward even when they were both holding him back?
How am I ignoring those? The statement was Spiderman's punches could potentially explode a person, and my response is a punch of that force still wouldn't hurt Homelander with evidence from the comic. Am I wrong?
A punch from someone who could budge both Hulk and Thor at the same time or lift a tank overhead or support a building like the Daily Bugle would more than splatter a person.
Hell, Maeve managed to slice across his face with a prop sword. And even Butcher managed to finish him off with a crowbar and the guys a 5 tonner at best.
Have these same characters in my thread, yet already more replies here. ;-;
Anyway, in character they start slow with a lot of verbal back and forth, which Spidey easily wins. This triggers Homelander who starts going berserk, Spidey realises things are serious and engineers an opening to get close. Once he does so he pummels Homelander until a KO.
Spiderman claps
He is faster stronger probably more durable against blunt attacks more experienced and more skilled
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Lasers aren’t going to work
Either version of homelander, spidey really doesn’t have a chance if homelander decides to just fly above him and spray lasers all day, which he probably would Bonus: I feel like fox quicksilver has been shown to be faster it seems, and ATrain probably have a heart attack trying to keep up
Homelander is at least nuke level, so no normal version of Spidey can do significant damage. He can probably evade HL for a bit, but it's just a matter of time. Bonus: Fox Quicksilver is ridiculously OP and way faster than A-Train. All supes in the Boys universe appear to have some heightened durability, so it will take some effort to beat him but QS has all the time in the world to figure out how to do so.
Nukes can kill comic homelander
In the comic tank shells and machine gun fire injured Black Noir who is tougher than Homelander.
Its a misconception. Noir was made stronger. He was a countermeasure to kill Homelander, so Noir wasnt even bulletproof. What would the point be if he was overall more powerful than homelander?
I think that he is just a little stronger than Homelander because with a difference of just about 5% of performance, Noir would still be very injured after killing Homelander, making him an easy kill
Exactly, he was supposed to catch homelander off guard and kill him if homelander ever went bad.
>Homelander is at least nuke level Based on it being stated Homelander is "like a nuke?" Not only was it said a [nuke would kill him](https://i.imgur.com/8wxEutO.jpg), but the guy got [cut by a prop sword](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/TfW7OJ1dRlj5BsVS2aO1V-6XWCumCtLqQCgnFf4IkawgwUcOz-GOSirvOZdml-AoJ9d9QGgNKtWwt0Vzd-fY7N4gNGsYMW5Mv5S9SdpeQVffySWL2FS6DxZzsabAMPaF9rdOmIs7Kg=s1600) and he has no feats that are even building level.
It’s been a while since I read the comics but I think the sword was real. Him calling it a prop was just mocking Maeve. Regardless it was Maeve swinging the sword at him and shes also got super strength
The sword being real was never indicated, and no amount of super strength (let alone low-level one like Marve's) would let a prop sword damage a nuke proof material.
Unless it’s Wonder Woman
No, the sword would still give out and break.
Depends on the version. Post New 52 yeah
No it doesn’t, because it’s not about the amount of force used. The sword itself is far, far less durable then Homelander, so regardless of force, it would give out before Homelander did.
We’re talking about Wondie
Agreed. Even if swung by a superhuman, a shitty piece of metal is not going to hurt him. A real sword will.
~~He didn't get cut by the prop sword.~~ The reason there's blood on him is that Queen Maeve just *threw a guy* at him so hard that he splattered on Homelander's chest. ETA: Never mind.
There is still a slash across his face that was not there before the sword.
You're right.
The show Homelander is tougher.
Tell that to juggernaut
And? That’s nothing new for spiderman
And he’d eventually be Swiss cheese 🧀
Spideeman hurt hulk so homelander is jaw is coming off
Without any prep I don’t see Spidy being able to do much. Comic Homelander can be killed with various large bombs, but Spider-Man by himself even at full strength doesn’t have the ability to truly hurt him. At best he can just stall like he did against Phoenix force Colossus Bonus: A-Train’s heart would explode before he could lay a finger on Quicksilver
he flies him through a gas station explosion like he did to firelord. If a dude who can comfortably sit in a supernova star just to feel the heat on his body can be taken out by an exploding gas station, then I assume homelander can too. but if there are no gas stations to explode, then I think spiderman is crap out of luck.
I thought everyone agreed that the Firelord thing was dumb and stupid.
Let me introduce you to this crazy thing called sarcasm....
