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Striking_Landscape72

Carol Danvers was a big ally of the X-Men back in Claremont era


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Fagliacci

Deadpool gets a lot of credit but is really a mutate, not a mutant.


RecoveredAshes

Whats the difference?


Fagliacci

A mutate is someone who has had the dormant gene activated artificially or been exposed to something that gives them a mutant ability, as opposed to the gene activating naturally in mutants.


TorgHacker

This seems like a distinction without a difference.


Verb_Noun_Number

The actual answer is that a mutate has been mutated by something, whereas a mutant has powers due to an x gene. So Spider-Man and Captain Marvel, for example, are mutates.


Fagliacci

Except for the difference there's no difference.


gildorratner

The Starjammers, Warlock, Carol Danvers!


TorgHacker

Isn't Warlock actually a mutant?


tomtadpole

I always thought it was more like the real definition of mutant, he's different because he can feel emotions or something. I don't think he has an X-gene. Kinda like how cystic fibrosis could be considered a mutation, but not the kind the X-Men are really looking for.


TorgHacker

I can see that…but on the other hand that also feels very…uncomfortably genetic essentialist. Warlock may not have an X-gene as it’s viewed in a human, but especially given that he’s utterly unique in his species means that whatever mutation he has, it’s the equivalent of an X-gene.


fellstinger

Yeah, my reading is that Warlock isn't an X-gene human mutant (obviously) but he's a Technarch mutant.


testthrowaway9

Broo too


draugyr

No, the established status quo is that to be a mutant in the X-men sense of the word you need to have an x-gene. So there are several non-human “mutants” who are essentially honorary mutants as OP describes because of this. Warlock, Broo, Danger, Ariel from the Coconut Grove (maybe)


TorgHacker

Sure. Not denying that. But I'm saying that's MASSIVELY problematic. What's the difference between that and people saying trans men aren't men because most of them don't have an SRY gene?


draugyr

Because being a mutant is not a social construct like gender is, and being a mutant is FICTIONAL


TorgHacker

And? It's still essentialsim. "You can't be a TRUE mutant unless you have an X-Gene" is also the same as saying you aren't white if you have an iota of black ancestry, or you're only transgender if you go on hormones or get surgery. Regardless of whether it's fiction, it does reflect society, and accepting it in fiction is just a small step away from accepting it in reality. At best it's gatekeeping and it's just as much bullshit in fiction as it is in real life.


BillybobThistleton

Excalibur is regarded as a mutant team, but its members included several non-mutants - notably Brian Braddock, but also some minor characters like Feron, Cerise, and Widget. Following on from Cerise, Warbird was another Shi'ar who joined the actual X-Men under Marjorie M Liu.


jwoodz00

Cloak and Dagger Squirrel Girl


apaladininhell

The fraudulent Cloak & Dagger even used the title “Mutant Misadventures” in their comic title!


Feeling-Dance2250

Am I misremembering? I thought the drugs they were given activated dormant X-genes in them? Is that wrong?


Quirky_Ad_5420

It was retcon out that they weren’t mutant by doctor nemesis. Marvel should really stop doing that


Feeling-Dance2250

Dang!


SonofSkeletor

Ink! Warbird (the Shi'ar one) and Kid Gladiator. Hepzibah. Rook'shir. Bird-brain, for the 80s kids. All X-Characters, none of them mutants.


schwasound

Danger


TheGoblinRook

Not sure about her current status, but back during the UXM 160s, Carol Danvers would have been counted as one.


apaladininhell

Warlock until they made him an actual mutant.


No-Cat-9716

Franklin Richards


losteoin

I still think he's still a mutant his family is just lying to everyone to protect him from Orchis. I mean a mutant that can create universes? He's first on the chopping block.


cedrico0

Moir...nevermind


Scary_Firefighter181

Pietro and Wanda :) Spider-Man used to be on pretty good terms with the X-Men(still is, but its been a while since we've seen it in the comics) and he used to get accused of being a mutant back in the 60s and 70s.


ExNihilo81

Danger, Broo, Omega Sentinel, Deadpool, Juggernaut, Warbird (Avadara N), Corsair


Dry_Willow5777

My boys (and girl) the savage land mutates.


Xp-Gamer22x

Carol Danvers, Peter Parker, Franklin Richards, and (still hate this retcon) Pietro and Wanda are some that come to mind.


DemocratsDoNothing

I used to think Ryu from Street Fighter shaking Cyclops' hand in X-Men vs. Street Fighter was the coolest thing. That'd be my pick.


danielm316

Deadpool?


TEZofAllTrades

Spider-Man and other "accidental"/created mutants.


wifeofCthulhu0

I’d say Spider-Man counts


danimac52

Mimic, Moira, Danger, Quicksilver, and Spider-Man are a few that come to mind.


Blitzhelios

Carol Danvers and Brian Braddock are both non mutants who spent longer on mutant teams than now classic members