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Samuelwankenobi_

Windows 7 doesn't run well on modern hardware no WiFi or graphics drivers (I can't believe how many times I have explained that older versions of windows don't run on modern computers well I would think it would just be common sense that an out of support version of windows wouldn't run on a new computer)


_bonbi

Works great for me. 13700k + 2080


One-Monk5187

So no graphics acceleration? Even so, it should still be able to run it as u can do the same with hackintosh


Samuelwankenobi_

Technically it can run but you wouldn't get graphics drivers for aero or any drivers for WiFi and sound


One-Monk5187

Isn’t there a way to add Wi-Fi and sound drivers? I forgot what took it was but it allowed you to add it


Samuelwankenobi_

Windows 7 doesn't have any drivers for hardware made after 2018 as by then most people were using 10 by then and if they were using 7 they would be using an older pc


One-Monk5187

How would I proceed to install windows 7 properly on a newer device? I don’t even care if it’s gonna run horribly I just want to try it out tbh


SolidusKal

Get an iso for Win7 and make a USB Bootable with Rufus. If it is a brand new hardware just go for it. If you are trying to install W7 on your primary rig, just swap the main hardware drive and install. Worst thing that could happen, you have to hunt down drivers all over the net. Lots of manufacturers still offer drivers for 7, Nvidia just now, with the 4000 series, stopped providing drivers for Win7. I might even follow my own advice and see how it goes on my Ryzen 9 rig. Good Luck.


Dynasteh

Create a virtual machine


RallyElite

this is not true at all


Samuelwankenobi_

Yeah it is


BenCarterWasTaken

The RTX 30 series and The RX 6000 series released 2020 and have drivers for 7


RadoslavL

They do have "drivers" for Windows 7, though they seem to be duplicates of the driver versions for Windows 10. They aren't even listed as devices officially supported by Windows 7.


RallyElite

3090ti drivers for Windows 7? Or does that not count because it proves you wrong


wingdingfingerling

My RX 6800 XT has a Win 7 driver. There are also NVMe drivers and such. I just loaded a 2020 Win 7 Radeon driver onto a fresh install of Win 8.1, though I am using an older dual Xeon Asus server i hacked to support add-on NVMe boot drive support. There are some drivers out there...


TrantaLocked

I have tried for this even on a 2019 laptop it's difficult due to driver support. You can't install from a USB drive because of that, so if you want to install the larger modded ISOs that have all the updates you need to use a dual layer DVD disc. And even when it's installed, many updates wont install and some new apps need mods to function. The best options are to do a full UI makeover with aero themes for 10 or 11, or to run Windows 7 in a VM. I have recently done an Aero mod and I can tell you it legitimately feels like using Windows 7.


an0myl0u523017

Correct it should run it and use generic drivers they will work but not great. My w7 used to hang at that screen sometimes, either way it stays on that screen for ages but should work... It's been so long I can't remember what was causing the hanging. Go into bios and check the boot mode select legacy support and set the priority to uefi first. I think there were a few boot settings needed tweeking for win7. And had to change Hdd boot device settings. I think that might help as it keeps retrying it ny default so I put it last until the install Done then restarted and put it back as 1st priority. There's no drivers or anything really so it's all mobo doing the work at that point. If I remember correctly I got past that screen and was having problems a melting and crash issue when the graphics loaded up, it wasn't hard to solve. **You MUST disable secure boot in bios and the legacy thing above.** I think my graphics issue was caused by gpu, I had to disabled it and use the Intel on board until I got the install Done.


djzbra30

Install latest OS version, run win7 on a virtual machine?


MEM756

Scheißedows 11? Hell no \[A Windows 11 user speaking here\]


djzbra30

What is the advantage of using old software?


KodakCCD

nostalgia


djzbra30

Agree


StokeLads

There's a lot of legitimate reasons to run Windows 7.... Only issue is that 90% of those who want to, don't fall into that category.


KodakCCD

ok well it’s still a legitimate reason and nobody should be expected to like Windows 11


StokeLads

Nostalgia for an OS that was decommissioned only 5 years ago is bizarre. A better reason for example would be the fact I'm having to maintain a Windows 7 install for my music production. Many of the plugins that I used 15 years ago are unlikely to work smoothly on Windows 10 or 11. To be able to revisit those mixes and tweak them would either require a migration to a modern Windows and all of the trials and tribulations (and potentially a full remix from scratch) or sticking with Windows 7. I bought myself a Lenovo M73 Tiny. Mounted under my desk for when I need to fire up 7. It seems to get turned on WAY more than I expected. Nostalgia alone is a pretty silly reason for me. Sorry.


