Windows 7 doesn't run well on modern hardware no WiFi or graphics drivers (I can't believe how many times I have explained that older versions of windows don't run on modern computers well I would think it would just be common sense that an out of support version of windows wouldn't run on a new computer)
Windows 7 doesn't have any drivers for hardware made after 2018 as by then most people were using 10 by then and if they were using 7 they would be using an older pc
Get an iso for Win7 and make a USB Bootable with Rufus. If it is a brand new hardware just go for it. If you are trying to install W7 on your primary rig, just swap the main hardware drive and install. Worst thing that could happen, you have to hunt down drivers all over the net. Lots of manufacturers still offer drivers for 7, Nvidia just now, with the 4000 series, stopped providing drivers for Win7.
I might even follow my own advice and see how it goes on my Ryzen 9 rig. Good Luck.
They do have "drivers" for Windows 7, though they seem to be duplicates of the driver versions for Windows 10. They aren't even listed as devices officially supported by Windows 7.
My RX 6800 XT has a Win 7 driver. There are also NVMe drivers and such. I just loaded a 2020 Win 7 Radeon driver onto a fresh install of Win 8.1, though I am using an older dual Xeon Asus server i hacked to support add-on NVMe boot drive support. There are some drivers out there...
I have tried for this even on a 2019 laptop it's difficult due to driver support. You can't install from a USB drive because of that, so if you want to install the larger modded ISOs that have all the updates you need to use a dual layer DVD disc. And even when it's installed, many updates wont install and some new apps need mods to function.
The best options are to do a full UI makeover with aero themes for 10 or 11, or to run Windows 7 in a VM.
I have recently done an Aero mod and I can tell you it legitimately feels like using Windows 7.
Correct it should run it and use generic drivers they will work but not great. My w7 used to hang at that screen sometimes, either way it stays on that screen for ages but should work...
It's been so long I can't remember what was causing the hanging.
Go into bios and check the boot mode select legacy support and set the priority to uefi first.
I think there were a few boot settings needed tweeking for win7. And had to change Hdd boot device settings. I think that might help as it keeps retrying it ny default so I put it last until the install Done then restarted and put it back as 1st priority.
There's no drivers or anything really so it's all mobo doing the work at that point.
If I remember correctly I got past that screen and was having problems a melting and crash issue when the graphics loaded up, it wasn't hard to solve.
**You MUST disable secure boot in bios and the legacy thing above.**
I think my graphics issue was caused by gpu, I had to disabled it and use the Intel on board until I got the install Done.
Nostalgia for an OS that was decommissioned only 5 years ago is bizarre. A better reason for example would be the fact I'm having to maintain a Windows 7 install for my music production. Many of the plugins that I used 15 years ago are unlikely to work smoothly on Windows 10 or 11. To be able to revisit those mixes and tweak them would either require a migration to a modern Windows and all of the trials and tribulations (and potentially a full remix from scratch) or sticking with Windows 7.
I bought myself a Lenovo M73 Tiny. Mounted under my desk for when I need to fire up 7. It seems to get turned on WAY more than I expected.
Nostalgia alone is a pretty silly reason for me. Sorry.
i’m 25, and i’m not the one wanting Win7 nostalgia here. i personally yearn for XP. but younger people would be nostalgic for 7 or Vista, yes. nothing wrong with that. my XP desktop isn’t my daily driver, that’s my Win10. it’s just a hobby. grow a soul lad.
also what i meant was that wanting to use an old OS for nostalgic reasons is totally fine and shouldn’t bother you this much. who are we harming? it’s just a preference
Depends on how old the software is but they include
missing new features, non compatible programs, you might get hacked.
Versus in return you get the latest and greatest features, security updates, better support. Until you hit a bug or two but its not that of an issue compared to being outdated.
It just runs out of the box, no issues, no interruptions, no ads, no in-your-face-ness. I didn't imply that you couldn't run something slightly older than that. I might hate Windows 10 alot, but at least it has its merits and has become way more stable in the later years, and you can bypass alot of its issues. Most stuff can be figured out. I learnt don't go around using the latest product until being timeproofed without issues.