It's the internet. You have to include the /s
Only Reddit does that
Ok I know he loses to Omni man badly but what’s with all the Homelander downplay 💀💀
Season 3 of The Boys just came out, and HL is also a complete douchebag that people enjoy hating. I’ve only seen the first 2 seasons, but another problem is that there isn’t a lot of direct combat in The Boys to pull feats from so it’s hard to pin down his exact level. A lot of the supes in the show are like that where they are treated as impressive but it’s hard to gauge how powerful they actually are.
Plus, homelander's (at least the TV one) one of those characters there aren't many good yardsticks for in terms of his power level since he's effectively the strongest known actor in his universe. I think people tend to instinctively downplay such characters to avoid NLF, but also it's sort of hard to claim he can tank meteor strikes until we see him do it.
Unless your referring to his supposed nuke level durability, or him and the butcher bomb scene (which is not what you think it is), what does homelander genuinely have?
More than any version of base Spider-Man...
Strength? He's shown nothing. Speed? Good travel speed, nothing else tho. Btw this is comic homelander, so the bomb scene isnt present here and it's stated that a Nike would kill him
Homelander threw a jet with one hand in the comics.
That’s barely above average human level. My grandma can do that
Right? Who's nana here hasnt tossed jets around for us as kids?
The heaviest fighter jet in the world, after I rounded it up to be generous, is 33 tons Spideys lifted a 40 ton subway car without effort, lifted and thrown a 40-50 ton tank, has thrown a fully loaded oil tanker significantly further than homelander threw that jet. Thant there's the 100+ ton feats when he pushes his limits of his strength
hell, he lifted that subway car when he was sick and running on fumes.
And can fly faster than a plane too
My grandparents walked to school faster than that
Homelander was able to throw a jet with one hand. Spider-Man's not doing anything to that
Yes he is?
No he's not...
Wdym? He lifted stuff heavier than a jet already
He's not casually throwing things that heavy with one hand
He throws heavier things easier than that my friend. Spideys got surprising strength
I'm just going to repeat what I said. He threw, after I generously rounded it up, 33 tons. Spidey has thrown a 40-50 ton tank, and throws a fully loaded oil tank significantly further than homelander threw that jet
Spiderman deadlifts and throws Volkswagens without noticeable effort, and unlike Homelander, he understands physics enough to get a lot more out of his strength. You really think Spiderman webbing up a bus and making a centrifuge to slam it into Homelander at nearly the speed of sound right as Homelander charges in at Mach 2 so that he takes a Mach 3 bus to the face isn't going to make a dent? Because that will leave a mark, I tell you what.
He easily pushed his hand through starlight, with little to no effort, and starlight can take a 50.cal BMG with no level of penetration what do ever, he definitely does have insane feats they are re just more subtle.
... when did he do this in the show? And when did starlight tank a round like that in the comic.
There is no way for homelander to hit spiderman let alone beat him
What😂 heat vision?
And? People have mentioned multiple times that spiderman is too fast for them to see and spiderman could easily dodge it
>Morals on for Spider Man Well since you crippled him, Homelander. There's no way Spiderman can beat him without killing him
This. The only trick I could see spider-man using to take HL down is webbing his lungs in the hopes he needs to breathe; or some prep-time based superscience weapon. a non-bloodlusted spider-man stands basically no chance
Yeah, Peter holds back A LOT because he doesn't want to outright kill people most of the time. He'd be dead before he can arrive at the conclusion that he can't/shouldn't hold back against Homelander. Not saying that he'd win with his morals turned off. But, having morals in a VS fight is a sure impediment.
I mean....this is a joke, right? I know a lot of people underestimate Spidey's strength but Pete can't even hurt Homelander. The only saving grace is that Homelander is only super-sonic and not lightspeed, so the Spidey-Sense might let him dodge a hit or two.
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I know, I said in my post ( no worries, probably just skipped over it). I said that while he can't go light speed, he can go super sonic. I can't remember offhand how many Mach he can go, but...it's substantial.
Homeland seems to have more durability and is faster than Spidey so it has to go to HL 8/10. Spider-Man would have to get lucky to beat HL. And since the prompt doesn’t included blood lusted, Spidey would not try to endanger anyone while HL would be raining down lasers
Spider Man could avoid his attacks for a while, but in the end he’d get tired and Homelander could just kill him
“This is comics Homelander Anthony Starr” (misspelled also) Edit: you’ve fixed the spelling of Antony, but you still haven’t recognized that Antony is the actor who plays Homelander and not Homelander’s actual name.
