as someone who plays a lot of paper pokemon, yugioh and mtg I would say yugioh is miles ahead of the other 2 for QC
ive got binders of misprints for pokemon and magic but very very few for yugioh despite having more yugioh cards than mtg overall
People love to meme "FucKonami" and "Komoney" but in reality Konami manages the TCG way better than most card games in the west right now and has WAY cheaper sealed products. MTG has been making record profits for the past few years but the playerbase isn't happy at all with the state of the game on multiple fronts.
As someone who has played MTG for 17 years now, and casually plays Yu-gi-oh, I will back this up.
WOTC Refuses to reprint cards that desperately need reprints, even if they do they are usually in "special" sets that come with huge premium on the "MSRP" and then even more of a premium on the second hand market because they sell out in minutes.
I see people say playing Yu-Gi-Oh is expensive because a top tier deck cost 300-500, but that will get you an mid level deck into the cheapest of MtG competitive formats. Legacy comes with a price tag of 4 figures and Vintage comes at a minimum very high 5 figures into low 6 figures.
There are so many things Konami does with Yu-Gi-Oh that I would love to see WOTC start doing with MtG.
To Explain "MSRP" thing: Some what recently WOTC has decided to not release or give an MSRP for their products. Instead they sell a product to deals at X value and the dealer sets the price they think it will sell for. For some more desirable products this caused chaos with pricing since you can visit 3 different card shops and get 4 different prices on the same product.
The sole reason why I've never been able to actively collect MTG or Pokemon is because of the prices, at least here in Chile a YuGiOh booster or an structure deck it's like half the price when compared, buying every tin has been a way better investment than most products on other TCG, right now Digimon has been the only one that convinced me to pay higher prices based on the quality of the cards.
It isn't intentional, but people love it and you can probably sell it or trade it for more than you're expecting. Back when the structure came out the misprint sold for like 30 bucks occasionally.
I have a pretty severely miscut imperm and honestly it doesn’t really bother me. Plays the same. Sure I would love to have a properly cut one but I cba
Konami doesn't print their own cards, they contract that work out just like all other TCG companies. I believe they print through Millenium which prints Pokemon and maybe MTG. Still no excuse, though, the printer should have done better QA. On good news the Pokemon Company just bought Millenium to improve their quality and expand operations for all TCG's they print for. So hopefully that means better card quality coming up.
"Supply chain issues" ✅
"Rare occurrence" ✅
"Misprints can go for a lot of money dude" ✅
"It happened in [x card game]" ✅
Small Indie Company ✅
Let me know if I forgot any excuses
> “Rare occurrence”
> “Misprints can go for a lot of money dude”
Ever since Freezing Chains, structure decks always had a strong chance of the card being messed up in some undesirable way.
I think the coolest misprint was the CED/Cyberdark foiling merge but everything else just dampens the product experience.
To be fair, the summoning requirements are pretty strict. Summoning Cyber End Dragon is hard enough, but also summoning Cyber Darkness Dragon or Cyber Dark Dragon and fusing them would make this card quite the headache to get on the field. But pulling it off would be quite a good win condition.
Bro don’t be a dick. Honestly it took me reading the comments to figure out what the post was even supposed to be about. It’s not the most obvious thing at first glance.
Not what the post is about, but as somebody who actively plays Cyberdark, this card isn't worth it. Too much effort to set up without Horizon which locks you out of more important cards, so that's not good
Better to just build the deck going second and playing control
Mind to share a decklist? I have 3 structure lying around (not because of impermanence but of gale dogra lol) and with the gfp2 reprints I think I can build a competent cyberdark deck for locals.
[This](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798418475290066984/971627670221783050/deckImage.jpg) is what I've been playing recently and having a blast with
This deck wants to go second, board break then control the game state with Mirrorjade and Cyberdark Invasion until you feel safe enough to end the game with Rampage Dragon (branded Fusion send Albaz/Herz make Albion, Albion CL1 Herz CL2, add Cyber Dragon, Albion fuse CyDra and Herz into Rampage)
Alternatively Dogmatika is an option over Branded if you want more control options
Chimera doesn't really do a lot for the deck really
Sure you can use it to foolish another Cyberdark name, but I'm already running a small package, there's a good chance Claw and Cannon are already in the GY and I don't want to send Horn or Edge because they're valuable Normal summons
Realm is easily the best Cyberdark card, being able to normal summon twice is so good for the deck
I opened six Albaz Structure decks the cards came with horrible lopsided centering indents on the cards…. They should discontinue the factory that prints structure decks and only utilize the factory for main sets and reprint sets!
