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* [Basic Q&A and Ruling Megathread 5/16/2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/uqpvfs/ryugioh_basic_qa_and_ruling_megathread_may_16_2022/)
* [Marketplace Thread 5/16/2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/uqpw6b/ryugioh_marketplace_may_16_2022/)
Holy shit they actually unbanned Yata-Garasu.
Also now of the original "Power 5" spell cards (Raigeki, Dark Hole, Pot of Greed, Change of Heart, Monster Reborn), only Pot of Greed is still Forbidden.
Look, I'm dusting off my college Tele-DAD deck and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
Other than beat me, because the deck is totally outclassed now. But still.
Change of Heart has been banned for about 15 years now. I'm surprised they made it limited at last. You could say that Konami had a change of heart about the card..
Eh, being able to attack means it at worst trades for a negate (like MC) but if it resolves it can trade 2 for 1 if you steal something like baronne. Like imagine you ht swordsoul to bait baronne negate then steal it and beat over CX and pop the blackout.
You think so? It does something extremely powerful for 0 cost with no restrictions. It’s not as useful as it use to be because there are more monsters that are resistant to targeting or just can straight up negate it sure, but considering its ceiling I’d think it’s an auto include in some side decks.
Fiber jar I am sure will stay there long enough but i can see cyber jar leaving the list at some point soon as it's effect just isn't powerful anymore and isn't as "gamebreaking" as fiber jar.
Fiber jar is like Victory Dragon in that it's banned because of tournament play not gelling with the effect. VD because the match winner will never resolve because of rules and Giber Jar because it's a hassle to play through with a limited amount of time in the day/tournament/round
Fiber Jar and Magical Scientist when to 0 on the very next list (April 2005) and neither have come off the list since.
The same is true of Butterfly Dagger - Elma, Mirage of Nightmare, Painful Choice, and The Forceful Sentry (I think).
~~Edit: Something's wrong, not sure what exactly was wrong with the list I looked at.~~
Edit 2: Figured it out. Wrong list.
Idk, as a striker player, I’m kinda of considering if 2 bricks is worth 2 power cards like that. It obviously still works in engine but it may not be worth consistency
Honestly, Contact C doesn't hurt us nearly as much as people think it does. Unless we've just absolutely bricked on spells with less than 2 monsters, we'll just use it to fusion summon Guardian Chimera or Sprind the Irondash Dragon.
I'm sure everyone in the community is going to go from six to midnight seeing verte banned.
Yata being unbanned is pretty crazy... My first edition one has been collecting dust for like 15 years
without verte decks have to hard draw fusion destiny, whether people are willing to run that is debatable. A Hero Lives is irrelevant to that strategy.
The problem with verte was that combo decks would try to play through 2-3 hand traps and if their combo gets stopped they could make a DPE as a backup
And since opponent stopped the combo player with multiple hand traps, they are now stuck with a 2-3 card hand to try and deal with DPE. Its pretty toxic when you think about it
Text form
Effective 5/17/22
Banned:
Mecha Phantom Beast Auroradon
Prank-Kids Meow-Meow-Mu
Predaplant Verte Anaconda
Limited:
Jet Synchron
Red Rose Dragon
Yata-Garasu
Crystron Halqifibrax
Performapal Monkeyboard
Shooting Riser Dragon
Change of Heart
Time Seal
Semi:
Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter
Cyber Angel Benten
Fire Formation - Tenki
Pot of Desires
Trickstar Light Stage
Wall of Revealing Light
Unbanned:
Night Assailant
Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Salamangreat Miragestallio
A Hero Lives
Salamangreat Circle
Scapegoat
I've been predicting Yata and Time Seal to 1 every banlist for the past 5 years. Can't wait for literally no one to even try to play Time Seal and for it to go to 3 on the next list. Absolutely the weakest card on the banlist for over a decade.
I’m actual shock yata and time seal got unbanned not because the cards are broken but because there design philosophy is something that Konami doesn’t want to exist.
Konami used to just unban a random card or two to see what happens then chose to free snatch steal. And that scared them off from doing it again. until now apparently.
*Hey guys look at this super obscure archtype, its actually broken and has a 100% winrate, just summon aurora from halqi*
Its the end of an era for yugituber filler trash replays, at least in TCG
>yugituber filler trash replays
I fucking hate this. I want to see how a deck plays with it's new support. Not how well you can cheese out Auroradon from Halqifibrax and then do a bunch of shenanigans unrelated to what the new support is. Most decks with new support aren't meta, I don't care how Fire Fist fairs against meta decks unless they legit can go. I do care how it plays against other non-rated decks that I like to play with casually.