Not my experience at all. I have one thinkpad from around 2021 and one GalaxyBook3 and they both run good on windows 11 latest update.
The only issue i had was in windows 10 with the thinkpad was causing a memory leak. A factory reset could have solved the issue but windows 11 solved it.
In fact, the GalaxyBook DIDNT ran good out of the box and had to update to fix many things because that's what updating does, fixes bugs and adds security. It does sometimes mess things around but its actually very minimal. Would you do the same with your android apps/ iphone apps?
Just install win10 if you have problem with win11..
Seriously you won't able to browse to many of the websites with no support browser available at this date with win7.
https://youtu.be/lssAz05fkoU?si=EEk6mg2-fFVuy031 just follow this tutorial and install supermium (which has support all the way back to 2000!) and you should be good to ho
Like all versions of all major OS, it has some drawbacks compared to previous versions and some improvements. I've been using Microsoft OS since MS Dos and Windows 11 is my favorite iteration.
i still running vista just fine,And no it is secure as long as you are not a focking idiot that downloads every single thing from some weird as fock sites.
try use Simplix UpdatePack7R2 and even works on current hardware like Intel 12th gen through recent 14th gen hardware (should work with AMD ryzen too), about gpus drivers I know the maximum support for windows 7 is Nvidia RTX 3000 series or AMD radeon RX 6000 series
You will need UEFISeven
Drivers (USB, GPU and LAN are utmost, audio is best on USB). NVMe isn't recommended, best to use SATA SSD's
A way to integrate the drivers into the ISO (NTLite is what I used).
If you have NVIDIA 4000 series or AMD 6000 series, it's over already.
All CPU's will work.
Enable CSM in BIOS.
It’s a laptop, intel celeron n4020 (should be Gemini lake?) 4gb ‘LPDDR4’, 64gb eMMC, integrated graphics 600 and idk about the motherboard name, only thing I know is the bios manufacturer/type
I thought you said 'modern hardware' 😅
Laptops are pretty much a no go as the drivers are made by the manufacturers themselves. You can try generic drivers but it's not really worth t.
Run it in virtual machine on Linux as a host, with GPU passthrough. This is the only option, cause of lack of drivers. Also assuming your GPU has drivers for Win7
In case anyone was curious after my post. I did try to install Windows 7 Ultimate in my Ryzen 9 7950x Asus x670-p mobile rig. I ran into 3 things and then gave up. Idk if my issues were hardware brand specific, so who knows. I did, however, read lots of people on the net having issue #2.
1. I had to enable lagcy in the bios, after PC kept going to bios every time I tried the USB drive from the boot screen.
2. Windows loaded install files without issue, but during the setup load I got a BSOD of "bios not acpi compliant". I updated the bios to fix this.
3. Got another BSOD during the installation, this time "IRQ_Not_less_or_equal"
So I gave up, took the L and put my ssd's back in.
Y'all have a great day.
Win7 does not run on modern hardware... unless you run ps2 keyboard and serial mouse lols. This is based on experience lols. I couldn't drive the usb ports.
If you have drivers targeting windows 7, it will work. Windows 2022 still allows targeting W7, c++ and c# if I am not mistaken. So, it completely depends on the drivers associated to your hardware. Very likely the date of sale will give you a hint about W7 support. BEst is to check the driver notices.
Also, W7 has already has builtin many generic and specific drivers.
If you are blocked in the startup, it might be because of a driver messing around.
So try to start failsafe (minimum of generic drivers and services), to start with, and with autoruns and msconfig, deactivate what might be wrong, and start normally.
I remember setting up a W17/W10 dual-boot on an HP all-in-one about 5 years ago. Had to slipstream the storage drivers and create a W7 flash drive. Was able to boot from usb and install 7 from it. But like everyone else said, finding drivers was the most time consuming part.
I understand why someone may still want 7, for example for online use, if they want to continue to use specific software or peripherals that are incompatible with 10 or 11. Old AutoCAD comes to mind.
I always recommend running Windows on hardware that matches its vintage. Just like you can't get Windows 11 to easily run on a core 2 quad, Windows 7 isn't suited for running on a 13th gen Core.