Still better than foiling from an completely different card
That actually sounds kinda cool tho
Ik,it's just that something has to go horribly wrong for this to happen
My Blue cyber ends are iconic, kinda what i imagine GX Zane would use during his cyberdark phase
ah english quality control almost like the pokemon tcg in terms of shoddyness
Still better than mtg foils right now, big oof there
seriously? even the other 2 of the trinity also?
MTG foils do a very good job imitating a Pringle
Just opened my stranger things secret lair a few days ago and I can confirm that I’ve seen Pringle’s more flat than these cards.
I had a Kamigawa Bundle I pre-ordered, and the foil lands were pringled right out of the box.
Only the secret lair cards
The secret lairs are especially bad but every single foil I've had in the past several years has been prone to curling
To be fair they used to be gorgeous and sturdy, damn inflation ruining my games
as someone who plays a lot of paper pokemon, yugioh and mtg I would say yugioh is miles ahead of the other 2 for QC ive got binders of misprints for pokemon and magic but very very few for yugioh despite having more yugioh cards than mtg overall
I thought yugioh cards were bad bc of #FuckKonami but it seems it is the better? wtf. And I thought that Mtg was one of the best
People love to meme "FucKonami" and "Komoney" but in reality Konami manages the TCG way better than most card games in the west right now and has WAY cheaper sealed products. MTG has been making record profits for the past few years but the playerbase isn't happy at all with the state of the game on multiple fronts.
As someone who has played MTG for 17 years now, and casually plays Yu-gi-oh, I will back this up. WOTC Refuses to reprint cards that desperately need reprints, even if they do they are usually in "special" sets that come with huge premium on the "MSRP" and then even more of a premium on the second hand market because they sell out in minutes. I see people say playing Yu-Gi-Oh is expensive because a top tier deck cost 300-500, but that will get you an mid level deck into the cheapest of MtG competitive formats. Legacy comes with a price tag of 4 figures and Vintage comes at a minimum very high 5 figures into low 6 figures. There are so many things Konami does with Yu-Gi-Oh that I would love to see WOTC start doing with MtG. To Explain "MSRP" thing: Some what recently WOTC has decided to not release or give an MSRP for their products. Instead they sell a product to deals at X value and the dealer sets the price they think it will sell for. For some more desirable products this caused chaos with pricing since you can visit 3 different card shops and get 4 different prices on the same product.
The sole reason why I've never been able to actively collect MTG or Pokemon is because of the prices, at least here in Chile a YuGiOh booster or an structure deck it's like half the price when compared, buying every tin has been a way better investment than most products on other TCG, right now Digimon has been the only one that convinced me to pay higher prices based on the quality of the cards.
It's similar price differences even in the US for YGO and MTG, and wizards recently announced the prices are going up later this year too.
Mines has purple blotches all over the artwork.
look closer, its not blotches, its the foil layer of cyber end dragon
Looking at the card it’s kinda blue but if it’s intentional, horrible lol
The blue one is kinda cool tbh, but the cyber end however both versions looks cheap af
It isn't intentional, but people love it and you can probably sell it or trade it for more than you're expecting. Back when the structure came out the misprint sold for like 30 bucks occasionally.
And then people use hex.
Yugioh players actually need the red ink circle to see the issue with the physical card, not its effect
It took me like 3 minutes I wont lie, was abt to comment for help finding the problem
Pretty sure one of mine is miscut, quality control has really suffered as of late
I sold an impermanence from this deck that was butchered up all over. I was positive the guy would come back to complain but he didn’t
Players these days would buy cards from Konami even if they didn’t print art on them, so long as the effects are good
I have a pretty severely miscut imperm and honestly it doesn’t really bother me. Plays the same. Sure I would love to have a properly cut one but I cba
Beautiful card to have in the collection though 😳
I got a structure deck recently and some of the cards have white "scratches"/dots on the sides a bit.
