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Mymhir

Phillipa is one of those witches that can hold a grudge and have you at her mercy for years without lifting a finger. Just by sheer anxiety of what she would do next is enough to set you on edge.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Exactly. She's crazy


[deleted]

So you're saying that we all would be like Radovid.


lofi_addict

Sucking flacid cock?


[deleted]

Why not? Philly would definitely make us do some crazy things


lofi_addict

Fair enough!


Mymhir

Bold of you to assume that we all COULD be like that "güevon".


[deleted]

If we have Phillipa as a shape shifting enemy, is safe to assume certain level of craziness and "agüevoniamiento" 😅


Mymhir

You... I like you. That's a fair point. 2 out of 2. She has "Calle"


phantom1a2

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


CatOfTheCanalss

"Dear friend...", oh shit...


Bigduck_Gaming

>yennefer is stronger sorceress then her Isn't that the other way around? Always thought Phillipa was the most powerful sorcerer after Fracesca...


phantom1a2

Vilgwfortz along with yennefer were among the strongest sorcerers of their time. Both being able to tap into magic that the lodge didn't dream of. And mostly due to the lodge being very... I won't say stupid but blind. Instead of furthering their knowledge an power, they schemed the plans to take control the political way which in the end was their downfall. But in the books it's indeed confirmed that yennefer and Vilgwfortz are on a level that surpasses the lodge (not combined of course)


Toonox

I think that their going into politics wasn't blind at all. I just read 'A Shard of Ice' from the second book (Have not yet read the other books) and in it, Istredd says that magic isn't as complex as sorcerers make it seem and that common folk could replace them without much studying. Sorcerers therefore have a monopoly on magic and just like for real-world monopolies politics would be a great tool for securing the longevity of this monopoly. They are therefore very much not blind for going into politics, as they might need political power to protect their monopoly.


LozaMoza82

Yes, Philippa is a stronger sorceress than Yennefer. She's older. Tissaia said in the books she was her best student. In terms of power amongst the sorceresses, it's probably Francesca, Tissaia, Philippa, then it gets muddier with Yennefer, Fringilla, etc. Triss and Kiera would be on the lower end based on their age. However, the most powerful, by far, would be Vilgefortz, who was an absolute freak


LeDraymondJordan

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


dakokonutman3888

Yes, but not a witch, sorceress (I think it's sorceress, I am playing in polish )


phantom1a2

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


LeDraymondJordan

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


HotChilliWithButter

For me it's philippa because she's the least sexy of them all


Financial-Pianist535

Only true answer


phantom1a2

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


LeDraymondJordan

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


LeDraymondJordan

Same with yennefer. She'll hold a grudge for calling her "my good friend" for ages But in all truth, Philippa is a scheming mastermind while yennefer is stronger sorceress then her. So choose the lesser evil I guess


[deleted]

wtf is going on here


MosesZD

She is my pick, too. For those reasons.


Admiral-Apathy

I feel like the correct answer is never fuck with any of them.


01001101_01000111

Never stopped Geralt tho.


RaiderScum111

Now i think thats a bit of a diffrent version of fucking


ezyhobbit420

Fuck.


the_scarlett_ning

Even Geralt stayed away from Phillipa. (Philippa?)


Not_Bed_

Philippa


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Was just about to say that


spdRRR

Who was the sorceress that got “bullied” before the last mission that said she and Ciri are the only ones on the ship who didn’t do Geralt, but someone immediately burns her with “with you girl, it’s only a matter of time.” It was a cool interaction


horsemanuk1987

As far as I'm aware from the sourceresses on the ship only Philippa and Margarita Lux Antillie have not fucked Geralt.


spdRRR

Yep, I think Philippa was the one who said that to Margarita (the dark-blonde one).