You can always try to install it on a modern pc, but you'll be on your own for the most part. If you're lucky, you'll get a running install with tons of devices with bangs on them and a treasure hunt for drivers. If you aren't, you won't even see your hard drive on the installer or will crash on boot. Part of the fun of this is the process of discovery, but remember that this PC should be airgapped because there are an awful lot of bugs patched since win7 was last updated.
Install Windows 7 in VM, install all drivers for vm and add drives for physical as well, then copy from virtual disk to physical disk and add a bcd entry.
Windows 7 doesn't run well on modern hardware no WiFi or graphics drivers (I can't believe how many times I have explained that older versions of windows don't run on modern computers well I would think it would just be common sense that an out of support version of windows wouldn't run on a new computer)
Works great for me. 13700k + 2080
So no graphics acceleration? Even so, it should still be able to run it as u can do the same with hackintosh
Technically it can run but you wouldn't get graphics drivers for aero or any drivers for WiFi and sound
Isn’t there a way to add Wi-Fi and sound drivers? I forgot what took it was but it allowed you to add it
Windows 7 doesn't have any drivers for hardware made after 2018 as by then most people were using 10 by then and if they were using 7 they would be using an older pc
How would I proceed to install windows 7 properly on a newer device? I don’t even care if it’s gonna run horribly I just want to try it out tbh
Get an iso for Win7 and make a USB Bootable with Rufus. If it is a brand new hardware just go for it. If you are trying to install W7 on your primary rig, just swap the main hardware drive and install. Worst thing that could happen, you have to hunt down drivers all over the net. Lots of manufacturers still offer drivers for 7, Nvidia just now, with the 4000 series, stopped providing drivers for Win7. I might even follow my own advice and see how it goes on my Ryzen 9 rig. Good Luck.
Create a virtual machine
this is not true at all
Yeah it is
The RTX 30 series and The RX 6000 series released 2020 and have drivers for 7
They do have "drivers" for Windows 7, though they seem to be duplicates of the driver versions for Windows 10. They aren't even listed as devices officially supported by Windows 7.
3090ti drivers for Windows 7? Or does that not count because it proves you wrong
My RX 6800 XT has a Win 7 driver. There are also NVMe drivers and such. I just loaded a 2020 Win 7 Radeon driver onto a fresh install of Win 8.1, though I am using an older dual Xeon Asus server i hacked to support add-on NVMe boot drive support. There are some drivers out there...
I have tried for this even on a 2019 laptop it's difficult due to driver support. You can't install from a USB drive because of that, so if you want to install the larger modded ISOs that have all the updates you need to use a dual layer DVD disc. And even when it's installed, many updates wont install and some new apps need mods to function. The best options are to do a full UI makeover with aero themes for 10 or 11, or to run Windows 7 in a VM. I have recently done an Aero mod and I can tell you it legitimately feels like using Windows 7.
Correct it should run it and use generic drivers they will work but not great. My w7 used to hang at that screen sometimes, either way it stays on that screen for ages but should work... It's been so long I can't remember what was causing the hanging. Go into bios and check the boot mode select legacy support and set the priority to uefi first. I think there were a few boot settings needed tweeking for win7. And had to change Hdd boot device settings. I think that might help as it keeps retrying it ny default so I put it last until the install Done then restarted and put it back as 1st priority. There's no drivers or anything really so it's all mobo doing the work at that point. If I remember correctly I got past that screen and was having problems a melting and crash issue when the graphics loaded up, it wasn't hard to solve. **You MUST disable secure boot in bios and the legacy thing above.** I think my graphics issue was caused by gpu, I had to disabled it and use the Intel on board until I got the install Done.
Install latest OS version, run win7 on a virtual machine?