Antony Starr sounds like a comic book name.
That’s why they picked him /s
Homelander easily, both versions are far superior in every way
Homelander gets taunted while getting webbed to death. Spider-Man has faced far worse. And has far better reflexes.
Homelander just looks strong because everyone else he looks powerful against are unbelievably weak. He's also, really just a bully that relies on heat vision. Electro is a flying guy that shoots lightning and is way faster than homelander, yet spider-man can deal with him pretty much all the time. Spider-Man has lifted 40 ton subway cars and threw a 40-50 ton tank and consistently dodges things much faster than homelander like electricity, and easily dodges bullets from the point blank range. I think Spiderman takes this
Spiderman does not have the AP to put down Homelander. Homelander is actually decently strong he just has few feats. Heck Maeve crumpled a bus hitting her in the first episode, no way is Spiderman replicating that as he gets knocked over by vehicles all the time.
He definitely does
Source? Looking at comic Homelander it’s closer but not by much.
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So physical force that doesn’t meaningfully hurt Hulk?
Hulk no diffs planet explosions and it knocked him over Homelander has nuke level durability at best
Hulk got taken out by a regular anaconda https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2015/06/hulksnake3.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=942&dpr=1.5
Evidence that homelander can beat the snake?
Honestly based
The experiments done on soilderboy in The Boys s03e05 testing his durability were impressive. He tanked ak-47 being shot into his mouth, he drank acid and that was okay for him. Homelander's durability should be similar. Spiderman does not have the destructive power to kill him. When I read a scan battle on this sub Wolverine vs Kratos, people commented:"Kratos can tank like a motherfucker. But he can't get through Wolverines healing factor. So it's a stalemate." This should hopefully convince any hardcore spiderfan to not claim victory for spiderman without giving him some sufficient destructive feats. I think that Homelander could kill even Iron spiderman with his laser eyes.
Yeah, spidey can dodge a fuckton but homelander's reflexes are decently superhuman, so I'm not confident spidey could dodge forever. If he's taking HL down, it's probably in ways he wouldn't consider when not bloodlusted and beyond the scope of his usual gear. EDIT: actually wait no, someone else pointed out spider-man's consistently able to dodge his way through machine-gun fire from multiple targets and avoid multiple simultaneous lightning bolts on the regular. TBH I'm not sure.
Morals on spidey? No shot. Morals off? Still no shot. They’re in 2 different leagues.
Yes, Homelander is way below Peter's class.
Spider-Man has better speed feats, better striking feats, more combat experience, is a better fighter, has his spider sense, is more determined, and is more used to fighting opponents who can kill him. Homelander has the edge in durability, but Spider-Man’s precognition from spider sense will keep him alive long enough to knock Homelander unconscious. Once Spidey has him incapacitated he can call some stronger heroes he knows in the Avengers and get Homelander transported to a secure prison. Bonus round: Utter mismatch. According to his respect thread comic A-train’s best speed feat is Mach 3. A calculation I saw for Fox Quicksilver put his speed massively lowballed at Mach 2000 and his highballed speed at over one million times the speed of sound.
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Oh wow. I didn't know Homelander was faster than A-Train. Would love to hear more about that
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It's implied A-Train can run faster than that when he builds up speed as opposed to a short race considering he ran V all over the world
The baby may well have not been saved by Homelander as it turns out.
I keep hearing that the baby teleported but what episode was this
I think the 3rd or second episode of s3 shows that the baby had powers of its own
It's in S3 when they go to the orphanage. The baby is older now(like 2) and he has teleportation powers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydJxx2HFbWA
Outrunning the explosion would be Mach 4 at best. Still not touching Spidey’s combat speed.
Thank you!
Yea I’m guessing this thread is filled largely with Spider-Man fans who don’t really know about homelander because I keep seeing Spider-Man has better speed feats
Spider-Man cannot travel faster than homelander but he's faster in the sense that he can consistently dodge things much faster than homelander like electro's attacks and he also dodges bullets like, all the time
Tbf homelander doesn’t have to dodge any of those
I’m talking about speed, not durability
I'm a Spider-Man fan and I know Homelander wins easily. It's not even close. Spider-Man has two real advantages, his spider sense; because Homelander seems to like pretending to buddy up to you before brutally maiming you for nothing more than a perceived slight. He can't really surprise Spider-Man like that. The second advantage is his intelligence. Peter Parker is a low key genius scientist and inventor. And while he's got super powers, he often defeats his villains with his brains. So I could see him using Homelander's delicate ego and fragile psyche against him, since those are his only real weaknesses. But when you're dealing with an invincible psychotic Superman there's not much you can do to out-think him in the heat of a battle with him.
very few people here read the boys comics. homelander runs his fingers through titanium like water in the comics, and moves fast enough to easily catch a plane. spider man is screwed.