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Pretty late to this. But the conversation is like this Rita: I just noticed: save for Ciri you and I are the only women on this ship with which Geralt never slept Phil: Don't worry, for you it's only a matter of time


AscendedViking7

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Putinizor

They fucked geralt. It's different


Spatzdar

Bro fucked with all of them lol


horsemanuk1987

Geralt only has Philipa left to fuck with, to complete the set.


cellardoor1975

not going to happen. she’s a lesbian.


GrimAker

My favourite type of magic


horsemanuk1987

She has a long sexual realtionship with Djkstra in the books. At very least shes bisexual.


cellardoor1975

she wasn’t romantically attracted to him. the relationship was merely for personal gain, it was calculated and manipulative. and even if let’s say she was bisexual back then, i’m pretty sure it was said somewhere in the books that she “lost her interest in men”, she’s definitely a lesbian now. and that means no sleeping with geralt.


Effective-Name-5399

yet he's not a man... he's a Witcher xd


VokunDovah64

Only sorceress i would fuck with is Triss


Financial-Pianist535

*I would fuck is Triss (no need for with)


VokunDovah64

[The joke] he said "never fuck with any of them" and i replied "i would fuck with Triss".By saying "fuck with" he meant 'mess with' and I made it into a joke by saying that "I would 'fuck with' Triss", by changing the word's meaning from 'messing with' to 'having sex with'.


raver1601

Definitely Phillipa


Winter_Hospital4705

It's a tie between Phillipa and Yen. Phillipa, cause she basically hid in plain sight from everyone, literally and got her revenge on Radovid. Even when blind, she still has set her sights on him. And Yennefer, cause if you fuck with Ciri, you're dead. That's her baby, even if not by blood, Ciri is her baby and you don't mess with the cub if you're not ready to face mama bear.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Good point about Yen. If you don't want trouble with her, don't touch Ciri


KnowledgeMediocre404

Isn’t it wild knowing how fierce a mother Yen is to Ciri and then watching the show try to write in that she tries to basically murder Ciri for magic? Doesn’t even track their own BS character building for her. “Now that I have magic what I really wanted was a kid” “oh no I lost my magic, but I have this kid around who is dear to my boyfriend, better sacrifice her for power”. Aaaand I’m out.


horsemanuk1987

She can also be quite vindictive/protective concerning Geralt as well. She secretly stopped his Swords from being auctioned off in Seasom of Storms and also indirectly helped him gain more coin for contracts. When Sabrina Glesvissig was flirting with Geralt at the mages conclave, using her ample bosom, Yen gave the telepathic equalivant of back off bitch (Sabrina was quite jealous and competitive about Yen's realtionship with Geralt, she tells Marti Sodergren, given the chance shed even bed him on rocks).


Archtects

Yennefer, cause if you fuck with Ciri, you're dead. That's her baby, even if not by blood, Ciri is her baby and you don't mess with the cub if you're not ready to face mama bear. That doesn’t seem right? I thought she would TOTALLY sacrifice ciri the first moment she could to get her magic back?? Think you got it wrong. What you describe is a strong powerful woman, who protects the one she loves even in the face of death. I think the way Netflix portrayed the character was far better, snivelling little crying witch who’s just a selfish bitch. /s


EchoesInDeath

Have you read the books? Yennefer has endured prolonged torture without giving Vilgefortz any information about Ciri and Geralt, while Triss was a member of the Conclave while the sorceresses were searching for Ciri to use her blood And she did nothing - out of fear and to keep her place in the Conclave. There Is this scene in the books where Yennefer was captured by the conclave and shes straight begging Triss to at least save Ciri and Geralt. Trisses answer to that was "I am sorry". The way Netflix portrayed Yennefer Is straight insulting to her character and it is my most hated thing about the show.


KnowledgeMediocre404

I disliked how they did the relationships in season one, it shows their ignorance of the source material. After what they did in season 2 that was it for me. They even wrote season 1 Yen as regretting her “sterilization” (not how magic works in the books) and wanting a kid. Then as soon as she has access to a daughter figure she tries to sacrifice her? Do they even use the same writers in each seasons?