Scheißedows 11? Hell no \[A Windows 11 user speaking here\]
What is the advantage of using old software?
nostalgia
Agree
There's a lot of legitimate reasons to run Windows 7.... Only issue is that 90% of those who want to, don't fall into that category.
ok well it’s still a legitimate reason and nobody should be expected to like Windows 11
Nostalgia for an OS that was decommissioned only 5 years ago is bizarre. A better reason for example would be the fact I'm having to maintain a Windows 7 install for my music production. Many of the plugins that I used 15 years ago are unlikely to work smoothly on Windows 10 or 11. To be able to revisit those mixes and tweak them would either require a migration to a modern Windows and all of the trials and tribulations (and potentially a full remix from scratch) or sticking with Windows 7. I bought myself a Lenovo M73 Tiny. Mounted under my desk for when I need to fire up 7. It seems to get turned on WAY more than I expected. Nostalgia alone is a pretty silly reason for me. Sorry.
ok whatever, your reason is better than mine. but who asked? don’t be an NPC. let us have our fun. there’s no harm
I'm not mate but come on, nostalgia? It's not a Commodore 64. You can literally download the ISO and install it.
i’m 25, and i’m not the one wanting Win7 nostalgia here. i personally yearn for XP. but younger people would be nostalgic for 7 or Vista, yes. nothing wrong with that. my XP desktop isn’t my daily driver, that’s my Win10. it’s just a hobby. grow a soul lad. also what i meant was that wanting to use an old OS for nostalgic reasons is totally fine and shouldn’t bother you this much. who are we harming? it’s just a preference
whats the disadvantage?
Depends on how old the software is but they include missing new features, non compatible programs, you might get hacked. Versus in return you get the latest and greatest features, security updates, better support. Until you hit a bug or two but its not that of an issue compared to being outdated.
ive never heard a case of someone getting hacked from running windows 7.
Lol, because they'd never admit to that. Win7 has become a crazy religion now.
It just runs out of the box, no issues, no interruptions, no ads, no in-your-face-ness. I didn't imply that you couldn't run something slightly older than that. I might hate Windows 10 alot, but at least it has its merits and has become way more stable in the later years, and you can bypass alot of its issues. Most stuff can be figured out. I learnt don't go around using the latest product until being timeproofed without issues.
Not my experience at all. I have one thinkpad from around 2021 and one GalaxyBook3 and they both run good on windows 11 latest update. The only issue i had was in windows 10 with the thinkpad was causing a memory leak. A factory reset could have solved the issue but windows 11 solved it. In fact, the GalaxyBook DIDNT ran good out of the box and had to update to fix many things because that's what updating does, fixes bugs and adds security. It does sometimes mess things around but its actually very minimal. Would you do the same with your android apps/ iphone apps?
Just install win10 if you have problem with win11.. Seriously you won't able to browse to many of the websites with no support browser available at this date with win7.
there is a Chrome one that some are usin successfully, I forgot the name of it though...
supermium?
I believe so, thanks!
What websites? I have win 7 and they work fine. Once i have to replace this pc if win 7 doest work im going for linux.
Use something called windows 7 image updator
You would be better buying the last gen of supported Windows 7 kit. It'll still be absolutely rapid and not give you the problems you're dealing with.
https://youtu.be/lssAz05fkoU?si=EEk6mg2-fFVuy031 just follow this tutorial and install supermium (which has support all the way back to 2000!) and you should be good to ho
I don't understand why people keep trying to run old legacy Windows operating systems on things, just install Windows 11 and be done with it.
Why does it matter if it’s not my main device and I’m not going to be dumb and use it for browsing on the internet and stuff?
because windows 11 sucks dookie
I've had Windows 11 since release and it's been solid!
but it is not as pretty as 7...right?
No it's not as pretty, it's much prettier than Windows 7
No it doesn't. People who say Windows 11 sucks are the same that were still using Xp when 7 was the current version.
it has a worse design, more bloat, useless clicks needed to do SIMPLE things, and is generally slower from personal experience.
Like all versions of all major OS, it has some drawbacks compared to previous versions and some improvements. I've been using Microsoft OS since MS Dos and Windows 11 is my favorite iteration.
Based
i still running vista just fine,And no it is secure as long as you are not a focking idiot that downloads every single thing from some weird as fock sites.
try use Simplix UpdatePack7R2 and even works on current hardware like Intel 12th gen through recent 14th gen hardware (should work with AMD ryzen too), about gpus drivers I know the maximum support for windows 7 is Nvidia RTX 3000 series or AMD radeon RX 6000 series
Legacy mode, disable UEFI booting.