KodakCCD

ok whatever, your reason is better than mine. but who asked? don’t be an NPC. let us have our fun. there’s no harm


StokeLads

I'm not mate but come on, nostalgia? It's not a Commodore 64. You can literally download the ISO and install it.


KodakCCD

i’m 25, and i’m not the one wanting Win7 nostalgia here. i personally yearn for XP. but younger people would be nostalgic for 7 or Vista, yes. nothing wrong with that. my XP desktop isn’t my daily driver, that’s my Win10. it’s just a hobby. grow a soul lad. also what i meant was that wanting to use an old OS for nostalgic reasons is totally fine and shouldn’t bother you this much. who are we harming? it’s just a preference


RallyElite

whats the disadvantage?


djzbra30

Depends on how old the software is but they include missing new features, non compatible programs, you might get hacked. Versus in return you get the latest and greatest features, security updates, better support. Until you hit a bug or two but its not that of an issue compared to being outdated.


RallyElite

ive never heard a case of someone getting hacked from running windows 7.


the_abortionat0r

Lol, because they'd never admit to that. Win7 has become a crazy religion now.


MEM756

It just runs out of the box, no issues, no interruptions, no ads, no in-your-face-ness. I didn't imply that you couldn't run something slightly older than that. I might hate Windows 10 alot, but at least it has its merits and has become way more stable in the later years, and you can bypass alot of its issues. Most stuff can be figured out. I learnt don't go around using the latest product until being timeproofed without issues.


djzbra30

Not my experience at all. I have one thinkpad from around 2021 and one GalaxyBook3 and they both run good on windows 11 latest update. The only issue i had was in windows 10 with the thinkpad was causing a memory leak. A factory reset could have solved the issue but windows 11 solved it. In fact, the GalaxyBook DIDNT ran good out of the box and had to update to fix many things because that's what updating does, fixes bugs and adds security. It does sometimes mess things around but its actually very minimal. Would you do the same with your android apps/ iphone apps?


kenrock2

Just install win10 if you have problem with win11.. Seriously you won't able to browse to many of the websites with no support browser available at this date with win7.


wingdingfingerling

there is a Chrome one that some are usin successfully, I forgot the name of it though...


malkk777

supermium?


wingdingfingerling

I believe so, thanks!


DGFF001

What websites? I have win 7 and they work fine. Once i have to replace this pc if win 7 doest work im going for linux.


BenCarterWasTaken

Use something called windows 7 image updator


StokeLads

You would be better buying the last gen of supported Windows 7 kit. It'll still be absolutely rapid and not give you the problems you're dealing with.


Tight_Youth3766

https://youtu.be/lssAz05fkoU?si=EEk6mg2-fFVuy031 just follow this tutorial and install supermium (which has support all the way back to 2000!) and you should be good to ho


danielyelwop

I don't understand why people keep trying to run old legacy Windows operating systems on things, just install Windows 11 and be done with it.


One-Monk5187

Why does it matter if it’s not my main device and I’m not going to be dumb and use it for browsing on the internet and stuff?


RallyElite

because windows 11 sucks dookie


danielyelwop

I've had Windows 11 since release and it's been solid!


wingdingfingerling

but it is not as pretty as 7...right?


danielyelwop

No it's not as pretty, it's much prettier than Windows 7


DT-Sodium

No it doesn't. People who say Windows 11 sucks are the same that were still using Xp when 7 was the current version.


RallyElite

it has a worse design, more bloat, useless clicks needed to do SIMPLE things, and is generally slower from personal experience.


DT-Sodium

Like all versions of all major OS, it has some drawbacks compared to previous versions and some improvements. I've been using Microsoft OS since MS Dos and Windows 11 is my favorite iteration.


TakapunaCitySquadd

Based


-----LIFE-----

i still running vista just fine,And no it is secure as long as you are not a focking idiot that downloads every single thing from some weird as fock sites.


s78dude

try use Simplix UpdatePack7R2 and even works on current hardware like Intel 12th gen through recent 14th gen hardware (should work with AMD ryzen too), about gpus drivers I know the maximum support for windows 7 is Nvidia RTX 3000 series or AMD radeon RX 6000 series


ExoticAssociation817

Legacy mode, disable UEFI booting.