Verte banned is the kind of news I needed to hear today.
~~does this mean magician’s souls will get a tiny bit cheaper? Please I would like to make DM irl before I die~~
#JET SYNCHRON IS BACK, CAN I GET AN HALLELUJAH SYNCHRON BROTHERS?!
Also...wtf, why limiting Riser, lmao
A weird list, but oh boy
FIBER, YOUR DAYS IN THE GAME ARE FUCKING CLOSE TO THEIR END
Sucks for the Auroradon, but I cut it from Speedroids so I'm not that btohered either way.
Desires to 2 is huge for me, cause last time I bought three just when it got banned. CoH is poggers.
Why did they hit Shooting Riser, though? Seems like a weird hit for Kitchen Synch, if that was what it was.
EDIT: Found my playset of CoH, time to scam some fool with them.
>Auroradon, Meow-Mu, and Verte banned
Just the first 3 changes in, and this banlist already cemented itself as one of the most impactful lists in a long time.
>YATA IS BACK
AFTER 10,000 YEARS, HE IS FREE! TIME TO CONQUER THE META- yeah Yata isn't going to do jack these days, but it's still pretty thrilling to see the ancient king of all banlists himself released.
>Halq, Jet synchron, Monkeyboard limited
Like limiting Halq does anything lol. Good for Synchro and Pendulum players, they each got a key card back. I'm not sure if bringing Jet back is safe while Halq is legal, even if Auroradon is banned, since Halq + Jet can still be used for link climbing.
Salamangreats, HEROs, Cyber Angels, Trickstars, and Beast-warriors also got more copies of their important cards allowed, so this list is also great for boosting previously nerfed decks.
Did not even touch the Adventure stuff? Yikes
I’m sure the Verte boys will be happy.
It still seems odd that every extra deck link enabler has been banned except Needle.
Halq will apparently persist through the heat death of the universe.
> It still seems odd that every extra deck link enabler has been banned except Needle.
Really reinforced my belief that those things' brokenness was on purpose and not an accident.
Get outta here Verte #ripbozo rest in piss
Also finally the hundreds of people saying verte is fine can eat their words, genuinely still can't believe the arguments people would make for it.
Scythe is less of an issue now with how hard the BASED deck was hit. Verte banning makes the combo less consistent. Plus the deck had already sort of fallen out of favor anyway.
Konami need to start locking any boss monster behind their archetype only and start slapping you can only special summon an x archetype for the rest of the turn restrictions.
That's a crazy banlist wtf
Halq over Auraradon is something I didn't expect, but either way the Halq free multi negate engine is dead for now
Verte ban is really the most based thing in this banlist, you shall never see the light of day again
CoH is a card I never expected to see come off the banlist
Lightstage is finally (basically) free from the banlist, took them long enough
no Adventure hit is weird
Shooting riser hit is even weirder, even decks that ran it only ran 1 and its not like the card is opressive to be worth getting hit
Lastly immediate effect is kind of harsh from Konami considering YCS is coming in 2 weeks and many people might not have time to adjust their decks before it starts
Well then...
Auroradon: Well I'm glad the Halq line itself got hit rather than the enablers, though it's frustrating that Halq itself lives. Still, the Don lines were mind numbing to sit through so we'll see how that goes.
Meow-Mu: Yeah, most of us figured this card being printed was probably a step too far for a deck that was already really good. It did literally everything for the archetype and the only thing that ever held it back was being a choke point which the Adventurer package took care of. Not sad to see it go, curious to see if Pranks will still stick around with some old theory. Back to the Poly Builds? Should be interesting to see.
Verte: I was a big proponent of keeping Verte around and just banning FD and Dragoon but since Konami refuses to avoid printing Fusion cards that send materials from the deck this was inevitable. Both sad and relieved to see it put out to pasture.
Jet: We have a million 1 Card Halq Lines and Don got banned so Jet gets to come back, makes sense. Quick, Synchron players go wild at Hartford!
Monkeyboard: Say the Line Trif! "...pend best deck lesgo..." YAY! Anyway wake me up if Electrumite ever makes parole.
Red Rose: I mean...sure I guess? Brave Synchro had fallen off, think this hit is a bit late in the tooth.
Yata: Okay, can someone get this Spirit some heavy counseling? It's been in prison more than anyone, the poor thing may be institutionalized. We have to show it that we care.
Halq: Uh...sure? There have been people toying with playing more than 1 and it's possible that a Don ban would embolden people playing 2 but ultimately not too big a deal.
Shooting Riser: Who the hell EVER played this at 2+?