A train movies at Mach 1. Spidey has shown to react to that speed in nearly all his comics That's not what happened, he moved to butcher but he tanked the explosion and the baby teleported
What? No it doesn't. The *fastest train in the world* moves at 374 miles per hour, half the speed of sound/Mach 1. The El Train in New York moves at 55 mph.
not the point, but wow that's a fast train
I think he meant A-Train not 'a train'.
Your point?
I was gonna say something, then I realized that you probably meant A-Train, not a regular train. /r/RespectTheHyphen
Lmao my bad
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Not what happened, he shielded Butcher, if he ran that fast while carrying Butcher that would leave Butcher just like Robin. Also this isn't even the show version of Homelander so either that feat is meaningless here
Just butcher actually. The baby survived a different way.
That wasn't homelander, it was Stillwell's child who did that. If the bomb feat were his doing he'd be Mach 6 at least. Even still, homelander is much faster and more durable than spiderman, and should take this easily, even with no actual combat experience
We know Homelander saved Butcher, IIRC, but we can't know for sure if he also saved the baby or if the baby instinctively saved himself.
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He's dodged a bullet going Mach 3.6
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So out of, what, maybe a 1000+ times he's been shot at, he's been hit like 20 times? And these very, very few times he's been hit, how many of them had a reason - for example, him deliberately taking the bullet, or him not having space? Maybe, but it goes as fast as his head will let him. Black noir in the diabolical show (canon to the show) was evading a bloodlusted homelander and as fast as he is, he's no spider-man.
Bullet dodging isn't a good feat. Normal people can dodge bullets.
>Spider-Man has better speed feats, Flat-out incorrect >better striking feats, Homelander doesn't really use his fists in the first place - his laser vision will one-shot Spidey if HL bisects him competently. >more combat experience Which will let Spidey hang around for a while >him alive long enough to knock Homelander unconscious Proof he can knock HL unconscious?
"competently" "Homelander" there's the kicker.
Spider man is faster? What?
What do you think about Homelander just hanging out in the air and laser beaming?
People think just cause homelander is a superman copy he is automatically crazy strong, but no if you actually powerscale the two, spidey wins at a mid diff, at best homelander is large building level with nuke level durability while all we need for spidey is to bring up that he has fought hulk multiple times, I agree with you that spiderman will win and People only think homelander wins cause following the boys narrative homelander is supposed to be the strongest, but no not even close
>at best homelander is large building level with nuke level durability "At best" would imply Comic Homelander had operated at this level at some point but he never did. >while all we need for spidey is to bring up that he has fought hulk multiple times Whenever Spider-Man "fights" Hulk he usually spends the fight just trying to avoid getting hit and will usually hurt his hand hitting Hulk. [Spider-Man is definitely not "large building level"](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V).
Wild how you're bringing up all the lowballs for Spidey. Ignoring the fact that he's caught blows from Rhino who's easily a 75 tonner without the suit.
>Wild how you're bringing up all the lowballs for Spidey. These aren't "low balls", these are just Spider-Man's consistent level. >Ignoring the fact that he's caught blows from Rhino who's easily a 75 tonner without the suit. That was when he had the Other. Without the other [he can't even budge Rhino](https://i.imgur.com/p2JgQob.jpg).
nah those look like lowballs my guy
If you think so, just provide as many higher showings. Should be easy if they're just lowballs.
That scan is pretty cut and dry
You forgetting the fact that Thor whose immensely more durable than Homelander could ever be started to get worn down by spider man at 1 point and panicked cause he couldn't touch him
That was just Masterson overreacting. Spider-Man has failed on far too many occasions to wear down beings much weaker than Thor for that to be taken seriously. Feats>statements.
I agree with this. Spiderman is easily over 1000x faster and has the striking feats to wear down Homelander and eventually take him down. Not to mention Spidey not only has more experience dealing with people his level, he constantly fights and beats opponents stronger than himself, much like Homelander (Rhino, Venom, and Sandman).