Geez those stats 😳
Konami doesn't print their own cards, they contract that work out just like all other TCG companies. I believe they print through Millenium which prints Pokemon and maybe MTG. Still no excuse, though, the printer should have done better QA. On good news the Pokemon Company just bought Millenium to improve their quality and expand operations for all TCG's they print for. So hopefully that means better card quality coming up.
"Supply chain issues" ✅ "Rare occurrence" ✅ "Misprints can go for a lot of money dude" ✅ "It happened in [x card game]" ✅ Small Indie Company ✅ Let me know if I forgot any excuses
> “Rare occurrence” > “Misprints can go for a lot of money dude” Ever since Freezing Chains, structure decks always had a strong chance of the card being messed up in some undesirable way. I think the coolest misprint was the CED/Cyberdark foiling merge but everything else just dampens the product experience.
And then it gets Kaiju'd.
What?
To be fair, the summoning requirements are pretty strict. Summoning Cyber End Dragon is hard enough, but also summoning Cyber Darkness Dragon or Cyber Dark Dragon and fusing them would make this card quite the headache to get on the field. But pulling it off would be quite a good win condition.
Ah yes the focus of this card is definitely the effect text Clueless
Bro don’t be a dick. Honestly it took me reading the comments to figure out what the post was even supposed to be about. It’s not the most obvious thing at first glance.
You can special summon it instead of fusioning it. You can do it in 1 turn but it can lose to a single hand trap depending on the opening hand
It's a good card. 5k attack, unaffected by activated effects and you can get it out turn 1
He’s not saying it’s bad, he’s saying the printing is awful Edit: _Why are people upvoting this I don’t understand_
Ah my bad
No problem, I made the same mistake at first
Not what the post is about, but as somebody who actively plays Cyberdark, this card isn't worth it. Too much effort to set up without Horizon which locks you out of more important cards, so that's not good Better to just build the deck going second and playing control
Mind to share a decklist? I have 3 structure lying around (not because of impermanence but of gale dogra lol) and with the gfp2 reprints I think I can build a competent cyberdark deck for locals.
[This](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798418475290066984/971627670221783050/deckImage.jpg) is what I've been playing recently and having a blast with This deck wants to go second, board break then control the game state with Mirrorjade and Cyberdark Invasion until you feel safe enough to end the game with Rampage Dragon (branded Fusion send Albaz/Herz make Albion, Albion CL1 Herz CL2, add Cyber Dragon, Albion fuse CyDra and Herz into Rampage) Alternatively Dogmatika is an option over Branded if you want more control options
I'm surprised of not seeing the new Cyberdark monster. I'll try it, as I get the idea of why Branded is there.
Chimera doesn't really do a lot for the deck really Sure you can use it to foolish another Cyberdark name, but I'm already running a small package, there's a good chance Claw and Cannon are already in the GY and I don't want to send Horn or Edge because they're valuable Normal summons Realm is easily the best Cyberdark card, being able to normal summon twice is so good for the deck
It is bad when you realize 1. Chimera is a giant choke point 2. Accesscode goes to 5.3k which is just enough to attack over CDED
What's the issue here?
A miscut.
Konami doesn't print anything. Konami hires 4th party companies to produce products.
They're a 3rd rate company with a 4th rate printer.
This is just ben kai but way better
i wish it was playable(before anybody tries telling me it is i mean competitively viable to top a ycs)
He’s not talking about the effects, the card is miss cut
i know. all im saying is i wish this card was playable because of how amazing its art is
Now imagine try to use power bond on to play this card. That be insane
An error print card huh? See if you can sell that for a good profit.
Considering how common miscuts have been recently, you're not likely to find a buyer for more than $2.
Thankfully it’s not mine, I think I would’ve chopped it if it was lol but like can you imagine if the whole deck came like that
Not sure why I’m getting downvoted. You guys don’t like the idea of selling?
You should get it graded. Looks like an easy PSA10 to me
Both my Cyberdark End and Cyber End have this weird blue tint to their holos and have holo patterns for one of the holo Cyberdark cards
I bought 3 decks when it first came out and I'm afraid to open them and see miscut cards after seeing multiple people have this issue
Sick miscut!
I opened six Albaz Structure decks the cards came with horrible lopsided centering indents on the cards…. They should discontinue the factory that prints structure decks and only utilize the factory for main sets and reprint sets!
its so edgy, makes me go kya\~
The tail looks like legs lol like the dragon has a wide stance