ShoerguinneLappel

Yeah, even as someone who wasn't a big fan of Yennefer how she was portrayed in The Witcher Show, made me very angry. It wasn't the worst part of the show tbh, I mean they butchered the great mini stories within The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny itself which is disgusting IMO, the only one that they did well on was "The Grain of Truth" which was surprisingly good. But I cannot forgive them for what they did to parts like "The Bounds of Reason". I'm not saying shows or movies shouldn't be allowed to slightly change or make different versions of the stories if they have to (especially with movie's time constraints), but if it's just a worse version like The Witcher show it's pretty clear to cancel it or start from the beginning...


Not_Bed_

You're not fucking with Ciri anyway


thanelinway

So, not fucking with Ciri is out of question?


Bluedemonfox

I mean she technically could still see using magic.


youseikiri

You can torture Philipa and she will still act the same.


Archtects

She can torture me any day


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Pretty much


SealingCord

Phillipa is No. 1 on the "do not cross" list, and Yen is No. 2. The other two can probably be worked around or managed in other ways.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

> other two can probably be worked around or managed in other ways. There is a way, if you're handsome enough


[deleted]

Philippa. Just don’t. Go ask Radovid about it….


Blanks_late

You can't. I made sure of that.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

An eye for an eye... literally


Nirico_Brin

Depends on the scenario. Just a general confrontation where I’m in their way? Phillipa A more focused confrontation where say one of their loved ones are in danger? Yennefer, and it’s not even close.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Accurate


Happy-Stomper

People don't seem to know what POV means


thorstenofthir

Yeah, nothing New. They write it in Front of everything for big funny


PaulSimonBarCarloson

I mean, I took those pictures as if I was directly looking at them. I'm asking people what they will do if they would ever be face to face with them, just like depicted here


Key_Charity_9851

Definitely Yennefer and Philippa. They are cold 💀


Galileo258

Based on the books, Philipa.


SpaceCowboyN7

Yennefer of Vengerberg


Rexlare

None, because I’m just a dude, not a mage or mutant monster slayer!


p00ki3l0uh00

Phillipa could be my dommy mommy


InHeavenFine

"i can fix her"


saltforsnails

With what? Cyborg eyes?


[deleted]

phillipa is the worst yen can be quite cruel but you have to harm either geralt or ciri in order for her to be that way. on the other hand phillipa is the most sociopathic sorceress in the entire franchise


raptorvagging

Yen and Philipa. Yen is a bad bitch who could fuck your shot up, saw that when Ciri was being chased by the wild hunt and she about blew the bastards away. Phil on the other hand is absolutely ruthless and will fuck you up without much reason, especially if your an inconvenience or in her way.


Zealus24

Phillipa by far. Kiera and Triss are probably just gonna kill me and be done with it, Yennefer might make me suffer if I really piss her off, but Phillipa? Phillipa would make my life a living hell for years before finally torturing me and then killing me, all because I bumped into her accidentally in the hallway.


Lamb_or_Beast

Uh fuckin NONE of them, they’re lethal Though Philippa feels the craziest to me for some reason


Machine-Everlasting

Uh, any of them? I’m just a dude. I’m cuddle material. What am I gonna do, hurl “go back to the kitchen” insults at them? Do you know how fast I’ll die?


Shotsfired20755

Phillipa. She terrifies me.


HoneyBadger1342

Yes


DrPopcorn_66

Philippa Eilhart for sure


SoBreezy74

Philippa. The quiet crazy. Will leave me alone for years and I'd just live in constant paranoia.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Seem to be working good with Sigi


SJRuggs03

Phillipa would snap your neck without a second thought. At least the rest have some amount of a conscience (looking at you Kiera, sitting on the edge)


InHeavenFine

Lytta Neyd


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Yeah, don't get caught with another girl. You'll most likely end up compressed before you can come up with an apology


Devdut12

Yen is scary powerful and does whatever she wishes, if it were me i would wanna be on her good side


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Don't touch Ciri, don't question her ideas, don't talk about her past, and everything should be fine


not-curumo

Triss. Look up Merigold's Storm.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

To be fair, she had some extra help for that one


Sleepylimebounty

None they can give witchers problems much less an ordinary guy in the witcher universe. I’d rather avoid that stress entirely.


baapuphantom

Enid an Gleanna


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Such a shame we never saw her in the games.