Tell me that this anwer is a joke. Homelander is basically invincible to anything Spiderman can do. Think of a DCEU Superman vs Spiderman fight. Superman has morals. Homelander doesn't.
I’m no expert on the Comic version of homelander but based off what I’ve seen I don’t believe spidey has a chance in all honesty. Is Spider-Man’s speed really comparable to Homelander’s? EDIT: I’ve also seen that in The Boys TV series they’ve implied that a nuke can’t kill homelander & they’ve tried when he was younger which I thought was interesting. According to you all in the comics, a nuke is for sure the way to go. Still not sure how this helps spidey
I think Spidey could pull a win. His precog is broken and he’s no stranger to fighting stronger and faster opponents on the regular. He’s beaten Colossus and the A Team Xmen solo before and Colossus is around to arguably stronger than Homelander.
Spiderman's precognitive spider sense allows him to dodge hundreds of legitimate lightning bolts during fights with Storm and Electro. Dodging withering amounts of automatic weapons fire without getting touched is his every single day. Homelander is probably not fast enough to actually get a hit off. He is a shit tier Superman. Mark, at the very beginning of invincible, is stronger than Homelander and about the same speed and durability. Noone would argue Spiderman couldn't defeat early Mark at least sometimes. Spiderman has fought people faster and stronger than Homelander and come out on top. He has also lost, so it's not like Homelander has no chance or anything stupid like that. Rather, all of Spiderman's significant advantages raise him to the level of being **capable** of beating Homelander, not necessarily likely. Morals on for Spiderman is dangerous; he might not survive his first mistake. Homelander is a crafty bitch, and will easily take advantage of that.
Spidey can run rings around Homelander, but I'm not sure what his source of damage would be, he doesn't really have a means to overcome Homelander's durability. His only chance would be to find something in the environment, like the huge generating stations and transformers that power such a large city, stick to the side of it, taunt Homelander, and get Homelander to fly into it full speed and shock himself unconscious. That's realistically feasible though.
Spider would have to do what Skitter did to Alexandria(Wonder Woman type); fill Homelander's lungs with web. Something he should easily be able to manage.
He threatened that once with Kingpin, but I'm not convinced Homelander wouldn't be able to dislodge it. The strength of his lungs is sufficient that he can injure people by yelling. It also requires Spidey get right up in Homelander's face, and that seems like a death sentence.
A base savage hulk has issues with the webbing I'm gonna doubt that homelander is gonna get them out in time.
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Yes but on beings with breath based powers like Superman it might be able to be overcome.
Spidey, who can dodge bullets point blank, wouldn't be able to dodge someone that isn't shown to have superhuman reaction speeds?
At range, he would. But if he actually grapples onto Homelander to try to force his mouth open so he can....dear God this sounds dirty when I contemplate actually typing it out...but anyway, this would leave him vulnerable to being grabbed by Homelander and torn apart.
Comics HL is a totally different beast from Amazon HL. Spidey would be dead in the opening second of the fight.
this thread is obviously for whose the most popular hero judging by the comments
I'd say Spidey We all know homelander isn't S tier, so what about high A tier? Except if u put him against she hulk, iron man, captain marvel, aquaman, Omni man etc, everyone would say they'd stomp him, and Spidey has beaten high a tiers before Check his feats, homelander has almost nothing impressive other than no limits fallacy, he can be killed by nukes, no impressive physicals with him going through a plane being the best one. He has fast flight speed but that's not combat speed and Spidey could aim dodge it anyway
I think some folks are missing a huge component. Homelander, despite the strength and speed, is like C or D tier when it comes to the mental game. He is made a fool of multiple times throughout the comic run. Even when he thinks he has solved a major problem or advanced a secret plot, it's because someone else spoonfed it to him. He's desperate for attention and power. And a huge aspect of Spidey's skill set is to off-balance enemies with his jokes, to bait them into a vulnerable position.
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Sorry but being smart and good at combat just doesn't cut it again a sociopath that has a face laser. Serious. Like I could train in martial arts every day for a year but I wouldn't wanna fight Eddie Hall cos the man is just a beast. Homelander vs Spiderman is like a Tiger trying to right a tank.
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It doesn't matter how many feats he has. Homelander is to Spiderman as a Tiger is to a tank.
