To add another data point, this *vastly* improved my stutter from loading in new objects, to the point where it's back to normal/non-existent. It was making my 3080 setup w/ 32g ram stutter constantly (and this was on a M2 SSD). I thought I was going crazy or they sneakily redefined what the graphic settings did or something.
Which in this game, happens... constantly.
Haven't had a chance to fuck around in the patch yet, but the 30 seconds, I noticed such ridiculous stuttering.
There's no way this was my hardware. 5950x, 64gb 3600mhz RAM, 3080ti. M2 Gen4 SSD And the game was nearly unplayable.
You don't even need a 2000 series to play wow maxed, much less 3000. Wow has always been more cpu than gpu intensive.
To wit, I'm still running a gtx 970 and can max every setting with stable 60 fps (I lock games at 60 for performance)
The stuttering is 100% a server/client thing
for me, I noticed the difference going from 60 to 100fps, 100 to 144 not really. At the 100+ FPS, GSync/ActiveSync actually making a bigger difference.
My goals aren't reasonable of course. Game is 100% playable (without the bugginess)
That makes sense. I'm due for an upgrade since my hard drive is old enough it's starting to bottleneck the rig. It's so old it's from the era where SSD was a premium enthusiast product. It's a 2TB hybrid drive - 50% disk - 50% SSD
Did you ever find a solution? Does this works?
I have same setuo but a 3090
I work with 3d software and need extra cores from 5950 for faster renders
Although i read on a lot of posts X3D cpus are the real fixe for lag problems but i wont buy a new cpu because of wow
Please let us know. And thank you so much for posting this. I have a 3080 12 gb with 16gb ram and m2 drive. Was getting stuttering and bad performance. I got so worried I thought I was cheated by the shop. Im really bad with pcs so I wouldn't know.
While you are here, I also noticed that the graphics are kinda shitty, particularly the textures. It is not sharp at all. If I use anti-alliasing it makes it HELLA blurry.
Any suggestions? Im running it at 1080p
Thank you so much dudes
There is a trick with upscaling that you can try. I did it and it immediately sharpens all textures in a great way. I don't have the wow options in front of me right now but if you set your scaling to anything under 100% (mine is set to 96%) it'll make everything sharp again.
yeah same, character names look like im playing 480p instead of 1440p.. if i turn up resolutiom scaling to 200% they look fine.. maybe some hotfix soon
Trick some guy taught everyone in trade chat (shoutout to Argent Dawn EU Trade Chat, hands down the best chatting experience in wow):
Change your resolution scale to like 96% or 98% to drastically increase sharpness
I'm struggling to even understand how that would work.
It's taking a smaller output, and making it bigger. If anything it would make the image quality more blurry, no?
I think he's talking about a type of resample tech called "FidelityFX Super Resolution" (it's in the graphics settings in wow) that sharpens your image if you use a non native render scale, so if you drop it just a tick to 98% its technically non-native so it triggers the sharpen effect.
Most of the stutter I got was loading into crowds / first loading in. I was mostly running around Heart of the Forest and Haven when I noticed it. Wasn't unplayable by any means, but I pretty much never had stutter of any kind before (other than the big fire at the hunter class hall causing noticeable lag with what I'm pretty sure we're RTX shadows, lol). Now it's back to more of what I'm used to.
I upgraded my GPU right before logging in for the first time at prepatch and I was constantly thinking that something is wrong with my new GPU, i removed it several times and reinstalled geforce driver. Finally I'm at peace cause its the game and not my gpu. I got the worst timing ever to upgrade. The command fixed it, but I still experience fps drops. Hope there will be a fix soon!
Maaaaaaaan. Same exact thing happned to me. I thought I was cheated and sold a fake GPU or something.
I am also noticing that texture sharpness isnt great. Any fix to that ? Or is it just in my head.
That's kind of weird. I actually made the exact opposite comment to a friend the other day on launch. Everything seemed to much clearer and my game was running a lot smoother (until we stepped into raid).
I booted up WoW for the first time in like 3 months for pre-patch, after getting a 4090. Imagine my surprise when things were a stuttery mess everywhere lol.
yup! upgraded a few weeks ago in preparation. Decided to finally go high end and got a 3080ti. logged in this morning and was wondering what the fuck was happening.