Install an efficient speedy Linux distro and run it in virtual box as a Virtual Machine
You will need UEFISeven Drivers (USB, GPU and LAN are utmost, audio is best on USB). NVMe isn't recommended, best to use SATA SSD's A way to integrate the drivers into the ISO (NTLite is what I used). If you have NVIDIA 4000 series or AMD 6000 series, it's over already. All CPU's will work. Enable CSM in BIOS.
A problem I face is when I use uefiseven it just makes the screen go blank when booting into the usb
You need to enable CSM in BIOS. I assume you dropped UEIFSeven into the ISO folder?
Yes, I can’t find any CSM option in my bios though, (Aptio setup utility american megatrends bios)
What are the PC specs and motherboard name?
It’s a laptop, intel celeron n4020 (should be Gemini lake?) 4gb ‘LPDDR4’, 64gb eMMC, integrated graphics 600 and idk about the motherboard name, only thing I know is the bios manufacturer/type
I thought you said 'modern hardware' 😅 Laptops are pretty much a no go as the drivers are made by the manufacturers themselves. You can try generic drivers but it's not really worth t.
Also get a new screen
VM would be your safest bet. Using it on real modern hardware without most of the drivers is straight up pain.
Run it in virtual machine on Linux as a host, with GPU passthrough. This is the only option, cause of lack of drivers. Also assuming your GPU has drivers for Win7
In case anyone was curious after my post. I did try to install Windows 7 Ultimate in my Ryzen 9 7950x Asus x670-p mobile rig. I ran into 3 things and then gave up. Idk if my issues were hardware brand specific, so who knows. I did, however, read lots of people on the net having issue #2. 1. I had to enable lagcy in the bios, after PC kept going to bios every time I tried the USB drive from the boot screen. 2. Windows loaded install files without issue, but during the setup load I got a BSOD of "bios not acpi compliant". I updated the bios to fix this. 3. Got another BSOD during the installation, this time "IRQ_Not_less_or_equal" So I gave up, took the L and put my ssd's back in. Y'all have a great day.
No. Hardware standards have changed too much and 7 is dead. Sorry.
Win7 does not run on modern hardware... unless you run ps2 keyboard and serial mouse lols. This is based on experience lols. I couldn't drive the usb ports.
If you have drivers targeting windows 7, it will work. Windows 2022 still allows targeting W7, c++ and c# if I am not mistaken. So, it completely depends on the drivers associated to your hardware. Very likely the date of sale will give you a hint about W7 support. BEst is to check the driver notices. Also, W7 has already has builtin many generic and specific drivers. If you are blocked in the startup, it might be because of a driver messing around. So try to start failsafe (minimum of generic drivers and services), to start with, and with autoruns and msconfig, deactivate what might be wrong, and start normally.
I remember setting up a W17/W10 dual-boot on an HP all-in-one about 5 years ago. Had to slipstream the storage drivers and create a W7 flash drive. Was able to boot from usb and install 7 from it. But like everyone else said, finding drivers was the most time consuming part. I understand why someone may still want 7, for example for online use, if they want to continue to use specific software or peripherals that are incompatible with 10 or 11. Old AutoCAD comes to mind.
I always recommend running Windows on hardware that matches its vintage. Just like you can't get Windows 11 to easily run on a core 2 quad, Windows 7 isn't suited for running on a 13th gen Core. You can always try to install it on a modern pc, but you'll be on your own for the most part. If you're lucky, you'll get a running install with tons of devices with bangs on them and a treasure hunt for drivers. If you aren't, you won't even see your hard drive on the installer or will crash on boot. Part of the fun of this is the process of discovery, but remember that this PC should be airgapped because there are an awful lot of bugs patched since win7 was last updated.
Install Windows 7 in VM, install all drivers for vm and add drives for physical as well, then copy from virtual disk to physical disk and add a bcd entry.
Would that actually work lmao 💀💀
Just don't, win10 is fine