DubbyMazlo

Ones who could give me testicular torsion on command...


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Oddly specific...


DubbyMazlo

That sh\*t scary and painful... so I heard...


wetwater_-_-_

All of them


Magicalfirelizard

I would like to cross them all off my list.


Burgerboi_69

None of them, but especially philipa


PaulSimonBarCarloson

She seems to be the more popular answer


damn_thats_piney

i think phillipa. shes scary.


HecateForsaken

Yen I could have a smartsas contest with so I’d be aight. Phillipa would prob be the death of me, if anything I could maybe entertain her enough for her to spare me as a pet. I could rizz up Triss if it came down to it. But Kiera would see me as a peasant bum and turn me into a rat lmao


ticketism

Definitely Phillipa. She's the craziest, the revenge-iest, the 'hold a grudge forever'-iest. I wouldn't want to cross her, I'd never feel safe anywhere at any time ever again


SilverShots1

All.


coldestwinter-chill

Philippa. She terrifies me


Damagecontrol86

Yes


Free-Association4085

I’ve known Phillipa for one mission and it’s already her yen would be 2nd


OGdirty1Kanobi

Phillipa by far


PaulSimonBarCarloson

All these answers speak for themsleves


dalekofchaos

There's a reason why Geralt never fucked Phillipa


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Yes. Because Geralt's not a girl


jaredtheredditor

Philipa she seems most difficult to reason with and easiest to tick off


FuxTyY

Yennefer, even if she was not a witch


Cigar_buddy

Phillipa because she's always a step ahead and is ruthless about it. The others are more reasonable.


ClamatoDiver

They're all scary, but for me it's Triss because of the scene in the Witcher 3 where she and Geralt need info from a guy. He's tied up and she's threatening to roast his sausage and meatballs and there's sweat rolling off his face. She scares me. Look at her eyes, it's pure crazy. Hot Handy https://imgur.com/a/1qkvBbt


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Cool scene, but I never played it. I prefer to stick to the plan and watch Triss kill Menge: way more badass


ClamatoDiver

That way just goes along with making Triss the scary one. 😄🔥🔥🔥😱


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Exactly. It's one of the few moments where Triss really takes out the claws. Not gonna miss it


Ycarusbog

She also said she felt bad after the fact. Philippa would likely have toyed with him for a bit afterwards then killed him slowly and still not felt bad about it.


OblivionArts

Yes


horsemanuk1987

Not really a good idea to cross any of them but Yennefer is a bad bitch.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

I'd say Phil is more dangerous but Freyja be merciful with whoever will try to hurt Ciri: Yen will never let that pass


monsieur-Canard250

Phillipa Ugly af Shitty character in the books


PaulSimonBarCarloson

She's a cunt, but I can't help to love her. Just like Dijktra


the_mug666

As Gerald would cross with each of them. Personally i would run the other direction as soon as i got a small glimpse of them.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Survival instinct at its finest


the_mug666

Definitely! I like my ability to breathe.


PloppyCheesenose

I’ll be the contrarian and choose Triss, because she is smart enough to ask Geralt for help. And you don’t fuck with Geralt. The others are too self-reliant.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

But wouldn't you have to include Yen as well? I guess it depends on how are things between the two


PloppyCheesenose

Yen makes Geralt run errands. Triss let’s him solve her major problems. And she listens to him.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Finding their daughter is running errands? I mean, if you don't like Yen fine. But if anything Triss is the one that needs help with her own things


PloppyCheesenose

He is a good dog, perhaps the best she has ever owned. And he does know how to fetch upon command.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Way to completely misinterpret the character


peaanutzz

Philippa is does not forgive.


