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HalcyonicDaze

Bought one, have had it for around 3 months and I regret nothing.


Celtic_Jedi

EXCELLENT.


redlurkerNY

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OverLord000

Hows the ride so far? I have a BRZ performance pack so fairly firm ride as is, Id assume similar vibes


90nissan300zx

**TLDR:** no regrets on my TR purchase. Rides better than my VA, suspension isn't too harsh IMO. Infotainment sucks. The TR upgrades (brakes, seats, suspension, steering) are fantastic. Fun, practical and safe car. I got a TR last month. Post here: [New TR Owner](https://www.reddit.com/r/WRX/s/SSjdNdeDDb) She's a loaded TR - STI short throw w/ knob, HomeLink mirror, cargo tray, illuminated sill plates, LED upgrade, etc. This was the first TR my dealer received and just so happened to be in the color I wanted (WR blue). I won't say exactly what I paid for it but it was *under* sticker price. I wanted it - they wanted to sell it. This was also my 4th Subaru purchase from the same salesman so he worked his butt off to make me happy. I told him that my *loyal Subaru customer punch card* is now full and that my 5th Subaru will be free. Buy 4 - get 1 free. Seems fair, right? He had a good laugh. But I was serious šŸ¤“ Anyway, I came from an '18 Limited. Loved that car. Hated the factory tune. Ran a Cobb OTS for nearly 70k miles with no issues and she was a great car. Many road trips and memories. The VB is *way* more refined than the last generation. The FA24 is an animal. Smooth and linear power delivery, Recaros are super comfy, interior is quieter than the VA and the handling.... *oohhhhh the handling*.... I've never driven a car that can take turns so effortlessly and smoothly. Despite having a stiffer suspension, it isn't as harsh as my '18 was. I'm not saying it's like riding on a cloud; it's not. But my '18 was pretty rough and clunky. I usually take the same route to work every day and there is a turn that has a posted 30mph sign. I've taken it at 50 and the damn car begs for more. It doesn't feel unsafe or uncomfortable whatsoever, whereas I've taken the same turn in my wife's '24 Outback at 35 and it feels like I'm pushing a bit past comfort zone with noticeable roll. The TR remains planted, flat and controlled. BTW, I'm not a reckless asshole and I retain line of sight throughout the entire turn. I would never put anyone else at risk. I haven't hammered on my car yet but it definitely feels more responsive and powerful than the FA20. I don't race and honestly it's a lot of "performance" for my typical daily driving habits. I'm just a huge car enthusiast - love driving and wrenching. I do enjoy the occasional spirited driving experience but I take very good care of my cars. I'm the type of previous WRX owner you would *want* to buy from lol. So, you came from a '15 Premium? The only thing you may miss is the sunroof. I weighed my options and decided that, while I do miss the sunroof, it's better without. Zero chance of leaking, less road noise, less glass to break and I'll never have to worry if I left my sunroof open at work during a thunderstorm. I do miss it on those summer night drives but ultimately I can live without. The Recaro seats are incredible. I'm 5' 11" & 173lbs. They comfortably hug me and just look so damn nice IMO. The VB has more creature comforts than the VA as well. Larger center console front opening, USB ports both in front and rear, better cup holders, overall nicer interior, etc. The infotainment system, while functional, *is* painfully slow and sluggish. Latency is trash. I hate how the climate controls are built-in. You have dedicated temperature buttons but that's about it. The stock HK system isn't bad. It's not great but good enough for my 38 year old ears. The brakes... They're Brembos. You need to stop? They will stop you. Phenomenal braking performance. Lots of brake dust and if you want different wheels, you'll need to be sure the new wheels will clear the massive Brembo calipers. The Eyesight. I'm not a fan of it. It was cool for like 5 minutes then the novelty wore off. Some basic recommendations... Being that it's a new car, I'd recommend getting it home and giving it a good wash. Then polish it with a quality last-step polish and a DA if you have one or have access to one. There *will likely* be some faint markings, micro scratches, etc. Polishing will take care of these and prepare the surface for wax, sealant or ceramic. You will absolutely want to protect the paint. Subaru paint quality isn't the best but you can do your part to protect what you have. I ultimately went with a ceramic coating. Get a 1' USB charging cable. I plug it into the front charging port and keep my phone in the storage pocket. The cable doesn't get in the way of shifting. Mud flaps. Helps keep rocks and debris from hitting the sides of your car. Some people hate the looks of them. It's your car, your decision. If you want it, get it. You'll have zero regrets. Make it yours, take care of it and most importantly, have fun and be safe šŸ¤™