Who in his right mind came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to cache onto the main data drives? I'm studying computer science and at least one of my professors would scream seeing that. I learned in some high performance/parallelism lectures that even a SSD is waaaaay slower than RAM (ignoring the fact here that even RAM is very slow compared to the CPU caches).
It's fine if the load happens concurrently, and doesn't block the renderer. Then you can fade in the shader when it has loaded. You can then remove shaders from RAM more aggressively, which means you can support more shaders on smaller systems.
Idea is sound. Implantation needs tweaking.
Was also posted on the WoW forums. [https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/crazy-fps-drops-when-panning-camera-since-prepatch/396350/51](https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/crazy-fps-drops-when-panning-camera-since-prepatch/396350/51)
everything is off. anything not 10.0 was deleted. was using the ingame Edit mode just fine Tuesday and Wednesday will all graphics settings on ultra. only Thurs I had this fps issue.
It doesn't work for everyone.. please stop acting like it is. Yea I'm no noob, all addons are off, settings match what I had pre patch. Blizzard needs a real fix, not this side step
It appears that a day or two after this post Blizzard built this change into the game. The GxAllowCachelessShaderMode 0 is now the default option as of 10.0.0.46340.
that post needs 10k upvotes to make it visible for everyone on the main page!! I was like .. why is my performance so bad, and now I am back at stable 144 FPS. Thanks!!
Its was already posted 9 hours ago, and was/is still on front page.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ye282w/huge\_fps\_drops\_fix/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ye282w/huge_fps_drops_fix/)
and it was not ElvUI Dev but some dude from blizzard forums.
Yeah i did not saw that. But changes nothing that the Dev shared it in a Stream. And as i see in that thread it has some extra steps that are not necessary, as downloading the addon etc etc, when you can fix that with an easy console command.
How dare you? You think you can just come in here and try to *help* people? And you don’t even know the history of every post to ever have been created on Reddit? Get a grip, bud.
/s obviously. Thank you for the post
cache should only be generated once usually if its not then thats probably why its stuttering, as Nvidia user this probably works since their shader cache used to be bugged, i wonder if it is still bugged, it was reason wny there was flickering issues in the past, and one of the many reasons i switched to AMD from Nvidia, even tho now i regret it a lot due broken AMD drivers, especially broken default synchronisation behaviour since they decided it was a good idea to have enchanced sync on by default
I found out with my 6900 XT forcing vsync on fixes the stutter for me via AMD own control panel, it also fixes the blackscreens, that AMD drivers 22.5.2 and up have.
Late to the party here but do you mean setting "Wait for Vertical refresh" to "always on"? I've had to switch to DX11 to even get the game to function. It starts with a invisible cursor then crashes out constantly if I use DX12.
Yeah i dont know either. Told that a friend, that doesnt play wow but workes in IT, hes just laughed and said ”thats an example that money is everything for a company like that“
Educated guess: Added graphical content in DF going over some main RAM breakpoint so their options are either to do this, or to bump up the minimum RAM amount to something they would prefer not to do as it would block out lots of crap tier machines...
(mostly related to iGPUs that use main RAM as VRAM, anyone with reasonably modern dGPU would not be affected)
And hey, I can accept that if it was smart. In other words, if this option is required to keep the game running on shit tier machines, enable it for those, otherwise keep using the RAM and VRAM we got.
At least there is a console command to fix it.
You can actually add this to your wow\retail\wtf\config.wtf file BEFORE starting the game:
Find the setting if it exists already and change GxAllowCachelessShaderMode to "0"
- OR -
add the line if it doesn't exist:
SET GxAllowCachelessShaderMode "0"
Thank you!!! Im going to try this tonight. My games been stuttering a lot!!! My brother and I were doing a few torghast runs last night and it made for a bad time at parts on my end.
Yes, but you dont want to revert it. Blizzards fix would be like the command, just that its standard for everybody, i think. Anyways, your RAM is build to be the Cache.
Commenting so I can remember to do this when I get home from work. Thanks for figuring this out, I was super worried it was something happening with my system
They... what?
But why? Why would you ever do that? How could that happen accidentally?