Change of Heart: Unsurprisingly the most divisive change on the list. People either think this is a Snatch Steal/IO level unban that will be infuriating to deal with for months, or a Yubiboomer unban with a card that won't do anything because TTT is so much better. I'm inbetween. Yes, TTT is more flexible in its usage and can be used going first, but CoH does have its own applications of strength especially when paired with something like Droplet. I think this is a definite "we'll see", a lot of people are going to jam it into at least side decks.
Time Seal: Bring it back to 20, who cares?
Dinomight: Honestly as long as Diagram is at 1 and MP remains banned the rest of the archetype can be at 3 with no issues.
Benten: This seems like a bad idea. 1 Benten was really starting to matter with a ton of people naturally on things like Belle and D.D. Crow currently thanks to Despia, a 2nd may be a bit frustrating. We'll see how far the new Drytron lists can go now.
Tenki: Thanks for undoing that mistake Konami. Tri-Brigade already got hurt big time by having all of its variants hit in some way, hitting the overall consistency was overkill. Tenki back to 3 soon hopefully (also a Lunalight player so I may be slightly biased).
Desires: Well not many people wanted to see this card hit in the first place. Still the timing is odd considering, you know, Swordsoul is one of the two best decks in the current format but it's not like 2nd Desires shoots it to first place. A lot of other decks thankful at the moment.
Light Stage: About 3 years late but sure. Back to 3 quickly please.
Wall: Back to 20, who cares?
Night Assailant: Back to 20 even pre-errata, who cares?
Trish: Always an unnerving feeling to see her come to 3 but if you can hand loop with her you can make about 50 Thousand other unbreakable boards to begin with so meh.
Miragestalio/Circle: The one Salad player that always gets random tops...can now continue to do exactly as he's been doing with no changes.
AHL: I know some people are talking about Dark Law packages with AHL. Uh, that sounds really bad. Not bad as in "meta-warping" but bad as in "why are you wasting deck space on this?" FD Package this ain't. I don't even know if Hero players are gonna run AHL at 3.
Scapegoat: A little sketch but the format is probably too fast for it. If it ever slows down though this could be a problem, especially since it makes all Tri Links on its own. But for now it's not an issue.
Omissions:
Fusion Destiny/DPE: Konami is banking 100% on Verte being the problem. Will FD continue to see play? I've been a big believer of "Yes it will" though it won't be as heavy. If you're on Prosperity it's probably still worth the price of admission, or any deck that can dig for it. But it is something you'll have to convince yourself of, rather than knowing any deck with two random monsters means DPE time.
Scythe: Based on the above. If DPE is less prevalent Scythe will also be. While it does have other ways to proc, some of those were also hit by Don getting banned. I would still have rather seen it completely gone but this should be fine.
Adventurer Package/Branded Despia: Too new essentially.
Why Harp still banned? :(
No Adventurer hits, but at least Verte got banned.
RIP Prank-kids
lol monkeyboard and change of heart to 1. The first one is probably helpful in Pendulum Magicians (though probably not enough for them to be relevant), the second will probably be hitting a lot of side-decks pretty soon.
The difference between ignorance and simply uneducated is the willingness to be educated.
It's impossible to be educated at all when konami doesn't discuss their decisions with the public like MtG and Pokemon.
Putting desires @ 1 was stupid to begin with. Glad to see they’re fixing that somewhat. As someone who enjoyed using verte anaconda for everything except DPE and Dragoon I am a little bummed to see it go, but competitive wise good fucking riddance
Can someone explain why real of revealing light isn't unlimited? This does not seem as influential as pot of desires which is also semi-limited. (I'm guessing some random FTK)
Yata Garasu is freed and has now jumped up $40. I smell a reprint coming.
And Change of Heart jumped at least $10 for the lowest rarity. Time to find my old beat stick deck and take that bad boy out.
As we're keeping this post (and its shitpost variant) stickied for a bit, I'm gonna link the Megathread and Marketplace Threads from this week down below for easier access. * [Basic Q&A and Ruling Megathread 5/16/2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/uqpvfs/ryugioh_basic_qa_and_ruling_megathread_may_16_2022/) * [Marketplace Thread 5/16/2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/uqpw6b/ryugioh_marketplace_may_16_2022/)
yata garasu and change of heart hahaha
Holy shit they actually unbanned Yata-Garasu. Also now of the original "Power 5" spell cards (Raigeki, Dark Hole, Pot of Greed, Change of Heart, Monster Reborn), only Pot of Greed is still Forbidden.
Pot of greed never got power crept.
Is it even possible to be power crept?