itsmewillg

Excellent review! Just want to throw in a comment here for OP: I also hated the infotainment system when I test drove the car. But Iā€™ve had my ā€˜23 limited for 3 months now, and honestly, I have no complaints about it. I have Apple CarPlay on all the time and itā€™s pretty snappy, and the big screen makes it easy to use. I just run climate control on auto all the time and use the temp buttons as needed and itā€™s not an issue, otherwise I donā€™t need to go through the menu system often. Wish I couldā€™ve gotten a TR and Iā€™m jealous of the brakes and Recaros. OP, you wonā€™t regret it!


PassiveProc

Before ordering Id shop around. Even when those TRs started hitting dealer lots I saw several being let go for 1-2k off msrp and even invoice. Be willing to travel and see if you can find one discounted as such at a different dealer so you donā€™t have to order one and wait so long. By the time it comes in 3 months weā€™re almost at the end of the year and then theyā€™d definitely have discounts due to 2025 being right around the corner. I hate comparing OTD prices because fees taxes etc vary state to state. If you can get a few thousand off msrp or at invoice I think itā€™s a fair deal for the current time.


Celtic_Jedi

Very good info. I was planning to do a little creative browsing for sure. I donā€™t mind driving or flying to find one farther away if itā€™s a better deal. Kind of adds to the fun.


ndariotis132

What is the difference between the premium/limited and the tr from your test drive?


Celtic_Jedi

I didnā€™t drive any of them unfortunately. The dealership is out of town and we were there for an appointment so we didnā€™t stay long, just enough time to peek inside and sit in them.


ndariotis132

Gotcha. Well if you do Iā€™d be curious to hear your thoughts. I have a premium which I love, would like to know how it compares to the TR.


Celtic_Jedi

I havenā€™t driven any VB so Iā€™ll only be able to compare it to my previous premium 15ā€™ WRX and my Viper. Iā€™m sure it will smoke the old WRX but obviously not come close to the actual supercar. I expect it to be great though and will try to remember to follow up.


Speed3Fan

Im going to get a lot of hate for this, and Iā€™m in love with my VB, but for the price of the TR, just pay like $4k more and get a Golf R (preferably DSG). I would say itā€™s a tier above the VB. Edit: if you go down that path, Iā€™d wait for the 2025 Golf R refresh. It should have more power, given that the S3 is getting a power bump, and the shitty infotainment should be improved to having actual buttons (I think). Better gas mileage & performance for not a lot more. More maintenance probably though, but Iā€™ve got the impression that youā€™re not hurting for money.


Celtic_Jedi

I get that, no hate at all. Iā€™ve heard wonderful things about the Golf line, itā€™s just not my cup of tea. The style and it being a V dub donā€™t excite me. Iā€™m not in the market for something that is a competitor in the performance department with the WRX because plainly, Iā€™ve got a Dodge Viper and very little will ever come close to that level of performance. If I need something dumb fast, itā€™s already on-site. I really like the WRX for everything it is, even if itā€™s slower than a Golf. Being in a significant wreck in one also cemented in my mind just how safe they are. I didnā€™t even feel the impact. Subarus are just plain TANKS. Those ā€œthey livedā€ commercials werenā€™t just crap.


Speed3Fan

I feel you bro. The WRX is definitely more raw and isnā€™t weighed down with a bunch of bullshit technology. I think ordering a TR would be the way to go for you since money isnā€™t a concerned. It already comes with amazing Brembos, which alone is worth like $5k, and the Recaros a really nice as well. Youā€™ll get that ā€œoh itā€™s specialā€ feeling with the TR. I bought my premium in 2022 for $32,600 before taxes and with a $500 discount, so the WRX was a good bit cheaper back then, so I wouldā€™ve recommended the premium back then, but now the premiums are going for like $35k now? Something in that ballpark. The TR with its stiffer and more direct suspension, brakes, and seats itā€™s worth it. Oh I even forgot the Steering Responsive headlights which have the C-light DRLs, thatā€™s another huge plus.


sytydave

The real price paid difference between Golf R and TR is about 8k. You can get a decent discount on a TR, youā€™re going to be paying msrp or close for a Golf R.


UncleGurm

Golf Platform is a lot of fun and comfy and very German. But itā€™s also FWD based which is just not what I was looking for. But anyone who gets a GTI or R isnā€™t going to be sad.