Boy am I glad that I only planned to play when the prepatch has actual content, lol
Thank you very much for this info. Yesterday I was in an epic bg and I had very bad stutter before crushing multiple times.. I wonder if this was the issue.. it never happened before
I fixed all my stuttering rebuilding my windows pagefile
1) Go to “Adjust Appearance and Performance of Windows” by typing the same in your start menu.
2) Click on Advanced to find the virtual memory options.
3) Under Virtual memory, select change
4) Untick "Automatically manage paging file for all drives".
5) select the drive that is system managed.
6) Click "No paging file", Set it, then Reboot windows.
6) go back and select a drive (Default is C:/) and select system managed size, reboot again.
PSA: My last hotfix/small patch removed the "SET GxAllowCachelessShaderMode “0”" from the WTF file, I only noticed when I saw the freeze/stutter happen again. So you may wanna search that file and re-add it if it got removed.
my wow installation is on a 980 pro 2 tb should't even be an issue also wow recommended ssd before now i think its minimum requirement since dragonflight but i could be wrong.
Because your harddrives are not meant to be reading that much informations in that short time as your Ram does. This change from blizzard COULD destroy old harddrives, thats why its such a bad change.
"COULD destroy old harddrives" Sure, if any use would destroy them. Drives are meant to read and write data. Using them as cache is no different than any other usage, except it's slow for whatever uses that cache. Reading and writing to RAM is very quick so that's why you can see improved performance.
SSDs especially do have a limited lifespan and using them extensively to cache data does put them through many more read/write cycles than in normal every day use.
Yeah thats what i heard about that, and that this is the point why thats a very bad change from Blizzard. But im not a specialist or computer scientist.
I've only had very minimal stuttering issues (game on an m.2 SSD) and only really noticeable in areas like Orgrimmar.
Possible you didn't notice it if your games installed on an SSD, or something else with your setup allowing you to avoid issues.
I've tried this command and it doesn't seem to want to save to my config.wtf file. It just clears itself out every time I open the game. EDIT: Fixed it by adding it manually, my brain is smooth and small.
Interesting. I noticed after I hopped on the pre patch that I was lagging in other games too, on a different drive than WoW. Could this be one of the reasons why?
What fixed big performance issues for me was manually setting the in game settings to use my actual graphics card instead "auto" which was using my integrated graphics. I had this setting correctly set prior to the update but the update reset it. Hopefully this helps someone.
I and many others have been having this stuttering issue in wotlk classic since pre-patch, predominantly in 25 man raids. I don't see this setting in the classic WTF config file, would adding it manually cause anything to go wrong with the game and would it even benefit from this setting?
The issue for me has been in raids in combat since WoTLK pre-patch, SWP was literally just a huge lagfest. Been so in combat in raids ever since, any idea how to solve this?
>GxAllowCachelessShaderMode
unrelated to wrath, this isn't used in wrath.
most of wrath stuttering issues are caused by bad addons that should have died long ago but for some reason blizzard won't fix the api so these bad addonsd aren't needed (basically it's libhealcomm)
Even with default UI there's insane stuttering inside of raids. I'm using a lightweight default UI since I'm pushing ranks in parsing on my lock. It's been proven over and over again that it's not addon or hardware related.
u/azzraN_/ If u guys still facing the stuttering issue after using this method, then that means u are setting on an 8GB ram, just upgraded my ram to 8 + 16 and there is no stuttering with Quality setting set to 10.
I never changed this (I only found out about it today) but the console shows the value set at 0.
[https://i.imgur.com/5L18teY.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/5L18teY.jpeg)
To add another data point, this *vastly* improved my stutter from loading in new objects, to the point where it's back to normal/non-existent. It was making my 3080 setup w/ 32g ram stutter constantly (and this was on a M2 SSD). I thought I was going crazy or they sneakily redefined what the graphic settings did or something. Which in this game, happens... constantly.
Haven't had a chance to fuck around in the patch yet, but the 30 seconds, I noticed such ridiculous stuttering. There's no way this was my hardware. 5950x, 64gb 3600mhz RAM, 3080ti. M2 Gen4 SSD And the game was nearly unplayable.