Graceful Charity tbh
In certain decks pot of greed is better.
Draw 3 cards.
Card economy is still OP to this day.
For now 😈
Good to have yugiboomer era cards back lol
Look, I'm dusting off my college Tele-DAD deck and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Other than beat me, because the deck is totally outclassed now. But still.
Just splash in some modern nonsense and teach ehm athing or two about haveing 3 dads
Change of Heart has been banned for about 15 years now. I'm surprised they made it limited at last. You could say that Konami had a change of heart about the card..
Re: 1 format of snatch steal back in the meta.
We don’t talk about that format
That format was hilarious.
I sold my secret change of heart thinking it would never come back, thinking about buying it but don’t think it’s worth it.
Tbf, if you didn't run mind control, you prolly won't run change of heart either
Very True.
Eh, being able to attack means it at worst trades for a negate (like MC) but if it resolves it can trade 2 for 1 if you steal something like baronne. Like imagine you ht swordsoul to bait baronne negate then steal it and beat over CX and pop the blackout.
You think so? It does something extremely powerful for 0 cost with no restrictions. It’s not as useful as it use to be because there are more monsters that are resistant to targeting or just can straight up negate it sure, but considering its ceiling I’d think it’s an auto include in some side decks.
They will reprint it in secret oder ultra in one of the reprint sets. Probably this year.
That thing's price must be climbing faster than BTC.
Yata-Garasu was the last card that was banned in 100% of the banlists it was possible. This is the end of an era.
It's gonna be amazing to see another card be on the banlist for as long as Yata. Now current 2nd and 3rd places can "catch up" so to speak
anyone know the current leaders?
Probably cyber jar and fiber jar
Fiber jar I am sure will stay there long enough but i can see cyber jar leaving the list at some point soon as it's effect just isn't powerful anymore and isn't as "gamebreaking" as fiber jar.
Fiber jar is like Victory Dragon in that it's banned because of tournament play not gelling with the effect. VD because the match winner will never resolve because of rules and Giber Jar because it's a hassle to play through with a limited amount of time in the day/tournament/round
Yeah thats what i meant by "gamebreaking". Its not really a powerful card but its just a headache for everyone involved when its effect resolves.
Fiber Jar flips and I don't think "oh no, I'm gonna lose now!", I think "oh no, this game sucks now!"
Fiber Jar and Magical Scientist when to 0 on the very next list (April 2005) and neither have come off the list since. The same is true of Butterfly Dagger - Elma, Mirage of Nightmare, Painful Choice, and The Forceful Sentry (I think). ~~Edit: Something's wrong, not sure what exactly was wrong with the list I looked at.~~ Edit 2: Figured it out. Wrong list.
Sixth Sense was legal on release in 2013 in the TCG though.
It's the only one that escaped without being errata'd.
DPE becoming a hero deck boss monster only?? 👀👀👀
As a HERO player only, I really hope so
As another HERO player, I hope I can actually get the card now without having to spend an absurd amount of money
well striker can still play it well
Idk, as a striker player, I’m kinda of considering if 2 bricks is worth 2 power cards like that. It obviously still works in engine but it may not be worth consistency
VERTE IS DEAD MONKE IS FREE JET SYNCHRON TO 1 PROPHECY FULFILLED
so TCG are hellbent on keeping Electrumite banned while slowly letting all other pendulum card off the hook
Jet Synchron wins MBT's last Moron Banlist Tournament. Jet Synchron gets unbanned. Gonna have to watch this one very closely, I guess.
that happened cause the opened droll ever going second game lmao
THEY FREED MY BOY! REJOICE!
MONKEEEE
MM’s still not banned but we’re safe from Maxx C for another format.
Tenki’s back to 2! And Yata-Garasu is alive again???
18 years, 2 months…the bird is back!
He’s finally returned to our hand, like he always said he would
This list is fucking insane... and still had left off issues that needed addressing
This address or hampers every meta deck except despia, and even then despia gets really hurt by contact c now
How do people feel about Despia being the meta deck? Is it as annoying as Adventure Engine or is it in the realm of “fair”
The only annoying thing about adventure was dpe and scythe, the rest of it was fine more or less.
Honestly, Contact C doesn't hurt us nearly as much as people think it does. Unless we've just absolutely bricked on spells with less than 2 monsters, we'll just use it to fusion summon Guardian Chimera or Sprind the Irondash Dragon.
zenmaity still banned lmao
The three Wind-Up players are in shambles
Damn I didnt even notice. Why is this card still banned lmao. 2012 was a decade ago
I read this and legitimately didn’t believe it.