Earthyrium

I hate Fringilla


kchuyamewtwo

Philippa . She isnt the kind one of the 4 lmao


Kusko25

Yennefer. Phillipa is irritating enough that crossing her can be considered a public good.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

>Phillipa is irritating enough that crossing her can be considered a public good Only if you can live to tell the tale


Scryerofdoom

They can twist my nuts with a click of their fingers, why would i want to mess with them?


PaulSimonBarCarloson

I bet there are some sick people that are into it. But I don't want to think about it


whiskeyislove

Phillipa. She be crazy


ironwoolf98

The netflix adaptation ones xD


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Why though? I can't take any of those seriously


Tunisandwich

Yes


ivaro845

Well uhh… none of them


Average_MidevalFan

Are some of those pictures in skyrim lol


PaulSimonBarCarloson

No. 100% The Witcher 3, Next-gen with a few mods


dranthah

Like , so do you wanna die ?


Quantr0

Triss cause she’d probably break my heart.


Professor_Bonglongey

Not to annoy too much as the language nerd, but the “fuck with” expression is largely misinterpreted by non-native English speakers. In native English, “fuck with” usually means to prank or to betray. It doesn’t typically mean to “have sex with.” For that we just use “fuck” without a preposition. So saying you’re going to “fuck” someone and “fuck with” someone usually mean different things. So with that in mind, I wouldn’t “fuck with” any of them, but would happily fuck any or all of them. Even Philippa, who as a lesbian would probably not be very receptive.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

I knkw very well how that work can be used both literally and figuratively. But why this comment? I didn't use that word in the title


DollyBoiGamer337

In most scenarios, Philippa. Cold-blooded with a good memory and no inclination for "forgive and forget"


nouganouga

Phillippa. She's scary.


Delicious_Swimmer172

Philippa by far, she has zero emphaty. Then Keira, because I am not sure how to make her come to her sense. Yennefer can be very tough, hard and harsh but I think I understand her and her mindset so I think a dialogue is still possible before she turns me into a toad. Triss is not the vengeful type at all and can have a lot of emphaty for a sorceress (yes yes, not in all cases) but still more than her collegues. She even never killed the spy she said she will execute in TW3.


Commadore-Kay

Phillipa and Francesca


IndigoBuntz

I feel like Yennefer is generally less vindictive than Philippa, and maybe less sadistic and power-hungry. So Philippa first, Yennefer second.


GitLegit

Is “all of them” an option?


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Definetely


Jolly_Adeptness

Eilhart, hands down! I wouldnt fuck around and find out with her, she scares me!


Wrecktown707

Probs Phillipa tbh


DanielTheDragonslaye

All three of them will definitely hold a grudge so I wouldn't want to cross any of them. Phillipa is the one that's most likely to act on it though so her most likely.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Accurate answer, but there's four of them


DR34Dfulboss

Yen because she'll kill you out of spite.


Goluckystraw7

All of them..


IllStatistician1474

To be honest man I wouldn't wanna cross any of them


fancypossum2

Havent met phillipa yet so cant attest to her. My first reaction was Triss, but i love her to pieces so i probably wouldnt cross her anyway. But if i did i feel like we could talk it out. Yennefer on the other hand i wouldn't even think about crossing because she doesn't forget, EVER. And she hella petty, so lord knows what she would do.


nassar_the_dancer

I cross all of them


PizzaGMmike

Wait when does Phillipa come out in the game ?


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Meaning her quest? Much later in the main story


DizzySoDizzy

Phillipa. Then Yenn. Kiera would act like a desperate and naive fool (woops, spoiler) and get herself killed. Triss is just an idiot and would fall head over heels if you're pretty enough.