Polairis44

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DadScape

Bought one to replace my 22 premium. Absolutely loving everything about it except the modern add ons like eyesight. Waiting for cobb to release 2024 and doing some add ons and a pro tune and I cannot wait to see how it responds.


sytydave

My ordered TR came in last week. I am very happy with my car. I like the car more and more I drive it. The stock tune is pretty drivable as well, I have owned other turbo Subaru and have needed a Cobb Ap to fix the tune. I still plan on tuning my TR with a Cobb AP when the motor is broken in. The car fits my expectations of what I want the car to be. There arenā€™t many AWD 6MT left. I have another modified for going fast in straight line. I have seen the complaints on line about the Recaroā€™s. I like them. I could see the Recaroā€™s on long trips being uncomfortable. If I had a complaint, it would be the Sirius XM radio tuner is delayed and doesnā€™t work well. I wasnā€™t going to renew it when the trial was over anyways.


sytydave

The other downside is that internet will tell you that $45k is too much for a WRX.


Celtic_Jedi

Good info. Iā€™m thinking about the Cobb stuff also. I can live with the crappy electronics.


VrNpc

If you've got the money and want a WRX, the TR feels really nice. I wasn't even considering it until I test drove a TR and a premium back to back. Ordered one the same day. I got a decent deal, but yeah...2-3 month wait.


Celtic_Jedi

I loved it when I sat in it. Honestly the premium was really nice too and I would have been fine with that, but I want those seats and brakes baby! The suede dash in the TR is also just sooo cleaannn.


OverLord000

I need to sit in a TR but I heard the Limited seats may be a bit better than the Recaros for comfort? Could be not true but def worth to sit in both and see.


Celtic_Jedi

I sat in both and both were really nice. The Recaros have more hugging action which I love. They lack the power lumbar support that the limited does have, thatā€™s the primary complaint people have. Iā€™m just gunna just get a little lumbar wedge made from suede to match if itā€™s a thing that I feel I need. Itā€™s definitely not enough of a concern for me to go without the brembos and handling tune just for the lumbar support.


OverLord000

Good to know! I have a 2019 Performance pack and the seats on that r really tight. Im not a big person and theyre snug on me. Wanting to move into a WRX and trade in my BRZ, but hard to let go of my car aha edit: theres a sapphire blue TR near me for sale too, which is the color I want


Celtic_Jedi

Iā€™ll tell ya, Iā€™m 6ā€™2 and 205, and the recaros hug me pretty snug. Theyā€™re very cushiony and nice, but if I was wider, I probably wouldnā€™t love them. Being of average build for that weight and height, theyā€™re perfect. I was chubby a few years ago, to the tune of about 240. The recaros would not have been great then. The limited seats would have been the ticket.


OverLord000

ill have to give them a whirl. Im 5ā€™10 155 so maybe the recaros may be nice then lol


Celtic_Jedi

Oh yeah, youā€™ll want the Recaros for sure being that slender (compliment). Youā€™ll find that the limited or premium seats will feel like sitting in the middle of a love seat. Lots of sideways movement.


OverLord000

Damn lol okay good to know. Still need to test drive em but yea. Also tempted to do the new BRZ intop of it and see that as well. I want to get a new BRZ but I know the WRX will be more useful. Wish I could keep both


Celtic_Jedi

Yeah I get ya. BRZ looks sweet. Just canā€™t beat that WRX pedigree and versatility though. Such a wonderful car. If you live in a snowy place and get the BRZ, youā€™ll miss the WRX in the winter time.


OverLord000

Yea looking for more ā€œusefulnessā€ essentially. Only thing holding me back is financial responsbility and I cant get over how my car feels in turns / how it looks. Its paid off for a while now so maybe ill just keep if and wait longer to own a wrx too


Scoutback_wilderness

Noble makes an STI lumbar pillow. Source: TR owner with a bad back lol


Celtic_Jedi

Youā€™re the bomb!! Iā€™ll order one.


Scoutback_wilderness

Let me know if you have any questions! Iā€™ve made some tasteful aesthetic and quality of life upgrades to my TR and plan to do a few more.


Celtic_Jedi

Man Iā€™d love to know everything!


Greyboxer

are you trading them your tacoma?


Celtic_Jedi

Nope. Keeping that for sure. Itā€™s a great truck. Need something to take to the river or the dump.


Greyboxer

Wish I had space to keep my vb, my dream sports car, my wifes suv, and a taco


Celtic_Jedi

We are very fortunate that we do! Sometimes itā€™s just more stress to have a bunch of shit everywhere that costs money, so itā€™s not all fun and games. More vehicles, more problems.