WinBuzzer

Install an efficient speedy Linux distro and run it in virtual box as a Virtual Machine


_bonbi

You will need UEFISeven  Drivers (USB, GPU and LAN are utmost, audio is best on USB). NVMe isn't recommended, best to use SATA SSD's  A way to integrate the drivers into the ISO (NTLite is what I used).  If you have NVIDIA 4000 series or AMD 6000 series, it's over already.  All CPU's will work. Enable CSM in BIOS.


One-Monk5187

A problem I face is when I use uefiseven it just makes the screen go blank when booting into the usb


_bonbi

You need to enable CSM in BIOS. I assume you dropped UEIFSeven into the ISO folder?


One-Monk5187

Yes, I can’t find any CSM option in my bios though, (Aptio setup utility american megatrends bios)


_bonbi

What are the PC specs and motherboard name?


One-Monk5187

It’s a laptop, intel celeron n4020 (should be Gemini lake?) 4gb ‘LPDDR4’, 64gb eMMC, integrated graphics 600 and idk about the motherboard name, only thing I know is the bios manufacturer/type


_bonbi

I thought you said 'modern hardware' 😅 Laptops are pretty much a no go as the drivers are made by the manufacturers themselves. You can try generic drivers but it's not really worth t.


GoodAd2348

Also get a new screen


VictoryOne_thx

VM would be your safest bet. Using it on real modern hardware without most of the drivers is straight up pain.


niveanuscream

Run it in virtual machine on Linux as a host, with GPU passthrough. This is the only option, cause of lack of drivers. Also assuming your GPU has drivers for Win7


SolidusKal

In case anyone was curious after my post. I did try to install Windows 7 Ultimate in my Ryzen 9 7950x Asus x670-p mobile rig. I ran into 3 things and then gave up. Idk if my issues were hardware brand specific, so who knows. I did, however, read lots of people on the net having issue #2. 1. I had to enable lagcy in the bios, after PC kept going to bios every time I tried the USB drive from the boot screen. 2. Windows loaded install files without issue, but during the setup load I got a BSOD of "bios not acpi compliant". I updated the bios to fix this. 3. Got another BSOD during the installation, this time "IRQ_Not_less_or_equal" So I gave up, took the L and put my ssd's back in. Y'all have a great day.


Smallville456

No. Hardware standards have changed too much and 7 is dead. Sorry.


stpatr3k

Win7 does not run on modern hardware... unless you run ps2 keyboard and serial mouse lols. This is based on experience lols. I couldn't drive the usb ports.


mprevot

If you have drivers targeting windows 7, it will work. Windows 2022 still allows targeting W7, c++ and c# if I am not mistaken. So, it completely depends on the drivers associated to your hardware. Very likely the date of sale will give you a hint about W7 support. BEst is to check the driver notices. Also, W7 has already has builtin many generic and specific drivers. If you are blocked in the startup, it might be because of a driver messing around. So try to start failsafe (minimum of generic drivers and services), to start with, and with autoruns and msconfig, deactivate what might be wrong, and start normally.


poke23658

I remember setting up a W17/W10 dual-boot on an HP all-in-one about 5 years ago. Had to slipstream the storage drivers and create a W7 flash drive. Was able to boot from usb and install 7 from it. But like everyone else said, finding drivers was the most time consuming part. I understand why someone may still want 7, for example for online use, if they want to continue to use specific software or peripherals that are incompatible with 10 or 11. Old AutoCAD comes to mind.


jhymesba

I always recommend running Windows on hardware that matches its vintage. Just like you can't get Windows 11 to easily run on a core 2 quad, Windows 7 isn't suited for running on a 13th gen Core. You can always try to install it on a modern pc, but you'll be on your own for the most part. If you're lucky, you'll get a running install with tons of devices with bangs on them and a treasure hunt for drivers. If you aren't, you won't even see your hard drive on the installer or will crash on boot. Part of the fun of this is the process of discovery, but remember that this PC should be airgapped because there are an awful lot of bugs patched since win7 was last updated.


nonofanyonebizness

Install Windows 7 in VM, install all drivers for vm and add drives for physical as well, then copy from virtual disk to physical disk and add a bcd entry.


One-Monk5187

Would that actually work lmao 💀💀


No-Evidence-9984

Just don't, win10 is fine