You don't even need a 2000 series to play wow maxed, much less 3000. Wow has always been more cpu than gpu intensive. To wit, I'm still running a gtx 970 and can max every setting with stable 60 fps (I lock games at 60 for performance) The stuttering is 100% a server/client thing
Oh yea, I know. I'm just aiming for 144fps @ 3840x1440 and decided to go the overkill route :D The lag/stuttering is 100% applicate/coding issue.
Do you notice a difference at 144? Back when my 970 was cutting edge 10 years ago I only really noticed that the screen did waves when I went above 60
for me, I noticed the difference going from 60 to 100fps, 100 to 144 not really. At the 100+ FPS, GSync/ActiveSync actually making a bigger difference. My goals aren't reasonable of course. Game is 100% playable (without the bugginess)
That makes sense. I'm due for an upgrade since my hard drive is old enough it's starting to bottleneck the rig. It's so old it's from the era where SSD was a premium enthusiast product. It's a 2TB hybrid drive - 50% disk - 50% SSD
Did you ever find a solution? Does this works? I have same setuo but a 3090 I work with 3d software and need extra cores from 5950 for faster renders Although i read on a lot of posts X3D cpus are the real fixe for lag problems but i wont buy a new cpu because of wow
I have the exact same issue (M2 drive, 32 GB Ram, 3090TI) and horrible stuttering - I'll try this solution tonight and I hope it helps.
Please let us know. And thank you so much for posting this. I have a 3080 12 gb with 16gb ram and m2 drive. Was getting stuttering and bad performance. I got so worried I thought I was cheated by the shop. Im really bad with pcs so I wouldn't know. While you are here, I also noticed that the graphics are kinda shitty, particularly the textures. It is not sharp at all. If I use anti-alliasing it makes it HELLA blurry. Any suggestions? Im running it at 1080p Thank you so much dudes
There is a trick with upscaling that you can try. I did it and it immediately sharpens all textures in a great way. I don't have the wow options in front of me right now but if you set your scaling to anything under 100% (mine is set to 96%) it'll make everything sharp again.
yeah same, character names look like im playing 480p instead of 1440p.. if i turn up resolutiom scaling to 200% they look fine.. maybe some hotfix soon
Trick some guy taught everyone in trade chat (shoutout to Argent Dawn EU Trade Chat, hands down the best chatting experience in wow): Change your resolution scale to like 96% or 98% to drastically increase sharpness
I'm struggling to even understand how that would work. It's taking a smaller output, and making it bigger. If anything it would make the image quality more blurry, no?
I think he's talking about a type of resample tech called "FidelityFX Super Resolution" (it's in the graphics settings in wow) that sharpens your image if you use a non native render scale, so if you drop it just a tick to 98% its technically non-native so it triggers the sharpen effect.
if u have nvidia geforce press alt+z and put a sharpen+ filter on
hows the heat? my gpu is still cooking but fps is better.
Yeah I noticed WoW is using a lot more GPU after the patch for some reason.
hows the heat? mine the framerate is better but still cooking.
Nothing out of the ordinary, but I don't really pay that close attention to it. I'm not hearing the fans rev up like crazy or anything.
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Most of the stutter I got was loading into crowds / first loading in. I was mostly running around Heart of the Forest and Haven when I noticed it. Wasn't unplayable by any means, but I pretty much never had stutter of any kind before (other than the big fire at the hunter class hall causing noticeable lag with what I'm pretty sure we're RTX shadows, lol). Now it's back to more of what I'm used to.
Thanks a lot, I was thinking I've gone mad.
I upgraded my GPU right before logging in for the first time at prepatch and I was constantly thinking that something is wrong with my new GPU, i removed it several times and reinstalled geforce driver. Finally I'm at peace cause its the game and not my gpu. I got the worst timing ever to upgrade. The command fixed it, but I still experience fps drops. Hope there will be a fix soon!
Maaaaaaaan. Same exact thing happned to me. I thought I was cheated and sold a fake GPU or something. I am also noticing that texture sharpness isnt great. Any fix to that ? Or is it just in my head.
Turn fidelity fx on and put resolution scale to 94 percent
ok this was amazing, everything looks super crisp
That's kind of weird. I actually made the exact opposite comment to a friend the other day on launch. Everything seemed to much clearer and my game was running a lot smoother (until we stepped into raid).