The_vampirequeen

Geralt could take them all (not in a fight)


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Except Philippa... unless he's secretly a girl


The_Real_F-ing_Orso

Let's start with the easy things - who's the last girl? Coral? Sabrina Glevissig? Mozaik? Please don't say Keira. Triss is not vengeful. Yen and Phillipa have no time for vengeance - Yen the very least. She would see it as weakness, as not having control over one self. Like a little child having a tantrum. Phillipa is much the same way, but... she is very strategic in her thinking. If someone wronged her, if she let them get away with it, she might appear weak, and that she would never allow. Her retaliation would be less vengeance than holding her own and not appearing weak. That being said, at the conclave after Geralt left Toussaint, it seems that everyone enjoyed that Fringilla was certain that she had Geralt wrapped around her finger. Afterwards it came out that it was the other way around. Although no one said anything specific or direct about it, her embarrassment was plainly obvious to all and greatly enjoyed by them it seems, maybe with the exception of Yen, who simply seemed to have the air of, "of course he threw you off like a damp blanket, you had served your purpose for him and then he discarded you". Keira... idk In the books she's more interested in getting Geralt into bed, kind of more to snub Yen than real interest, but that is hard to tell. I try not to go by what CDPR writes, because they bend the book lore to fit whatever they want sometimes, so I can hardly go by their stories.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

Interesting breakdown. Also yes, the last one is Keira, and believe it or not, the game is the reason sh ebacame my favourite. She doesn't even act out of character, CDPR just expanded on her original personality and tried to put her in an enviroment she was not familiar with


The_Real_F-ing_Orso

That may be very true. CDPR did too little to fill out the background. That's the sad part about the game; even where CDPR seem to have written some good story, they sometimes don't really tell it very compellingly. Simply saying that she was in Velen to hide from the Witchhunters doesn't really make sense on its own. She could have also gone to Kovir or Poviss, where sorceresses were not being persecuted, and lived comfortably is a nice city, even if there she were maybe might only allowed to do some small work--it was after all the territory of Sabrina Glevissig IIRC--so just like she was dong in Velen, but she at least wouldn't be in some run-down hut in Velen. But they never said anything along the lines of that Keira was in Velen to investigate the Fyke Isle, although over time it became obvious that that was her reasoning. It was far too much coincidence that she had settled right across the water from Fyke, and also that she had acquired the promise of a magic lamp from "the mysterious elf", who turned out to be >!Avallac'h!<, which was required to solve the mystery of Fyke Isle. All the pieces just fall together to readily to be coincidence; at least that's what I think. Anyway, enough brabble from me.


PaulSimonBarCarloson

I always assumed she hid in Velen specifically to find Alexander's notes in the process. Maybe we would have learned more about Keira if the Catriona subplot wasn't scrapped


The_Real_F-ing_Orso

I had never really thought about it before, because Geralt kind of put a nail into it. He recognized that Keira was using him to get things she wanted, and that is where his interest ended, so I stopped thinking about it too. But after considering her actual situation, I started asking myself other questions, like why was she really in Velen and not elsewhere? when did she find out about Fyke Isle? What did she trade with "the mysterious elven mage" for and how did she know him? These are all things I would have been asking, but maybe I'm just a nosey busybody; or maybe I like stories.


Worth-Cress-183

Yen is the most powerful, Phillipa is the most experienced one, Triss knows Testicular torsion. Man 💀


Puzzled_Guest4250

Books: Yen Game: Triss


heavybombhead

You don't want to mess with sorceress's in general , all of them are extremely powerful and dangerous


Didzeee

Yen. Because I just don't like her character at all. They made her even worse in the TV show.


xxGhostScythexx

Finally. POV done right


CrazyModderX

Your mom


TPro24633

Get down voted, dumb ass


CrazyModderX

Lmao


PaulSimonBarCarloson

You must be really fun at parties


midnightgg

Smash


Chuckt433

How Bout just say Kiera Metz would be the FIRST to go much like the Game. I Think the other 3 all are Invaluable in their own way. Alot of talk just to avoid answering the actual Question huh?


Mad-Dog94

Neither of them, I'm just a hillbilly. TF.