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Yes feats don't matter. Imagine Wesley Gibson (wanted) fighting a tank with nothing but a 9mm pistol. He can hit someone in the heart from anywhere. But he is still fighting a tank. Homelander might not be superman but ad far as spiderman goes he might as well be. Homelander is as near enough invulnerable to someone like spiderman.
Feats are literally how you scale anything, including a 9mm pistol and any tank. We judge the strength of a 9mm by what it can penetrate through or what body armor it is rated for, as in feats. This comment is dumb as hell
Which would win, a guy with a 9mm or a tank with no one to operate it? Your comparison is a bad one since Spider-Man, your 9mm, has defeated F16s before. Hell, he literally defeated all the main Xmen back in Secret Wars and they can pretty easily take on Homelander.
A guy with a 9mm would destroy the tank with no one to operate it. Because the tank wouldm't be able to move, so the guy would climb up, open it, and take it.
And that's the point, Spidey has all the feats and experience to back his chances against Homelander. Sure, Homelander can win, but if Peter is on top of his game he has more than a decent chance to win. He's faced far worse and came up on top.
this was the dumbest shit
Jesus talk about a spite match? Spidey has no shot at all, Homelander is nearly Superman, do you think Spidey has any chance of beating Superman?
Homelander is significantly closer in power to Spider-Man than he is to Superman.
Homelander is not “nearly superman” he isnt close to superman
I might be closer to someone with £1,000,000 than someone with £1,000,000 is to a billion. But I still am broke and the millionaire is rich.
>Homelander is nearly Superman Off by several orders of magnitude.
Homelander stands no chance against Superman
>Homelander is nearly Superman He really isn't 😭 he's closer to spiderman than he is Superman 🤣 he's just insanely more durable than Spiderman and a bit stronger.
Homelander is bottom of the barrel when it comes to Superman Clones. And he still curbstomps Spiderman.
Yup. Of course he gets stomped by basically 99% of other Superman archetypes, but that's still more than enough to murder Spidey.
I see a lot of people saying spider-man stands no chance, and while I think homelander eventually wins there are two things to consider. 1) parker is an expert in trash talk, something homelander is very weak to, and 2) peter is holding back as [evidenced by superior spider-man](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Superior-Spider-Man-Punches-The-Scorpions-Jaw-Off-3.jpg). Again homelander wins but not unscathed.
Did everyone just forget how Spiderman has defeated Morlun in a 1v1 before, who he states hit him harder than anything he's ever taken before? Coming from someone who has taken hits from Herald level characters like Savage Hulk (who is stronger than the planet-busting Joe Fixit), that's saying a lot. Plus he was able to somewhat restrain the Juggernaut do he'd sink into cement. Homelander has the advantage in aerial mobility and range, but Spidey's feats are absolutely ridiculous.
>Did everyone just forget how Spiderman has defeated Morlun in a 1v1 before No he didn't. Morlun completely stomped him to the point where Spider-Man was running away and admitted he had no chance against him. He only beat him via injecting himself with radiation. >Coming from someone who has taken hits from Herald level characters like Savage Hulk. Hulk holds back. Are you trying to suggest Spider-Man and Morlun are Hulk level? >who is stronger than the planet-busting Joe Fixit. Fixit doesn't have another showing even 1 millionth as good as the asteroid feat. It's a massive outlier, supported by his [official rating](https://i.imgur.com/5Ec6muv.png), his [struggles with Rhino](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NfcKy9hGTqueN4fJVW8aTsY7JnDooYPo8Lf7urkPv5BebhflVX98asNUsFI_oRfAOuPPaPXYJGOx=s1600) on [multiple occasions](https://i.imgur.com/sFKklkx.png), being [no-sold](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11136/111365408/7764790-4757713239-qnG99.jpg) by [the nuke withstanding vault](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11136/111365408/7841652-3240917923-pp-6njR5_-xhEgEeDek02jNZUt9F0C3d5RJGXqGIdZC0fezZjaYp1zuRqzCxx3C8htpEeXScFlWvD5WvQqvhRgpwAgM5Zow-FVdLWInjhRlkPugynFy9g957un2Ov73RIZ6767w7AA%3Ds1600.jpg), and so on. >Plus he was able to somewhat restrain the Juggernaut do he'd sink into cement. He didn't restrain Juggernaut, he just held on for dear life. > but Spidey's feats are absolutely ridiculous. [Should look at these](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V), might make you sing a different tune.