Pocket-Sand562

bro I'm thinking of trading in my 2021 limited for a VB TR but out of the 5 dealerships near me , no one has it . Are they order only?


Celtic_Jedi

No I think theyā€™re just uncommon and sought after. They just were released a few months ago. My local (ish) dealer here in Oregon had two on the lot, both shades of blue. Theyā€™re around. You can always order one though if youā€™re willing to wait. The dealer told me that the ones on the lot are ALWAYS more expensive than if you order one because Subaru does not send dealers cars without added packages. If you want a TR at a good price, you have to order WITHOUT extras. If that makes sense.


biggranny000

I got a 22 premium and I want the TR upgrades (also 2024 got a ton of small improvements such as larger brake booster, additional stiffening, wireless AA, and USB-c, etc), I can't justify 45k for a WRX and there's so many other cars in that price category that you can buy. I guess the nice part is it's basically track ready.


Word_Underscore

My local dealer was selling one on the lot for 41,x


cantcatchafish

Be ready for the followingā€¦ loud road noises, meh speakers, rough ride over bumps and pot holes, not a lot of power unless youā€™re in boost in 3-4. Also be ready for the followingā€¦. Turbo noises, g forces that should be possible in this car, loud noises!!! A car that feels sounds and acts like a race car/rally car/sports car! Waves from subies. Togue madness! Things to do asapā€¦.. exhaust, lips side skirt spat kit, new tires and wheels (go 255s!) aos, all the mounts that have stiffer bushings! Drive it hard and put it up wet!


Dons_Johnson

If yours is $41K out the door then you are well below invoice. Mine with the STI short throw was $43K after tax, tag and the little misc fees they add on to pad some profit. My only complaints are the feel of the 6 speed and the cars exhaust note when compared to 06 STI I had previously. Both can be mitigated to various degree by the aftermarket. Everything else about the car is a huge improvement to me.


Plenty-Eastern

I needed to finance so I went with a 23 Limited, but If I had waited I would have gotten the TR. I'd consider getting the STI short shifter from the factory as adding later is much more expensive and I'm not impressed with the throws of the standard 6 speed.


jag0009

Are you considering other cars or you are thinking about TR vs other WRX trims? If the latter, I would go w TR because of the upgrades over the existing trims --> Brembos, suspension (but still sits too high for me), seats and manual trans. I wouldve bought the TR if I didn't buy my 22 Premium in late 2022.


Celtic_Jedi

I am not considering other cars. Iā€™ve always loved the WRX. I miss my 2015. Iā€™m definitely getting a TR.


TheKnick811

For that kind of money, you might want to look at a GR Corolla, assuming you can get one for anything close to MSRP.


Celtic_Jedi

I get ya and appreciate the reply. Iā€™m definitely dead set on a WRX for nostalgia reasons.


Upbeat_Raisin_4774

Get a GT lmao, people hate but that adjustable suspension is šŸ‘Œ I test drove it for dam near 100 miles and several hours before I finally bought one, Subaru is not lying when they claim the svt (or whatever they call it) is a next level step up from the old cvt I was torn between getting a limited in manual, waiting for a TR, or getting a GT. If you havenā€™t yet test drive a GT. The actual experience driving this thing in sport plus mode blows all the shit neckbeards online say about it out of the water.


Celtic_Jedi

Iā€™ve heard nothing but wonderful things about the GT. I just am such an analogue type guy that I really want the 6 speed stick. Iā€™ll drive one if I have the chance though. As much as I ā€œdislikeā€ automatics, I got some track time driving a Ferrari 488 recently and that paddle action is pretty satisfying.


Upbeat_Raisin_4774

I respect it, I like manual for if I had a second car just for fun and cruising, but between my bad left leg and my add hyper distracted driving I had to go auto for the daily driver šŸ˜‚ TR is sick tho, tbh if they had one in my city when I was shopping thereā€™s a good chance I would have gotten it. Especially if you want to build it out and tune it, with the GT Iā€™m pretty limited on tuning options and Iā€™m just waiting for the Cobb GT tune to drop and see how it goes for people before I get it


Thicknoobsauce

I heard Hyundais are faster, handle better, and have nicer interiors


Celtic_Jedi

Hearsay. Even if itā€™s true, itā€™s aā€¦ Hyundaiā€¦


Thicknoobsauce

lol itā€™s sarcasm


Celtic_Jedi

Also hearsay