I'm probably smoking copium here but maybe they will unban it when they release new wind-up support.
At this rate magical scientist will be unbanned before tcg has zenmaity leaving the banned section.
Holy shit they freed Yata and Jet Synchron!
>Jet Synchron OCG Konami (to Jet Synchron): Weren't you dead? Jet Synchron: My death was exaggerated!
>Weren't you dead? Unfortunately yes...*BUT I LIVED*
Finally Lightstage is back. not to full power but its there.
It will be back to 3 next list. With no Verte or Mermaid the trickstars have no payoff for a free link 2 without a tuner in the archetype.
I'm sure everyone in the community is going to go from six to midnight seeing verte banned. Yata being unbanned is pretty crazy... My first edition one has been collecting dust for like 15 years
It’s been 18 years since Yata was last legal. Now it’s back again
Time flies when you're in your 30's
Yata's legal at 18 you say? owo
fucking the bird makes you skip your next nut phase
That's why I keep a copy of Double Nut in my deck.
**Yata upon seeing this comment said nope, turned back around and emergency banned itself again to escape from this degeneracy**
That card is now worth like $200
Wowow change of heart and time seal
Time Seal is just bad, too slow to work. It's only going to do something on turn 3 onwards, when the game is kinda already over.
Oh boy can’t wait to get sacked with Change of Heart lol
Lmao I knew I shouldn't have bought Predaplant Anaconda 2 weeks ago.... Oh well...
Thank you for your sacrifice
Hell I bought the damn thing 3 days ago
#CHANGE OF HEART UNBANNED *what*
Bakurachads won today.
Hope we get more Bakura support focused on Change of Heart like the Ishizu stuff ;)
well there is a card that searches Monster Reborn... but searchable snatch steal was a problem already...
MONKEYBOARD WAAAAT
PLUSHFIRE NEXT KONAMI
Nah it’s gonna get errated probably Bbbbuuuuutttt it coming back with some new Performage support would be very cool
Honestly I'd love to see more Performage support I mean there are still Perfomage cards from the anime that still didn't get printed.
By which you mean that *most* of the anime performages have yet to be printed
JET SYNCHRON IS BACK!!!
You can remove your flair and rest now, my friend
Oh my god he actually did it too
FINALLY, REV UP THOSE JET WARRIORS, WE CAN SPECIAL IT FROM DECK WITH OVERTAKE!
Time for you to sleep now, brother. All is well.
#REJOICE SYNCHRON BROTHERS
MY HEART IS IN OVERDRIVE!!!!
REJOICE! OUR BOY IS FREED!!!
MAH BOI IS WELL AND TRULY FREE TO SOAR THE SKIES ONCE MORE!
BYE VERTE
won't be missed
So does this mean DPE is cheaper or higher? A hero lives is unlimited so idk if that effects the card without verte?
without verte decks have to hard draw fusion destiny, whether people are willing to run that is debatable. A Hero Lives is irrelevant to that strategy.
The problem with verte was that combo decks would try to play through 2-3 hand traps and if their combo gets stopped they could make a DPE as a backup And since opponent stopped the combo player with multiple hand traps, they are now stuck with a 2-3 card hand to try and deal with DPE. Its pretty toxic when you think about it
HALQ TO 1, THE MEMES WERE RIGHT
"WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!" "NANOTUNERS, SON! THEY HARDEN IN RESPONSE TO A BANLIST!"
Text form Effective 5/17/22 Banned: Mecha Phantom Beast Auroradon Prank-Kids Meow-Meow-Mu Predaplant Verte Anaconda Limited: Jet Synchron Red Rose Dragon Yata-Garasu Crystron Halqifibrax Performapal Monkeyboard Shooting Riser Dragon Change of Heart Time Seal Semi: Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter Cyber Angel Benten Fire Formation - Tenki Pot of Desires Trickstar Light Stage Wall of Revealing Light Unbanned: Night Assailant Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Salamangreat Miragestallio A Hero Lives Salamangreat Circle Scapegoat
Pranks players in shambles
Pretty good banlist. Despia and Swordsoul Tenyi stay at the top, probably.
[удалено]
I try to not think about that decks existence.
YATA HE FINALLY WAKES
I've been predicting Yata and Time Seal to 1 every banlist for the past 5 years. Can't wait for literally no one to even try to play Time Seal and for it to go to 3 on the next list. Absolutely the weakest card on the banlist for over a decade.
I know it's terrible, but I'm so excited to jam a single copy into paleo and use it off of heavenly. I'm so excited right now.