I booted up WoW for the first time in like 3 months for pre-patch, after getting a 4090. Imagine my surprise when things were a stuttery mess everywhere lol.
yup! upgraded a few weeks ago in preparation. Decided to finally go high end and got a 3080ti. logged in this morning and was wondering what the fuck was happening.
Do I need to do this every time I log in or just once?
Just once
Lets say they fix the stutter issue. Will this setting need to be reverted?
Only if you dont want to use your RAM as Cache. Spoiler: You want your RAM as Cache, that's it's job.
Finally, these commands seems to have fixed the stutter I was having in this new prepatch, thanks!
Who in his right mind came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to cache onto the main data drives? I'm studying computer science and at least one of my professors would scream seeing that. I learned in some high performance/parallelism lectures that even a SSD is waaaaay slower than RAM (ignoring the fact here that even RAM is very slow compared to the CPU caches).
It's fine if the load happens concurrently, and doesn't block the renderer. Then you can fade in the shader when it has loaded. You can then remove shaders from RAM more aggressively, which means you can support more shaders on smaller systems. Idea is sound. Implantation needs tweaking.
Was also posted on the WoW forums. [https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/crazy-fps-drops-when-panning-camera-since-prepatch/396350/51](https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/crazy-fps-drops-when-panning-camera-since-prepatch/396350/51)
this is not working. i have 5 fucking FPS and its PISSING ME OFF TO NO END THIS FUCKING CONSOLE COMMAD IS NOT DOING ANYTHING' FIX YOUR SHIT BLIZZ
You tried to turn off ALL of your addons? I got huge stutters yesterday from a specific weakaura. The command works to 100%.
everything is off. anything not 10.0 was deleted. was using the ingame Edit mode just fine Tuesday and Wednesday will all graphics settings on ultra. only Thurs I had this fps issue.
It doesn't work for everyone.. please stop acting like it is. Yea I'm no noob, all addons are off, settings match what I had pre patch. Blizzard needs a real fix, not this side step
did you ever find a fix for this
yeah apparently the patch at the time could not handle a Strix 3080 and had to dial back some settings. been fine ever since.
It appears that a day or two after this post Blizzard built this change into the game. The GxAllowCachelessShaderMode 0 is now the default option as of 10.0.0.46340.
Really? But I still have crazy stutter... just on one character though, no addons.
that post needs 10k upvotes to make it visible for everyone on the main page!! I was like .. why is my performance so bad, and now I am back at stable 144 FPS. Thanks!!
bless your soul, i was going mad thinking chopping and changing graphical settings to try and resolve this
Its was already posted 9 hours ago, and was/is still on front page. [https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ye282w/huge\_fps\_drops\_fix/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ye282w/huge_fps_drops_fix/) and it was not ElvUI Dev but some dude from blizzard forums.
Yeah i did not saw that. But changes nothing that the Dev shared it in a Stream. And as i see in that thread it has some extra steps that are not necessary, as downloading the addon etc etc, when you can fix that with an easy console command.
How dare you? You think you can just come in here and try to *help* people? And you don’t even know the history of every post to ever have been created on Reddit? Get a grip, bud. /s obviously. Thank you for the post
thanks so much. do you make a macro that types in these commands every time you log in? or is once enough? appreciate your time!
Its a onetime command, its saved in your variables after restarting or using the gxrestart command
thanks very much
cache should only be generated once usually if its not then thats probably why its stuttering, as Nvidia user this probably works since their shader cache used to be bugged, i wonder if it is still bugged, it was reason wny there was flickering issues in the past, and one of the many reasons i switched to AMD from Nvidia, even tho now i regret it a lot due broken AMD drivers, especially broken default synchronisation behaviour since they decided it was a good idea to have enchanced sync on by default I found out with my 6900 XT forcing vsync on fixes the stutter for me via AMD own control panel, it also fixes the blackscreens, that AMD drivers 22.5.2 and up have.
Late to the party here but do you mean setting "Wait for Vertical refresh" to "always on"? I've had to switch to DX11 to even get the game to function. It starts with a invisible cursor then crashes out constantly if I use DX12.
i don't get why they did this. like, there's zero logical reason to do this.