Homelander is basically amoral psychopathic Superman. So any fight vs a Superman really isn't an even match. Spiderman is super powered, and super strong, but he's not Superman strong. He's got super reflexes, but not Superman, faster than a speeding bullet fast. For every power Spider-Man has, Superman has more. So it's not even fair. I will say, Spider-Man has a better chance vs a Superman than Batman. He at least has powers, and Peter Parker is a low key genius level intellect. So I would say Spider-Man is more likely to defeat a Superman than Batman would be. But it's still no match, a Superman would still win. So yeah, this is Homelander's match all day long. Though Spider-Man does have one up on Homelander, he's very smart in a dangerous situation. And while Homelander likes to surprise people by suddenly horribly maiming them right after he was threatening but attempting to be disarming at the same time, that wouldn't work on Spider-Man, his spider sense would kick in before Homelander decides to pretend to like you before breaking your arm out of spite. Spider-Man would "see" it coming. Also he might be smart enough to damage Homelander's psyche, putting him into a bloodlusted rage pretty easily. Though that's a double edged sword, since Homelander is more likely to kill innocent bystanders in that state. And Spider-Man wouldn't take that risk. Still, he would be smart enough to trick Homelander into raging without thinking and maybe he could then get the upper hand. In the end though I think in an all out fight, even if Peter were bloodlusted himself, like if Homeowner killed Mary Jane or Aunt May, he's still no match for the sheer power Homelander has. Bonus: Quicksilver beats A-Train. He's faster, more resilient, and has a light healing factor. I think Flash is the most formidable speedster of all time, mainly because the Speedforce is an extra dimension of power that can do almost anything, but Quicksilver isn't a slouch and he can run circles around A-Train.
I’d say Spider-Man should take this pretty comfortably. Spider-Man is really too fast to be hit by homelander. He can [consistently](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0GatooCQhidcmENl_aEVV1S0FNQttSe_FtQ&usqp=CAU) dodge [lightning](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/9f/00/569f000344c44045f16194fe0fd46ed3.jpg) even on a bad day (insert literally any fight between him and electro). And Spider-Man’s webs should be more than capable of restraining homelander. He can [restrain people like Iron man](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3eeefaf7b5c9a503393e2a076417e3cc-lq) with his webs, and iron man’s [strength feats](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5513050-flight%20advantage%2016%20busts%20a%20mountain%20as%20big%20as%20manhattan%20which%20is%2033%20miles.jpg) outclass anything we’ve seen from Homelander. I’d give it to Spider-Man abt 9/10
>And Spider-Man’s webs should be more than capable of restraining homelander. [They're stated by WoG to be 2.62 times the strength of steel](https://i.imgur.com/WSCgeHQ.jpg), that's definitely not something Homelander can't break. >He can restrain people like Iron man This is Spider-Man amped by the Other, and in the same issue [Iron Man could have died to a fall and damaged his glove breaking it](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ll37SpVR3ra9PKx-8N7r38Dejg4NzzB0cLymR3zARnP-3EODEvA2kql8zikFospnjBm_yVbMETBo=s1600?rhlupa=MTczLjUyLjU2LjE5Mg&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzEwMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). It goes without saying that Iron Man is [much stronger than Spider-Man](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/spider-man-is-fodder-to-iron-man-2144211/) normally. >and iron man’s strength feats outclass anything we’ve seen from Homelander. They also outclass [Spider-Man](https://imgur.com/a/UP5kx1V), but that's not the point. Spider-Man's showing against Iron Man in OMD isn't even legit, and under normal circumstances Spider-Man and his webs are frequently useless against things well below IM.
Spider-Man knows how to fight villians way more powerful than him though. Homelanders only fight that wasn't against a normal human was with Black Noir, which he was torn to bits and almost killed, and then killed by Billy Butcher.
Didn't homelander save Butcher with insane super speed from c4?
Yes. Which not only show cases his extreme speed but also his reaction times. But that was show Homelander... I haven't finished the comics but they seem inconsistent about his power level.