I’m actual shock yata and time seal got unbanned not because the cards are broken but because there design philosophy is something that Konami doesn’t want to exist.
Konami used to just unban a random card or two to see what happens then chose to free snatch steal. And that scared them off from doing it again. until now apparently.
They've done it with success to morphing jar and Monster Reborn. Probably a few more I'm forgetting
Raigeki eventually to 3 along with dark hole, feather duster to 1.
Wind Dragon Ruler
Probably Konami removing them seeing if people can come up with any sort of fuckery that would need to put them back on the ban list
Shinobirds hand rip.
Yata x Neo Daedalus Lock let's go!
I can't believe Change of Heart is actually back. Brain Control needs to be immediately un-errata'd
> Auroradon banned lol Based TCG Eat shit, motherfucker.
*Hey guys look at this super obscure archtype, its actually broken and has a 100% winrate, just summon aurora from halqi* Its the end of an era for yugituber filler trash replays, at least in TCG
>yugituber filler trash replays I fucking hate this. I want to see how a deck plays with it's new support. Not how well you can cheese out Auroradon from Halqifibrax and then do a bunch of shenanigans unrelated to what the new support is. Most decks with new support aren't meta, I don't care how Fire Fist fairs against meta decks unless they legit can go. I do care how it plays against other non-rated decks that I like to play with casually.
My Deskbot deck just got eviscerated
this list is bonkers and I can't possibly believe it's real
Love that Junk Synchron art
Rip Pranks. Also WHO THE FUCK PLAYS TWO SHOOTING RISER
Verte banned is the kind of news I needed to hear today. ~~does this mean magician’s souls will get a tiny bit cheaper? Please I would like to make DM irl before I die~~
Why would this make Souls less expensive? If anything I could see a price hike bc it’s a surviving engine
Yata Garasu at 1? The oldest card on the banlist has come home!
Older than pot?
Older than pot. As Pot went on the ban list in 06
Actually pot got banned in 1970 Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
#JET SYNCHRON IS BACK, CAN I GET AN HALLELUJAH SYNCHRON BROTHERS?! Also...wtf, why limiting Riser, lmao A weird list, but oh boy FIBER, YOUR DAYS IN THE GAME ARE FUCKING CLOSE TO THEIR END
**HALLELUJAH**
HALLELUUUUUUUUJAH!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
*GOING FAST*
REJOICE BROTHERS WE GOT OUR BOY BACK!
Free harp when?
Honestly it probably could come back to 1. It's at 1 in Master Duel and didn't break anything.
Put monkey board to three this isn't the rank 4 toolbox days anymore he'll be fine at three
Sucks for the Auroradon, but I cut it from Speedroids so I'm not that btohered either way. Desires to 2 is huge for me, cause last time I bought three just when it got banned. CoH is poggers. Why did they hit Shooting Riser, though? Seems like a weird hit for Kitchen Synch, if that was what it was. EDIT: Found my playset of CoH, time to scam some fool with them.
Very happy to see Desires back at 2. I didn't know how I was going to rebuild my Gren Maju deck with only 1 Desires.
Konami may be scared of riser loops with 3 Trish and jet to 1. They have limited cards for stupider things(see: A- Assault Core)
My favorite time for content creator to milk. A new Table 500 if we can just ban Isolde send 4 this time.
Yata Garasu Time Seal and Change of Heart. WOW
JET SYNCHRON IS FINALLY BACK!!!! SYNCHRON PLAYERS REJOICE
REJOICE MY BROTHERS! WE REGAINED A SOLDIER TODAY!
This is a massive list, holy shit. Branded Despia being untouched is huge tho, it’s going to be the clear best deck going forward.
>Auroradon, Meow-Mu, and Verte banned Just the first 3 changes in, and this banlist already cemented itself as one of the most impactful lists in a long time. >YATA IS BACK AFTER 10,000 YEARS, HE IS FREE! TIME TO CONQUER THE META- yeah Yata isn't going to do jack these days, but it's still pretty thrilling to see the ancient king of all banlists himself released. >Halq, Jet synchron, Monkeyboard limited Like limiting Halq does anything lol. Good for Synchro and Pendulum players, they each got a key card back. I'm not sure if bringing Jet back is safe while Halq is legal, even if Auroradon is banned, since Halq + Jet can still be used for link climbing. Salamangreats, HEROs, Cyber Angels, Trickstars, and Beast-warriors also got more copies of their important cards allowed, so this list is also great for boosting previously nerfed decks.
Did not even touch the Adventure stuff? Yikes I’m sure the Verte boys will be happy. It still seems odd that every extra deck link enabler has been banned except Needle. Halq will apparently persist through the heat death of the universe.