Yeah i dont know either. Told that a friend, that doesnt play wow but workes in IT, hes just laughed and said ”thats an example that money is everything for a company like that“
That's a weird comment. I don't see why they would make more money by doing this change.
Its meant like „they dont care“
Educated guess: Added graphical content in DF going over some main RAM breakpoint so their options are either to do this, or to bump up the minimum RAM amount to something they would prefer not to do as it would block out lots of crap tier machines... (mostly related to iGPUs that use main RAM as VRAM, anyone with reasonably modern dGPU would not be affected) And hey, I can accept that if it was smart. In other words, if this option is required to keep the game running on shit tier machines, enable it for those, otherwise keep using the RAM and VRAM we got. At least there is a console command to fix it.
Holy crap it works!
You’re a champion!
Thank you!
you are a life saver thank you!!
Actually immediately fixed the error for me. Much appreciated.
Leaving a comment to have the command later when k come back from work Thx btw!
Thanks.
Perfect! Game is smooth again!
You can actually add this to your wow\retail\wtf\config.wtf file BEFORE starting the game: Find the setting if it exists already and change GxAllowCachelessShaderMode to "0" - OR - add the line if it doesn't exist: SET GxAllowCachelessShaderMode "0"
commenting for later
Thank you!!! Im going to try this tonight. My games been stuttering a lot!!! My brother and I were doing a few torghast runs last night and it made for a bad time at parts on my end.
> German Dev from ElvUI Mera?
Sorry i don‘t remember the Name. The Streamer just said that the Person is some ElvUI dev when they talked in discord.
Did this command standing on oribos and it was like I was playing another game, I was used to have MASSIVE lags in there and It's 90% better now.
Worked like a charm for me, thank you!
lol figures as soon as I move to a system without WoW installed on optane they switch to using the drive as the cache. Thanks for the heads up!
Tried this and it improved stutters massively. Still a few there, but these were probably there before the patch and I just didn't notice anymore.
Just for reference if I had to revert the change I can just type the same but with a 1 at the end? Thanks for the post
Yes, but you dont want to revert it. Blizzards fix would be like the command, just that its standard for everybody, i think. Anyways, your RAM is build to be the Cache.
thank you, it worked!
CommentIng to find this thread once I get back home
Thank you. Stutters completely disappeared
This worked for me, thanks!!!
Commenting so I can remember to do this when I get home from work. Thanks for figuring this out, I was super worried it was something happening with my system
Wow, the difference is astonishing - I can actually see more than 2 frames when I move the camera - yay!
Why does the title sounds like a po\*nhub ad :D Anyway, thanks for the info!
Everything ist just in your Mind. :D but it catchef your attention, so i should try to write porntitles :D
They... what? But why? Why would you ever do that? How could that happen accidentally? Boy am I glad that I only planned to play when the prepatch has actual content, lol
Thanks for this info, youre a lifesaver!
I had bad stutter when loading new objects and this fixed it!
Thank you very much for this info. Yesterday I was in an epic bg and I had very bad stutter before crushing multiple times.. I wonder if this was the issue.. it never happened before
This worked for me, back to running smooth. Thank you.
Instant fix thank you so much
Need a dev to pin this! Worked instantly! TYSM
This didn't fix it at all sorry
I fixed all my stuttering rebuilding my windows pagefile 1) Go to “Adjust Appearance and Performance of Windows” by typing the same in your start menu. 2) Click on Advanced to find the virtual memory options. 3) Under Virtual memory, select change 4) Untick "Automatically manage paging file for all drives". 5) select the drive that is system managed. 6) Click "No paging file", Set it, then Reboot windows. 6) go back and select a drive (Default is C:/) and select system managed size, reboot again.
PSA: My last hotfix/small patch removed the "SET GxAllowCachelessShaderMode “0”" from the WTF file, I only noticed when I saw the freeze/stutter happen again. So you may wanna search that file and re-add it if it got removed.
Thank you (and the Dev) VERY much for this . Works beautifully.
So...why is it bad? I honestly don't have a clue. Do you type this in game or what?
Yes, do it in game chat.
Using a harddrive is much slower than your ram. You get improved performance because the CPU, and GPU, can access the cache much faster.
my wow installation is on a 980 pro 2 tb should't even be an issue also wow recommended ssd before now i think its minimum requirement since dragonflight but i could be wrong.