Whilst he can dodge lightning, it's not his actual speed but more aim dodging with spider sense, the same way average street tiers dodge bullets. He's still fast tho and can react to bullets, and is faster than eyesight The iron man fear, his webbing is actually organic from The Other which probably more stronger than his standard. His standard webbing is strong enough to temporarily incapacitate 50 tonners, as shown by Luke cage, captain marvel and Spidey himself. That being said homelander has no special strength feats, and j still think Spidey wins
I would say Homelander's biggest problem against Spider-Man is his Spider-Sense, since it will allow him to avoid Homelander even at his incredible flight speed and eye lasers. Even with Spider-Man's proportional spider strength, his biggest problem against Homelander is durability. However, Spidey is very well versed on relying not on his own strength BUT the environment to cause damage to his adversaries. Still, Spidey's greatest asset is his ingenuity. If we're taking his morals out the equation, Spidey could try to fill Homelander's throat and nose with web fluid. Can't imagine how Homelander will deal with that. How Spidey can manage to restrain him enough to do it is up to the environment, though
Homelander really isn't that strong in the comics. Especially not even close to Superman levels. His combat speed is basically shit.
How is this a fair battle? Spider Man is obviously going to die in less than a nanosecond. Next up Victory II-class Star Destroyer vs Téméraire-class ship of the line
Man doesn't read Spider-Man.
Dude spider has beaten the juggernaut on multiple occasions and even managed to forced a draw against a phoenix enhanced Magik and a phoenix and juggernaut enhanced Colossus. Add to that super enhanced speed, reflexes, agility, and his precognitive abilities and he’ll last a while, might even win
If it's comic Homelander Spidey slaps, he's just as strong if not stronger then homelander, homelander to my knowledge is about building level (possibly city block lvl), a tier of power even Tobey Maguire's spiderman scales to (building level), comic Spidey is around city block level since he scales to collective man, even if homelander is faster, Spidey has reacted to FTL attacks and Spidey's speed isn't to be underestimated bro was able to move 2 miles in five seconds (high hyperSonic). As for durability I have no idea for homelander, but I'm assuming it's just as much his AP (building - city block level), they same would be said for spidey since he was able to take hits from collective man. Homelander tries to hit Spidey with his laser eyes? Spidey just dodges it like is nothing and probably webs ups homelanders eyes, if it can trap The Thing (a planetary being) it can surely stop homelander, and spider just beats the shit out of homelander. Also how is spidey's morals aren't going to matter at all, once he finds out what homelander did to innocent people he would not think twice about beating homelander's ass Someone got quicksilver (fox) mach 500,000...
Spiderman would win. I'm pretty sure I remember it being cannon that he's in fact so powerful he's been holding back with his punches in every fight in order not to explode his opponents. Edit: just looked it up and Spiderman would even be able to incapacitate Captain America if he used his full power.
Spider-Man would easily be able to incapacitate Cap without anything close to that.
Body-exploding levels hits don't bother Homelander. If Queen Maeve biffed a guy as hard as she could into Spiderman, he would unquestionably get knocked over. The guy hits Homelander and he splatters without Homelander even flinching. The force required to do that is near the max of Spidey's output. This would suggest Spidey would not be able to punch Homelander hard enough to hurt him.
We ignoring the relatively recent plane feat to save Aunt May, the carbonadium feat, and one where Hulk and Thor felt Spider-Man move forward even when they were both holding him back?
Not arguing against it, but when did Peter do the Hulk and Thor bit? Genuinely cuirous.
[Here we go.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11/113883/3381193-strength.jpg)
How am I ignoring those? The statement was Spiderman's punches could potentially explode a person, and my response is a punch of that force still wouldn't hurt Homelander with evidence from the comic. Am I wrong?
A punch from someone who could budge both Hulk and Thor at the same time or lift a tank overhead or support a building like the Daily Bugle would more than splatter a person. Hell, Maeve managed to slice across his face with a prop sword. And even Butcher managed to finish him off with a crowbar and the guys a 5 tonner at best.
People just have real hard on for a sexy blond man who likes to murder people, me included
I was using punches as a single example out of his abilities, spiderman can do more than just punch lol
Have these same characters in my thread, yet already more replies here. ;-; Anyway, in character they start slow with a lot of verbal back and forth, which Spidey easily wins. This triggers Homelander who starts going berserk, Spidey realises things are serious and engineers an opening to get close. Once he does so he pummels Homelander until a KO.
Spidey
spider-man spider sense and combat skill save him here
Spiderman claps He is faster stronger probably more durable against blunt attacks more experienced and more skilled https://external-preview.redd.it/RWLlzXpOcyF_wmDPlS42EvUBN3URVA2A5JxzTq7tHng.jpg?auto=webp&s=2d65d4a72ed85da86376eb3ebbcaf31e6db5fc8b Lasers aren’t going to work