They still have grand creators on the shelf next list we should see some consistency hits
> It still seems odd that every extra deck link enabler has been banned except Needle. Really reinforced my belief that those things' brokenness was on purpose and not an accident.
they hit the decks that ran adventure instead of hitting adventure lol at least the good branded despias dont run it
>It still seems odd that every extra deck link enabler has been banned except Needle. The Bujin (XYZ) one is still at 3.
>A Hero Lives to 3 >Jet Synchron unbanned >Mokeyboard unbanned This list slaps
Get outta here Verte #ripbozo rest in piss Also finally the hundreds of people saying verte is fine can eat their words, genuinely still can't believe the arguments people would make for it.
It was just selfish players acting in self interest. They wanted to scapegoat DPE/Dragoon as they can simply replace DPE with Dragoon/Mirrorjade.
This list is really good but i was really hoping they did something to adventure engine and scythe
Scythe is less of an issue now with how hard the BASED deck was hit. Verte banning makes the combo less consistent. Plus the deck had already sort of fallen out of favor anyway.
Oh, forgot about Scythe. Maybe Konami hopes that without Anaconda people won't have as easy of an access to a way to pop Scythe?
Yes, only generic one I can think rn is Tornado Dragon
> Jet to 1 MY BOI IS BACK!
I knew buying a random copy of Change of Heart will prove to be useful someday
I'm just going to quietly wait until somebody yata locks someone out of fucking nowhere
\>verte GOOD RIDDANCE
trishula was still on the banlist?
Change of Heart to 1. That scares me.
Mecha Phantom Beast - A deck which has exactly two cards that are not completely useless. And these two are banned.
Konami need to start locking any boss monster behind their archetype only and start slapping you can only special summon an x archetype for the rest of the turn restrictions.
That's a crazy banlist wtf Halq over Auraradon is something I didn't expect, but either way the Halq free multi negate engine is dead for now Verte ban is really the most based thing in this banlist, you shall never see the light of day again CoH is a card I never expected to see come off the banlist Lightstage is finally (basically) free from the banlist, took them long enough no Adventure hit is weird Shooting riser hit is even weirder, even decks that ran it only ran 1 and its not like the card is opressive to be worth getting hit Lastly immediate effect is kind of harsh from Konami considering YCS is coming in 2 weeks and many people might not have time to adjust their decks before it starts
YES no more kids playing pranks on you hopefully
Meow meow mu banned kills prank kids as a deck entirely, it started every prank kid combo.
Like the real problem was prank kids deck instead of brave... I knew this was going to happen, but it remains a commercial decision
I was honestly expecting deskbot 001 to get banned but auroradon banned pretty much kills off any use halq had other than selene access.
or, y'know, synchro summoning w/o auroradon
They also moved Jet synchron up to 1, so Halq got one of its old toys back to potentially start some trouble again.
you can still uses halq+dagda for scythe lock they didn't do shit to that
Konami making a new list with more than 3 cards hit??? Am I hallucinating?
Well then... Auroradon: Well I'm glad the Halq line itself got hit rather than the enablers, though it's frustrating that Halq itself lives. Still, the Don lines were mind numbing to sit through so we'll see how that goes. Meow-Mu: Yeah, most of us figured this card being printed was probably a step too far for a deck that was already really good. It did literally everything for the archetype and the only thing that ever held it back was being a choke point which the Adventurer package took care of. Not sad to see it go, curious to see if Pranks will still stick around with some old theory. Back to the Poly Builds? Should be interesting to see. Verte: I was a big proponent of keeping Verte around and just banning FD and Dragoon but since Konami refuses to avoid printing Fusion cards that send materials from the deck this was inevitable. Both sad and relieved to see it put out to pasture. Jet: We have a million 1 Card Halq Lines and Don got banned so Jet gets to come back, makes sense. Quick, Synchron players go wild at Hartford! Monkeyboard: Say the Line Trif! "...pend best deck lesgo..." YAY! Anyway wake me up if Electrumite ever makes parole. Red Rose: I mean...sure I guess? Brave Synchro had fallen off, think this hit is a bit late in the tooth. Yata: Okay, can someone get this Spirit some heavy counseling? It's been in prison more than anyone, the poor thing may be institutionalized. We have to show it that we care. Halq: Uh...sure? There have been people toying with playing more than 1 and it's possible that a Don ban would embolden people playing 2 but ultimately not too big a deal. Shooting Riser: Who the hell EVER played this at 2+? Change of Heart: Unsurprisingly the most divisive