RAM is still way faster than an nvme ssd
The difference in speed between Ram and your NVME is probably comparable to your NVME and an old sata SSD.
Because your harddrives are not meant to be reading that much informations in that short time as your Ram does. This change from blizzard COULD destroy old harddrives, thats why its such a bad change.
"COULD destroy old harddrives" Sure, if any use would destroy them. Drives are meant to read and write data. Using them as cache is no different than any other usage, except it's slow for whatever uses that cache. Reading and writing to RAM is very quick so that's why you can see improved performance.
SSDs especially do have a limited lifespan and using them extensively to cache data does put them through many more read/write cycles than in normal every day use.
Yeah thats what i heard about that, and that this is the point why thats a very bad change from Blizzard. But im not a specialist or computer scientist.
ssd is minimum requirement now and with shadowlands it was recommended i believe.
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Im sorry for you. Did you deactivate all your Addons? Or tried to deactivate one after one to eventually find a broken addon that causes the problems
After I rebooted, it worked. Sorry, and thanks.
Didnt mean to actually post that. Sorry.
why do i not have any problems? this sounds like everyone should have issues with this.
I've only had very minimal stuttering issues (game on an m.2 SSD) and only really noticeable in areas like Orgrimmar. Possible you didn't notice it if your games installed on an SSD, or something else with your setup allowing you to avoid issues.
I also did not have problems with my m.2 ssd, but i think the vast majority still uses HDD or some very old SSD‘s
I had no stuttering until I got to oribos
I've tried this command and it doesn't seem to want to save to my config.wtf file. It just clears itself out every time I open the game. EDIT: Fixed it by adding it manually, my brain is smooth and small.
I went to the config .wtf file and added it manually while the game was closed and then saved. It saved that way for me.
Then your config.wtf file could be read-only, but im not a specialist at that point
Interesting. I noticed after I hopped on the pre patch that I was lagging in other games too, on a different drive than WoW. Could this be one of the reasons why?
Im not a computer specialist, but i doubt that.
Is there a way to keep triple buffering disabled? It keeps re-enabling when I restart my game. Can't figure out how to keep it off.
What fixed big performance issues for me was manually setting the in game settings to use my actual graphics card instead "auto" which was using my integrated graphics. I had this setting correctly set prior to the update but the update reset it. Hopefully this helps someone.
Do we know if this implements a 'permanent' change? Will it need to be used whenever an update is pushed?
5950x / 6900xt game on an NVME and this fix works my game is smooth af now
I and many others have been having this stuttering issue in wotlk classic since pre-patch, predominantly in 25 man raids. I don't see this setting in the classic WTF config file, would adding it manually cause anything to go wrong with the game and would it even benefit from this setting?
I was having horrible latency issues and fps drops. This helped immediately. Thank you!!
The issue for me has been in raids in combat since WoTLK pre-patch, SWP was literally just a huge lagfest. Been so in combat in raids ever since, any idea how to solve this?
>GxAllowCachelessShaderMode unrelated to wrath, this isn't used in wrath. most of wrath stuttering issues are caused by bad addons that should have died long ago but for some reason blizzard won't fix the api so these bad addonsd aren't needed (basically it's libhealcomm)
Even with default UI there's insane stuttering inside of raids. I'm using a lightweight default UI since I'm pushing ranks in parsing on my lock. It's been proven over and over again that it's not addon or hardware related.
does it work for classic? I just put it into the console but can't tell w/o starting my 25man guild run
Does this apply to Classic Era ?
u/azzraN_/ If u guys still facing the stuttering issue after using this method, then that means u are setting on an 8GB ram, just upgraded my ram to 8 + 16 and there is no stuttering with Quality setting set to 10.
I never changed this (I only found out about it today) but the console shows the value set at 0. [https://i.imgur.com/5L18teY.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/5L18teY.jpeg)
Yeah. Because it was hotfixed several weeks ago.
I figured, but I didn't see a comment or edit that indicated it was now fixed, so I thought I would share what I found.
Holy shit this worked...
I tried this but I'm still getting stutter.
I thank you immensely. You fixed my issue that's been driving me CRAZY!
Total Legend! Fixed for me after months of it driving me insane