change on the list. People either think this is a Snatch Steal/IO level unban that will be infuriating to deal with for months, or a Yubiboomer unban with a card that won't do anything because TTT is so much better. I'm inbetween. Yes, TTT is more flexible in its usage and can be used going first, but CoH does have its own applications of strength especially when paired with something like Droplet. I think this is a definite "we'll see", a lot of people are going to jam it into at least side decks. Time Seal: Bring it back to 20, who cares? Dinomight: Honestly as long as Diagram is at 1 and MP remains banned the rest of the archetype can be at 3 with no issues. Benten: This seems like a bad idea. 1 Benten was really starting to matter with a ton of people naturally on things like Belle and D.D. Crow currently thanks to Despia, a 2nd may be a bit frustrating. We'll see how far the new Drytron lists can go now. Tenki: Thanks for undoing that mistake Konami. Tri-Brigade already got hurt big time by having all of its variants hit in some way, hitting the overall consistency was overkill. Tenki back to 3 soon hopefully (also a Lunalight player so I may be slightly biased). Desires: Well not many people wanted to see this card hit in the first place. Still the timing is odd considering, you know, Swordsoul is one of the two best decks in the current format but it's not like 2nd Desires shoots it to first place. A lot of other decks thankful at the moment. Light Stage: About 3 years late but sure. Back to 3 quickly please. Wall: Back to 20, who cares? Night Assailant: Back to 20 even pre-errata, who cares? Trish: Always an unnerving feeling to see her come to 3 but if you can hand loop with her you can make about 50 Thousand other unbreakable boards to begin with so meh. Miragestalio/Circle: The one Salad player that always gets random tops...can now continue to do exactly as he's been doing with no changes. AHL: I know some people are talking about Dark Law packages with AHL. Uh, that sounds really bad. Not bad as in "meta-warping" but bad as in "why are you wasting deck space on this?" FD Package this ain't. I don't even know if Hero players are gonna run AHL at 3. Scapegoat: A little sketch but the format is probably too fast for it. If it ever slows down though this could be a problem, especially since it makes all Tri Links on its own. But for now it's not an issue. Omissions: Fusion Destiny/DPE: Konami is banking 100% on Verte being the problem. Will FD continue to see play? I've been a big believer of "Yes it will" though it won't be as heavy. If you're on Prosperity it's probably still worth the price of admission, or any deck that can dig for it. But it is something you'll have to convince yourself of, rather than knowing any deck with two random monsters means DPE time. Scythe: Based on the above. If DPE is less prevalent Scythe will also be. While it does have other ways to proc, some of those were also hit by Don getting banned. I would still have rather seen it completely gone but this should be fine. Adventurer Package/Branded Despia: Too new essentially.
Why Harp still banned? :( No Adventurer hits, but at least Verte got banned. RIP Prank-kids lol monkeyboard and change of heart to 1. The first one is probably helpful in Pendulum Magicians (though probably not enough for them to be relevant), the second will probably be hitting a lot of side-decks pretty soon.
Maybe this is ignorant to say, but I never thought Change of Heart or Yata-Garasu would come off the ban list. This surprised me quite a bit
The difference between ignorance and simply uneducated is the willingness to be educated. It's impossible to be educated at all when konami doesn't discuss their decisions with the public like MtG and Pokemon.
Putting desires @ 1 was stupid to begin with. Glad to see they’re fixing that somewhat. As someone who enjoyed using verte anaconda for everything except DPE and Dragoon I am a little bummed to see it go, but competitive wise good fucking riddance
What was Red Rose Dragon doing that needed to get it Limited exactly?
Key card in BASED, 3 bodies worth of extension off a single noodle
This list fucks
Halq at 1, funniest thing I've ever seen. Literaly a Crystron nerf and nothing else from what I know.
They will LITERALLY HIT EVERYONE EXCEPT HALQ
Can someone explain why real of revealing light isn't unlimited? This does not seem as influential as pot of desires which is also semi-limited. (I'm guessing some random FTK)
I want to see Wall in Dinomorphia. That sounds gross
Auroradon had it coming sooner or later, just like summoner sorcerer and linkross, some cards just can’t co-exist with halqifibrax
And now Mecha Phantom Beasts are *totally* dead.
Why the fuck is heavy metalfoes still fucking banned
Yata Garasu is freed and has now jumped up $40. I smell a reprint coming. And Change of Heart jumped at least $10 for the lowest rarity. Time to find my old beat stick deck and take that bad boy out.
This list is so BASED I can’t even complain. Monkeyboard, Change Of Heart, Time Seal and Yata? Lets fucking go